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Hi everyone,
I just arrived here from the world of Nook Color where for 20 months I have been rooting and installing CM roms. For the Nook that was essential since out of the box it was not an Android tablet.
I have had the tf700 for only 4 days, and I am delighted with it. Upgraded it to JB and have no complaints. My question is - what is the rationale for rooting and unlocking my new toy? Are there some issues with stock that need addressing, or is it just to satisfy the innate hacker that lives in all of us?
I'll do it if there is a point to it, but I am pretty happy with everything I see right now...
Derek
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derekr said:
Hi everyone,
I just arrived here from the world of Nook Color where for 20 months I have been rooting and installing CM roms. For the Nook that was essential since out of the box it was not an Android tablet.
I have had the tf700 for only 4 days, and I am delighted with it. Upgraded it to JB and have no complaints. My question is - what is the rationale for rooting and unlocking my new toy? Are there some issues with stock that need addressing, or is it just to satisfy the innate hacker that lives in all of us?
I'll do it if there is a point to it, but I am pretty happy with everything I see right now...
Derek
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium
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If you are happy, I think no reason to. I have mine rooted because I wanted to buy things from Japanese Market i.e. needed to use Market Enabler. Another benefit is Browser2ram. Though browser on JB is so much better, browser2ram can make even better. Having said this, the gain to me is not as noticeble as it was with ICS. So yes. not much reason to root unless you need to use root only application.
As far as unlocking, I think main reason is to use custom rom but I am personally satisfied with stock rom so have not unlocked personally.
My reasons:
1. Titanium Backup (ease of restore after factory reset)
2. Ad Away (Ads drain my battery)
3. Cerberus, device tracker (root users can make app a system app then remotely enable GPS)
4. Orbot, useful for encrypting traffic on unsecured wireless networks (Only with root can you enable "transparent proxy")
Just to name a few reasons. Not as many reasons as why I need root on my phone but ill edit if I remember more.
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My reasons:
1. Titanium Backup (ease of restore after factory reset)
2. Ad Away (Ads drain my battery)
3. Cerberus, device tracker (root users can make app a system app then remotely enable GPS)
4. Orbot, useful for encrypting traffic on unsecured wireless networks (Only with root can you enable "transparent proxy")
Just to name a few reasons. Not as many reasons as why I need root on my phone but ill edit if I remember more.
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1. Titanium Backup is a biggie for me. Couldn't do without it.
2. Total Commander needs root access to be able to manage the external memory cards. I use them for storing large files (movies, documentaries, etc.).
3. AdAway -- they not only waste bandwidth and battery, but they burn my retina away. (I'm so thankful for donation versions, so I can kick the ads out and support the dev in the meantime.)
4. BetterBatteryStats
Those are the few that are currently listed with SuperSU -- I do have browser2RAM installed, but to be honest I didn't notice any tangible improvement.
It's worth the root
Great post!
I'm happy with no root for now.
Lost it when the 4.1 update showed up.
I was running a few apps needing root, yet I don't really miss them...well except for b2ram.
Can't answer about unlocking...I don't want to do that until I buy another tablet.
I'll probably mess with rooting eventually when I get really bored or when quick and easy solution appears if ever.
For now like yourself the hacker in me is taking a break
Thats OK said:
For now like yourself the hacker in me is taking a break
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I believe the saying goes something like "the bow cannot always stand bent." ; )
My reasoning was that my stock experience was real glitchy (launcher crashes, freezing, random reboots, stuttering from bloat running in the background)... wanted a streamlined ROM and the ability to use AutoStarts. And TB and Ad Away are never bad things to have, either.
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at this point, as stated above, is about the apps you want to use. I suggest rooting since it doesn't void warranty. There are plenty of good apps that make use of it. Unlocking, that does void warranty. I would wait till your satisfied with the build of your Infinity In addition, wait till there is that must have rom or kernal. Since you mentioned Cyanogenmod, it hasn't officially been released yet. There is some work being done, but as usual with early builds, not everything is working yet.
I rooted mine so I can set up a chroot environment running a real GNU/Linux distro in order to do things like connecting to my home networked filesystems over a VPN service that I pay for in addition to accessing that machine for development purposes while travelling away from home using software that I trust and know has a good reputation within a wider, respected community of developers (openvpn, openssh-client, vim, etc etc).
I unlocked mine so that I can experiement with building Yocto-based filesystems which I eventually plan to flash to my device, and also so I can contribute testing/development effort to Debian's armhf architecture. Also, I want to learn what free AND copyleft touchscreen input translation layers are available that allow one to emulate traditional mouse pointers when using applications not originally intended for touchscreen interfaces.
I am not particularly happy with Android or the contortions that its developers push themselves through to restrict what can be done with it "out-of-the-box"; though I do recognize it as a preferred alternative to other systems that disrespect user freedoms such as iOS and WE. I also understand that there are arguments to be made in favor of Android's disrespect of user freedoms such as the need to protect consumer devices that are difficult to fix after hard bricking.
So yeah, I guess it boils down to is, I want to use the software I prefer and am familiar with as well as satisfying my desire to learn and contribute to the free software community.
help help!!!
pls i just go my tf700 2 days ago. with building number IML74K.US_epad-9.4.5.26-20120720,. i want to root and need jelly bean on it, but i dont know how to go about it. also i have no memory card yet, pls someone enlighten me on the steps:crying:
I was also fine with mine stock but I needed root to connect to my university's wifi which has a proxy, theres an app called proxyfier that enables system-wide proxy access, but it needs root... As some others said, if there's no specific reason why you'd want to root/unlock... don't.
My opinion is, UNLOCKING your device is something you need to think about. It's void your warranty and if you don't plan on playing with custom rom then don't do it. However, rooting is a great benefit to your device and you always can un root if you like.
buhohitr said:
My opinion is, UNLOCKING your device is something you need to think about. It's void your warranty and if you don't plan on playing with custom rom then don't do it. However, rooting is a great benefit to your device and you always can un root if you like.
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+1 Listen to this man - he knows what he is talking about. :fingers-crossed:
Recently, I contacted Asus about the issues that we have seen since the JB update. Since I support a number of these tablets for clients, I have had lots of backlash since the update. I emailed Tien and Gary about what advice they could provide when dealing with these units. I have included the last response that I got from him that addresses factory resets and cold booting, as well as a method he recommends for installing software after a reset:
"Hi Jordan,
There are people out there who believe doing multiple factory resets works, but I do not think so. Once a device has been reset, there is no user data left on there. Everything is back to factory. There should be no way data can be conflicting. Restoring a device that has nothing on it in the first place would not make a difference. However, multiple cold-boots do seem to help. Start with a factory reset and then as you reload your data back on (apps, media, e-mail, ect), cold-boot after something has been loaded on. For example, once and app or 2 has been reloaded, cold-boot the device before you load another app. This is the same for new app s being downloaded also. You want to keep the cache clear as much as possible.
I understand that a firmware update, or even news of a firmware update would be a lot easier, but again, I apologize as I do not have that kind of information. HQ releases the updates, and for the most part, they are pretty tight-lipped about them.
Sending in a bunch of units might not the best solution - you are right. I would try cold-boots u for now. JB is still new and there are definitely some things that need to be worked out with it on the TF700. I would give them some more time to deliver a solution.
Tien"
I have yet to try this process on my tab, maybe someone will beat me to it. Hope this information helps someone out there.
The issues that I reported are:
1. Graphics related issues that show as a flicker of the top 1/3rd (sometimes the entire) screen while in landscape, also a line of black pixels flashes for a moment on that same part of the screen. I have seen this in many apps at this point including the stock browser and in the XDA developers premium app. It seems unrelated to the application since I have seen reports of it on the desktop. (this is driving our users crazy- need a fix quickly!)
2. Backspace key is not respected in many applications if the asus keyboard is enabled. There are lots of examples on xda but this worked in ICS and now, does not.
3. The auto screen dimmer does not work properly and will dim, and not increase brightness when tapped. It also seems much more distracting and does not dim as gracefully as before(I know it can be disabled).
4. When docked, a Bluetooth keyboard that is paired with the device, will not function. A usb keyboard will work, but it is odd that Bluetooth keyboards will allow no input at all while docked.
5. Crash of the device with a white screen- have seen this 3 times.
6. Wifi direct removal is a major disappointment as many users had a need for this functionality.
This is good information, thanks. The only real change I have witness that's a problem is Google navigation freezing or rebooting the TF700 during trips longer than a few minutes. Intermittent problem but it has happened on three separate trips.
I'm getting the occasional black lit screen crash/freeze
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6. Wifi direct removal is a major disappointment as many users had a need for this functionality.
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Not sure where you are seeing this. Wifi Direct was not removed with JB. In fact, I noticed it performs much better.
The option for sending a file via WiFi direct is avialable under the share options. If you are looking for it directly under the settings menu, it was just moved to a different place (not an ASUS thing.....it was moved by Google). Go under Settings -> Wifi and click on the menu button to access it (3 dots in the lower right hand corner).
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Not sure where you are seeing this. Wifi Direct was not removed with JB. In fact, I noticed it performs much better.
The option for sending a file via WiFi direct is avialable under the share options. If you are looking for it directly under the settings menu, it was just moved to a different place (not an ASUS thing.....it was moved by Google). Go under Settings -> Wifi and click on the menu button to access it (3 dots in the lower right hand corner).
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Thanks for that! I had a couple of users who complained that it was not there. I emailed them to let them know it how to access it, they appreciate it.
--Would have been nice if Tien had mentioned it-- ya think?
Never even tried that feature and assumed it was removed since Asus listed it as a feature that would be removed with the update. I get it now.... they removed their custom support of it in favor of the stock android setup.
Kind of funny that an update announcement was posted today, I have been back and forth with them quite a bit in the last couple of weeks and the last email I sent to Tien and Gary said this:
"Unless you have a newer firmware with some of these issues resolved, I am not
sure how offering to send them to you will do any good....
Please let Gary know that this is effecting companies that have purchased over 50 of
these tablets at a time. We need resolution!"
Maybe I got his attention. I have to support these tablets, and so does Asus, they are an international company that is trying desperately to be THE go to hardware partner for cutting edge tech. Partnerships with the big G and M$ are evidence of that. I hope they realize that this is a defining year for them, either they will get their support in order or they will fold under the pressure of the added user base.
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The issues that I reported are:
1. Graphics related issues that show as a flicker of the top 1/3rd (sometimes the entire) screen while in landscape, also a line of black pixels flashes for a moment on that same part of the screen. I have seen this in many apps at this point including the stock browser and in the XDA developers premium app. It seems unrelated to the application since I have seen reports of it on the desktop. (this is driving our users crazy- need a fix quickly!)
2. Backspace key is not respected in many applications if the asus keyboard is enabled. There are lots of examples on xda but this worked in ICS and now, does not.
3. The auto screen dimmer does not work properly and will dim, and not increase brightness when tapped. It also seems much more distracting and does not dim as gracefully as before(I know it can be disabled).
4. When docked, a Bluetooth keyboard that is paired with the device, will not function. A usb keyboard will work, but it is odd that Bluetooth keyboards will allow no input at all while docked.
5. Crash of the device with a white screen- have seen this 3 times.
6. Wifi direct removal is a major disappointment as many users had a need for this functionality.
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On top of these i have:
1. Random reboots,
2. Wifi drops out and fails to reconnect or slows down to be unusable state
Well if looks like some of the issues have been resolved but some still remain. Has anyone had time to try the method tien suggested in my op? Unfortunately i have not gotten time.
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jordanmw said:
Well if looks like some of the issues have been resolved but some still remain. Has anyone had time to try the method tien suggested in my op? Unfortunately i have not gotten time.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium
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I also don't have the time to try, but I have my own share of doubt regarding these suggestion. Cold-booting my device after loading one or 2 apps is just too much of a hassle and I doubt that it provides any practical benefit. My friend's Nexus 7 haven't been turned off for weeks and I don't see any slow down or problems. The same thing can be said about my phone as well. I know they are different devices, but I don't think Google designs Android in such a way that you need to restart your device every time you install a new app.
Overall, I believe all of the problems above can only be fixed with OTA updates, and no amount of cold-boot or factory reset can fix it. I might be wrong, but it is just my opinion.
Anyway, thanks for sharing. Maybe someone will benefit from this discussion.
Since nobody has tried this method, I guess I will give it a shot today. Of course I have major doubts that this will actually work but if Tien said that there is some benefit, I have to at least try it. He is one of the only reps at asus that has ever given us any real help with the TF series.
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I also don't have the time to try, but I have my own share of doubt regarding these suggestion. Cold-booting my device after loading one or 2 apps is just too much of a hassle and I doubt that it provides any practical benefit. My friend's Nexus 7 haven't been turned off for weeks and I don't see any slow down or problems. The same thing can be said about my phone as well. I know they are different devices, but I don't think Google designs Android in such a way that you need to restart your device every time you install a new app.
Overall, I believe all of the problems above can only be fixed with OTA updates, and no amount of cold-boot or factory reset can fix it. I might be wrong, but it is just my opinion.
Anyway, thanks for sharing. Maybe someone will benefit from this discussion.
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Seriously? You think cold booting is a hassle? My friend it takes an extra second of hold the power down button when turning your tablet on. Come on stop lazy. Also if the op isn't blowing smoke, then these suggestions are directly from asus, so why would they lie? I personally have seen a huge benefit from cold booting after a couple of app installations. I do it anyways because i do like to keep my cache clear.
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pierrekid said:
Seriously? You think cold booting is a hassle? My friend it takes an extra second of hold the power down button when turning your tablet on. Come on stop lazy.
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If a computer requires regular cold booting to work properly, it is defective. A Linux-based system should be able to reach uptimes measured in years (theoretically, if no updates were required).
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Seriously? You think cold booting is a hassle? My friend it takes an extra second of hold the power down button when turning your tablet on. Come on stop lazy. Also if the op isn't blowing smoke, then these suggestions are directly from asus, so why would they lie? I personally have seen a huge benefit from cold booting after a couple of app installations. I do it anyways because i do like to keep my cache clear.
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Seriously? If you buy this expensive gadget you shouldn't be doing extra hussle like cold booting after installing an app or two. It should work without. This is the only Android device with this kind of problems. Not sure if this is some kind of memory leak or what is going on. Still its interesting that for example on Galaxy S 3 even beta roms work better than these official ones from Asus.
Asus designs beautiful units, then manufactures them with horrible QC and finally don't seem to know much about software optimizing.
Finally got around to trying this process.... Maybe I installed too many apps at one time since after the first few installs, i was doing more than 2 in some cases. No difference doing this method over factory reset. I am going to contact them again today with feedback from the process and latest update.
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jordanmw said:
Finally got around to trying this process.... Maybe I installed too many apps at one time since after the first few installs, i was doing more than 2 in some cases. No difference doing this method over factory reset. I am going to contact them again today with feedback from the process and latest update.
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I can't say that I'm surprised, but I really appreciate your effort. Thanks for sharing.
To be honest the response seemed like a "SYA" response that was so far fetched and so much hassle you wouldn't bother to try it and they could push your issues aside.
I find it funny that they claim "Jellybean is still new..." when it has been out in the wild since around July or earlier. That seems like plenty of time to get the software optimized for your flagship device(s). If you want my honest opinion, the TF700 was placed on the back burner a little bit because of the Nexus 7 that Asus and Google partnered up for. That took priority but I do find it odd that the hardware in the Nexus 7 almost mirrors the TF700, yet the Nexus 7 does not exhibit the same odd behavior or issues we are experiencing (some of us anyway) on the TF700.
I must be one of the blessed ones because I'm not experiencing all the issues that are mentioned here. I had the hardware issue of screen flex and bent adapter port, but other than that and getting a replacement I'm pleased. I actually considered getting a galaxy note 10.1, but just knew I wouldn't be satisfied with the display. The screen is the major aspect of a tablet and you really can't find a replacement at this time for the full HD of the tf 700. I have noticed that my pad is running really well after the last update and I'm really happy I didn't go with the note. I'm totally stock and not rooted. I may root one day if needed and there is a method that doesn't void the warranty by using the bootloader (if there is please let me know...I'd love to use titanium backup with root).
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I upgraded to JB and I can not connect to my galaxy s2 wifi hotspot. Any idea of solution..?
Thanks for your answers.
KaliS-Pugilist said:
I must be one of the blessed ones because I'm not experiencing all the issues that are mentioned here. I had the hardware issue of screen flex and bent adapter port, but other than that and getting a replacement I'm pleased. I actually considered getting a galaxy note 10.1, but just knew I wouldn't be satisfied with the display. The screen is the major aspect of a tablet and you really can't find a replacement at this time for the full HD of the tf 700. I have noticed that my pad is running really well after the last update and I'm really happy I didn't go with the note. I'm totally stock and not rooted. I may root one day if needed and there is a method that doesn't void the warranty by using the bootloader (if there is please let me know...I'd love to use titanium backup with root).
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Root does not require you to unlock the boot loader.
KaliS-Pugilist said:
I'm totally stock and not rooted. I may root one day if needed and there is a method that doesn't void the warranty by using the bootloader (if there is please let me know...I'd love to use titanium backup with root).
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ICS can be rooted easily even with the locked bootloader. If you are already on JB, follow the guide to downgrade to ICS 9.x.x.30, root using the debugfs method, use OTA Rootkeeper, and then apply the OTA to JB.
All,
I have drafted this post hoping after reading that someone will have some concrete resolve to improving the performance of my tablet.
Background: I purchased two Asus TF300T's for my wife and I at Christmas looking to improving our mobility around the home and externally without lagging a lap top. I read plenty of reviews over a period of 1-2 years and settled on the Asus. Since Christmas we have had one firmware update. We are on Android version 4.1.1, Build# 10.4.2.18.
Current: We are highly disappointed with its ability to swiftly move through websites. I have taken off java script then rechecked it and the performance is very inconsistent at best to include on my home wifi. Downloading pdf files from some sights is nearly impossible. I can't find how to down load apps and other documents to my SD Card. The tablet memory is constantly at least 50% occupied with stuff i am not aware of. the best thing i can use this for is my email and a few other simple apps. No crashes just extremely poor performance. If I want to view an item on You tube, man it takes forever or it never loads.
At this point I am somewhat in remorse beliving I would have been better off buying cheap laptops.
Can anyone of experience please assist with helping me maximize the tablets and see the power and functionality I have read about?
I am not a software developer and have read about rooting yet I am not clear on how and what to do yet i do understands it voids your warranty.
thanks for your assistance,
Frustrated Asus TF300 users
To unlock your tablets potential, I highly recommend rooting and installing a stock based or custom ROM. I would also install a custom kernel. It will void your warranty but in my opinion, it was well worth it. Rooting only voids the software, not the hardware.
Here is the video I watched in order to learn how to unlock and flash a recovery using Fastboot. This video shows you how to flash CWM recovery. Many have had issues with CWM, including me, so I flashed TWRP recovery instead. I just substituted the TWRP info in place of CWM recovery. The second link I provide will be for TWRP. Also, this video shows you how to root your tablet. No sense in doing that if you are going to flash a rooted ROM. There are quite a few rooted stock based and custom ROMs available to us. I would go ahead and read up on them and choose one before starting the process.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSTf6ZY4NGo
TWRP info for the TF300T:
http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/97
This is a link to the ROM I'm running.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971806
It also has a modified kernel in the 3rd post down under extras which will allow the tablet to be overclocked to 1.7GHz.. The only issue with it is GPS. It has to be reactivated after each boot if you need to use it. As I mentioned above, there are quite a few ROMs available to us. I would just read through and choose the one that's right for you.
I also highly recommend reading this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697227&highlight=cwm+for+tf300+ics
Thanks, I just got this tablet for my son
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same poor performance
Hi, i too feel my Tf300 is very poorly performing. Glitches, stutters and apps closing down quite often. This is on 4.1.1 in UK and I have made no changes other than android updates.
I would love to have this thing run more smoothly like my GNex which is only dual core but cant see it happening.
Most of all i want to get a controller working to play Dead Trigger and ShadowGun.
Most tutorials for controllers say must be rooted. I would therefore like to root the TF300.
I have looked at doing it a few time but have seen warnings about not rooting if you have a particular version.
Is there a list or guide where i may look up the specifics of my TF300 and then know which root method to use for the best?
I dont have my TF300 handy but know its on 4.1.1 at minute and is a UK tablet.
any help appreciated.
I think this guide is useful and I may use it when the time comes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2041627
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So do I gotta unlock/root?
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I think this guide is useful and I may use it when the time comes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2041627
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So do i have to root if i want a controller working with the likes of dead trigger and shadow gun?
Also and when a new version JB or even key lime comes along will i be able to get the official version back on to tablet?
It should be possible to get the official version back on although I'm not sure on how to do that other than doing a full backup in CWM/TWRP before changing ROMs.
It depends what controller you want to connect to your device. I can connect an Xbox wireless controller to my tablet and I'm not rooted. I'm not sure on Dualshock3 controllers but I think it might be possible without root but I don't know
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It should be possible to get the official version back on although I'm not sure on how to do that other than doing a full backup in CWM/TWRP before changing ROMs.
It depends what controller you want to connect to your device. I can connect an Xbox wireless controller to my tablet and I'm not rooted. I'm not sure on Dualshock3 controllers but I think it might be possible without root but I don't know
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its the xbox360 wireless i want to connect.
I bought the usb dongle, plug it into the dock and it does some basic functions but does not work in dead trigger or shadowgun correctly.
I try to re assign functions in game but in dead trigger for example the view just spins around constantly.
what games have you played successfully with the xbox360 controller?
I had the same problem as you. I think the only game I've successfully played is Shadowgun Deadzones
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I had the same problem as you. I think the only game I've successfully played is Shadowgun Deadzones
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thats strange as when i try shadowgun i cant get the left joystick to rotate the correct way making it unplayable.
did you do anything special?
I had the same problem as you on the original shadowgun but on the multiplayer version (Deadzones), i did manage to get it to work. I don't think this can be fixed by rooting or something so it might be worth contacting MadFinger with regards to the problems of using a wireless Xbox 360 controller on their games
asus is trash some people just get fooled by the brand
I think Shadowgun has been updated as it now works with controller great.
The downside now is that it crashes every 10 minutes.
Asus as a brand I am unsure about to be honest.
I originally ordered the TF700 through Amazon. I sent it back along with its replacement due to poor build quality. The screen was not fixed down evenly and creaked.
I decided not to chance the TF700 again and bought the TF300 from Argos, I had to change this three times before I got one that worked or had not manufacturing problems.
Now the tablet runs but for a quad core its glitchy as hell.
Simple internet browsing always comes up with a crash, most games are glitchy and crash very often.
might check to see what i can get for it second had as its mint with box and all original stuff and only 2 months old.
£400 with dock did see a bargain.
I am thinking that perhaps all android tablets run equally as bad?
i bought this coz i am always sitting browsing internet, playing odd game on my Gnex, i know find that i would rather pick up my phone as the experience is so much smother and glitch free than the tablet. That makes it kinda redundant.
Every android tablet is not as bad as the transformer. The transformer line of tablets have slow I/O issues. Installing a custom ROM should improve the experience
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Thanks yet more questions
Thanks for your assistance. I know I successfully rooted my tablet as it tells me that in the upper right hand corner. I used CMW instead of TWRP yet really know issues with that yet.
I am unable to find the system files via es file manager and I am unable to find the root - sign or the build.prop files which i believe I am supposed to have. I have loaded super user yet i am not sure the purpose of that download as i never see it used unless it is a system app.
I don't have a ROM like, Clean Rom yet and truly need further assistanc to set up my system. As you can tell I am not a developer yet I experienced a lot of frustration with slow performance.
What I would like to have is the ability to turn up the clock speed, not have the system continually looking for wifi and to know what files i can delete off my system and which ones I shouldn't. If I could have the system just open up straight to my system opposed to the Asus opening load that would be great as well.
I have a quite abit to load yet if I could get a good step by step instructions of what to load I believe I can follow it as I did get the system rooted. Looking for a patient developer to work me through some customization of my Asus TF300T.
wetbiker7 said:
To unlock your tablets potential, I highly recommend rooting and installing a stock based or custom ROM. I would also install a custom kernel. It will void your warranty but in my opinion, it was well worth it. Rooting only voids the software, not the hardware.
Here is the video I watched in order to learn how to unlock and flash a recovery using Fastboot. This video shows you how to flash CWM recovery. Many have had issues with CWM, including me, so I flashed TWRP recovery instead. I just substituted the TWRP info in place of CWM recovery. The second link I provide will be for TWRP. Also, this video shows you how to root your tablet. No sense in doing that if you are going to flash a rooted ROM. There are quite a few rooted stock based and custom ROMs available to us. I would go ahead and read up on them and choose one before starting the process.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSTf6ZY4NGo
TWRP info for the TF300T:
http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/97
This is a link to the ROM I'm running.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971806
It also has a modified kernel in the 3rd post down under extras which will allow the tablet to be overclocked to 1.7GHz.. The only issue with it is GPS. It has to be reactivated after each boot if you need to use it. As I mentioned above, there are quite a few ROMs available to us. I would just read through and choose the one that's right for you.
I also highly recommend reading this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697227&highlight=cwm+for+tf300+ics
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Have you looked at the guides on this forum? They seem to be very good and easy to follow. Also, in ES file explorer, you must go into settings and then into root settings and enable things from there
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UndisputedGuy said:
Have you looked at the guides on this forum? They seem to be very good and easy to follow. Also, in ES file explorer, you must go into settings and then into root settings and enable things from there
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Thanks for the response. I found Root Settings and selected the Root option second from the top. I tried to select rooted explorer but it was grayed out so I selected the next rooted option.
Was that correct?
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maax555 said:
thats strange as when i try shadowgun i cant get the left joystick to rotate the correct way making it unplayable.
did you do anything special?
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I installed TF300T-No_SD_notification_v1.0 and now I get a constant banner "Unfortunately, System UI has stopped" with an "ok" selection. Has anyone experienced that when loading this software that is used to get rid of the SD notification icon? If so, how do I fix.
For those who have sent me links and words of wisdom as I voiced some frustration due to ignorance thanks. I found XDA University and learned how to flash ROM and Kernels. I was able to finally understand how to load the zip files from my computer onto the tablet and then access them through Clockmod. It was easy. Unfortunately I have this bug to fix yet after that I believe if I can find the right ROMs, Kernels and apps to enhance my tablet experience I will be happy.
Any idea ho to fix the banner described above?
teemo32 said:
Thanks for the response. I found Root Settings and selected the Root option second from the top. I tried to select rooted explorer but it was grayed out so I selected the next rooted option.
Was that correct?
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You should be able to see other files and folders now when you press back. Do you have superuser installed? That option shouldn't be greeted greyed out if you are indeed rooted
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Hey guys,
I'm just about to receive my Infinity and have been reading through the posts here. I've read quite a few horror stories about people bricking their tablets, not being able to power it up, etc etc.
I'm not sure what version of Android it'll be running when I get it so I'd like to know what are the things I should really be avoiding when using the lock tool, flashing the boot loader and the rom (cromix :good: )?
From the impression I've got, the device seems very fickle/easy to brick/break. Am I wrong in thinking that?
The TF700 users here seem like a helpful bunch so hopefully I could get a few pointers on things NOT to do....
Cheers!
jonlad1 said:
Hey guys,
I'm just about to receive my Infinity and have been reading through the posts here. I've read quite a few horror stories about people bricking their tablets, not being able to power it up, etc etc.
I'm not sure what version of Android it'll be running when I get it so I'd like to know what are the things I should really be avoiding when using the lock tool, flashing the boot loader and the rom (cromix :good: )?
From the impression I've got, the device seems very fickle/easy to brick/break. Am I wrong in thinking that?
The TF700 users here seem like a helpful bunch so hopefully I could get a few pointers on things NOT to do....
Cheers!
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Hi, and welcome to the community!
First things first: check the unit thoroughly for the known issues (screen bleed, loose screen bonding, etc. Several threads in here concerning the most frequent issues.
1) If you happen to get a pre-.30 firmware (which is unlikely at this point in time), install Nvflash first and pull the backups. That might save you form not only severe headaches but a pretty stack of dollars too, if the excrement hits the ventilator.
2) Try and see if the unlock tool works. In a relatively large percentage of 700s, it doesn't. That would solve your problem instantly. (You can then proceed to update to the latest stock ROM, but no custom ROM'in' for you then. That << smiley is actually very mean, because that would be some major suck.)
3) Whatever you do, ONLY use the most recent versions of whatever recovery has your preference. Also update the bootloader to the version your ROM of choice requires!
4) Unless you have extensive experience with flashing and ROMs in general, it might be prudent to pick a stock-based ROM (i.e. CROMI-X). If you comfortable with the odd bug here and there, you might try an AOSP/AOKP/CM-based ROM and see if they fit your bill.
CROMI-X has a great OP with all the updates to bootloader and such you'll need.
5) Don't do anything if you're not sure when starting out. The 700 is not particularly easy to brick, but it is relatively hard to fix in some cases that on other devices (Samsung's comes to mind) would just mean reflashing some stuff (in Odin/Heimdall).
Have fun!
Marty
MartyHulskemper said:
Hi, and welcome to the community!
2) Try and see if the unlock tool works. In a relatively large percentage of 700s, it doesn't. That would solve your problem instantly. (You can then proceed to update to the latest stock ROM, but no custom ROM'in' for you then. That << smiley is actually very mean, because that would be some major suck.)
Marty
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Hey mate,
Thanks for the info
With the unlock tool, has anyone reported any issues from trying to use it? If it doesnt work, will it just say it didnt work? I cant brick from just using the tool can I?
Cheers!
jonlad1 said:
Hey mate,
Thanks for the info
With the unlock tool, has anyone reported any issues from trying to use it? If it doesnt work, will it just say it didnt work? I cant brick from just using the tool can I?
Cheers!
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If it doesn't work it just gives some error message. I haven't heard of anyone bricking because the unlock tool failed, so you should be safe there. As far as I'm aware the only issue you'll have from the unlock tool not working is just the fact that you're not going to be unlocked lol.
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jonlad1 said:
Hey guys,
I'm just about to receive my Infinity and have been reading through the posts here. I've read quite a few horror stories about people bricking their tablets, not being able to power it up, etc etc.
I'm not sure what version of Android it'll be running when I get it so I'd like to know what are the things I should really be avoiding when using the lock tool, flashing the boot loader and the rom (cromix :good: )?
From the impression I've got, the device seems very fickle/easy to brick/break. Am I wrong in thinking that?
The TF700 users here seem like a helpful bunch so hopefully I could get a few pointers on things NOT to do....
Cheers!
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I'm with Martin on this:
Until you are sure that your tab is not a lemon with major hardware issues I would not unlock it.
You can root it and start playing around with some more advanced settings in the meantime. Wouldn't it really suck if you unlocked and a day or week later the digitizer would go bad? Asus could say: Sorry, pal - you're unlocked, you're out of warranty.
They have repaired even unlocked devices under warranty, but you can't count on it. And in some cases the repaired tablet came back with a permanently locked bootloader....
So give it a few weeks, in the meantime start reading the relevant thread of your favorite custom ROM(s) to get a feel for them, and familiarize yourself with the process and lingo of flashing.
You could start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204100
I feel a little sheepish since we basically hijacked the original thread, but since the original topic is pretty much outdated and not active anymore, I guess it is ok. I kinda walked a user through the whole process of rooting/flashing a custom rom etc.
Start with post #191. In #193 I wrote a step-by-step guide which HeartWare42 fleshed out even more in post #220.
Note anything you don't understand and Google it.
Read 3 times, ask twice, flash once )
berndblb said:
I'm with Martin on this:
Until you are sure that your tab is not a lemon with major hardware issues I would not unlock it.
You can root it and start playing around with some more advanced settings in the meantime. Wouldn't it really suck if you unlocked and a day or week later the digitizer would go bad? Asus could say: Sorry, pal - you're unlocked, you're out of warranty.
They have repaired even unlocked devices under warranty, but you can't count on it. And in some cases the repaired tablet came back with a permanently locked bootloader....
So give it a few weeks, in the meantime start reading the relevant thread of your favorite custom ROM(s) to get a feel for them, and familiarize yourself with the process and lingo of flashing.
You could start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204100
I feel a little sheepish since we basically hijacked the original thread, but since the original topic is pretty much outdated and not active anymore, I guess it is ok. I kinda walked a user through the whole process of rooting/flashing a custom rom etc.
Start with post #191. In #193 I wrote a step-by-step guide which HeartWare42 fleshed out even more in post #220.
Note anything you don't understand and Google it.
Read 3 times, ask twice, flash once )
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Thanks for the info guys, I'll check the hardware first!
jonlad1 said:
Hey guys,
I'm just about to receive my Infinity and have been reading through the posts here. I've read quite a few horror stories about people bricking their tablets, not being able to power it up, etc etc.
I'm not sure what version of Android it'll be running when I get it so I'd like to know what are the things I should really be avoiding when using the lock tool, flashing the boot loader and the rom (cromix :good: )?
From the impression I've got, the device seems very fickle/easy to brick/break. Am I wrong in thinking that?
The TF700 users here seem like a helpful bunch so hopefully I could get a few pointers on things NOT to do....
Cheers!
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Hi there,
When I had bought my tf700 I did'nt have a clue what custom rom is.
I was totally naive and ignorant as to Android technology.
I was disappointed with my TF700 performance and lived with it for a couple of months.
Afterwards, I searched the internet until I have found this marvellous forum (which attracts OCDs like the fire attracts moth).
I read and read and read and read, and read more and asked the fine users of this fine forum if I got it all right,
and then one springy night on the end of March 2013, something happened.
A magic...
"I took the red pill" , unlocked my TF700, pushed TWRP and flashed CROMI.
Everything went super.
Ever since then I follow Sbdags CROMI-X thread and keep update my firmware.
Just to remind you - I am not a Computer wizard, my occupation has got almost nothing to do with electronics and I am not a kid (actually I am 37 with many obligations like family and work - so my spare time is scarce).
And here I am - master of my TF700!
So - everything is possible!
And if you follow instructions and restrict yourself to the right method - you can be rest assured you won't brick your device.
Actually It's like cooking: you should find a good recipe and act accordingly.
Cheers
So I finally got it delivered today
It looks good, no damage, screen bleed that i can see. Screen seems fine.
Its running JRO3C.US_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228
JB 4.1.1
I'm not really sure where to go from here - should I wait a few days or just unlock and put CROMI-X on now?
Speed of the system isnt bad, transitions seem a bit slow, havent really installed a bunch of apps yet...
jonlad1 said:
So I finally got it delivered today
It looks good, no damage, screen bleed that i can see. Screen seems fine.
Its running JRO3C.US_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228
JB 4.1.1
I'm not really sure where to go from here - should I wait a few days or just unlock and put CROMI-X on now?
Speed of the system isnt bad, transitions seem a bit slow, havent really installed a bunch of apps yet...
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You are itching to do it, right?
I can tell, you can hardly wait....
Well, the rational next step would be to wait a week, or two, or however long you can stand it, and then unlock etc.
But where's the fun in rational, right?
Well, while you decide - why not upgrade it to JB 4.2.1? Saves you a bootloader flash and clean install later....
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berndblb said:
You are itching to do it, right?
I can tell, you can hardly wait....
Well, the rational next step would be to wait a week, or two, or however long you can stand it, and then unlock etc.
But where's the fun in rational, right?
Well, while you decide - why not upgrade it to JB 4.2.1? Saves you a bootloader flash and clean install later....
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Is 4.2.1 worth the update? I read that 4.2.1 caused a few issues for some people....
I probably will just flash it It feels like it should run quicker, take Maps for example. seems REALLY laggy but on my N7 it was fine?
jonlad1 said:
Is 4.2.1 worth the update? I read that 4.2.1 caused a few issues for some people....
I probably will just flash it It feels like it should run quicker, take Maps for example. seems REALLY laggy but on my N7 it was fine?
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JB 4.2 was better for most people, others had issues with Bluetooth tethering and some other stuff...
The reason I recommend you upgrade to stock 4.2 is mainly that then you automatically would have the correct bootloader on our tablet.
For Cromi-X you need the 4.2 bootloader. If you are on 4.1 you have to flash it before you flash Cromi-X, if you are already on 4.2 you're good to go. One less thing that could go wrong....
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berndblb said:
JB 4.2 was better for most people, others had issues with Bluetooth tethering and some other stuff...
The reason I recommend you upgrade to stock 4.2 is mainly that then you automatically would have the correct bootloader on our tablet.
For Cromi-X you need the 4.2 bootloader. If you are on 4.1 you have to flash it before you flash Cromi-X, if you are already on 4.2 you're good to go. One less thing that could go wrong....
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That makes sense, I'll get that updated tonight, cheers
Does CROMIx improve the laggy transitions/Maps/Browser?
jonlad1 said:
That makes sense, I'll get that updated tonight, cheers
Does CROMIx improve the laggy transitions/Maps/Browser?
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It improves e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g
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berndblb said:
It improves e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g
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SOLD!
jonlad1 said:
SOLD!
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You will not be disappointed. Welcome to the OCFD corner.
Now that I think of it: http://hope4ocd.com/checklist.php is missing the "Needing the have the latest and greatest x.x.xxxxx version of your ROM", or "Needing to flash at least 5 ROMs a week". Can we petition that?
Hmm, I just tried to update via OTA and it said my system is up to date? I'm on 4.1.1?
EDIT - ok, updated manually. Trying to use the unlock tool but getting "Unkown Error. This may be a connection issue" - is that what'll happen if it's not gonna work for me?
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You could have got the Nook HD+ 32GB for $180 and dead easy to root and put CM 10.1 or Carbon on it and no concern of bricking it. Stock 2.1 on the HD+ is barely ok (very barely), but CM 10.1 rocks.
A little smaller tablet, but same great display resolution. I use this more than my iPad 4 now, which is both a compliment to the HD+ and an insult to how much I paid for the iPad 4.
jonlad1 said:
Hmm, I just tried to update via OTA and it said my system is up to date? I'm on 4.1.1?
EDIT - ok, updated manually. Trying to use the unlock tool but getting "Unkown Error. This may be a connection issue" - is that what'll happen if it's not gonna work for me?
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Personally, when I had this problem, I just tried to run the app every day for a week oe so and it eventually works, but others have had to use tricks. Use the search for unlock, you will find several ideas about fixing it.
After getting fed up with my Infinity, I finally called ASUS. They gave me an RMA number. Is it worth it to send it in since I have to pay to ship it?
The problem I have is the keyboard lags so bad most of the time. It will not register anything for 5 seconds, then try and insert all the letters you typed at once. The browser also closes itself down randomly without an error box. In general it's just extremely slow. Made more apparent by the fact that I have a Galaxy Note II that I use every day. It's frustrating to use a $500 tablet that is so much slower.
I'm afraid it's just the nature of the tablet, though, and I'm wasting money shipping it. I've done several factory resets and cold boots. Lags even when typing on the setup screen after a reset. I'm not rooted, everything is stock.
Should I mail it off?
Thanks.
It is doubtful that the RMA will make the tablet any faster. The symptoms you describe are unfortunately very typical for the TF700 if not optimized. The bottleneck is very slow I/O performance and nothing they could do at the repair center will fix that.
There are a number of ways to speed it up a little. For browsing you could try the Boat browser, it's much faster than stock.
You can try the app Greenify. It hibernates unseen background services and helps managing what's running at any given time.
If you are willing to root, you can try SD Booster, implement the Browser2RAM script, install Titanium Backup and get rid of or freeze apps and services you don't use.
But the real difference makes to unlock the tablet and flash a custom ROM. I am running CROMi-X and now the TF700 runs like you would expect from a $500 tablet.
If you decide to sell it, be quick about it. A new model is due this fall.
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My biggest concern is that I do have an internal hardware problem. If I root and install some kind of custom rom but it doesn't fix the issue, I won't be able to send it to ASUS. I do have a 2 year Square trade warranty though I don't know if it will be covered by them if rooted.
rlg5150 said:
My biggest concern is that I do have an internal hardware problem. If I root and install some kind of custom rom but it doesn't fix the issue, I won't be able to send it to ASUS. I do have a 2 year Square trade warranty though I don't know if it will be covered by them if rooted.
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Well, then send it in and let Asus check it out. Since you got the RMA - better safe than sorry. But with the Squaretrade warranty you're all covered anyway. They don't care if you root and unlock AFASIK.
Check that on the forums, but I'm pretty sure Squaretrade has you covered no matter what you do software-wise.
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I doubt that you have a hardware problem. What you are describing is what many people complain about on the stock experience. Rooting may help as you can use B2R but realistically the only way to solve your issues is to unlock and install a custom rom.