Hi all,
Just upgraded from an Exhibit 4g to a Blaze and its a nice bump. One issue with the Exhibit was ram memory running low. The Blaze is suppsed to have 1GB but it shows only 772MB in task manager and a memory program app as well.
Is this normal, or else what is going on?
Thx!
AdvantageGuy said:
Hi all,
Just upgraded from an Exhibit 4g to a Blaze and its a nice bump. One issue with the Exhibit was ram memory running low. The Blaze is suppsed to have 1GB but it shows only 772MB in task manager and a memory program app as well.
Is this normal, or else what is going on?
Thx!
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It's normal. It's 1gb minus system resources (gpu, OS, etc..). Most phones that have 1gb show 700-800mb available, and 200-500 free, depending on apps/usage.
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I've got myself a HTC Sensation XE.
Specs for the phone was stated 6GB Total but i believe it was partition for user usage on 1GB+
How can I fully utilise the whole capacity or to repartition to 3gb for usage.
The next issue i found out was that the memory was stated 768MB of Ram installed however it seems like HTC itself already used up 400-500mb+
Any Help? Sorry for my poor english.
jnomeo said:
I've got myself a HTC Sensation XE.
Specs for the phone was stated 6GB Total but i believe it was partition for user usage on 1GB+
How can I fully utilise the whole capacity or to repartition to 3gb for usage.
The next issue i found out was that the memory was stated 768MB of Ram installed however it seems like HTC itself already used up 400-500mb+
Any Help? Sorry for my poor english.
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Hi,
I really do not think there is any problem with the 1GB of internal space.
That is plenty of space for normal operation of the phone.
Similarly, there is no problem with the amount of RAM you have to play with.
If you are worried,you can use a program like ROM CLEANER to clear out all the crap you do not want to run BEFORE you install the ROM.
I just got the transformer this week and noticed today that my task manager only shows 728mb of available memory. Shouldn't there be 1024mb available? Is some of it dedicated to the OS or something?
johnnycr said:
I just got the transformer this week and noticed today that my task manager only shows 728mb of available memory. Shouldn't there be 1024mb available? Is some of it dedicated to the OS or something?
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yes we do have 1024mb and yes some its towards the os.. you will Never get the full available space of anything...
Example: 16gb card will only get to use 14.9gb of available space..
johnnycr said:
I just got the transformer this week and noticed today that my task manager only shows 728mb of available memory. Shouldn't there be 1024mb available? Is some of it dedicated to the OS or something?
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256 meg for dedicated graphics.
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Thanks for the replies. I figured that was the case but I guess I was surprised by how much of the memory was dedicated. It seems like I have more memory available on my evo.
johnnycr said:
Thanks for the replies. I figured that was the case but I guess I was surprised by how much of the memory was dedicated. It seems like I have more memory available on my evo.
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Your evo is'nt pushing 1280x800 pixels, though, so it probably does have more RAM available. Unix-like systems also cache a lot of things to try and make the best use of RAM. On a good Linux system there should only be enough free and unused RAM to launch a new process. You want your system to make use of all the RAM it has.
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I have a 7" Galaxy Tab 2 and my understanding was that it has a Gig of RAM, but all my task management apps report a max of just under 700 megs of RAM. I know some is probably locked and reserved for the system but that seems like a lot... Anyone know where the rest has gone?
titanshadow said:
I have a 7" Galaxy Tab 2 and my understanding was that it has a Gig of RAM, but all my task management apps report a max of just under 700 megs of RAM. I know some is probably locked and reserved for the system but that seems like a lot... Anyone know where the rest has gone?
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As you said, it's reserved for system, but if you find too much RAM used, you can click the clear memory button in task manager.
I was wondering the same thing for awhile I thought it was an issue with my tab because on stock my performance was vile compared to how I thought it should perform. Rooted it and flashed today and there is definately an improvement in my benchmarks.
titanshadow said:
I have a 7" Galaxy Tab 2 and my understanding was that it has a Gig of RAM, but all my task management apps report a max of just under 700 megs of RAM. I know some is probably locked and reserved for the system but that seems like a lot... Anyone know where the rest has gone?
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That sounds about right to me. The default system on a lot of devices uses more RAM than you would think. Flashing to a custom rom will definitely help with that. I flashed mine to CM9 last night and I noticed a big difference in performance. I like it even more now.
I think this is a common thing for all things stock android... my JB (4.1.1) Galaxy Nexus phone (takju build) does the same thing... quite annoying really.
1gbyte but as i know the kernel reserves some memory for system use
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batkinson001 said:
I think this is a common thing for all things stock android... my JB (4.1.1) Galaxy Nexus phone (takju build) does the same thing... quite annoying really.
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What's the difference if it doesn't show you system reserved RAM, or it shows it to you, but it's always fully used?
imnuts said:
What's the difference if it doesn't show you system reserved RAM, or it shows it to you, but it's always fully used?
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it would be nice if they would put a notification or something to indicate this in the menu area as most will not know where their ram went & probably complain about false advertising or something.
I am wondering if anyone of you feel suspicious about RAM consumption on android?
Here is an example:
Galaxy tab 2 7" listed with 1GB RAM, but when viewed with stock task manager in RAM manager section, the RAM available is not 1GB, but rather on some 687MB. Furthermore, from that 687MB there is some already used by apps. Even on newly bought device with no open apps, the amount of used RAM is around 200MB, so that leaves only approx 487MB left. Even after using task killers, there is still hundreds of MB used RAM
When I search for why the RAM is not 1GB, people answer its because its reserved by android.
When I search for why there are used RAM when there is no open apps and on newly bought device, people also answer its because its used by android.
So I would categorize the problem as "the missing RAM" and "the used RAM" and ask these question:
1. If the "missing RAM" is reserved by android, then what is using the "used RAM"?
2. If the "used RAM" is used by android, then what is causing the "missing RAM"?
Does that means android double use the RAM? or is it something else?
Please enlighten me.
Great question, and I have been wondering the same thing. :thumbup:
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The problem with me is somewhat like you i found with stock rom that have alot of bloatware that i have about 680 mb after installing cm10 which do not have bloatware at all the same amount of memory is found !!!!
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It's easy in the world of IT 1gb is never 1024mb its 1,000mb in most cases(You can actually see your computers harddrive where they say 500gb = 500,000MB)(but it will probably maximum 998)Why? in the factory where these are made they cannot achieve 100% "capability" And where is the missing 300mb? its reserved for the ACTUAL Android system.In the task killers you can see that there are some apps running(samsung touchwiz,system-apps(not google) Which MAINTAIN the system ,and you can also see that the google apps and some other(fb,twitter etc which needs to check the intertnet to get notification etc are running too.Now to increase the ram you can install a custom rom/kernel to remove somethings(for e.g touchwiz) to get more RAM.
Now dont take these notes to serious I'm not working in these factories,places where they do this.But this is MY theory.
Tab2 should have 1 gb ram right
Galaxy s2 should also have 1 gb ram right
So why the hell when i install cm in both ram in s2 is 827 mb and in tab2 is 687 mb it is driving me mad !!!
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PX7 said:
It's easy in the world of IT 1gb is never 1024mb its 1,000mb in most cases(You can actually see your computers harddrive where they say 500gb = 500,000MB)(but it will probably maximum 998)Why? in the factory where these are made they cannot achieve 100% "capability" And where is the missing 300mb? its reserved for the ACTUAL Android system.In the task killers you can see that there are some apps running(samsung touchwiz,system-apps(not google) Which MAINTAIN the system ,and you can also see that the google apps and some other(fb,twitter etc which needs to check the intertnet to get notification etc are running too.Now to increase the ram you can install a custom rom/kernel to remove somethings(for e.g touchwiz) to get more RAM.
Now dont take these notes to serious I'm not working in these factories,places where they do this.But this is MY theory.
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I do realize 1GB is not 1024MB, but at least task manager should show something around 900MB like you said.
For the Touchwiz theory, I also think that it might be the culprit of the "used RAM", but i don't think it would be that much, but that's because I'm not including google apps on that. So i think your theory might be right.
Selim already answer the "missing RAM" part, it is the same amount on custom ROM, which means they DO reserved by android. And that leads to how much is the "used RAM" part, is it more "sensible" without the bloatware running around?
Mohamedselim said:
The problem with me is somewhat like you i found with stock rom that have alot of bloatware that i have about 680 mb after installing cm10 which do not have bloatware at all the same amount of memory is found !!!!
Tab2 should have 1 gb ram right
Galaxy s2 should also have 1 gb ram right
So why the hell when i install cm in both ram in s2 is 827 mb and in tab2 is 687 mb it is driving me mad !!!
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[URL="http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care"]Read this and chill out
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There are settings (in Android we call them "minfree" settings) to tell the system how much RAM to leave free and available, but the rest is designed to fill up as fast as possible and stay that way.
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For most android devices, the true available RAM is always less than the stated figure, like GT2 has only 687MB, HTC One X has 976MB even both devices has 1GB RAM
Those missing RAM are not stolen, instead they are reserved by the kernel for hardware of the devices. Don't blame anyone for this, this is crucial.
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Read this and chill out
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That is an interesting concept of memory management.
FYI, I'm not freaked out, just wondering where the memory goes, is it effectively used or eaten by some "rouge" apps.
Thanks anyway
However my Galaxy Tab plus with ics had about 800 mb ram in the task manager. Now (yes, my gtab plus has been stolen... grr) I have the tab 2 and I see only 687. Really strange, don't you think?
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RAM HELP
can someone who has well experienced with different ROMS for tab2 7.0(p3100) help me??
i originally had ICS 4.0.4 which displayed around 680 MB ram, then upgraded it to 4.1.2 jelly bean which displayed me 770 MB RAM.
i though as custom ROMS have seldom bloatwares, atleast they should display more memory, but to my surprise i found 691 MB RAM on the latest nightly build of Cyanogenmod 10.1(jelly bean 4.2). I ve not used the AOKP jelly bean ROM due to limited internet(downloading) at my place.
as i am having a LIMITED FREE INTERNET USAGE, i am not dowloading more ROMS until some one finally helps me with the fact that
"WHICH ROM DISPLAYS MORE MEMORY FOR TAB 2 P3100??????" so that i can download it the next month or via some other network
I don't think you for it, the missing ram is the system. The tab has 1 gig to start, but whennyou fire it up, the system has to use resources. The same way a computer says it has 2 gigs, but if you check, it is lower. The reason this changes from rom to rom is because each system has its own ram management. Does this help?
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Here in Canada , we only have access to the 1GB RAM version unfortunate. Anyone using this one have performance problems? Is it slow and lagging?
I believe the same apps are installed on both versions, so I can help you figure this out by analyzing the "running apps" memory usage on my phone (the 2GB one). Bear in mind that I'm using a dual sim variant and that my 3G data connection is enabled on the first sim and I have Whatsapp installed and running on my phone. So, here it goes:
Right now it shows that the system is using 375MB of RAM, the App 349MB and there are 1.2GB of RAM free.
So, if your usage is similar to mine, you should be left with 200MB of RAM free on your system, which, to me, equals a sluggish performance on any Android phone!
Hope That Helped!
No single lag here! I'm really excited with it,totally worth buying also no heat issue's at all.
400 MB free ram using the xt1540 1g version form koodo carrier running pure stock with some apps disabled.
Guest mode????
Do u guys have guest mode available on canadian version,guest mode not available in indian version ,i am using moto g32015 16gb/2gbversion