This might be incredibly stupid, but does anyone know if it's possible to have your phone deep sleep while playing music through headphones? Because it sticks at min freq and kinda eats up battery, regardless of governor or I/O
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Androideka5 said:
This might be incredibly stupid, but does anyone know if it's possible to have your phone deep sleep while playing music through headphones? Because it sticks at min freq and kinda eats up battery, regardless of governor or I/O
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Sry to unearth that thread, but i had the same question and didn't found an answer here on xda - so i checked it myself.
And the answer is yes, it is possible, but to my knowledge there aren't many music players that support this.
If the sceen is off they buffer the blayback and let the CPU go to sleep and occasionally wake it up to rebuffer.
CPU is in deep sleep for 60..80+ % of the time.
Music players that let the cpu deep sleep (to my knowledge):
- clean music player
- es player (part of es file explorer)
Music players that idle at min frequency or higher and dont allow deep sleep:
google music player, playerpro, neutron, shuttle, nexmusic, n7player, poweramp
I've checked the deep sleep behavior of the above mentioned players with CPU Spy v0.40 on Stock Nexus 5.
The downside is that costum Kernels can cause the playback to stutter, just stop and/or other things.
I don't know exactly why but my quess is that happens because of a too low frequency in the time the cpu is awake - to raise that may help.
Or its maybe because of too agressive governors that force the cpu to early back to deep sleep.
It would be interesting to see if anyone else had made similar observations, found other music players that support deep sleep of the cpu.
greetings muckefug
Hi,
The solution is to stop the media player after a certain time. If you want to sleep with music we have a tool that allows you to set the duration for the player and a gradual reduction of volume at the end. So it will stop the player and let the phone to go to deep sleep mode
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Hi,
The solution is to stop the media player after a certain time. If you want to sleep with music we have a tool that allows you to set the duration for the player and a gradual reduction of volume at the end. So it will stop the player and let the phone to go to deep sleep mode
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The goal is not to go to sleep while hearing music and stopping the music when you are asleep.
The goal is that the music is playing while the cpu of your phone can go to the "deep sleep"-state and in consequence to save battery while playing music.
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The goal is not to go to sleep while hearing music and stopping the music when you are asleep.
The goal is that the music is playing while the cpu of your phone can go to the "deep sleep"-state and in consequence to save battery while playing music.
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I understand that but what i mean is that playing music needs cpu to run in normal mode, I don't think that it's possible with android coding and i think that you don't have to worry about that as your screen will go off after a certain time and as you know the screen is consuming more than 95%
That was also my thought ... But some player like the above mentioned display this behavior of letting the cpu go into deep sleep state on nexus 5 with android 4.4. The playback works fine for a while but then just stops and/or crashes utterly. Seems to be a bug with the new android but non the less the playback works for a while (up to 5 to 10 min)
The CPU is for 50 to 75 % of the time in deep sleep
Would be interesting to see an player who can make usage of that behavior/bug. There is always need for more battery life
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That was also my thought ... But some player like the above mentioned display this behavior of letting the cpu go into deep sleep state on nexus 5 with android 4.4. The playback works fine for a while but then just stops and/or crashes utterly. Seems to be a bug with the new android but non the less the playback works for a while (up to 5 to 10 min)
The CPU is for 50 to 75 % of the time in deep sleep
Would be interesting to see an player who can make usage of that behavior/bug. There is always need for more battery life
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That's right but I don't think that as app developers, we have that control. All what we can use is wake lock to wake up the device partially or fully when it's locked or to keep screen on, but for media player it's handled by the system so I think that this optimization is done by mobile constructors. You can use batterystats app to keep track of wake locks to detect big consumers and stop them (or remove them) to keep your battery charged for long
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I'd like to bump this thread. I'm REALLY interested in such music player that would allow deep sleep during playbackplayback. We now have high memory devices, some with whooping 4gb of ram that could hold the entire library of most casual users. I really do hope there actually is a player that would simply load like 20 tracks that are in the Playlist to ram and then simply let it go with minimal cpu usage thus hopefully allowing for deep sleep. I did see a something interesting on my windows pc. Few years ago, when I started using foobar2000 I got a BSOD, irrelevant to the player, but I was listening to music and after a BSOD it actually kept playing for quite long even though the os was on halt completely. Thanks to the long 30s buffer I set in foobar2000.
I think this concept COULD actually work on our android devices. Please do correct me if I'm wrong. If there's already such player then please post a link. I'll be glad to try it. I'm a music addict so that would help me.
I did try clean music player, but I couldn't find a way to play all tracks from one directory including it's subdirectories. All I care about is shuffle all tracks from one directory including it's subdirectories and of course ability to use a equalizer.
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I'd like to bump this thread. I'm REALLY interested in such music player that would allow deep sleep during playbackplayback. We now have high memory devices, some with whooping 4gb of ram that could hold the entire library of most casual users. I really do hope there actually is a player that would simply load like 20 tracks that are in the Playlist to ram and then simply let it go with minimal cpu usage thus hopefully allowing for deep sleep. I did see a something interesting on my windows pc. Few years ago, when I started using foobar2000 I got a BSOD, irrelevant to the player, but I was listening to music and after a BSOD it actually kept playing for quite long even though the os was on halt completely. Thanks to the long 30s buffer I set in foobar2000.
I think this concept COULD actually work on our android devices. Please do correct me if I'm wrong. If there's already such player then please post a link. I'll be glad to try it. I'm a music addict so that would help me.
I did try clean music player, but I couldn't find a way to play all tracks from one directory including it's subdirectories. All I care about is shuffle all tracks from one directory including it's subdirectories and of course ability to use a equalizer.
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Second bump. I would definitely agree with the need of an app like this*! Has anyone found anything?
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Second bump. I would definitely agree with the need of an app like this*! Has anyone found anything?
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I haven't heard about any. I've had an idea of loading tracks in playlists into a single long track, then loading them to ram and that might allow to play them without waking the device, but that requires a certain level of skill.
Worth bumping up in 2022?
Maybe?
(Also looking if this can be solved for Spotify on bluetooth headphones).
I don't know why this excellent feature didn't get widespread acceptance. Other than Nexus 5, I only know the Xiaomi Redmi 3s which supported this feature that too only in Android 6 (stock MIUI and LOS 13). In all the Android versions till A12 which I have used it didn't work.
P.S. Unrelated but Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro and Poco F4 can enter Deep Sleep while serving as a hotspot, at least in MIUI, but not during audio playback
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hi guys, im just wondering...idk if this was answered before or not but i couldnt find it in the search, ermm my question is, which player takes up alot of battery power? the WMP or HTC Player?
From what limited information I have (Never use either, i use TCMP) - I believe WMP uses a LOT more resources and therefor would logically use more battery
forget both of them, download nitrogen. so good! just installed it this week!
i hear good things about htc audio manager
does nitrogen take up more battery life than both?
I believe wmp will take up more battery since it's another program that you'd have to run. Same reason applies to nitrogen. HTC player is built into TF3D so it shouldn't drain more power than it already does. Just my theory, no evidence to back it up though.
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I believe wmp will take up more battery since it's another program that you'd have to run. Same reason applies to nitrogen. HTC player is built into TF3D so it shouldn't drain more power than it already does. Just my theory, no evidence to back it up though.
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Actually the HTC player in TF3D uses HTC Audio Manager. When you go to the music tab it actually launches HTC Audio Manager (or WMP depending on your settings), and its just a frontend to the player.
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does nitrogen take up more battery life than both?
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never actually done any "tests" as to whether or not tflo player takes up more memory...so i'm doing it now. one beef i have with tf3d player is that it takes like 30 seconds to even start a song after i hit the play button. sure it's convenient to have it right in touchflo but it's a pain in the butt to have to wait for teh music to start. i hit play before i started typing this and it's still not playing yet...
okay just finished - my memory usage went up from 40% to 43% wihle i was using it
just to be fair, ran cleanRAM on level 2 to hopefully stop whatever's open. wow, amazing, phone froze, soft resetting...
okay back up - usage down to 37%. okay and now i'm playing music and my usage is up to 39%.
on both touchflo's music player and on nitrogen i had my entire music library set as my playlist. well from my test it seems that nitrogen consumes less of the processor/memory than touchflo's built in music player - which should therefore consume less battery
I was wondering which music player app would be the best for battery life! Winamp, from my experience, is an avid power eater, and I'm not sure about PowerAmp :/
So, any feedback/experience from other players that you might want to share?
8 to 10% per hour on mp3 is typical, more for aac.
Use stock player. As khaytsus said, 8-10% in a hour is pretty normal!
any battery usage trade off i make with poweramp is 100% worth it to me. that app (pro version) led me to sell my ipod, and just buy a bigger sd card for my phone.
Mixzing Media Player is the best!
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any battery usage trade off i make with poweramp is 100% worth it to me. that app (pro version) led me to sell my ipod, and just buy a bigger sd card for my phone.
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Woah that is serious ah! =)
Download Osmonitor from the market & check how much % of the cpu is being used.
For the desire HD, the stock music app actually uses less than 5%, while songbird was using 20-30%.
@Soulofkorea: It's the ugliest!
But yeah, PowerAmp = Nice polished UI, EQ and overall awesome!
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The quality of my life would be greatly reduced if I did not have nostrils.
Music apps that require network access (to DL album art, lyrics, etc.) will use more battery and data. So either turn these features off or use a player without those.
I routinely use poweramp and have not noticed it being a battery hog with wired headphones or bluetooth.
hmm.. winamp? drains less power 1 hour = 5%
If only Winamp has EQ.
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I think what you're looking for is this player: (deleted)
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Minimalistic players use the same codecs everyone else uses, with very few exceptions, and in general it's the codec decoding which uses CPU and therefore battery.
Otherwise, as mentioned, downloading album art or scrobbling will use more as well, but generally can be disabled.
So basically, in your experience, most players consume the same power, as long as their network options are disabled?
Thanks for the quick replies
I listen to a lot of audiobooks and podcasts on my phone and am in desperate need of a player that can do time stretching (high speed playback without pitch distortion). I can do it on my computer and I know the IPhone/Pod can do it. It seems like there should be an app out there somewhere I'm over looking. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Knocking out a twelve hour book in six hours...priceless.
Nothing huh? Kinda what I was afraid of....
Oh well, at least it's in the Mortplayer To Do list...
Hmmmm......there was an app like that long back can't remember it's name but if I have it I will upload it......Till then gud luck with ur hunt!!!!!
You can check out Astro Player Nova. Variable playback used to be free, but after their latest release it'll run you a few quid or bucks. Can't say I'm the biggest fan of the gui but it does its job and I'm happily now getting through my podcast rotation quicker.
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For podcasts there is Doggcatcher that supports an adjustable speed plugin although I believe the speed increase on that only goes as high as x1.6
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Search for Audio Speed Changer. I use this app to slow down music for transcription, and it is excellent. It can slow down or speed up 200 %, and you can set start and end markers.
Wow...thank you guys. I'm going to try out your suggestions tonight. I really didn't think there was an app that would do what I needed...
Thanks to everyone who responded...you guys....and XDA rock!
Thanks for the move stylez, wasn't positive on whether this should go in APPs or Q&A. Appreciate the clarification....won't be so noobish next time.
I´ve just updated Audio Speed Changer with new features that improve its usage as a podcast player.
You can now load whole albums or folders and let the songs play in order. Don't need to load song by song anymore.
There are also many other features, performance improvements and bug fixes.
I hope you like it.
Tnx
Can anyone tell me what this is? And why could it be using so much battery?? I'm running bugless pete 4.0.3.
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Mediaserver is the thingy providing media playback. (Generally player tells mediaserver to play music and it does). Listenong to the music a lot? Watching movies?
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Mediaserver is the thingy providing media playback. (Generally player tells mediaserver to play music and it does). Listenong to the music a lot? Watching movies?
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Normally when I'm driving it's pretty much my iPod.
Do you download stuff on your phone? Media server handles your downloads too
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Try to look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980575
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Try disabling Google Photo sync in your sync settings.. I remember reading somewhere else here that it's part of the media server thing. I listen to allot of music on the bus and while biking. Media sever dropped a bit after disabling this but not much...
Hey guys, No I dont download stuff on my phone ever. I just play music that's it. I'll try disabling anything media related and report back
Hi to everybody! So glad I found this post...hopefully this is going to give me some tips about that cause this is getting so annoying
I own a nexus s i9020 (I know...wrong section..sorry) with ics 4.0.4 (I guess the last 4 doesn't matter) and I'm used to play some music with the official Google music app....after about an hour "mediaserver" has taken the 30% while the music app only takes 20%
Any advice about it?!
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Hey You're not alone. Same issue here with 4.0.4 AOKP Crespo. Really annoying..
You do realize those percentages have to add up to 100 right(along with cell standby and phone idle and whatever else used the battery in that time frame)? I listen to GM on my way to work and my percentages are about the same. It may have to do with the media scanner searching for the files or something like that. I don't really know, but those numbers seem correct if ALL you're doing is listening to music. If you didn't use the phone, it'd probably be split up between just cell standby and phone idle. Now if you weren't actually using any media and it showed up on your usage chart, then I would be concerned.
same thing, all sync things are disabled, wifi/3g - off
music player and any other apps - killed
but media server still working and using about 40% of battery and loading cpu up to 90%
what to do?
phone - nexus s i9023
Always with ICS 4.0.3 ? Update it to the 4.0.4 version
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V 7.8 is out!
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-Song selecting responds much faster
-Added an option to filter/unfilter small media files
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The 432 Player, plays your music while pitching the frequency of your music in real time to be in the 432hz frequency.
This frequency is considered to be much more in tuned with the full essence of the music by many scientists and musicians.
Appum Studios produced this mobile application so all of you listeners around the globe could feel and share the joy of music with all around you, no adds, no in app purchases, just a clear clear sound with slightly different and positive experience
"There is a movement in the Music World that is trying to bring back the 432hz pitch into our lives. "
The A=432hz tuning is also known as “The Mathematical Tuning”, “The Natural Tuning”, ”The Pythagorean Tuning”.
432 Player - Google Play
More Details:
We have all been tuned by the mass media to the Concert pitch of A=440hz.
The majority of the music you listen to is tuned to this pitch.
Today research shows that the 440 pitch is a bit off and disharmonious with our bodies and minds.
If you’re a Musician or an Audiophile or just love listening to your music this will be a tipping point for you.
According to studies 432 resembles a code underlying our very universe in all aspects – light, time, gravity, magnetism, DNA, sacred geometry and the list goes on. 432 number, and its divisions, extends throughout all ancient history.
Why is this important? Because sound (vibration) influences the mind and body immediately.
Even the slightest constant dissonance can bring one to confusion, inner chaos and staying blind to what is going on around.
Think about it, when something irritates you, the only thing you can deal with is making that thing stop.
But you will never address bigger problems.
It is well known today that the molecular structure of water is affected by vibration, thoughts, words, ideas and of-course Music.
Our human body is made of approximately 70% water.
So the link is pretty immediate here.
We are inviting you all to listen to your beloved music through this player which you will not only enjoy the brighter feeling it resonates but also will conceal healing qualities for the body and mind.
Love Light & Meditation.
Appum Studios
Some information about pitch shifting and 432hz vibration:
“Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.”
― Albert Einstein
Links to enrich your knowledge:
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/12/21/heres-why-you-should-convert-your-music-to-432hz/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY74AFQl2qQ
http://omega432.com/432-music/the-importance-of-432hz-music
The app is free, and has no financial background to it. Mainly exists as a tool for those who want to hear their music in a more refined and healthy tone opposed to the 440 Hz.
** The app will pitch shift music that's tuned to A = 440 Hz, it will not work on music tuned to other A note references.
Enjoy
AMAZING!! I really enjoy all my music again!! And it's not a placebo effect.
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AMAZING!! I really enjoy all my music again!! And it's not a placebo effect.
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Thank you so much!
Would love to get more opinions from other users downloading.
I like the idea.
What about Anti-Matter energy?
From Nutrition and Dietetics i hear Calories as energy from within.
Physicists say joules as energy.
Both require matter. But do you know?
NASA is concentrating on Anti-Matter energy to propel their shuttles for interstellar travel?
Theists say Anti Matter as God the creator of matter beyond perception.
About App:
Very good to hear. Flatter tone soothing feeling. Super UI [Forgot to add]
Bug: Continue listening in background stopped player.
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Hey, thanks for the information about Dark Matter.
We would love to hear about any app idea related to those topics of phisics and music combined.
Thank you also for the compliments on the app:angel:
And about the background fix, thank you, we are working on it as we speak:good:
Cheers,
Matan
Zimly
recently found an app called Zimly which is a media player and streaming player put together. Zimly is an app you'd be interested in if you are a frequent media user.
Thanks for sharing it with us
salisburry said:
recently found an app called Zimly which is a media player and streaming player put together. Zimly is an app you'd be interested in if you are a frequent media user.
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Thanks salisburry,
The difference is that thie 432 Player is the only 432hz player in the mobile world
This player was produced to answer many user's request for a media player with 432hz abilities.
You can read the info above to fully understand what is 432hz frequency..
Cool app. Music sounds great. Here are some things that need to be added.
Album art. Album art downloaded like Apollo.
Sort music by track title under all songs. Currently they are listed as album title order.
Better status bar icon. Its just a blank square currently.
Albums are currently listed by when they were added instead of alphabetically.
Once I leave app it stays open and icon persists in the status bar.
Also battery doctor saver App reported this as power drainer. Please look into it.
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Cool app. Music sounds great. Here are some things that need to be added.
Album art. Album art downloaded like Apollo.
Sort music by track title under all songs. Currently they are listed as album title order.
Better status bar icon. Its just a blank square currently.
Albums are currently listed by when they were added instead of alphabetically.
Once I leave app it stays open and icon persists in the status bar.
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Hey, thanks for the suggestions and bug reports!
Song list order will be changed in next version.
Some users prefer it that way, so we might give the option to choose how to sort the music.
What is the mobile device your are trying 432 Player on?
In most devices the album art is presented in the status bar (if it exists)
Do you see the album arts when youre inside the player?
The notification in status bar is supposed to be there, even when you minimize the player and go to other applications on your device, so you can control the music without having to reopen the 432 Player every time..
If you want it to be gone, just press the back button from 432 Players main screen, then choose exit. Than the notification window will be cleared
And thank you for the compliments!
vikraminside - We will look into it, thank you!
Love this app. Would material designing took long?
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Tried with my soshphone 4g and my note 8.0, i just discovered again my music, it's incredible, the sound is richer, deeper and seems less "flat" even with a mid range JVC.
I have only one bug, i sometimes have hiccups on both device when the screen is off.
Great app !!!
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I have one question. How to know whether the 432khz is on or off? I heard the changes but i just don't know it is on of off.
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I would like to know too. The word bypass confused me
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I have one question. How to know whether the 432khz is on or off? I heard the changes but i just don't know it is on of off.
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@BigiD16
For both of above posts, just click on bottom right "bypass" feature. Use headphones. You will clearly hear/notice difference in pitch. That is the beauty of this player.
The on/off is highlighted by the glow by the way. Like "On Air" button on tv stations by the way.
Basically quicktime player in my windows pc had pitch modify to various levels. This player paves the way for best frequency if we are confused.
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When I try to start playing musing it crashes (note 3 lollipop)
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Love this app. Would material designing took long?
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-Not Long, but it will get there in the near future
lilraven974 said:
Tried with my soshphone 4g and my note 8.0, i just discovered again my music, it's incredible, the sound is richer, deeper and seems less "flat" even with a mid range JVC.
I have only one bug, i sometimes have hiccups on both device when the screen is off.
Great app !!!
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-lilraven974, I have seen your review, tthank you!
The hiccups are because of memory overload in some devices, it's because the shifting is performed in realtime..
We are working on ways to get it even better!
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I have one question. How to know whether the 432khz is on or off? I heard the changes but i just don't know it is on of off.
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-As vikraminside said.
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I would like to know too. The word bypass confused me
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-As vikraminside said.
vikraminside said:
@BigiD16
For both of above posts, just click on bottom right "bypass" feature. Use headphones. You will clearly hear/notice difference in pitch. That is the beauty of this player.
The on/off is highlighted by the glow by the way. Like "On Air" button on tv stations by the way.
Basically quicktime player in my windows pc had pitch modify to various levels. This player paves the way for best frequency if we are confused.
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-vikraminside, Thank you for explaining! Hope you enjoy it
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When I try to start playing musing it crashes (note 3 lollipop)
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-Mroczny3, are you using the latest version? (1.8)
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Mroczny3, are you using the latest version? (1.8)
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Yes. I downloaded newest version from play store and it is 1.8
Mroczny3 said:
Yes. I downloaded newest version from play store and it is 1.8
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Please write down you Android device model and android os version, so we could find and fix the problem ASAP.:angel: