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Just wanted everyone to be aware that in conjuction with the GPS firmware issue, and the wifi driver problem, the compass also does not work correctly.
Download Google skymap from the market and you can see how bad it is.
What the hell is up with Samsung's QC? Do they not test these things?
Someone please confirm that its not just my device on this one.
What WiFi driver issue? I don't seem to have any issues running mine over WiFi.
RootPhisher said:
What WiFi driver issue? I don't seem to have any issues running mine over WiFi.
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There is a confirmed wifi problem on enterprise networks using DHCP regardless of encryption that effects all captivates.
Specifically, Cisco APs.
I too have noticed that the compass doesn't seem to work right. I haven't tried Google Skymaps but I did try the Compass app that's in the market and even after doing the calibration, it seems to be WAY off.
Downloaded a free compass app. Worked perfectly for me (GPS turned off, standing still.)
Sent from my Samsung Captivate.
It works, but it isn't accurate. I know where north is at my house. My compass is at least about twenty degrees off.
My brothers aria is off as well, but is far more accurate than my Captivate.
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You need to perform the calibration (rotate the phone in a figure 8 pattern for couple cycles) everytime you use the compass app. After that, it will be accurate. But google skymap is a different issue.
I did calibration every single time, and the compass is still off at least 15 degrees.
And if you rotate it slowly enough, the reading might not change at all.
Mine seems to be pretty accurate (i also know which way if North...)
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Iv had this phone since the day it came out... this phone is awesome in every aspect expect GPS... I had the blackberry bold 9000 and that had an excellent GPS never gave me any issues I'm really thinking of trading my captivate for a torch 9800 ... what I want to know it that is there any hope for this GPS? And when should. We expect it
In a word No. This really seems like a hardware issue. otherwise this would have been taken care of in the subsequent updates. Cappy is a great device but the gps is very hit or miss. Line of sight is very important if that is lost gps loses fix. It seems like a hardware issue no matter what software fix or setting you can use.
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Am I the only one that believes it will with froyo? I'm not giving up!
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If you guys really want your gps to work there are a couple ways I have found to improve it greatly. This is as close to a fix as i can find out there, and I am somewhat happy with my gps now. I say somewhat because it really should have been totally fixed by now. I am running a i9000 rom with my lbstestmode setting stock except accuracy set to 250 which IMO only makes it lock faster and doesn't affect accuracy. I can usually get a lock accurate to 10-15 m in about 5 sec outside. Navigation tracks well I usually only have one or two hiccups on a 30 mile trip. I have been running this set up for about a month and a half so I am pretty sure it will stick. And btw my gps never got a lock stock no matter what I did if I wasn't using wireless networks. Hope this helps.
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I don't think its a hardware issue. I am in Canada and the GPs has been working pretty much flawlessly on the Rogers Captivate. You can see other threads and everyone who has had a Rogers Captivate and flashed other ROMS (ie. AT&T) has noted that their GPS turned to crap.
I have had this phone for a month and the GPS has been stable and I get an accurate reading down to (5-10m) in 10 seconds or so.
I believe that it is a driver issue and how it tries to communicate with the software on our phones. Sure each ROM means different software settings, which I think helps tweak the software to work a bit better with the driver, but until they fix the communication between the broadcom chip and Samsung's (or AT&T) software, it won't work like it is supposed to. Samsung so far has only tried to fix it in their software, not the driver.
This explanation also helps explain why some GPS's are better than others. No two phones have the exact same files and settings, even from stock, which can explain variance of GPS.
However, hasn't anyone else noticed that the more we move away from Samsung/AT&T software on our phones and unlock it, the better the GPS seems to get, little by little? I believe there will be no solution from Samsung, but it will just appear in the Dev section here one day, when one person stumbles upon the real communication culprit when messing around on their system.
On perception build three rom. Did juniper fix. I get a lock in under 10 seconds even with heavy cloud cover. Tracks very well too. It can be fixed. But you have to bee willing to mess around a bit.
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I'm with the OP. I love every single aspect of my phone except the GPS. I LOVE google maps and location based services on the phone. But having them all be crippled is a daily annoyance for me. One person mentioned that the Rogers Captivate works well. Has anyone tried loading a Rogers rom on an AT&T phone?
We all know that GPS issues have affected every initial launch variant of the Galaxy S phones. Is there any version of the phone out there that has gotten an update that fixed the GPS issue for EVERYONE, including TRACKING? If there is, we should be looking into that rom for a fix. If there isn't, I'd say we should be very concerend that a fix will never come.
The GPS will never ever work.
Really too bad for those out there that have GPS not working as expected...I wouldn't be happy either, but since I chgd the supl server to google I've had no problems obtaining a lock-accurate as well..
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In a word No. This really seems like a hardware issue. otherwise this would have been taken care of in the subsequent updates.
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lol
You're making the giant false assumption that Samsung cares about updating.
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juniper
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It's JUPITER, as in, the planet. I tend not to nitpick spelling or grammar but in this case it's really annoying as the first time I heard about this fix I wasted some time searching in vain for JUNIPER (which is a genus of plant), which produces no helpful hits.
I was a non-believer.... The best I ever got was on Stock JH7...
But My GPS is perfect and locks in under 3 seconds on google navigation and tracks perfectly with the Axura Rom.
Last one i tried beta4 worked perfectly. Gonna flash beta5 in the morning and test that out with a long drive tomorrow.
With Axura I have officially left eclair 2.1 in the dust and won't go back due to the over sophistication of Axura. I give it a week or two before it is clearly the most used rom on the Galaxy S line.
I will take a video of my gps and google nav with my wifes blackberry 9700 running os6.
I know my post is unbelievable.. just wait for the video footage.
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I will take a video of my gps and google nav with my wifes blackberry 9700 running os6.
I know my post is unbelievable.. just wait for the video footage.
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Anything that incorporates the Jupiter v006 files seems to have significantly improved GPS, including Axura (I'm not 100% sure it uses the Jupiter v006 files but it sure seems like it) and Perception.
I haven't really read of anyone having significant GPS problems once they have any ROM with the Jupiter v006 tweaks or applied it manually themselves, but we'll see as time goes on.
A couple days ago I was in Perception snooping around, and found a GPS settings file in the system that had different settings than in the Jupiter006 file. The Jupiter file was in there, but this file was named something different and a different location, and it used a different supl. I was looking for something else at the time, so I mentally noted it to go back and check it out for testing, but I can't find it now, I looked for it for an hour today. :/
Hmmm..... The GPS locking on is not the problem i get locks with in seconds , what is the problem is accuracy, the gps works NEARLY flawless in locking and accuracy when on a highway or interstate but when driving in the city were streets are close to each other my location jumps around like crazy, im using AXURA beta 5 and ive tried supl.google.com with no luck thanks for all your help everyone, ill look up the Jupiter fix and see if it helps ....I'm not to good with any tweaking other then flashing and lag fix's so if someone can lead me to a tutorial on the Jupiter fix that would really help
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Anything that incorporates the Jupiter v006 files seems to have significantly improved GPS, including Axura (I'm not 100% sure it uses the Jupiter v006 files but it sure seems like it) and Perception.
I haven't really read of anyone having significant GPS problems once they have any ROM with the Jupiter v006 tweaks or applied it manually themselves, but we'll see as time goes on.
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with perception 4 i had my worst gps problems. I have had good lock times with just about ever rom including stock but with perception 4 i had difficulty acquiring locks period.
Tracking is a bigger issue. I don't believe the gps will ever track perfectly or even close to the performance that it should. Someone claimed their device tracks perfectly with auxura which i haven't tried but will....but again i am skeptical and would be curious exactly how much real-time driving navigation they have tested.
Anytime someone brings up the notion of this being at least partially a hardware issue people say that it just speculation. Asserting that it isn't is no less speculation.
With some of the beastly devices coming (as soon as january...im looking at your terminator aka olympus) not address the serious gps flaw is not good business. So i believe if it could be fixed with firmware it would have been and you wouldn't hear them use words like OPTIMIZE instead of fix/repair. Am i the only one the thinks it seems they realized they can't fix it and are just trying to hold on and sell as many as they can (several places had them free with 2year contract yesterday and this weekend) before the next serious contender hits.
I really don't care for IOS but mapquest + wife's iphone 4 is a good example of how the gps on a phone can and should function in regard to locks and excellent tracking.
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I will take a video of my gps and google nav with my wifes blackberry 9700 running os6.
I know my post is unbelievable.. just wait for the video footage.
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would love to see this. please make sure to use a route with plenty of turns..and some portion of city navigation. I am skeptical that it will track you through every turn as a gps should. Straight line tracking isn't using a problem except for the occasional lag. The tracking problem is it has a serious issue being able to track you accurately enough to know when you had turned 50% or more of the time.
UPDATE
just flashed axura 5 so will give it a brief nav test shortly.
The aesthetics of the settings menu is very nice in this build. I wish they would give up on 3d app drawer though UGLY and SLOW.
Haven't had much time to play with it yet but will report back.
limited testing but might have to eat crow.
FRESH FLASH of AXURA 5
only a 10 mile drive but did incorporated 12-15 turns.
Lock time and accuracy when stationary was great.
Best tracking and turn by turn navigation i have had yet.
Only missed one turn and it corrected itself to actual location much quicker (before when i would turn nav would continue through the intersection and start giving verbal reroutes thinking i was on a different street and then when it would finally think it had correctly re-rerouted it would actually be running parellel to me 1 or 2 blocks off).
Taking this with a grain of salt further testing necessary as i have had promising results with fresh flashed roms before only to have them quickly go to crap within a few days testing. But this is one of the more promising so i will be staying with Axura for now.
The only gps issue that really stood out was a little bit of a lag after you had been completely stationary. Slight Lag pinpointing me on road after i pulled out of driveway and same thing when leaving grocery store parking lot.
PS - are you using the stock gps settings that came with the flash or did you modify anything.
Seriously, around 10pm at night my phones touchscreen becomes very slow and unresponsive and the only way to fix it is a reboot. this only happens when connected to wi-fi and only at night.
More over when playing games sometimes it seems to stop being a multi-touch screen. that is to say playing Gangstar for example if i am walking forward and press the attack button the virtual analog stick stops responding.
Is my phone defective or is this a common problem? I am on an unrooted desire s from Three.
SetCPU/ Juice Defender/ Any other crapware that could be screwing with your processes installed?
Which radio do you have installed? You can update your radio without rooting.
I dont have setcpu or juice defender, i have lookout mobile. might that be doing it? also using cloud based text prediction with swiftkey x.
As for the radio i'm fairly new to android, how do i find that out?
Android 2.3.3
Sense 2.1
Baseband version 20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M
Kernal 2.6.35.10-g2ee27f5
[email protected]#1
Wed Jun 8 19:20:03 CST 2011
Build number 1.47.771.2 CL78999 release-keys
software number 1.47.771.2
If all that gibberish helps?
I have lookout. No slow down here.
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yeah I didn't think that would be causing it. It's just weird. I guess I'll look at using a newer radio or wait for the official update due this week sometime.
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Uppy said:
yeah I didn't think that would be causing it. It's just weird. I guess I'll look at using a newer radio or wait for the official update due this week sometime.
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I can't recommend either of those. If it was your radio you'd see poor performance across the board, not just kicking in a set time.
The official update seems to have more problems and issues than Jordan. I see a new thread daily in the Q&A section about new issues since the OTA update. Avoid it like you'd avoid Jordan.
The best way to rule out user error is to factory reset. If it's a hardware fault of the phone, the problem will persist and you know it (unfortunately) needs to go back for repair. Backup what you need, and try it. After the restore, try not to put anything back on app wise until after 10pm. Perhaps do the wipe at 9pm. Use google maps to test multi-touch. Mybackup Pro from the market, although not free, does have a trial period (or it used to) that should suffice for this experiment. Plus for non-rooted users, it's worth paying for as a backup app. Can even save your home-screen arrangement.
If it stops then you know it was something you had installed/set-up or a hiccup with your ROM. To find out which from here it is trial-and-error. Install this which gives you back the battery usage monitor Froyo (Android 2.2) used to have....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
I'm assuming here that poor laggy screen response will go hand-in-hand with battery drain. Something kicking off at 10pm on WiFi should make itself apparent by moving quickly up the list between 9pm and 11pm.
Let me know if this helps. If not we can try a few other ideas out.
Thank you, I tried a factory reset last week, the problem was fine for a while but this weekend it started again, once again playing gangstar or any game that requires multi touch becomes unresponsive and te only way to fix it is a soft reset. I guess I got a defective phone. damn. its only 2 weeks old too.
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Thank you, I tried a factory reset last week, the problem was fine for a while but this weekend it started again, once again playing gangstar or any game that requires multi touch becomes unresponsive and te only way to fix it is a soft reset. I guess I got a defective phone. damn. its only 2 weeks old too.
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So all is fine until gangstar goes on? I must admit i don't play many games, but it does sound like the game is at the root of this. Any other similar reports on the game in the market? Tried emailing the dev? Still don't understand why 10pm would be significant. Is it ok playing this game at other times? What happens if you manually change your clock to 9:55pm during the day?
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No not just gangstar, Gameboid, N64oid, GBAoid, NOVA, Spider-Man, most games.
I know but its always 10pm and happens every few hours after that until I go to bed. its just bizarre but the time might be a coincidense?
This may be a bit "out there" and a wild guess, but are you using a non-official charger when you play games? Say at around 10pm? I have heard that the cheap chargers from Hong Kong / China although they spit out 5VDC, it's such a noisy unrectified rippled DC output it hampers touch screen performance. See these examples...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejja4601NGQ
And this thread seems to sound like your problems...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1141352
Edit: This is the on I was looking for....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpDyMykRH9M
Wait, when I'm at my girlfriends house I use her blade charger, might that do it?
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Best way to check would be to use that multi touch test app mentioned in the last clip. Should tell you if your chargers output is causing the multi touch issue. Gotta be worth a try. HTC are taking up to 5 Weeks to get repairs done. My friend returned his desire s recently (fried eMMC chip) and that's how long it took!
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Thanks wnp, i've come to the conclusion that it's faulty however. "Ghost images" are now starting to appear on my phone. Like right now even though I'm on the xda app I can faintly see my sense clock and icons.
Very frustrating.
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Hi,
I am using the official 4.1.2 OTA ROM on the i9023 phone. I have recently realised that the quality of GPS is quite bad. The phone would often lose the signal when I am mountain biking in the open, it is nigh impossible to get a lock whilst driving at out-of-town speeds and the GPS Test app only shows 30-something SNR when outside with nothing but the sky above me.
Is that what you can expect from this phone, or is mine somehow faulty?
My contract will be over soon-ish, and I was looking into getting Nexus 4 or RAZR MAXX HD. How is the GPS on those devices? Thank you for the input in advance.
I never had problems with my GPS since gingerbread which could not solved by a reboot. Sometimes it takes a few minutes to get a fix, but that's all.
Well, I have never had problems getting a lock per se. When I'm biking, it is quick to get a lock if I stop to look where I am. Where it fails is e.g. when recording a track - I recorded one which was pretty much jumping between the approximate tower position and the accurate GPS one.
My friend has the Maxx HD and its GPS is pretty good as for the Nexus 4 I couldn't tell you. Also my Nexus S has pretty good GPS for a Samsung device.
The Nexus S was the only Galaxy S variant I had that didn't require the hardware gps fix to get good signal. Make sure you update to the latest modem/baseband. Or you can open up the phone and add a bit of solder to all the gold contacts to improve the signal.
Just get a device that support both gps and glonass, which the nexus 4 will have.
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Whenever I use GPS it drains the battery really quickly. 40 minute journey and it used 60% no idea why but when I didn't have a car charger I was pretty annoyed!
Never had any issues regarding getting a lock usually works OK.
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Gps kills the nexus S.. I can't even lock on while driving (I'd have to pull over and stop, then wait for it to acquire lock before moving again)
Not to mention the Gps update speed is only 1hz.. Much too slow especially for highway usage..
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Huh?!
Where did you get that idea?
It works so well, I even forgot about it...
belegdol said:
Hi,
I am using the official 4.1.2 OTA ROM on the i9023 phone. I have recently realised that the quality of GPS is quite bad. The phone would often lose the signal when I am mountain biking in the open, it is nigh impossible to get a lock whilst driving at out-of-town speeds and the GPS Test app only shows 30-something SNR when outside with nothing but the sky above me.
Is that what you can expect from this phone, or is mine somehow faulty?
My contract will be over soon-ish, and I was looking into getting Nexus 4 or RAZR MAXX HD. How is the GPS on those devices? Thank you for the input in advance.
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What app do you use ? I don't have any issues with the Sports tracker app while biking, using it for over a year now, it even runs in the airplane mode without the cell help.
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What app do you use ? I don't have any issues with the Sports tracker app while biking, using it for over a year now, it even runs in the airplane mode without the cell help.
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I was using Outdoor Atlas - mainly because it offers support for the Swiss topo maps. I need to give Sports Tracker a shot, but now it is kinda cold for biking
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belegdol said:
Hi,
I am using the official 4.1.2 OTA ROM on the i9023 phone. I have recently realised that the quality of GPS is quite bad. The phone would often lose the signal when I am mountain biking in the open, it is nigh impossible to get a lock whilst driving at out-of-town speeds and the GPS Test app only shows 30-something SNR when outside with nothing but the sky above me.
Is that what you can expect from this phone, or is mine somehow faulty?
My contract will be over soon-ish, and I was looking into getting Nexus 4 or RAZR MAXX HD. How is the GPS on those devices? Thank you for the input in advance.
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My GPS is slow to find satellities but after that, never lose signal!
GPS
use a modified gps.conf if your Nexus S is rooted
It works great here! Everytime I need, and fast. Really surprised me, after switching from my old Galaxy Ace. Once I got a lock inside my bedroom, where even the carrier signal fails sometimes.
I have the Sprint variant and have horror stories upon horror stories about the GPS...it once turned my 2 hour trip to a 6 hour nightmare *shudder*
Anyway, I'm rooting and trying out new fixes now before I finally bite and get a new phone, one of the things I'm trying is outlined in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683366
I did the fix this morning and then flashed a new ROM, not sure if it holds up with different ROMs but I'll try it again should I have issues.
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use a modified gps.conf if your Nexus S is rooted
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Also, how do you do this?
You can try this hardware mod if you are brave to open your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9923176, I have opened up the captivate, vibrant and nexus s, it applies to all of them.
Also you can try this gps fix patch, not sure if it work with the Nexus S, but maybe since they're both Galaxy S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33844820
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I have to admit - when I bought my used Nexus S a couple of weeks back, this thread frightened me. However, first time using GPS I got a lock from inside my house in about 20 seconds. That's awesome compared to what I'm used to. The only issue is that the "Accuracy" is only about 10 meters, as opposed to 6 with my Liberty...
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You can try this hardware mod if you are brave to open your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9923176, I have opened up the captivate, vibrant and nexus s, it applies to all of them.
Also you can try this gps fix patch, not sure if it work with the Nexus S, but maybe since they're both Galaxy S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33844820
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Haha I'm too craven to try such hardware tweaking. I will try the patch though.
I can't seem to get the GPS to report my speed to Tasker (I have a profile that auto-responds to texts while driving). Is this a known issue?
So,
I've really been getting into Ingress lately, and my phone never points in the correct direction.. I've spent the last 2 hours messing with settings and attempting to re-calibrate. I can't remember if I had this problem when I first got the phone but I have tried on AOKP, CM10, Carbon, Synergy, and stock verizon ROMs and the problem is persistent.
Has anyone found a fix to this, or is my device just defective?
I can't help your issue but you will love the game. L7 here.
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You luckily got an invite. I am still waiting. I had the problem on my first s3 because of all the gps issues I had to get a new one . I geocache while I travel and the compass was so batty I always going in the wrong direction.
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You need to manually recalibrate the compass often by walking around until the gps picks up your movement.
My compass is always off when I first start an app like maps. Need to recalibrate it and it should stay good for a awhile
I think you recalibrate it by moving it around in a figure 8 a few times. My problem is different the compass seems to work but it doesnt stay still. Its all jittery and bounces around a few degrees in both directions. Nothing I have tried works if anyone has seen this before I'd love to hear ideas on fixing it.