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Samsung USA Getting Hammered On Facebook

For anyone interested it's a good read. Galaxy S users are pressuring Samsung USA on virtually every post Samsung has made on the lack of the 2.2 update. I doubt it will have any affect but it does shed light on the plight of the Galaxy S owners and with hundreds being posted somebody will respond sooner or later somewhere whether Samsung or AT&T.

Haha, I especially enjoyed this comment:
I was going to check it out on my Captivate, but it's turned itself off again. Maybe when it gets through rebooting.
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Good thing the GPS doesn't really work, or people would be showing up at their headquarters!

nooomoto said:
Good thing the GPS doesn't really work, or people would be showing up at their headquarters!
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Hahah, awesome.
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Might help raise awareness of the issue
We are the 3% of the Captivate phone owner population that realized we are getting screwed, but the other 97% might never know of the update situation and are completely unaware that an update could potentially fix a lot of their problems

Did they close/delete the post? Your link is not taking me to it. I WANT to give my two cents too.
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This is awesome. Sign me up!
http://androidcommunity.com/class-a...ver-lack-of-froyo-update-to-vibrant-20110114/
It's the principle of the thing, you know? Support your products, Samsung. We aren't going to buy new products just to get an open source upgrade. Thank God for xda...
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RockRatt said:
Did they close/delete the post? Your link is not taking me to it. I WANT to give my two cents too.
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Still there, once you get to the page click on Samsung USA + Others

I just reported the page to facebook as a scam or spam page....

msinkovich said:
I just reported the page to facebook as a scam or spam page....
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Seriously? And you did this why?

Because the promise of the update has been a scam so far...and they're unwilling to answer inquiries directly.

msinkovich said:
Because the promise of the update has been a scam so far...and they're unwilling to answer inquiries directly.
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Well at worst case all that would accomplish is getting their FB page shutdown (highly improbable) and close a source for the public to get informed.

looks like they turned off posting to their wall

alphadog00 said:
looks like they turned off posting to their wall
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You just need to "like" the page first to write comments. Just remember to delete the fact that you liked it on your profile page
I left some friendly () comments of my own

Just be sure to be a little nice about it but make the point that we need/want what was promised. no need to go over the top.
I am going to check it daily and post something on every new topic i see. I request that others do it also, aiming to just get some sort of info from them about the situation.

Haha I've been one of the people posting over at Samsung USA for the last few weeks. I try to go ever there and post a comment or an article every so often. It's been good to see more and more people doing the same. Don't know if it'll do any good or not, but at least it's cathartic and it spreads the word. Glad to see some people have taken notice.

If the word gets out, it will do damage to brand reputation. And everything is about advertising.

bemilm said:
Haha I've been one of the people posting over at Samsung USA for the last few weeks. I try to go ever there and post a comment or an article every so often. It's been good to see more and more people doing the same. Don't know if it'll do any good or not, but at least it's cathartic and it spreads the word. Glad to see some people have taken notice.
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I just started today. I'll make it a daily visit/post in my Facebook travels.

http://androidcommunity.com/class-a...ver-lack-of-froyo-update-to-vibrant-20110114/
Class action lawsuit filed and in motion for the vibrant. very much worth looking into and seeing if us Captivate owners can get in on it as its basically the same device.

They also have a samsungusa youtube account to leave comments on
From a phone

Is there a Nexus/Android timeline?

Apologies if this has been asked to death, but my phone search couldn't find it.
I'm in bed with a stinky cold and trying to solve the age-old upgrade connumdrem (nexus or gs2, nexus or gs2). Anyway, I think a timeline of release dates for Nexii/Android OS would help me figure this out, but I can't find one (please bear in mind, my brain is fried atm).
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Wikipedia.
Spoilers: They basically release one Nexus per year.
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TheBiles said:
Wikipedia.
Spoilers: They basically release one Nexus per year.
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But of course, my brain really is fried today

I was up for renewal in Aug. I asked the same questions you did. I am on US verizon. I kept looking at "Galaxy Nexus Coming soon" for months. Dare I say, I was about to go for an iphone. Looking back I'm glad I held out, but I agree, roadmaps with timelines for milestone releases would be nice. I have to do it in my business.

Thanks for that. I ended up going with yhe S2 as i think i value storage over the layest updates.
I did actually make a timeline with contract lengths & update schedules in the end and that clinched it!
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Would you mind posting that for the convenience of the other members here?

galaxys_user1 said:
Would you mind posting that for the convenience of the other members here?
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He's talking about when he upgraded his phones and when he can get more... wouldn't be much use to anyone else...

B-Naughty said:
He's talking about when he upgraded his phones and when he can get more... wouldn't be much use to anyone else...
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Yes it does, tho the site i used (timetoast ) would be handy for a Nexus timeline.
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I can not explain it.

The nexus' phones launch at the end of every year, while the Galaxy S line launches in april or june
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Unknown.

So I went to a few stores today that sells att phones. I asked everyone in all 5 of the stores about the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Note LTE, noone even knew about it as if it will be coming out 6 years from now -.- noone knew there was one even coming out let alone the name :/ it kind of makes me sad when the consumer knows more then the sales reps. They should train more in my opinion this was just my little experiance for the day just thought I'd share. Anyone else looking forward to the note lte for att?
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Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps are always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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KayxGee1 said:
In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps at always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics

Bush715 said:
Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics
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That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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KayxGee1 said:
That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.

Bush715 said:
If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.
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I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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KayxGee1 said:
I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha

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Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha
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Haha yea I understand. I never ask about a device until it's all over the internet and comfirmed by many sources. That's like calling HTC and asking about the rumored Edge.
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I even tried bestbuy lol and the guys words were "our phone tech isn't here today he will be here tomorrow from 12-6" I live 40 mins away from anything so its not in my best choice to go back but anywho I go to the same att retailer when I buy my phones. They know me there and come at me quick because I don't just come in to buy a cheap pantech crossover I'm there with cash in hand and buy phones straight up xD so they are always willing to help. When I went in to buy my Sony xperia play 4g I handed her my iPhone to Bluetooth my contacts, she looked at my iPhone and her exact words were "what the F is this" it was running wp7 xD Haha but in all seriousness I think someone should be hired in the certain area. It'd be like hiring me to sell cars or ovens when I know nothing about them, I feel like they just hire anyone :/ I went to buy a computer once and the worker argued for 30 minutes that 512mb was a gigabyte :/ I shook my head and took my business elsewhere I just don't understand... sometimes I wish everyone cared about a phone as much as we do... instead of "as long as I can listen to music watch YouTube and look at porn, I don't care what it looks like or what it does" :'( I honestly just want to teach everyone for free so I don't feel so smart and dumb at the same time. anyone else feel that way?
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phzi said:
Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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I agree. I've perused tablets in Best Buy and after engaging the nearest 'team member' for less than 3 minutes, I realize that I know more than they do.
It's the same experience when going to the auto parts store. There are some people who can carry on informed conversation, but 90% are the type who watch fast & furious movies in awe, and know nothing about repair or maintenance or they can only look up part numbers.
Basically, lower your expectations.

This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.

I Am Marino said:
This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.
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I have had similar experience with applying for jobs at auto parts stores. The 'now hiring' sign is displayed for several months and the staff changes about every 3 weeks, but I never get called. For a while there was an older woman who not only knew nothing about cars but she also needed help to use the computer program to look up parts.
I finally realized that these people will work for less money than I will because I actually know what I am doing. It really is sad that people with any level of technical or mechanical ability don't actually work at the retail level because they can't get enough money.
And don't get me started on the people who work at Home Depot . .

I have no past work experiance. I'm 19 years old have been the "bad" kid because I used to be a "black magic" hacker I've gotten introuble from schools best buys and targets because of it but now I'm past all that I do phones tablets anything mobile. There is never a time when I'm in best buy that I'm back in the computer/phone area and usually an older citizen is talking to a sales Rep about which one is better and the sales Rep says well product A is $1299 with 4gb ram touchscreen is way better then product B $899 8gb ram and so on but they go by the price as the sales Rep was walking her to the register I kindly walked up and said "hello ma'am I noticed you were interested in two different so-so" the sales Rep called the manager and had me kicked out for costing him the sale xD but they wont hire me? I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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i have to say i agree not many of the people in the stores even know about the phones they have in front of them much less whats coming out.

toxicpaulution said:
... I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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I don't mean to overstep the rules of polite conversation but you may wish to think about your image. It isn't fair that we judge based on looks, but it happens.
*Edit - When I say looks I also means assumptions that people will make of others based on their prejudices. -*End Edit
Most recently, I applied for a job repairing projectors. During the interview they kept asking me about how well I would transition to an office environment. Completely Ridiculous! I would be working in the workshop not the office and I happened to be better dressed than any of my interviewers.
Basically, some people cannot see past their little world or people they can understand.

Man Verizon store by me they don't know anything. And they are jerks as well. Went to upgrade my moms phone and said she wouldn't get unlimited data with her Droid 3 so I just bought it from newegg called up and boom she got her unlimited data. Never going back to that store again. Hate how now you have to bring phone to store to get replaced.
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toxicpaulution said:
They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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Frig no, we need no more non technical people. Like how not everyone is cut out for engineering or medicine, not everyone is cut out for xda.
$1 gets you a reply

I'm not saying everyone join xda but if you going to sell something atleast know alittle about the past present and the future you can't be like well I'm sorry I don't know about cars from 2011 back I only know about the 2012 Ford focus and that's all sorry can't work on you're car -.-
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Finally HTC get the message

I think HTC are beginning to get worried about the negative press over the One series.
Had a call from HTC customer service today in response to a survey I filled in recently.
Basically I slated them and their response to my support call.
I asked them a specific question about their new Bluetooth audio dongle and they gave me some crap generic response about how not all phones have the same Bluetooth functionality (my request had nothing to do with phones merely the specification of the dongle).
Anyway I didn't pick up because the number was 'unknown' but they left a very detailed message and seemed very keen to get a resolution (apparently ;-)).
What do you reckon? Call back and hurl abuse???
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I reckon this thread serves no purpose.
Your wondering whether to call back and give 'more abuse' , when they have phoned you directly to try to solve your issue.
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chrisnash said:
I think HTC are beginning to get worried about the negative press over the One series.
Had a call from HTC customer service today in response to a survey I filled in recently.
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What do you guys do for a living? No company intentionally does things that aren't in the best interest of their customers. Big multi-billion dollar (pound, euro) companies can't turn on a dime. At least in the U.S., my experience with HTC so far has been light years better than Samsung. The fact that HTC sent you a survey (which they pay for) means they do care about what their customers think. And I guarantee you whatever their response is it in no way has anything to do with the *****ing taking place on XDA.
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Are you 12? First you complain that your issues weren’t properly addressed. Then, it appears HTC's trying to further assist you. And the first thing that came to your mind is "hurl abuse?"
You guys really need to get lives as making a piece of electronic kit the focal point of your existence is just plain scary.

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What do you guys do for a living? No company intentionally does things that aren't in the best interest of their customers. Big multi-billion dollar (pound, euro) companies can't turn on a dime. At least in the U.S., my experience with HTC so far has been light years better than Samsung. The fact that HTC sent you a survey (which they pay for) means they do care about what their customers think. And I guarantee you whatever their response is it in no way has anything to do with the *****ing taking place on XDA.
Are you 12? First you complain that your issues weren’t properly addressed. Then, it appears HTC's trying to further assist you. And the first thing that came to your mind is "hurl abuse?"
You guys really need to get lives as making a piece of electronic kit the focal point of your existence is just plain scary.
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Get em Barry!!!!!!!! I agree
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I've had HTC call me after a survey in the past as well when I had issues with my old Sensation. Found them more than helpful

Who cares? I don't.
Can I help you? Nope.
Can you help me? Nope.
Do I learn something from this thread? Nope.
Do you learn something? Hopefully yes. :cyclops:
chrisnash said:
I think HTC are beginning to get worried about the negative press over the One series.
Had a call from HTC customer service today in response to a survey I filled in recently.
Basically I slated them and their response to my support call.
I asked them a specific question about their new Bluetooth audio dongle and they gave me some crap generic response about how not all phones have the same Bluetooth functionality (my request had nothing to do with phones merely the specification of the dongle).
Anyway I didn't pick up because the number was 'unknown' but they left a very detailed message and seemed very keen to get a resolution (apparently ;-)).
What do you reckon? Call back and hurl abuse???
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i smell trolls
threadstarter si trying to get the attention of HTC for what? the fact that they made the effort to call you back with regards to your survey means that they have good customer service. and you wanted to "hurl abuse?" imo HTC doesnt need customers like you.

If you got time, I'd call back and actually tell them what you didn't like and how they should've handled it.
The fact is that companies like HTC pay these survey companies to study these things, collect customer feedback so that later on HTC can process it and work on improving their image/products.
How efficient that is - that's another debate. But I really think you need to use this opportunity to make your voice heard.
At the very least, you'll feel vented =)

Pointless thread you lot. No need to post anymore let it die down. Next:banghead:
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BarryH_GEG said:
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I stopped reading right here.

DarkDvr said:
If you got time, I'd call back and actually tell them what you didn't like and how they should've handled it.
The fact is that companies like HTC pay these survey companies to study these things, collect customer feedback so that later on HTC can process it and work on improving their image/products.
How efficient that is - that's another debate. But I really think you need to use this opportunity to make your voice heard.
At the very least, you'll feel vented =)
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Your post is the only one that i could read, the others are garbage.
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barondebxl said:
Your post is the only one that i could read, the others are garbage.
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says the person who just wrote absolute garbage himself with the reply you are giving

Goku80 said:
says the person who just wrote absolute garbage himself with the reply you are giving
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Sure.
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Update on the evita and Sense 5

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2013/07/htc-upgrade-list-whos-getting-android-4-2-2-and-sense-5.html
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This was also posted inthe petition thread but you'll notice they don't really site any particular source. In any case, they did confirm the one xl was getting sense 5 while I was emailing them about the One S

if by "confirm" you mean completely unsubstantiated rumors with zero mention of a source? If they really had this info, wouldn't they just take a picture of the spreadsheet or whatever they got it from?

thebobmannh said:
if by "confirm" you mean completely unsubstantiated rumors with zero mention of a source? If they really had this info, wouldn't they just take a picture of the spreadsheet or whatever they got it from?
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Huh?.. Why would HTC spread a rumour to me in emails? They told me the one XL will be getting the update but that the One S would not but that it was not for sure if the North american One S would or not.

exad said:
Huh?.. Why would HTC spread a rumour to me in emails?
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a) my comment was in response to the worthless article that cited no source at all
b) to shut you up? What do they have to lose? If they don't give you a date, they can constantly say "it's coming..." every time you bother them, until you sell your phone and lose interest. Like a phone company has never promised an update for a phone and then balked / not come through? Oh no, wait, it happens all the time.
Not trying to even say they lied to you, per se, it's just easy for them to say "sure, we have plans to do it" and never get around to it. These rumor threads are silly because there's no time frame or accountability.

thebobmannh said:
a) my comment was in response to the worthless article that cited no source at all
b) to shut you up? What do they have to lose? If they don't give you a date, they can constantly say "it's coming..." every time you bother them, until you sell your phone and lose interest. Like a phone company has never promised an update for a phone and then balked / not come through? Oh no, wait, it happens all the time.
Not trying to even say they lied to you, per se, it's just easy for them to say "sure, we have plans to do it" and never get around to it. These rumor threads are silly because there's no time frame or accountability.
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I think you're getting excited for nothing, There's a petition and many of us I'm sure, are willing to boycott HTC should they decide not to update. These manufacturers have to be taught. No point in crying and getting all butthurt about it. If they decide not to update, we teach them by not buying anymore HTC products. That's just my 2c
And please don't say things like "To shut you up" I have the right to free speech just like you.

I'm not crying nor butthurt. Quite the opposite - I actually don't care if HTC updates or not. It'd be nice, but I'm not losing sleep on it (or writing petitions....). I just think these threads about unsubstantiated rumors are silly is all. If it's gonna come, they'll announce a release date; if they don't, no point in getting people excited / upset over nothing. It's completely empty filler.

thebobmannh said:
I'm not crying nor butthurt. Quite the opposite - I actually don't care if HTC updates or not. It'd be nice, but I'm not losing sleep on it (or writing petitions....). I just think these threads about unsubstantiated rumors are silly is all. If it's gonna come, they'll announce a release date; if they don't, no point in getting people excited / upset over nothing. It's completely empty filler.
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Then why did you bother posting at all?... lol.

exad said:
Then why did you bother posting at all?... lol.
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Eh, boredom I guess.
And unsubstantiated rumors are a pet peeve. I'll go away now, sorry

thebobmannh said:
Eh, boredom I guess.
And unsubstantiated rumors are a pet peeve. I'll go away now, sorry
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lol no need to apologize, as I said earlier, we all have a right to free speech!
Hopefully you will join in my boycott of HTC if they don't release updates. The more we are, the more likely they will learn!

This thread is akin to a call of duty mw3 lobby where there's always atleast 1 smack talker. :thumbup:
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Last I heard One X was getting the update September/October with XL to follow shortly after that making it October/November.
One S would have followed that with Nov/Dec/Jan which pushes it outside HTC's 18month rule which is probably why they decided they wont be updating it.

twistedddx said:
Last I heard One X was getting the update September/October with XL to follow shortly after that making it October/November.
One S would have followed that with Nov/Dec/Jan which pushes it outside HTC's 18month rule which is probably why they decided they wont be updating it.
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Actually, the S4 version of the One S IS getting the update, it's only the S3 version that isn't.
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Funny just a few hours ago I was wondering when well get the update
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thebobmannh said:
I'm not crying nor butthurt. Quite the opposite - I actually don't care if HTC updates or not. It'd be nice, but I'm not losing sleep on it (or writing petitions....). I just think these threads about unsubstantiated rumors are silly is all. If it's gonna come, they'll announce a release date; if they don't, no point in getting people excited / upset over nothing. It's completely empty filler.
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This is the second time in one week I'm hearing people say butthurt. Is it just me or is 24 considered old and outdated already lol
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nhshah7 said:
This is the second time in one week I'm hearing people say butthurt. Is it just me or is 24 considered old and outdated already lol
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lol i'm 29

exad said:
lol i'm 29
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Oh man then I must be ancient at 32
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timmaaa said:
oh man then i must be ancient at 32
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haha! Damn right old man!

exad said:
haha! Damn right old man!
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*hobbles back to my easy chair with my zimmer frame*
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timmaaa said:
Oh man then I must be ancient at 32
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Just turned 33 here. Ready for retirement.