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[Q] HTC One X Dissection - Expandable memory?

Though I was holding out for the S3, could not help pass off a $49 upgrade on the HTC One X. I have seen disassembly pics of the HTC One X and am wondeing if they use a microSD card for the internal memory (like Samsung did for Captivate? ) and if it would be possible to swap out the memory card with a cloned say 32 gb / 64 gb card?
Disassembly pics
hXXp://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-x-torn-down-take-a-peek-inside/

sanumaj said:
Though I was holding out for the S3, could not help pass off a $49 upgrade on the HTC One X. I have seen disassembly pics of the HTC One X and am wondeing if they use a microSD card for the internal memory (like Samsung did for Captivate? ) and if it would be possible to swap out the memory card with a cloned say 32 gb / 64 gb card?
Disassembly pics
hXXp://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-x-torn-down-take-a-peek-inside/
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Good question
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Oh man, I'll be so pissed if that turns out to be the case. If so, why would they give the XL only 16GB when the Tegra edition has 32?

Maybe the difference in price between the S4 and T3 is the same as a 16GB mSD card and 32GB. There's always trade-offs to be made in hardware design. HTC probably wanted to keep the phone below a certain threshold regarding component cost.

sanumaj said:
Though I was holding out for the S3, could not help pass off a $49 upgrade on the HTC One X. I have seen disassembly pics of the HTC One X and am wondeing if they use a microSD card for the internal memory (like Samsung did for Captivate? ) and if it would be possible to swap out the memory card with a cloned say 32 gb / 64 gb card?
Disassembly pics
hXXp://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-x-torn-down-take-a-peek-inside/
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I was wondering the same thing the other day. I love almost everything I'm seeing about this phone but the 16GB (actually, only about 12GB usable) thing is really making me hesitant to buy it. Too bad the captions in the pictures aren't translated!

I don't see any microsd or microsd slot in any of those pics. Internal memory is usually a soldered chip on the board. Would be pretty difficult to swap those out.

sanumaj said:
Though I was holding out for the S3, could not help pass off a $49 upgrade on the HTC One X. I have seen disassembly pics of the HTC One X and am wondeing if they use a microSD card for the internal memory (like Samsung did for Captivate? ) and if it would be possible to swap out the memory card with a cloned say 32 gb / 64 gb card?
Disassembly pics
hXXp://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-x-torn-down-take-a-peek-inside/
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Actually, none of the Samsung phones ever used internal microSD cards. Samsung phones always use NAND chips (Captivate included).
In the past, HTC always use miroSD cards for internal storage. But it may have changed recently. Who knows.

elsupermang said:
Internal memory is usually a soldered chip on the board. Would be pretty difficult to swap those out.
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Yes, and the solder joints are usually tiny on the chips. Very difficult to do by hand (if not almost impossible), with little room for error.

The words in simplified Chinese are simply describing how to take the phone apart. The original pictures are a part of a series of pictures teaching you how to take apart the phone and the text are things like "The camera is connected to the main circuit board, so be sure to be careful when disassembling." I went through all of the pictures on the original site and none of it mentions where data storage is.

lilhyper said:
The words in simplified Chinese are simply describing how to take the phone apart. The original pictures are a part of a series of pictures teaching you how to take apart the phone and the text are things like "The camera is connected to the main circuit board, so be sure to be careful when disassembling." I went through all of the pictures on the original site and none of it mentions where data storage is.
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Thanks for taking time to review the pics and the translations.. Its a shame that HTC decided to skimp on the internal memory and provide no expandable options. Suspect att strategy involves increased dependence on cloud storage that would force users to increase data consumption... Chi ching!
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Since the at&t version only has 16 gb, does anyone have the ACTUAL real storage space? Does it end up being like 14.92 gigs or something? This phone looks really sweet, but I currently have about 12-13 gigs of music on my captivate and the 16gb could pose as a real annoyance.

It is a nand chip, so no hidden microsd slot.

designgears said:
It is a nand chip, so no hidden microsd slot.
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Thanks for the confirmation DG.
On a different note, I have been following you since the captivate days. Love your work and am a big fan.
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JayFReaZy said:
Since the at&t version only has 16 gb, does anyone have the ACTUAL real storage space? Does it end up being like 14.92 gigs or something? This phone looks really sweet, but I currently have about 12-13 gigs of music on my captivate and the 16gb could pose as a real annoyance.
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9.93 usable, 2 for apps
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JayFReaZy said:
Since the at&t version only has 16 gb, does anyone have the ACTUAL real storage space? Does it end up being like 14.92 gigs or something? This phone looks really sweet, but I currently have about 12-13 gigs of music on my captivate and the 16gb could pose as a real annoyance.
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Google Music is probably the only realistic solution for you... Stream some music and pick and choose what to keep on your phone.

lilhyper said:
Google Music is probably the only realistic solution for you... Stream some music and pick and choose what to keep on your phone.
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Would use data plan if not on wifi. Still if you are 3GB or more with att should be doable with moderate use
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sanumaj said:
Thanks for taking time to review the pics and the translations.. Its a shame that HTC decided to skimp on the internal memory and provide no expandable options. Suspect att strategy involves increased dependence on cloud storage that would force users to increase data consumption... Chi ching!
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WE HAVE A WINNER!!!! I completely bet this was ATT's decision.

mrpopgun said:
9.93 usable, 2 for apps
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Thanks for the info, but WOW is that a small amount of space. I have close to 5GB on just pictures and videos alone.
I was thinking about google music, however, I mostly listen to music while in the subway; which means no reception/wifi. I had my sights on getting this phone, I guess I may need more time to think about it. If HTC was able to put a slot for a microSIM, why not a micro SD as well? . But, like someone stated in an earlier post, I'm sure it is to force people to use the cloud, which uses data, and ultimately creates overages.

I've been waiting to see a teardown to see if replacing the nand would be possible. If it was that would make a huge market for broken International One-X boards. I can't judge by the pictures if it's possible. Usually on a teardown there's at least 20 pics.
As far as AT&T's plan and why they knocked us down to essentially 10 gigs..
You had one thing right when you said cloud dependency, but I think it goes much further than that. Think of the 23GB free Dropbox space they're giving us all, the Google Music they are all undoubtedly expecting us to use. It's the precursor to their future attempt to hold your data hostage! What are you going to do if you don't pay your bill and your service goes out? You can't access your dropbox on the go, you can't stream your music through Google Play. They know that nobody wants to actually fill that measly 10 gigs with music. It's an attempt to get you more motivated to pay your monthly bill, and to extend your contract for another two years once this one is up. It's funny how they give you 23 gigs on your dropbox for 2 years, the same as your contract length. Something tells me that extending your contract will get you another 2 years once it's up. It might look like simple marketing, but honestly it's quite shady of them.

k4p741nkrunch said:
I've been waiting to see a teardown to see if replacing the nand would be possible. If it was that would make a huge market for broken International One-X boards. I can't judge by the pictures if it's possible. Usually on a teardown there's at least 20 pics.
As far as AT&T's plan and why they knocked us down to essentially 10 gigs..
You had one thing right when you said cloud dependency, but I think it goes much further than that. Think of the 23GB free Dropbox space they're giving us all, the Google Music they are all undoubtedly expecting us to use. It's the precursor to their future attempt to hold your data hostage! What are you going to do if you don't pay your bill and your service goes out? You can't access your dropbox on the go, you can't stream your music through Google Play. They know that nobody wants to actually fill that measly 10 gigs with music. It's an attempt to get you more motivated to pay your monthly bill, and to extend your contract for another two years once this one is up. It's funny how they give you 23 gigs on your dropbox for 2 years, the same as your contract length. Something tells me that extending your contract will get you another 2 years once it's up. It might look like simple marketing, but honestly it's quite shady of them.
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http://fashion.pconline.com.cn/mobile/1204/2754053.html
If you go to the original article, there are 21 picks but it's not that helpful. The article is in Chinese but pictures are pictures. Most of the words say things like "screw here", etc.
It should be noted that this is the international version of the HTC One X.

Nexus 4, your first impressions....

Here it is...
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_16gb
$350 unlocked....
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Seems like I'd rather get the 8GB version for $50 less and just buy an SD card, lol. Does anyone know the specifics of that processor?

adobrakic said:
Seems like I'd rather get the 8GB version for $50 less and just buy an SD card, lol. Does anyone know the specifics of that processor?
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Well, for one it doesn't support SD (expandable memory) And it's processor is a SnapDragon s4 pro quad core 1.5ghz I believe.
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adobrakic said:
Seems like I'd rather get the 8GB version for $50 less and just buy an SD card...
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Given what I've seen looking into kernel/framework code for the SGS4G, I'd want as much internal memory as I could get. Using a FAT-formatted card and "faking" a permissions-protected file system on top of that is just an ugly hack.
Burned once by the 1G in the SGS4G, I'm already wary of T-Mobile's decision to ship the Note II with the minimum internal memory that they can be configured with.

It seems like the trend for storage is cloud now, and with unlimited plans like the new one from T-Mobile it is starting to make sense to me....especially with multiple android devices. The external SD card days may be numbered.
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Wow, a quad-core processor already? This may just be the next phone I purchase. @Jeff, do you really think you'd use up all of that 8GB for ROM & apps? That question sounds sarcastic and rhetorical, but i'm genuinely curious, especially since you know much more of how Android works than I do.

adobrakic said:
Wow, a quad-core processor already? This may just be the next phone I purchase. @Jeff, do you really think you'd use up all of that 8GB for ROM & apps? That question sounds sarcastic and rhetorical, but i'm genuinely curious, especially since you know much more of how Android works than I do.
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Its not so much about how much you use but the partitions. But being as it is a nexus device it has to follow the open source guidelines so that should never be a issue. matter of fact I dont think any phone that is not a Samsung uses a proprietary partition system like bml and such.

adobrakic said:
@Jeff, do you really think you'd use up all of that 8GB for ROM & apps?
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If it is a $50 difference over a two-year lifespan of the phone, that is something like $2 a month. For that, I'd rather not have to hope that app/data size wouldn't grow quickly. For example, I bought some motherboards for lightly loaded servers a couple years ago. I though that 1 GB would be plenty of memory for them. Now I'm cursing that I can't expand them over 2 GB as they only have one DIMM slot.
I don't know where things are going, but I am sure that the phone manufacturers would love to be able to get you to buy a new phone sooner rather than later. A related example is that Intel had a big problem in the mid 90s -- they realized that their processor power was getting to the point where any home user would not need to upgrade. So they invested heavily in digital TV, cable, and broadband so that there was demand for faster processors.

I think I might be able to get this
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Check the video at the end of this post...pretty cool.
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/android-photo-sphere-panorama-google/
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Swipe, toggles, aosp feeling.. damn i love google..
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Mmm, this will be my next phone .
I'm definitely getting this for Christmas.
I mean seriously, 2 GB of RAM! Plus a Quad core! That beats my old laptop! Which has 2 GB and 1.7 GHz processor (just one ).
I'm definitely getting the 16 GB, but I would really enjoy it if they added external storage :\

"Does TV Out work?"

jeffsf said:
"Does TV Out work?"
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What about wifi calling?

Would've been perfect but the lack of a microSD card slot and the lack of a 32gb model killed it for me. 16gb just simply isn't enough to hold my music collection as well as my pictures and videos and if you're an audiophile like me, then you know that music just streaming off the cloud won't cut it compared to music at 320kbps or lossless stored on the device itself. I wanna be able to listen to music while I'm on a roadtrip or on a plane, so if I have to rely on cloud service, I won't have most of my music with me... Unless they make a 32gb model, looks like I'm taking the iPhone 5 route...it was either a nexus android phone (I just cannot take the lack of updates anymore) or a iPhone and well the nexus was this close but they just had to have one downfall...you would think that they would have figured it out by now but no...
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if you're an audiophile like me
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No.
You are using a mobile device not a high end audio system at home.
Pictures would be better backed up to the cloud using something like Picassa or dropbox. That way they can be viewed anywhere.
I dont like the idea of being limited to a certain size of internal memory and no sdcard. But only because if the internal memory goes wonkers it costs more to replace than buying a new sdcard. Not because I want to claim to be a audiophile and need 320kbps files on my phone.

Okay yeah, this is a mobile device but why not make the most out of what you have? Why listen to crappy really compressed mp3's when you can store things at 320kbps where compression is minimal. With a good pair of headphones, I can hear the difference. It doesn't take a super high end system. I wanna be able to enjoy my music on the go, there's nothing wrong with that..even on YouTube you can tell the difference in sq between 720p and anything below it.
But what's the point in argueing about that on a phone forum, we both agree that we would rather not be confined to only 16gb of internal storage.. I don't understand why can't they simply include it. Every year, that's what people ask for and yet every year, they have to have some downfall.
Nexus S: No external storage and no HD Video Recording
Galaxy Nexus: No external storage again, sub par camera in comparison to other phones, and a pentile display.
Nexus 4: No external storage ONCE AGAIN.
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The biggest reason..cost. They dont care if you are willing to pay for it. They are looking to make a unlocked unrestricted phone. Its kinda like not putting LTE radios in. They are looking to make a good phone that is cheap enough people can buy it and not spend 600 bucks. They have found 350 is the price most people will pay for a unlocked phone and not be upset.
16GB is the point they can produce a phone and still make money at the 350 price point.

I think it's just part of the push towards cloud storage. The slight reduction in audio quality in return for the convenience of having their complete audio and video library on all of their devices is a trade I think the majority (not all ) of consumers have no problem with. Besides, with the trend of wider bandwidth for less money that has been with us since dial-up, I don't think it will be such a long time before the streaming quality improves further....historically that's what it's always done.
If audio is your prime concern then I would be more concerned with the type of DAC's in the phone as ultimately that will give you your real world "ceiling" on your audio quality.
I think Google had done fantastic job of providing the consumer with a feature packed, unlocked phone at a hell of a price. Much like with the N7 this will force down the prices of other manufacturers products in order to compete...a win for the consumer.
For anyone that thinks this phone isn't a great deal, Google "unlocked GS3 or iPhone 5" and get back to me.
Plus Whitehawkx, Romann, and the other aokp guys have been lighting up Twitter with tweets about how eager they are to get one, so the development should be strong right off the bat.
Just my 2 cents lol
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But think about it, it takes a lot more battery to steam music and continually use data in the background than it does to simply play music on your phone's memory. And what are you supposed to do when say you are on a roadtrip where signal is edge at best or when you are in a subway or plane where you don't have any signal at all? When I have a smart phone, it is my all-in-one device. It holds my music, works as my GPS, and acts as my phone. And what about apps? The whole point of the smartphone is to have apps right? Where are you gonna store your apps and games if they continue to go the cloud route and completely remove internal storage? Imagine using this galaxy s 4g without the 16gb micro sd card. In my opinion, that would be horrible. I don't wanna have to carry around an extra mp3 player around with me just to be able to fit less than half of my music collection. I don't think adding a micro SD card slot would have added that much to the costs. Whatever. I personally have no problem at all with signing a phone on contract because really, I am just saving money on the phone and paying as much as I would on a prepaid non-contract plan. I don't really see what is so bad with that. It would be more of a hassle switching constantly to different service providers than it would be to just stay with one.
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Google Android Chief: Why don’t Nexus devices have SD cards?

In short, SD card is too complicated. What?!
https://plus.google.com/114892667463719782631/posts/JAAMUzx1PFX
Matias Duarte said:
Why don’t Nexus devices have SD cards?
Everybody likes the idea of having an SD card, but in reality it's just confusing for users.
If you’re saving photos, videos or music, where does it go? Is it on your phone? Or on your card? Should there be a setting? Prompt everytime? What happens to the experience when you swap out the card? It’s just too complicated.
We take a different approach. Your Nexus has a fixed amount of space and your apps just seamlessly use it for you without you ever having to worry about files or volumes or any of that techy nonsense left over from the paleolithic era of computing.
With a Nexus you know exactly how much storage you get upfront and you can decide what’s the right size for you. That’s simple and good for users.
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When galaxy nexus was launched, It was the perfect phone for me .after I discovered that it has no external SD ,it is not my concern anymore
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lost_ said:
In short, SD card is too complicated. What?!
https://plus.google.com/114892667463719782631/posts/JAAMUzx1PFX
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The vast majority of people are not tech savvy so simple is better for Google and they will sell more. Same reasoning for the phone hybrid ui on the tablets.
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Happy to accept what google are saying, but if you wont offer the option of an SD card you probably need to up the max capacity from 16, to 32 and possible 64. Thats if you want the best product going anyway

I used to believe external SD card support is a must have. But in reality, I never needed it. And having everything in the ROM = Faster access.
TBH, I have yet to reach even 8GB let alone 16gb in my GNex.

16 gb are way to low for me. i am using my device as a mp3 player and i now have about 20 gb of music on my sd card. i seriously cant follow the arguments against an sd card slot

20gb of music? Wow...
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Hotte175 said:
16 gb are way to low for me. i am using my device as a mp3 player and i now have about 20 gb of music on my sd card. i seriously cant follow the arguments against an sd card slot
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You really need access to 20GB of music all the time? Why not use Google music to stream most of it and just keep your most listen songs on your device
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lol that's some insultingly poor marketing bs. Even Apple wouldn't make such a crappy argument to justify the removal of a very crucial and popular feature from one of their flagship devices.
If you backtrack and stop supporting something that people used to take for granted with your product, you better have a damn good reason.
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You really need access to 20GB of music all the time? Why not use Google music to stream most of it and just keep your most listen songs on your device
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Seriously?
1) capped, expensive data plans.
2) 3G/wifi are not a given for many users and usecases.
3) take longer to play a song that you already have a local copy of (why?)
4) Google Music does not have a public API and the official app sucks.
And for the record I definitely "need" at least 20 GB worth of music at any given time

It sounds like a statement Apple would issue. My old "dumb" phone had a setting for whether to save camera pics and videos on internal memory or external microSD. Is is really that hard Google, or would you rather take the Apple approach.
Here are my reasons why phones should have SD slots:
-You can get tons of cloud storage for free, but using that storage will cost a lot if you don't have unlimited data. It will also be slower to access than locally stored files.
-Programs, especially games are getting bigger. Its not uncommon to have a single game want a GB of space for its files these days. They will only continue getting bigger and that phone you just bought is stuck with the same amount of memory. It may be enough space now, but what about in a year?
-The price to buy a device with larger internal storage costs much more in $ per GB than a microSD would. Its $50 more to go from the 8GB Nexus 4 to the 16GB. Meanwhile I've seen 64gb microSDXC cards go on sale for $50.
-The memory is not stuck in one device. If I invest in a 64gb card I can take it to my next phone without paying more.
-Its very cheap for an OEM to add a microSD slot, were not asking for a lot of hardware.

Hotte175 said:
16 gb are way to low for me. i am using my device as a mp3 player and i now have about 20 gb of music on my sd card. i seriously cant follow the arguments against an sd card slot
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Dude 20GB is a LOT of music. It's probably a few days 72 hours worth of music. Don't keep it on your phone, keep about 14 hours, that's the plane ride from USA to China (halfway across the world). I can't even begin to justify the need of so much music.
I only have maybe 4 hours or so of music, that's enough for me. I don't care if a few songs repeat, it's like the radio.
EDIT assuming each 10MB file is 3 mins long, then you actually have 100 hours of music.
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When the argument becomes about how much space a consumer really needs, then the answer is obvious: let the consumer decides.
But if you are willing to concede and let the maker make the choice on storage capacity, at a time when storage has become so dirt cheap, then a good option is to buy a product whose name begins with i.

That is one weak argument from google.
Why not make the nexus 8 or 16gb as it is AND keep sd card support?

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That is one weak argument from google.
Why not make the nexus 8 or 16gb as it is AND keep sd card support?
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They had reasons about being secure and faster data transfer before too, but those were also pretty weak arguments.
I would like SD cards, but that's the tradeoff for owning a Nexus, I guess.
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Yeah it's too complicated. 16GB internal storage is perfect for me.

Nexus one.
Removable battery
Sd slot.
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Nexus one.
Removable battery
Sd slot.
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Nexii had a removable battery until the Nexus 7, that is relatively new.
And the N1 had an internal storage of what? 300mb? If it didn't have microSD it would be one messed up phone
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Your Nexus has a fixed amount of space and your apps just seamlessly use it for you without you ever having to worry about files or volumes or any of that techy nonsense left over from the paleolithic era of computing.
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Frankly, that's almost insulting to assume that we are that stupid. i chose Android over iOS why? Because I am not stupid, I do not want to be spoon-fed technology like a drooling infant. I chose android because I have a choice- I can choose what to do with my device, how I do it, everything like that. I can choose the software I want to install--and I can chose where I get that software from. I can even choose the operating system, or write one myself, if I want. That's what makes Android such a great platform. Choice, scaleability.
To just write that off as "too complicated" is absolutely...dumb. And makes me question just what the future of the android platform will be.

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Dude 20GB is a LOT of music. It's probably a few days 72 hours worth of music. Don't keep it on your phone, keep about 14 hours, that's the plane ride from USA to China (halfway across the world). I can't even begin to justify the need of so much music.
I only have maybe 4 hours or so of music, that's enough for me. I don't care if a few songs repeat, it's like the radio.
EDIT assuming each 10MB file is 3 mins long, then you actually have 100 hours of music.
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maybe it is a bit offtopic but imo 20gb of music is not much. i still use a mp3player (much better than using the smartphone) and there i got 8gb & 32gb (sd card).i really like to have discographies on the go of my favourite bands.
also: not everyone is using .mp3 - people also use .flac which takes a lot of space.
regarding the topic: sounds a bit stupid to me. probably the production is just cheaper this way and it makes it more difficult to put custom roms on it.

I think the google android chief is brilliant, that philosophy should be applied everywhere:
-4 doors in the car? Too confusing for the user, seal 3 doors, that way we always know how to get in and out.
-6 windows in the house? Make it just one, so we don't look out through the wrong one.
-who needs cable tv? Block all channels but one, so we don't get confused as to what's on tv.
-you have 2 kids? Send the other one to google, keep just the 1. That way you'll always know who failed their math test, or who fed the hamster to the cat.
It's a marketing strategy to get more $$$. That way they can sell very expensive gb of internal space.

Where's the 32GB Damnit!

The waiting is killing me? Anyone have contacts on this inside of ATT?

The links I have been following have dried up. Disappointing to say the least. Will not buy the 16gb model. The new LG has my attn atm--not quite the S4, but more than satisfactory for my needs. It may cost Samsung sales.

I wanna know the same thing

IM DYING HERE! so over my apple iphone, its sickening me!

It's a huge BS blame game. AT&T's people claim that Samsung isn't providing the 32GB yet and Samsung claims AT&T hasn't asked for it yet. Of course, there are no "official" releases from either yet, just Twitter, Facebook, and forum replies from people that claim to know. It seams as though AT&T is the only US carrier that said they would carry the 32GB but only "soon" has been hinted as to when. And no one (AND I MEAN NO ONE) at AT&T is willing to talk about it. I'm sure it's like all of the rest of AT&T's screw-ups, they hope it will go away if enough time goes by and people will forget about it.

I work for an indirect third party, in our system they've already been shipped. We're getting them on the 5th. But not allowed to sell until the 19th.
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I work for an indirect third party, in our system they've already been shipped. We're getting them on the 5th. But not allowed to sell until the 19th.
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I hope this is true & hopefully AT&T doesn't have an exclusive on the 32gb models but I read that AT&T does have an exclusive on 64gb though.
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Take this for what it is worth, but a rep told yesterday that 32gb model had been postponed indefinitely. She did not know why, but I told I would not buy a 16gb model with only half available for storage. So looking at the optimus G Pro now...

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Take this for what it is worth, but a rep told yesterday that 32gb model had been postponed indefinitely. She did not know why, but I told I would not buy a 16gb model with only half available for storage. So looking at the optimus G Pro now...
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I just hope they're not holding it back to patch the bootloader.
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dkirchik said:
I work for an indirect third party, in our system they've already been shipped. We're getting them on the 5th. But not allowed to sell until the 19th.
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As 24 year retired military myself--checked your bio--I am taking your word for it--
However, as indirect third, does that mean you may get them and att stores may not?
I don't trust any in-store rep. They have their own agenda--
Don't disappoint me--
My one son wants the s4 to pair with new game controller coming out for it. But, I may go LG if they don't show soon.
Anyway, thanks for tip--

97prelude said:
IM DYING HERE! so over my apple iphone, its sickening me!
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WHY must you ALL need more than 16GB of storage..... Samsung devices have freaking SD Card slots, and in which you can stick a 64GB card in or even a 128GB if you can afford it....

hyelton said:
WHY must you ALL need more than 16GB of storage..... Samsung devices have freaking SD Card slots, and in which you can stick a 64GB card in or even a 128GB if you can afford it....
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Because apps cant install to SD card simple as that. This is a bs Google move so what good does an sd card give me if my apps can't use it and with games being 2gb in size now it goes away quick. I have a 64gb card and only few apps installed and I am down to 6gb free space and my SD card hasn't been touched. Piss poor programming by Google by doing this with the OS.
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sabre31 said:
Because apps cant install to SD card simple as that. This is a bs Google move so what good does an sd card give me if my apps can't use it and with games being 2gb in size now it goes away quick. I have a 64gb card and only few apps installed and I am down to 6gb free space and my SD card hasn't been touched. Piss poor programming by Google by doing this with the OS.
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This

sabre31 said:
Because apps cant install to SD card simple as that. This is a bs Google move so what good does an sd card give me if my apps can't use it and with games being 2gb in size now it goes away quick. I have a 64gb card and only few apps installed and I am down to 6gb free space and my SD card hasn't been touched. Piss poor programming by Google by doing this with the OS.
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I agree. Even though I went ahead and got a 16 gb, I think its BS that google changed that. Does anyone know why exactly?
I really wish these carriers would pull their heads out of their a** and start being able to offer multiple storage sizes. Even with an SD slot, they can release the fruit phone with multiple choices, why can't we have that same luxury with samsung?
Just my 2 cents.

This is why these android manufacturers can't compete with iPhone. The reason Google did this is for greed. They want you to store all your stuff on their servers so they can mine it for data and deliver you targeted ads. This is their sole business and money maker. Why do you think they made android free in first place.
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As 24 year retired military myself--checked your bio--I am taking your word for it--
However, as indirect third, does that mean you may get them and att stores may not?
I don't trust any in-store rep. They have their own agenda--
Don't disappoint me--
My one son wants the s4 to pair with new game controller coming out for it. But, I may go LG if they don't show soon.
Anyway, thanks for tip--
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My dad was sad when I chose the Navy over the Air Force. He's retired AF.
As an indirect we have almost the same phones as AT&T, we use the same system they use. Just we charge less for the phone. We have the S4 for 149.99. The htc one for 149.99 and the 32gb one for 189.99. The s4 32gb is 189.99 as well when we start to sell it.
The indirect I work for, we don't pad or hop the accounts were not paid on the phone or activation the same way as most third parties . I also used to work for AT&T.
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dkirchik said:
My dad was sad when I chose the Navy over the Air Force. He's retired AF.
As an indirect we have almost the same phones as AT&T, we use the same system they use. Just we charge less for the phone. We have the S4 for 149.99. The htc one for 149.99 and the 32gb one for 189.99. The s4 32gb is 189.99 as well when we start to sell it.
The indirect I work for, we don't pad or hop the accounts were not paid on the phone or activation the same way as most third parties . I also used to work for AT&T.
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Thanks again dkirchik,
I will keep the 19th in mind for att. Hopefully they start to sell on that date. Last day for 100.00 trade in card also.
Am sure you enjoyed your career as much as I did mine--

To me this day in age, I stream nearly everything. I use spotify for music and even with several roms and others things saved on my internal SD, instill usually have 6+ GB available out of 16 so I don't find a need for 31 personally.

lordpelvis said:
I agree. Even though I went ahead and got a 16 gb, I think its BS that google changed that. Does anyone know why exactly?
I really wish these carriers would pull their heads out of their a** and start being able to offer multiple storage sizes. Even with an SD slot, they can release the fruit phone with multiple choices, why can't we have that same luxury with samsung?
Just my 2 cents.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card?style_mobile=0
This is why. And reality is. Everyone wanting all this storage is a minority. Average users. (And yes after the success of the s3 Samsung is totally in the business of average users.) Don't need a lot of space. I never filled my 8 GB n4.
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dkirchik said:
My dad was sad when I chose the Navy over the Air Force. He's retired AF.
As an indirect we have almost the same phones as AT&T, we use the same system they use. Just we charge less for the phone. We have the S4 for 149.99. The htc one for 149.99 and the 32gb one for 189.99. The s4 32gb is 189.99 as well when we start to sell it.
The indirect I work for, we don't pad or hop the accounts were not paid on the phone or activation the same way as most third parties . I also used to work for AT&T.
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Who do you work for?

Will the nexus 5 have the same issue as the nexus 4

I know that the nexus 4 had some issues in November where it was sold out in 20 minutes then taking Google a while they re-stock. Will this be an issue with the nexus 5 ? Share you're opinions
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I'd like to think they learned from the N4 but you never know. We'll have to wait and see.

I was actually thinking it could be marketing
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Yes, it will because of the price a lot of people will buy it. But if the base price is $349 then maybe not as bad.

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Yes, it will because of the price a lot of people will buy it. But if the base price is $349 then maybe not as bad.
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I think its gonna be 299$ for 16 and 399$ for 32gb with a bigger battery
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I'm agreeing with droidlife and that there is no solid rumor of a 2 battery version. Unless it was going to go through the FCC in the past 2 weeks and now it can't. There could be 2 storage versions but who knows.
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No I don't think there will be a 16gb version. It'll be 32gb as the base.
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What makes you think that? The FCC documents, as well as the leaked service manual have both mentioned 16gb.

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What makes you think that? The FCC documents, as well as the leaked service manual have both mentioned 16gb.
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In that case, I'll take back my word. That just sucks.
My 3 years old Vibrant have 16gb for godsakes (not to mention the microSD slot).

eksasol said:
In that case, I'll take back my word. That just sucks.
My 3 years old Vibrant have 16gb for godsakes (not to mention the microSD slot).
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I don't really see why people need more than 16GB, I have a 32GB sd card in my phone and I haven't put anything on it.

don't see the need for more than 16 GB either...esp with otg cable...
but I would pay extra for a bigger battery if that rumor is true

nolook said:
don't see the need for more than 16 GB either...esp with otg cable...
but I would pay extra for a bigger battery if that rumor is true
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Nexus 4 didn't have OTG support (without custom kernel and external power, which defeats the purpose). I'm still waiting for confirmation for the Nexus 5. OTG drains alot of battery and not the most convenient either, but it is one of the key feature I'm looking for.

The Nexus 4 launch was a failure because Google didn't expect this much demand from the Nexus 4, but Google has learned their lesson and has told LG to make a lot more Nexus 5s for the launch than last years Nexus 4.

JCreazy said:
I don't really see why people need more than 16GB, I have a 32GB sd card in my phone and I haven't put anything on it.
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I have a 64 gig sd card with 15 gigs left and 16 internal gigs on phone. Hd videos ,hd games take a lot of space plus if you have a little one you tend to take alot of pictures. 16 internal with no sd slot for most people won't cut it. I could fill that up in a weekend.
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JCreazy said:
I don't really see why people need more than 16GB, I have a 32GB sd card in my phone and I haven't put anything on it.
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It really bothers me when people try to make this argument...it's so self-centered, and besides, it's a fallacy. Your argument is this: Because you won't fill up 16gb of storage, it must be true that no one can have any possible reason to fill up 16gb of storage.
Everyone's usage patterns are different. Here's some logic that's not a fallacy: Because there are many people hoping and asking for a 32gb or 64gb option, it must be true that many people need more than 16gb.
Now, here's the part that really angers me. Why don't they just offer the user a choice? 16gb for $299, 32gb for $349, 64gb for $429. How hard can that really be?

mattdm said:
It really bothers me when people try to make this argument...it's so self-centered, and besides, it's a fallacy. Your argument is this: Because you won't fill up 16gb of storage, it must be true that no one can have any possible reason to fill up 16gb of storage.
Everyone's usage patterns are different. Here's some logic that's not a fallacy: Because there are many people hoping and asking for a 32gb or 64gb option, it must be true that many people need more than 16gb.
Now, here's the part that really angers me. Why don't they just offer the user a choice? 16gb for $299, 32gb for $349, 64gb for $429. How hard can that really be?
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I think the reason is that they don't want you to have that storage, they don't think you need it. With the cloud and all that jazz.
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JCreazy said:
I think the reason is that they don't want you to have that storage, they don't think you need it. With the cloud and all that jazz.
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You're right, and that makes me mad too. Do they think we all have unlimited data? I certainly don't. Besides, there are plenty of places I go where I don't have the best signal...I'm not going to be watching movies on my phone in my house, or in the middle of the city! I'm going to do it when I'm on a road trip, or on an airplane, when streaming is not an option. Not to mention storing nandroid backups, where cloud storage is never an option.

JCreazy said:
I don't really see why people need more than 16GB, I have a 32GB sd card in my phone and I haven't put anything on it.
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porn

That was by far the ****tiest launch of a phone, and lets hope Google makes sure they have enough to go around for a bit longer than 20 mins.
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