[Q] Slim Rom - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi xda,
I wanted to post it in the appropriate subsection, unfortunatly I was not allowed due to the 10-post rule
So I am a long time Nexus S custom Rom user, and was always very satisfied with the development and improvements of the Roms.
Currently I am on Slim Rom (4.2.2 b5) and I have the problem, that with all the new implementations, I am often running out of memory. w/o having any not necessary apps running.
Mainly I have System, Apex and Swiftkey, which are stealing RAM:
System-UI up to 90MB
Android System up to 70MB
Swiftkey up to 50MB
The System is no more 'snappy', like people say. When I am on browser and change to home, it takes 2-3 seconds. Swiftkey gets killed sometimes, while in use. Free RAM is only ~5MB at this time (considering apps, cache, ...).
So my question is, is our Nexus S slowly not sufficient enough for the recent ROMs?
Or, what can I do to have more free Ram (by deleting apps or killing processes).
Thanks a lot, Patrick

ppreuss said:
So my question is, is our Nexus S slowly not sufficient enough for the recent ROMs?
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short answer-
it's getting pretty dated
longer answer-
i'v been running beta's of slim for a good while
first on a 4G
now a 9020a
my phone is a communication and GPS device that
i take pics with and play mp3's sometimes
it is not a game platform
build 5 is, in fact, quite snappy and smooth
on my device
i suggest a _complete_ wipe
and install of the available roms
without restoring any of your apps
and see how they act stock
fwiw
mh

louderstill said:
i suggest a _complete_ wipe
and install of the available roms
without restoring any of your apps
and see how they act stock
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Thank you for your answer!
I know that a full wipe is recommended, so I am doing this on every build. Format Data, wipe dalvic, cache and battery stats.
App Data is restored via Titanium backup.
Currently I don't know what I could do better.
My additional apps are: AFWall+, Android tuner, Business calendar, Camer Zoom, Doggcatcher, eWeather, IM+, K-9, Moon reader, MX Player, NSTools, Poweramp, Quickpic, RealCalc, Sleep as Android, Solid explorer, Tapatalk, Ti Backup, TomTom.
If this helps?! What is your free Ram usually (including cache and other)?

ppreuss said:
Thank you for your answer!
I know that a full wipe is recommended, so I am doing this on every build. Format Data, wipe dalvic, cache and battery stats.
App Data is restored via Titanium backup.
Currently I don't know what I could do better.
My additional apps are: AFWall+, Android tuner, Business calendar, Camer Zoom, Doggcatcher, eWeather, IM+, K-9, Moon reader, MX Player, NSTools, Poweramp, Quickpic, RealCalc, Sleep as Android, Solid explorer, Tapatalk, Ti Backup, TomTom.
If this helps?! What is your free Ram usually (including cache and other)?
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With cache and system included I keep over 20mb of ram while using apps.. With just apps (how most ROMs have it displayed).. I have around 130mb free.. I use greenify, set background limits and still have over 100 apps on my phone.. I use a theme and themed icons on Nova launcher with three widgets running.. No lag and never have an app I'm using close due to memory constraints...
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Thanks too!
Does greenify helps finding Ram-eaters?
Sorry if I ask, what would be good background limits?

ppreuss said:
Thanks too!
Does greenify helps finding Ram-eaters?
Sorry if I ask, what would be good background limits?
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Greenify pauses unused apps ( does not block them, as they will function normally ).. It doesn't find them, but it does hinder their unwanted activities...
I keep my limit at three ( this can be found at the bottom of developers options ) but I can't tell you what is best.. I used to use only two, but one of my widgets always seemed to stop, now it seems fine..
I also don't keep sync on and limit the ability of apps to auto sync..

Setting.Out said:
Greenify pauses unused apps ( does not block them, as they will function normally ).. It doesn't find them, but it does hinder their unwanted activities...
I keep my limit at three ( this can be found at the bottom of developers options ) but I can't tell you what is best.. I used to use only two, but one of my widgets always seemed to stop, now it seems fine..
I also don't keep sync on and limit the ability of apps to auto sync..
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Thank you for your help!
I installed Greenify and am now on build 6. Everything seems to be much better now!
The newest build of SlimROM is really great!

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[TIP] Deleting useless stock Samsung apps

If found an app that can delete those useless apps that come pre-installed on Samsung phones.
It's called ''Titanium Backup'', and it can be found in the Market
I found it to be very useful, because some of these apps open up on boot en fill your RAM while not having any added value to your phone.
You can also backup apps as the title, ''Titanium Backup'', obviously suggests.
So you can backup files you are not sure of if they are mandatory to the system before you delete them.
If you are using a custom launcher you can also delete the TWlauncher.
Dude you are talking about one of the most popular applications that requires root access on the market (if not the most popular It's obviously great, no doubt about this.
I'm not a mod or something and please don't consider it a as personal attack on you, but let me just express my own opinion: I don't think this information requires a new thread.
I woudn't delete a TW Launcher since it's the only launcher with hardware acceleration. TB has a better option: "freeze" - you simply shut down process without deleting it. You never know when you will need it.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I was just looking for something to post because I want to be added value to our forum.
This was the first thing that came to mind.
No problem, every effort in our growing community is appreciated !
It is valuable to be able to remove the samsung apps, personally I removed the hubs because I'll never use them.
About apps that launch on startup and occupy ram: please don't worry about this, the android system tries to hold apps in ram so that they can startup quickly when you need them again, the system will move them out if the active app really needs more ram. This is why task killers really aren't worth the effort.
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It would also be helpful to have a list of those apps that can safely be removed.
I found that these useless apps take up ram again even if they are not needed. Though everybody says "android handles this perfectly" my system slows down considerably. I installed several always running apps and the combination of wanted and useles apps took up almost all my ram.
I rooted my phone and tried several apps , including TB to correct this situation.
I finally found a nice tool: gemini app manager. It allows me to disable autostart/ notification events so that an App is not reloaded after each fart from the OS.
It reduced my permanent mem usage by almost 130MB!
This makes my Galaxy R responsive like fresh from the box.
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any way to get those apps kicked out of RAM for the unrooted user...??
coz when i choose "Clear memory" it still keeps consuming lots of RAM
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any way to get those apps kicked out of RAM for the unrooted user...??
coz when i choose "Clear memory" it still keeps consuming lots of RAM
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That is my main reason forr rooting! And since it's so easy and has no negative aspects - why shouldn't i do it?

Galaxy y Ram problem

I got Samsung galaxy y with 290MB of RAM, but unfortunately, when I installed some apps, multitasking became impossible, None of my work runs in background, . RAM is all the time occupied by Go sms, Launcher pro (Needed) google maps, system sync, software update, DRM contents, Email. sns, SyncmIDS ( I dont need them all)
Even clearing RAM and force closing these apps results nothing.....
Any help, ???
Anique.ali said:
I got Samsung galaxy y with 290MB of RAM, but unfortunately, when I installed some apps, multitasking became impossible, None of my work runs in background, . RAM is all the time occupied by Go sms, Launcher pro (Needed) google maps, system sync, software update, DRM contents, Email. sns, SyncmIDS ( I dont need them all)
Even clearing RAM and force closing these apps results nothing.....
Any help, ???
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Sorry, no way to fix this without simply getting a new phone. 290mb is nothing
restart then fast clear ram it will go down to 136mb then fast up to 200:highfive:
atticusmas said:
Sorry, no way to fix this without simply getting a new phone. 290mb is nothing
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Most useless post?
I got the same phone and it's SWEET!
@OP: First of all uninstall GOsms. Go apps are real RAM sharks and should be left to users like atticusmas.
Then root your phone, install SD Maid and clean up your device. Uninstall apps like Maps, Software Update, Google Backup(if you're not using it), etc. A guide line on which apps are safe to uninstall can be found here.
You can also consider installing a custom ROM (Creed's and Repencis are the best ones - many features and fast as lightning (tested by me )).
Whether or not you install a custom ROM is up to you but the one thing you HAVE to install is V6 Supercharger. It will solve all your problems.
And feel free to thank me
Installing a custom Rom will solve this problem to some extent ?
MarcoToo said:
Most useless post?
I got the same phone and it's SWEET!
@OP: First of all uninstall GOsms. Go apps are real RAM sharks and should be left to users like atticusmas.
Then root your phone, install SD Maid and clean up your device. Uninstall apps like Maps, Software Update, Google Backup(if you're not using it), etc. A guide line on which apps are safe to uninstall can be found here.
You can also consider installing a custom ROM (Creed's and Repencis are the best ones - many features and fast as lightning (tested by me )).
Whether or not you install a custom ROM is up to you but the one thing you HAVE to install is V6 Supercharger. It will solve all your problems.
And feel free to thank me
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Installing a custom Rom will solve this problem to some extent ?
Most certainly.
But cleaning up your system and installing V6 will be enough to get you running. Use V6 no matter what. It's gonna make you fly.
And honestly uninstall GO sms.
If you want I can also send you my self made ROM. I reduced it to a minimum.
Anique.ali said:
I got Samsung galaxy y with 290MB of RAM, but unfortunately, when I installed some apps, multitasking became impossible, None of my work runs in background, . RAM is all the time occupied by Go sms, Launcher pro (Needed) google maps, system sync, software update, DRM contents, Email. sns, SyncmIDS ( I dont need them all)
Even clearing RAM and force closing these apps results nothing.....
Any help, ???
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Well I am too late to answer your problem, but still my post might help someone else.
I myself am using galaxy y and implemented the below described tweak and ended with a successful result.
Clearing Memory before this tweak would just drop to 156 mb to the maximum but after this tweak it goes to 101 or even below 90 mb easily.
You can use a tweak to overcome your problem.
DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
As you have your phone rooted, go to /system/build.prop and edit it with a text editor (You can use Root Manager for this process) and add this line at the bottom of the page
"ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1" (without quotes)
After adding this line carefully reboot your phone and clear memory with your phone's task manager and you can observe a much of ram left.
CAUTION: DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG WITH YOUR PHONE.
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im suggest you using v6 supercharger..
and also setting your lmk value..
and uninstall apps that use lot of ram..

Greenify: someone use it on N5? What are the apps it's hibernate?

I personally believe that the main weakness of the Nexus 5 is battery life. After trying for about a week the official app of Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app) without becoming satisfied (I have not found significant improvements, may have only a placebo effect), I switched to Greenify (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify) with the Donation Package.
Do some of you use it? Users comments on Play Store seem excited (so I decided to try the paid version).
The paid version also allows you to hibernate the system apps, but I have not enabled this function (and would therefore be excluded almost all Google Apps), according to you should enable this option? Or rather, what are the apps that should hibernate / greenify?
I use it, and I'm pretty satisfied, you can theoretically hibernate all the apps you want, but is not good with apps need too synching like emails, chat, messenger and apps wich you have widgets, otherwise they will not work properly
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I'm not sure what the point of Greenify is then. If you can't greenify the apps you need, like Gmail, texts, etc., then how is battery life saved?
Han Solo 1 said:
I'm not sure what the point of Greenify is then. If you can't greenify the apps you need, like Gmail, texts, etc., then how is battery life saved?
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geenify all the other crappily written apps that you install. if you greenify apps like gmail, you wont get your email in a timely manor. there are plenty of other apps that start up without you opening them that can be greenified.
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if you greenify apps like gmail, you wont get your email in a timely manor.
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Have you tested that? I haven't but push notifications should wake up Gmail.
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stremax said:
I use it, and I'm pretty satisfied, you can theoretically hibernate all the apps you want, but is not good with apps need too synching like emails, chat, messenger and apps wich you have widgets, otherwise they will not work properly
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I agree that it's not good with apps with widgets on the home screen because the author of Greenify specify it, but I not agree for apps that need synchronization/notifications like emails, chat, messenger because it they use GCM (Google Cloud Messaging) they can be hibernated without lose push notifications!
I doubt only with system apps...
I have greenified quite everything that does not provide notification.
I use it for Facebook and Netflix, that helped my battery tremendously.
I used to use Greenify on my HTC One. I'd hibernate everything that wasn't 'system' and thought it was doing some good. Then I discovered that I was actually getting better battery life WITHOUT using it, so I don't really believe that it does any good.
To reiterate what others have said, I use to Greenify to hibernate any apps that aren't pushing me notifications. I'm honestly not sure if I see a huge difference in battery because it could be a number of things from changing ROMs or updating kernels, etc. But one thing for sure is that I'm actually pretty satisfied with the battery life on my N5. With the N4 I would be lucky to last me to dinner, but now I have plenty of battery to spare by the time I'm passing out in bed.
So I guess Greenify can potentially help battery life, but it's definitely not the answer to a magically longer lasting battery.
maxwarp79 said:
I personally believe that the main weakness of the Nexus 5 is battery life. After trying for about a week the official app of Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app) without becoming satisfied (I have not found significant improvements, may have only a placebo effect), I switched to Greenify (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify) with the Donation Package.
Do some of you use it? Users comments on Play Store seem excited (so I decided to try the paid version).
The paid version also allows you to hibernate the system apps, but I have not enabled this function (and would therefore be excluded almost all Google Apps), according to you should enable this option? Or rather, what are the apps that should hibernate / greenify?
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Greenify is excellent. But using Greenify without knowing the cause of the problem isn't going to fix anything. Think of it as a bandaid. A bandaid for poorly written (usually intentionally) apps. Facebook comes to mind.
It won't greenify system apps without using Xposed (which doesn't work with ART). These system apps, Gmail, Chrome, Keep (I froze all the other junk Google apps), are actually pretty well behaved these days (they had huge issues in the past).
I think that with KitKat, Greenify has lost some of it's usefulness, with how aggressive KK is in killing off unused apps.
The app you should be downloading is BetterBatteryStats. Upload some logs for us, and most likely we can fix the problem for you. When the cause of the problem is determined, you can then choose the best course of action yourself.
The battery on the N5 is fine. I ran a BBS log while I was sleeping. After 6ish hours, the usage was 0.1% per hour. I would say anywhere between 0.1-0.4 is good. Wifi and mobile network, doesn't matter much if connection is solid.
anyways, greenify is not there to help battery, its there to have more free ram. but it can potentially help battery if you are running apps that open themselves and drain battery, like that aweful facebook app.

[Q] Ram problem

Hiii
I'm having problem with "deasapearing ram" Every 2-3 days i've to restart phone completly becouse when i check in working apps settings i've like 40-80 free ram. in use is about 780-820 mb. it does not add up to 1gb anyway. So when i have so little ram to use apps are force to close, mx player, some ****ty family guy app even chrome is closing down. apps like app killer are not helping tehy free like about 10-60 mb. anyone noticed something like me, any advice?
I think it is the phone, I have the same problem :/
NewTimesTube said:
I think it is the phone, I have the same problem :/
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yeah, but this **** doesn't happen to all m2. i hope this is software problem not hardware.
im not facing this problem, maybe reflash the stock firmware resolve the problem
batoem said:
im not facing this problem, maybe reflash the stock firmware resolve the problem
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i did it already through pc companion suite. no help at all.
Maybe root and uninstall bloatware can help you with this situation
this problem probaly because of too many background apps
and one more thing .. linux based OS , ram always been used everytime
you can disable some apps like google maps or integrated apps that u dont use
I have the similar problem with my RAM. As 1st, RAM is always at 70% usage.
How can i disable some applications permanently so they do not run by themselves? I dont want to unninstal them, just disable them, is it possible and if it is can u please tell me how to do it in few short steps.
Second thing, beside other apps i have installed Facebook, WhatsApp and CleanMaster app. Every time i go Settings -> Aplications -> Running Aplications, there are these 3 apps always running. I dont know whats causing them to be opened at all times. I think if i open Facebook (for example) even once, it stays up and running in background even if i remove it from that Dock Menu Tab by sliding it a side.
Is there anything i can do to make this stop, and save some of my RAM free?
Thanks in advance
4.3 is the worst from all versions in terms of memory handling. On top of that it comes very heavy on memory foot-print right after booting up.
After booting up your phone has about 300 - 350 Mb left to work with. Open your Navigation app and your browser, and the memory of your phone is "done". The happy apps reshuffling starts, causing screen lag and app start-up delay.
When a phone app with1 mB in size was considered big, and 5 mB of RAM consumption enormous, than shuffling things around was no prob. Now shuffle a 240 mB Navi app out of the memory, and replace it with that 70 mB home launcher when you are done. Takes the same time and is the same, right? And users have no clue how memory is used, right? And if so many complain about memory handling? But still, Many will tell us "unused RAM is wasted RAM".
What can you do?
- Root your pone and remove all apps you don't need, diligently and consequently
- Greenify user apps, in particular those which you do not need always.
- Rethink if you need to be on Viber, Whatsapp and Skype constanly. If not, greenify.
- Access Facebook from a browser, ditto for other functions and apps where a website is availabe and mostly does the same
- When installing a new app always go for the smaller one that just does what you need to do. Not the one with all the function that you could need, and not the one with more eye candy.
certain apps on android are a no-no. For example, facebook (from what I've heard) and skype use lots of resources and slow down the phone. You should disable or uninstall any app that isn't of use to you. To check the RAM usage of apps and disable them, go to settings -> apps, running will show you current apps, and if you go in all apps you can scroll through them and disable unneeded apps.
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Second thing, beside other apps i have installed Facebook, WhatsApp and CleanMaster app. Every time i go Settings -> Aplications -> Running Aplications, there are these 3 apps always running. I dont know whats causing them to be opened at all times. I think if i open Facebook (for example) even once, it stays up and running in background even if i remove it from that Dock Menu Tab by sliding it a side.
Is there anything i can do to make this stop, and save some of my RAM free?
Thanks in advance
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Search for an app that lets you manage startup apps on boot. Another way is Greenify, as it unloads apps from memory.
BTW. Cleanmaster is redundant in my eyes.
Thank you very much, this helped a lot.
i've disabled around 15 apps, some sony crap and stuff what i know what it is and i don't use. still the same.

Multi user slowing me down

Hello XDA community
I've updated my samsung galaxy s6 sm-g920f to android 5.1.1 and unlocked the multiuser functionality in the build.props file.
However since then it seems like my phone sometimes is extremely slow, and sometimes when switching profiles it can take up to a full minute before it actually does so.
During the profile switch it'll be showing the background of the profile it's switching to, but no oher interface.
Sometimes it'll also show a message that the app that i currently have open has run out of memory (it's shown shortly so not entirely sure what it exactly states).
Anyone else out there having the same issue, anyone found a solution?
I've tried to use various apps to track the CPU and Memory usage, and the result is quite boring, the CPU is not really used and the memory always leaves about 2-300mb of ram available.
Try deleting your app cache with App Cache Cleaner downloadble from Playstore.
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Try deleting your app cache with App Cache Cleaner downloadble from Playstore.
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Thanks for your reply, i'll try it and see how it works !

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