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An official ICS release. \\This is not news, tips or how-to's.\\

I better get an ice cream sandwich after having to deal with your crap HTC. This device was full of flaws when I bought it. That was inexcusable after paying top dollar for it. Verizon (Ripoff Mobile, Inc.) was too uptight to do anything about it. I would not be surprised if all the official talk was nothing more than hot air in the end. At least developers are working on a version. I am so glad I finally had some time to get root permissions on this phone. Did you feel betrayed after buying your TBolt? To be honest, I would have bought a marked down model if I had of know ahead of time what was going to happen.
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I would have deleted this if the option were available.

why so pissy. My phone was perfect out of teh box, it is faster than any of my friends dual core phones, and I have true unlimited 4g, and why do you care if we get official ics, you will just use a rom anyway, not an ota

Mr._Takahashi said:
I better get an ice cream sandwich after having to deal with your crap HTC. This device was full of flaws when I bought it. That was inexcusable after paying top dollar for it. Verizon (Ripoff Mobile, Inc.) was too uptight to do anything about it. I would not be surprised if all the official talk was nothing more than hot air in the end. At least developers are working on a version. I am so glad I finally had some time to get root permissions on this phone. Did you feel betrayed after buying your TBolt? To be honest, I would have bought a marked down model if I had of know ahead of time what was going to happen.
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Easy killer. My phone has worked mostly fine since day one. Sure there were some software issues (random reboots due to the LTE radio, GPS, the most annoying), but that is to be expected when you buy bleeding edge technology. This was the first Verizon LTE smartphone, EVER.
That being said, the device is still on par with other top devices today. I haven't upgraded, because I haven't found another device I like that much better than this. The Nexus is nice, but I'm not big on the light flimsy build of those phones, plus samsung is notorious for poor reliability. Motorola screen's have been awful so far, or I would have considered the Razr Maxx.
Bottom line...why don't you cry about it...
BTW, there is nothing special about ICS. Sure it's nice to have the newest thing, but there really isn't that much to get excited about. I still don't understand why honey comb and ICS got rid of the search button. I use that thing constantly.

I have to say I've been 99% happy with this phone since release.
The 1% was the odd rebooting issue I had for 4 weeks in aprilish.
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Honestly I've liked this phone since I first got it, battery life sucked but that was nothing rooting and loading a rom couldn't fix. Other than that I'm still happy with my purchase.
I especially like it cause me and my girlfriend got phones from a good batch, handles low voltages and overclocking even up to 1.8 (not needed though) perfectly.
Thanks to all the developers who have been developing for the thunderbolt since day one, and all that are continuing to do so!
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Bigandrewgold said:
why so pissy. My phone was perfect out of teh box, it is faster than any of my friends dual core phones, and I have true unlimited 4g, and why do you care if we get official ics, you will just use a rom anyway, not an ota
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Let's see.
1. The phone was the Flagship phone for LTE and was released with Froyo.
2. The phone was buggy at release and still shows some issues.
3. Not everyone's phone was "perfect out of teh box". Some of us had to get replacements multiple times to get a *good one*.
4. ICS does have improvements over Froyo and GB.
5. Official OTA release of ICS will allow devs to create much better ROMs for this phone, rather approaching it by piecemealing parts from other Official ROMs.
6. Lastly, this phone was sold at a premium price and VZW's/HTC's support has been lackluster to be kind about it.
Note: I don't know the OP from Adam, but your experience, like mine, is anecdotal and not indicative of all others. VZW screwed the pooch on the roll-out and
HTC screwed the pooch on the releases of updates, support and finally, by rushing the damn thing out the door before it was ready.

sonicanatidae said:
3. Not everyone's phone was "perfect out of teh box". Some of us had to get replacements multiple times to get a *good one*.
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That's with any phone these days. I haven't had a single smartphone I haven't had to replace for one reason or another.
On a side note, the Tbolt isn't the only flagship phone with problems. The Galaxy Nexus has really bad call connectivity problems from what I hear, and that's supposed to be the MAIN function of a PHONE. lolz

All i will buy is htc. I know updates are slow to come. I also dont care. The newest isnt always the best, there are usually a fresh set of bugs to work out. That being said, the devs here and other sites give me enough variety to satisfy me. If you dont like the process, learn to code.
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Mr._Takahashi said:
I better get an ice cream sandwich after having to deal with your crap HTC. This device was full of flaws when I bought it. That was inexcusable after paying top dollar for it. Verizon (Ripoff Mobile, Inc.) was too uptight to do anything about it. I would not be surprised if all the official talk was nothing more than hot air in the end. At least developers are working on a version. I am so glad I finally had some time to get root permissions on this phone. Did you feel betrayed after buying your TBolt? To be honest, I would have bought a marked down model if I had of know ahead of time what was going to happen.
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I'm sure HTC is reading your post right now
If you care, go call them and say what you said directly as it will do far more good for you and for the community.
I moved onto a Nexus, but I still use my Thunderbolt for development testing apps I make. Not even the Nexus is perfect though as the internal antennas are not as powerful at picking up data. My db is usually 10-15db worse than the thunderbolt. However, I would not trade my Nexus for any other phone as I got tired of having to wait on HTC and Verizon for updates on the Thunderbolt.

i just lol at this thread.

Im an HTC fan. I got my tbolt on launch day and have never had an issue (not saying some havent) but I couldn't be happier.
Still have yet to find one phone on the market that has everything the tbolt has (not including dual core, which has not really impressed me) and still think it is a top 4g phone.
I would buy it all over again. We have received everything promised so far & it would be a nightmare for HTC to not give us ICS after they confirmed it...
I also have to say that Verizon did not screw up or delay the launch. There was never an official launch date given from them or HTC until the week before release, as is the norm with their releases. All other dates were made up by the internet and people.
HTC released about 6 updates to the phone between march and September, I think that is pretty good at keeping on top of it..

Jrocker23 said:
Im an HTC fan. I got my tbolt on launch day and have never had an issue (not saying some havent) but I couldn't be happier.
Still have yet to find one phone on the market that has everything the tbolt has (not including dual core, which has not really impressed me) and still think it is a top 4g phone.
I would buy it all over again. We have received everything promised so far & it would be a nightmare for HTC to not give us ICS after they confirmed it...
I also have to say that Verizon did not screw up or delay the launch. There was never an official launch date given from them or HTC until the week before release, as is the norm with their releases. All other dates were made up by the internet and people.
HTC released about 6 updates to the phone between march and September, I think that is pretty good at keeping on top of it..
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Well said. People are never satisfied. I guess they think HTC should put out updates as often as some ROMs get updated...
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I got the TB for $49 bucks new when I dropped T-Mobile. Rooted it the day I got it home and have never had a single problem with it that I cannot blame on bugs in the ROM or me OCing the crap out of it.
Everyones phone is gonna be better or worse than the next guy. Did we get screwed by Verizon??? Show me where in writing the promise a full ICS upgrade and you will see thousands of TB owners lining up to sue the piss off Verizon and HTC.
If you are gonna stay up on the newest devices, Hopefully you are not paying retail for the devices, Shop around and you will be amazed at what you can find.

I have a galaxy nexus just sitting on stand-by cause i've had no problems with my tbolt, besides the dev slowing down i really have no problems with my tbolt and has been my favorite phone. while it would be nice to get ICS soon im not tripping about it, my contract for the thunderbolt ends in december much wait and see what comes out by then.

why is anyone bothering to respond to this guy? He doesn't like his phone, he needs to quit whining about it and get rid of it. No amount of "I love my phone!" posts are going to change his mind. They just bump this useless thread back to the top. Yes, I know I also just bumped this thread.

l7777 said:
why is anyone bothering to respond to this guy? He doesn't like his phone, he needs to quit whining about it and get rid of it. No amount of "I love my phone!" posts are going to change his mind. They just bump this useless thread back to the top. Yes, I know I also just bumped this thread.
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Lol, you did.
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The two people I know with a nexus have had quite a few issues with their phones.. biggest problems being being signal and when leaving WiFi they don't get data until turning their data off and back on... Point is what ever phone you go to there will be something that bugs you about it and the update that fixes your problem will never come out fast enough.. be happy for what you have..
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i never get tired of forum drama, except that it makes me crave ham.

I haven't had a problem since day 1. I got home, rooted it and put liquid smooth on. I've always been one to have a new rom every week but this one's been so good with battery life and everything that I haven't even tried another one. I love this phone. On another note, my brother got the same phone and has had problems. Just like any other electronic item, you might get a dud.

I'm back :(

Well I ordered the Nexus and the original one had issuses with the screen so I returned it for a replacement. The second one had the same issue and when I tried to get it replaced (within 14 days of receiving the new phone) I was told that Samsung will only let me send it in for warranty work. Google said that wasn't acceptable since I hadn't gotten a working phone so it should be replaced. Then Google said that I can return it for a full refund and order a new one if I wanted to stay with the Nexus. But since I still had the G2X hanging out I decided to return the Nexus totally and and just stick with the G2x. Sad coming from a fully functioning ICS to this phone, but hey, I'll save $435.

Welcome back!
Not to rub it in, but my Nexus luckily was a good one from the beginning... I think.
However, I think you could do a lot more with a G2x and $435.

Yeah my second one wasn't really that bad, but for $435 I shouldn't have to deal with the screen being messed up. It also sucks that they aren't standing behind hte product. I definitely agree with doing more with the $435 though lol. All I really want is a phone that doesn't freeze so I can use the alarm.

You tried the new baseband and 2.3.4 update?
And sort of related: What were your Nexus screen issues?

Yeah i had to do the manual update since the ota didn't work (not sure if my root had anything to do with it) and so far so good. The screen was faded badly from right to left on the first phone and top to bottom on the second.

i was looking at buying either the gnex or the s3, but North America is only getting the dual core model, as i thought wind and TMobile were getting the quad core.
nfc was the main reason i wanted to switch. But I'm gonna wait till August to see lg roll out ics so cm9 can get tegra sources.
Btw, i love my phone. Don't know if im alone on this.
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Verizon SG3 worth keeping?

Given Verizon's encrypted bootloader and highly unlikely chance that the developer version will help in unlocking this phone, is it still worth keeping? I haven't even taken the SG3 out of the FedEx box because I don't want to be stuck with an unmoddable phone. I currently have a Thunderbolt running ThunderShed's ROM with IMO's kernel, and do not want to give up that experience just for a shinier phone. What are your thoughts and opinions?

I'd say it's worth keeping till the end of the 14-day return period, hopefully the bootloader will either be cracked by then (of course, this date varies depending on when you got your phone), or it will become apparent that it's never going to be cracked.

Jacquestrapp said:
I'd say it's worth keeping till the end of the 14-day return period, hopefully the bootloader will either be cracked by then (of course, this date varies depending on when you got your phone), or it will become apparent that it's never going to be cracked.
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I just received the phone yesterday, so I have until 7/25 - a good chunk of dev time. I just really hope this doesn't turn out to be a Moto-esque debacle where it's a massive kludge.

One thing that I've noticed with this phone vs others: it works extremely well out of the box. Not only that but we're going to get JB. If modding is that super important to you, either wait for the next Nexus (not guaranteed to be on VZW), or get the current one. You're not going to get a totally moddable phone anymore unless you get the Nexus. Or you can just switch carriers for an unlocked GS3.
For myself: I'm tired of crackflashing. I'm tired of running the latest ROM release and working through bugs. I'm sick of things not working and constantly wiping over and over again. I wanted a phone that just worked well out of the box, and the GS3 is perfect for that. Of course this is entirely subjective, and your needs are obviously more inline with Nexus devices. I'd say if you don't want to put the bootloader status to chance, wait for the next Nexus.

mustbepbs said:
One thing that I've noticed with this phone vs others: it works extremely well out of the box. Not only that but we're going to get JB. If modding is that super important to you, either wait for the next Nexus (not guaranteed to be on VZW), or get the current one. You're not going to get a totally moddable phone anymore unless you get the Nexus. Or you can just switch carriers for an unlocked GS3.
For myself: I'm tired of crackflashing. I'm tired of running the latest ROM release and working through bugs. I'm sick of things not working and constantly wiping over and over again. I wanted a phone that just worked well out of the box, and the GS3 is perfect for that. Of course this is entirely subjective, and your needs are obviously more inline with Nexus devices. I'd say if you don't want to put the bootloader status to chance, wait for the next Nexus.
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WOW!!! right on the head with that one, I feel the exact same way.
Usually I jump on any mod available but this time i like it just working.
I'm really just waiting on Jelly Bean now.

Depends if you can roll stock. I got at&t gs3. On task and ktoon AOPK and phone is far better than touch wiz. Even with a few minor bugs that will be worked out. On release #2 and its awsome
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Got my phone today and I gotta admit I love the phone Rooted with stock. I would say keep it. Remember the bootloader is locked but only for now.

Aquila76 said:
Given Verizon's encrypted bootloader and highly unlikely chance that the developer version will help in unlocking this phone, is it still worth keeping? I haven't even taken the SG3 out of the FedEx box because I don't want to be stuck with an unmoddable phone. I currently have a Thunderbolt running ThunderShed's ROM with IMO's kernel, and do not want to give up that experience just for a shinier phone. What are your thoughts and opinions?
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Its extremely early to write off our chances of getting past the bootloader. Even with the encrypted bootloader there has been massives amount of progress, and the phone just hit the stores TODAY. Calling it an unmoddable phone isn't accurate, as we already have the ability to run custom kernels and roms, just not an unsigned boot image. Patience is key, but if you dont have any, return it and get a GNEX with its one gig of ram and 5mp camera

In the news
Samsung will offer open bootloader for Verizon SGS3 phones - on their site.

bravomail said:
Samsung will offer open bootloader for Verizon SGS3 phones - on their site.
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Where is the source or proof of your claim

I was in the same boat op but after using mine I'm loving it. I came from a droid x running cm7gb and I miss things like hard button music control and other customization but the hardware makes up for it. I rooted using the new method and I love it even more. I'm confident that the devs will make progress. IMO the gap between stock and custom is a lot smaller on this phone. Once jb comes to it it will be insane even if it's a samsung version.

bravomail said:
Samsung will offer open bootloader for Verizon SGS3 phones - on their site.
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Yes, you can purchase a totally new phone for $600 if you're up for the expense. It's not a simple software download.

Thanks guys. I think I'm gonna go ahead and fire it up for the time being. Worst case, I can return it in a couple weeks if the stock ROM is too annoying. Best case, the bootloader gets cracked like my Thunderbolt. Most likely, I'll just stop worrying and love the bomb. It sounds like the OEMs have realized we don't want messy, bloated, slothy interfaces gumming up our phones.
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Well, just wanted to add a final note to this. I'm trying to return it and go back to my Thunderbolt. The radio is terrible compared to that phone, constantly dropping wifi and 3G/4G. The phone keeps locking to a black screen requiring a battery pull to restart it. Just not worth the aggravation.
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I plan on keeping the SG3 until the nexus comes out hopefully on Verizon.
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Aquila76 said:
Well, just wanted to add a final note to this. I'm trying to return it and go back to my Thunderbolt. The radio is terrible compared to that phone, constantly dropping wifi and 3G/4G. The phone keeps locking to a black screen requiring a battery pull to restart it. Just not worth the aggravation.
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Maybe you got a dud. I know (myself included) 8 people who already have these phones, plus many many on here and none have your issues. Yeah, your signal is reported differently than htc phones, but what gives there.

It's definitely worth keeping. I have came from iphones and various android devices such as the htc evo, motorola droid razr and the samsung galaxy nexus for verizon and I love the samsung s3. Out of all these devices even with the extended battery on them this battery/phone out performs the other phones.
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TechSavvy2 said:
Maybe you got a dud. I know (myself included) 8 people who already have these phones, plus many many on here and none have your issues. Yeah, your signal is reported differently than htc phones, but what gives there.
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Guess there's lots of duds out there then...

TechSavvy2 said:
Maybe you got a dud. I know (myself included) 8 people who already have these phones, plus many many on here and none have your issues. Yeah, your signal is reported differently than htc phones, but what gives there.
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Exactly, this phone is awesome

Hmmm, a couple of people mentioned that they are tired of modding and crackflashing? Why are you still here on xda? I buy android so I can feed my addiction of owning new phones without actually changing devices. I look forward to new mods and roms.
Oh ya, with all the new development, almost everything can be done with the so called locked bootloader. I'm running the new cm10 /jelly Bean as my daily driver. #screwyouverizon
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random screen lockups?

So a few months back I bought the gs3 from best buy after my thunderbolt pushed me over the edge and it made very hard contact with a brick wall. I went to best buy and paid cash for the gs3 despite I could of used an upgrade did not want to lose my unlimited data plan. When the note 2 came out my wife said I could buy it and she wanted my gs3. Well last week I ordered it and popped my sim in it and they transfered my old sim to her number and ever since the gs3 locks up 5-6 times a day. The screen will light and go off but is frozen. Have to battery pull. It literally started doing this the first time 15 minutes after Verizon reporgrammed her sim card. I called them today and told them to send me a new one. So now I am waiting. I just really hope this isn't a hardware issue as I don't want a refurb of something I paid 700 bucks for 4 months ago. Has anyone else had this problem. Yes I have wiped front to back several times. No dirty flashes. Never over clocked locks on every ROM I try and never did this once until reprogram of sim. Please someone tell me they have had a sim do this to make me feel a little better. The only good thing that can come out of the phone being bad is she wants the white one so I could have them send me it instead of another blue. Thanks in advance for some responses and input.

Know one? I guess I'm just gonna Odin and send it back. Piece of crap 700 bucks for a phone and in 3 months now I'm gonna have a refurbished pos.

Have you just odined to stock and see if it works right
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Have you just odined to stock and see if it works right
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Not yet. I'm waiting on a new sim card should be here today Verizon told me sometimes the sim cards fail after switching the numbers in them. Sounds like bs but i figured I'd wait for the sim so I didn't have to do unnecessary steps. If that doesn't work I'm going to Odin. If that doesn't work I guess I'll settle for a refurb. Seems like Samsung has some of the least reliable phones especially in the past but there the only phones I've had lockup issues with. I don't over clock. I try not to under volt or even change kernels from stock unless its packaged with ROM. But this phone even locked in aroma installer one time before I could even click next. Pretty aggrivating.
Its actually doing the exact same thing both of my fascinates did. And I odined them lots to try avoid getting refurbs. 6 months later the refurbs were back to doing the same thing. Battery pulls all day long. Should have stuck with HTC I'm beginning to think.

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Not yet. I'm waiting on a new sim card should be here today Verizon told me sometimes the sim cards fail after switching the numbers in them. Sounds like bs but i figured I'd wait for the sim so I didn't have to do unnecessary steps. If that doesn't work I'm going to Odin. If that doesn't work I guess I'll settle for a refurb. Seems like Samsung has some of the least reliable phones especially in the past but there the only phones I've had lockup issues with. I don't over clock. I try not to under volt or even change kernels from stock unless its packaged with ROM. But this phone even locked in aroma installer one time before I could even click next. Pretty aggrivating.
Its actually doing the exact same thing both of my fascinates did. And I odined them lots to try avoid getting refurbs. 6 months later the refurbs were back to doing the same thing. Battery pulls all day long. Should have stuck with HTC I'm beginning to think.
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I'm a long time HTC user myself, went thru the Eris, Inc1,Inc2,Inc4, Rezound, and HTC DNA. and at one time had a gnex before trading for my rezound, I always loved HTC, but I did not like the HTC DNA at all.
It would be tough decision for me though over the sg3 and HTC one X+
I had to switch back to VRLHE modem/RPM, and take out my sdcard to fix my horrid battery life, and idk if it was the modem/RPM or sd-card yet, but im leaving it as is for now lol.

Well installed new sim card as per Verizon and within 10 minutes screen locked up. Nice. Just odined back to 4.0.4 stock relocked boot loader thanks Verizon rep for dropping my brand new phone and f-ing it all up so now I get stuck with a refurb. Go jump off a cliff.

Question about 4.3 OTA

I'm looking into getting a Galaxy S3 (Verizon) this weekend from a cell phone repair store. I was reading around on Verizon forums and people are saying that 4.3 update has messed up their phones. Horrible battery life, overheating, app crashes, etc. Just wanted to see if this was still the case. The last post was back in early February.
Thanks.

TiceMan said:
I'm looking into getting a Galaxy S3 (Verizon) this weekend from a cell phone repair store. I was reading around on Verizon forums and people are saying that 4.3 update has messed up their phones. Horrible battery life, overheating, app crashes, etc. Just wanted to see if this was still the case. The last post was back in early February.
Thanks.
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Some people report problems, other people say the update is fine.
My guess is it's largely device specific or people just didn't let there phones settle in too long after the update before reporting problems. Probably a combination of both. Some phones handle software changes better than others.
The s3 is still a pretty powerful phone. The phone hasn't had any other updates following that update, so I doubt there were any bugs that didn't resolve themselves.
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Okay. I currently have an HTC One. However, the screen is cracked(still works fine can't even see it unless you turn the phone a certain way) and it has the camera problem. I contacted HTC and they want to charge me $200 to fix it. I like taking pics with my phone most of the time and I just can't do that with the htc. So I found a deal with the s3 and after reading those posts it got me a little scared.

TiceMan said:
Okay. I currently have an HTC One. However, the screen is cracked(still works fine can't even see it unless you turn the phone a certain way) and it has the camera problem. I contacted HTC and they want to charge me $200 to fix it. I like taking pics with my phone most of the time and I just can't do that with the htc. So I found a deal with the s3 and after reading those posts it got me a little scared.
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It doesn't cost that much to fix a screen. I've seen legit ones in malls and they advertise all over the place.
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