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I changed from a SE p1i to a HTC Touch Pro. In terms of phone easiness and functionalities I lost a lot but in terms of HW I though I gained a lot. However I started to realise that although it has HSDPA and HSUPA the internet over 3G was very, very slow. I sent it to repair and come exactly the same. The best speed I can get is 61Kbps DL when 3G provides 384Kbps and HSDPA 7.2Mbps. Since the latency is very very high, I cannot get the complete rendering of a complex page if the http server gives time-out too early. Using the PC with the VPN is a nightmare.
A friend of mine that is a radio engineer in Nokia told me that this is a "well know problem of Windows Mobile that cannot cipher/decipher the 3G radio packets in real time". I searched on the internet and couldn't find nothing however I tried several HTC and Samsung phones with Windows Mobile, on several operators and countries and all are very very slow. And comparing them with the SE pi1 that worked like a clock... until it broke :-D
Henrique
I think you will find you are getting 61 kiloBYTES per second which equates to 488 Kbps, I use it with VPN and it's great, how are you connecting your PC to your phone, hopefully not via internet connection sharing or it will fail the VPN security check and boot you off quickly
Hi Everyone,
I too was noticing speed issues and they are for sure there. People on these boards have been seeing upto 2Mbit downloads speeds so it can be done. As my sig shows I got 1.7Mbit with 1-2 "H" bars.
I loaded a new radio on mine and that seemed to almost double my bandwidth, I was using the standard .32 radio and was getting around 600 to 700Kbit and then switched to the .28 radio and was getting 1100 to 1300Kbit. Only do your speed tests by tether unless you feel you have a good mobile website to do your testing. I was using www.dslreports.com/mspeed but the results are junk, theirs servers are not able to supply enough bandwidth for a good test.
Secondly I installed a new ROM, specifically I am using NATF's 2.3. This will make the phone way faster in terms of performance. It also allows me to tether via the USB and use my VPN without any problems.
I have an AT&T data card for my laptop (it's a work thing) and I get equal coverage/speed on the fuze as I do on this dedicated device, that is without the radio change that is.
Give the above items a try, the information for making the changes can be found in the ROM development area
Thanks All
Thanks for the feedback guys.
I used GoToMyHelp.com to make the test and provide me the results in both Kbps and KBps... 7.6KBps they said... GPRS speed.
With 3G only the results vary from 17Kbps to 60Kbps, when I turn HSDPA on I always get 61Kbps... looks like the phone cannot handle more than one major WCDMA code with the most robust and slowest modulation code...
But if people reported higher speeds then it means I really have an HW problem and so I have to insist with the service centre... I guess...
Henrique
But...
Although from the comments received looks like the problem is more acute on my device I tried a Samsung with Windos Mobile 6.1 and it is as slow as mine... I think it is too much coincidence.
Does anyone has any information regarding the so called "well known limitation of the cipher/deciphering in real time of windows mobile?
Thanks for any feedback...
Henrique
i get from 800kpb - 1000
never tested upload.
is tehre another test?
I only trust speedtest.net through a hardline tether (not bt) for speed test results. This moves as much processing power as possible from the phone to a full fledged computer, reducing such variables as screen drawing speed, free memory, cpu utilization, etc.
I find the fuze to perform almost exactly in line with my 881u (best speed ive seen on that is just over 2400 down, 900 up) - the only discernable difference is latency, slightly better on 881u (which is to be expected as there isnt ICS running as a proxy in such a situation)
As to the fastest speed you'll see on the device itself, I have not been able to clock over 1700 on speedtest.net running in flash lite 3.1 in opera mobile on my wifi, where i score 5500+ on the computer, so i think testing via phone's browser is not a very good measurement.
I don't know, I just switched my Settings > Phone > Band to GSM to see if it saves substantial battery, opposed to the 3G and even further "H" icon HSxPA I was using before.
The "E" icon GSM-Edge doesn't seem to slow down my Google Maps updates very much.
Thanks
Thank you all for sharing your experience.
The tests I made were using the phone as a modem via USB, so the processing on the phone was at a minimum.
The site I indicated before, GoToMyHelp.com, is used by a Firefox extension I have. After trying several sites this was the one that always gave me the best perceptible match between the browsing experience and the measured figures...
Now comes the hard part to convince the customer services that the phone has problems...
Henrique
I think I have the same problem. I am getting crazy low speeds on G and H, 30Kbit/sec and 60 Kbit/sec respectively. I have tried various tweaks found on the forums, I've flashed a couple of cooked roms and various radios but can't get it any higher. I've tried the SIM in the wifes iphone so I am sure that it's not a problem with that.
Let us know how you get on, are you going to call HTC direct or go through the company you bought it from?
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I think I have the same problem. I am getting crazy low speeds on G and H, 30Kbit/sec and 60 Kbit/sec respectively. I have tried various tweaks found on the forums, I've flashed a couple of cooked roms and various radios but can't get it any higher. I've tried the SIM in the wifes iphone so I am sure that it's not a problem with that.
Let us know how you get on, are you going to call HTC direct or go through the company you bought it from?
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im getting 820kb/s in a suburaban area. It works great. Did you enable HSPDA. AT&T turns HSPDA by default (probobly to save bandwidth). All you have to do is fix it...im not sure how search the forum. I am using DA_G Clean fuze rom and it has it built into the ROM
OMG i just tethered my PC and I got some crazy speeds
And that was the lowest one. It went all the way up to 1900..obviously it flutuates a lot but it is still leveling off around 15k....which is crazy because I only have TWO bars!
this is my home
Its crazy that my phone gets speeds half as fast as my DSL and it only has two bars and im in the suburbs!
i tried iphonespeedtest.com on 1.07 proven and got about 400 at highest
tried it when i used his 1.08 i got 1200 kbps
its sick
Northern VA area
Is it possible that while tethered the phone is capable of more data throughput that isn't possible while browsing on the phone? Similar to the problem of encrypted WiFi being slow due to the processor load of encrypting and decrypting data.
From a technical standpoint when you're tethered all the phone does is pass data from the 3G connection to the USB port. The only processing needed is basic lower level networking to re-address the data packets to a new port, thus the processor has a low load and can dedicate more cycles to simply moving data. The phone can focus all of it's power on getting the fastest connection with the 3G tower.
But when you browse on the phone the processor needs to terminate the data packet and unload it into a program. On top of that even more processor power goes towards running the program itself that is using the data. Since the processor is busy multitasking by running a program, terminating data packets, and trying to maintain a connection with the 3G tower, it's more likely to drop packets or lose it's connection.
This would also explain why you lose that weak 3G connection and drop to EDGE when you open a program that has high processor demands.
My speeds never go higher than 300 kbps on my Fuze, my Tilt, or BJ. Ive switched radios, ROMS, and sim cards but my speed continues to suck. The only other thing I can think of is that my speed is being limited. Does anyone know if they throttle speeds?
AT&T does not throttle download speeds. What you're experiencing is more than likely due to poor 3G reception in your area or an edge connection. Does your phone show a "3G" icon or an "E" icon?
If it is an E icon, you are connecting to EDGE, which means you probably won't get anything faster. If it says 3G, you've got a poor 3G connection and your area. Either way, there's not really anything you can do about it, unfortunately.
Sorry.
It doesnt matter what my location is. I live in NYC and have 3 - 5 bars of HSDPA everywhere I go. Turning off HSDPA and using 3g doesnt help either.
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It doesnt matter what my location is. I live in NYC and have 3 - 5 bars of HSDPA everywhere I go. Turning off HSDPA and using 3g doesnt help either.
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AT&T's 3G <i>is</i> HSDPA. By turning off HSDPA you're effectively disabling 3G. Keep HSDPA enabled and you should be all right.
Though you have a Touch Pro 2, which is a European model, and therefore not compatible with US 3G. The fix should work with a US Touch Pro, however.
Im using a Fuze. I plan on getting a TP2 when it (eventually) comes out. HSDPA and 3G are not the same. Enabling or disabling HSDPA disables HSDPA only and not 3G. Ive had the phone since November (and a tilt tweaked the ef out as well) and have done every tweak you could think of to it so Im not some dumb noob.
When youre used to getting pretty decent speeds (1000kbps-1500kbps) and all of a sudden cant even reach 350kbps regardless of device and location it makes you wonder wtf is going on.
i live in nyc myself and i think something is up with att network and they just not telling us cuz my speed do sometimes just decrease to crap randomly and sometimes it doesnt work at all period but thats very rare, sometimes annoying
Manhattan here. Can affirm the same. Used to be able to get over 2mbps on my Tilt. Now I'm impressed if I clear 800k at night. And during business hours the network is too slow to listen to a Sirius stream. Sometimes in edge territory and I too am no noob and have tried so many things I made a damn website about it.
I believe att is engaging in some kind of throttling or shaping or they are simply short on bandwidth, at least in our neighborhood, based on extensive testing, the biggest clues being better performance the further away from business hours. And the situation appears to be getting steadily worse. Put it this way, several months ago I wasn't experimenting with header compression and packet MTU sizes just to listen to Howard. Now I have to go with the low bandwidth stream.
Not cool, at&t, step your game up. We're noticing.
In addition to testing all the different radios and different devices I've used a variety of testing methods, reliable ones, and I even paid up for the isp.cingular wap which ain't better at the moment.
HSDPA is a type of 3G connection. It's the kind AT&T uses for their network.
To quote from AT&T's website:
"The AT&T 3G network uses HSDPA/UMTS technology (High Speed Downlink Packet Access/Universal Mobile Telephone System), which makes it possible to enjoy a variety of feature-rich wireless services. It also gives AT&T the advantage of offering simultaneous voice and data services. That means you can talk and use the Internet at the same time. How's that for multitasking?"
To use 3G on AT&T, you must have HSDPA enabled. As for your signal crapping out like that, what's probably happening is just a network bog down. In major metros, when a lot of people are connecting, it can cause speeds all around to drop. It's just the nature of cellular technology.
And I'm not out of my element, btw. I work for AT&T.
xxbadsushixx, I hope you are right. This would only go to prove the whole, post count shows how smart you are, theory that everyone seems to have.
but to not make a useless post: I also believe that it has to do with where you live, and whether you are in a metro or rural area. Here in Orlando, if I am downtown on a friday night, 700+k is rare. When I get to my house 1000+k is easy.
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xxbadsushixx, I hope you are right. This would only go to prove the whole, post count shows how smart you are, theory that everyone seems to have.
but to not make a useless post: I also believe that it has to do with where you live, and whether you are in a metro or rural area. Here in Orlando, if I am downtown on a friday night, 700+k is rare. When I get to my house 1000+k is easy.
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That's normal. I actually had the same issue, and customer complaints about it. I did some research, and it basically comes down to a single tower has a set bandwith. Lets pretend a tower has a max connection of 50mbps. if 50 people connect to it, they're pulling 1mbps each. if 100 people connect, they're pulling 500kbps each. It all comes down to what kind of load the tower can handle. If a tower gets too bogged down, it can hand off excess connections to another nearby tower, but if a single area has a significant number of connections, everyone suffers.
Think of it as going into a crowded coffee shop and everyone is using the wifi. Too many people connecting and using it at once, speed drops. That's almost exactly what's happening now to you guys.
For the record, my connection pulls about 500kbps at work, but at home almost 1.5mbps at home.
HSDPA and 3G ARE NOT the same..HSDPA is in essence 3.5 G..look it up and test it out..use the disable hsdpa regedit or use advanced config...and disable HSDPA..youl notice you wont (well in the past before speeeds went down the drain) get above 600kbps but enable HSDPA and you would hit iver 1mb..so they are different in every way...also this isnt att throttling..this all happened with the iphone 3g came out..i noticed the day it came out and the only time id get back full bandwidth (over 1mb) was at 4 am lol..sooo thank the iphone 3g users for stealing our bandwidth and soon att will push out 4g which will be wimax i think...but hsdpa is upto 7.5mbps even though att hasnt utilized the protocols speed capabilities because they need to upgrade all their towersbut they are only utilizing 3.5mb hspda right now
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That's normal. I actually had the same issue, and customer complaints about it. I did some research, and it basically comes down to a single tower has a set bandwith. Lets pretend a tower has a max connection of 50mbps. if 50 people connect to it, they're pulling 1mbps each. if 100 people connect, they're pulling 500kbps each. It all comes down to what kind of load the tower can handle. If a tower gets too bogged down, it can hand off excess connections to another nearby tower, but if a single area has a significant number of connections, everyone suffers.
Think of it as going into a crowded coffee shop and everyone is using the wifi. Too many people connecting and using it at once, speed drops. That's almost exactly what's happening now to you guys.
For the record, my connection pulls about 500kbps at work, but at home almost 1.5mbps at home.
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If that was the case I wouldn't be so upset but its not. For example I was in a part of the city I don't usually hang around last night and opened up google maps (in a very drunk stupor) I had to wait an unacceptably long time for it find a route and load up the images. Granted it was NYC but it was also 4AM(!). Just how many iPhone users are chewing through data at 4am?
I believe att throttles 3g. My fuze has never produced a d/l speed above 350-450. Placing same sim in n-95-3 shows 1400 in the same location. Just my observation. Can't prove it. But I believe it.
u guys are confusing hsupa with HSPDA with HSUPA they are different,
HSUPA is faster than HSPDA, wich is the same as 3g
Unlocking the HSUPA is makes the connection noticeablly faster.. It is disabled by default on the FUZE
wiki it up if u need to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Packet_Access
lol hsupa IS FOR uplink ONLY hence the U instead of a D..same as uoploading..so yes web pages may load faster but speed tests and downloads will show nop change in downlink speed
You are all crazy
3G is UMTS...max speed of 384 if I remeber correctly.
3G can also be HSDPA if enabled in your area. Currently I believe this to be capped on phones at 1.2 and on laptop cards at 1.6. This also might change is you use isp.cingular...the tower may think you are a laptop card.
Think of the two HSxPA protocols as tower based upload/download compression algorithms for UMTS and you'll pretty much have a grasp of it. While not strictly correct in the truest sense of the definition, using this analogy will help understand 3G and 3.5G.
If you have no HSxPA, but a 3G connection then your raphael displays 3G all the time. HSDPA only enabled is indicated by an "H" icon appearing when your device is actually downloading data. Both HSDPA and HSUPA will be shown by a constant "H" being displayed.
AT&T's network works just fine with these protocols turned off.
Hi all,
Wonder if any of you have bad reception with WiFi? I have an extended range router that allows me to get full bars on wifi even at the far reaches of my yard (about 300 feet) when i had the Atrix and the Inspire. Now with the infuse, as soon as I leave the indoors and step outside my signal bars drop to 2 or 3 and gets worse very quickly as I walk away from the house. Is this a bad radio, bad phone or am I just asking to much?
Thanks
The radio is kind of craptastic
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im like 30 feet away from my router and i have just the little dot most of the time...
Yep mines suck too.. I thought i was the only one that noticed that noticed
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Yes its weak. I'm only 5 feet away from my wireless n router and it flucuates between 4 and 5. sometimes it feels like touching the sides of the phone degrade the signal. I'm on my 3rd infuse and it has the same issue but this one seems to having better reception. again im only 5 feet from my router and non of my other wifi devices haves less then 5 bars. also testing the infuse at att vs other phones the infuse always had less bars for wifi.
Hopefully a radio update will help with this in the future. It's virtually the same hardware that's in many phones. The antenna array shape or location may have something to do with it, though. I'm guessing it's in the "chin" somewhere.
EDIT:
What a coincidence! I just got the update pushed to my phone from AT&T, and the new baseband FIXED my poor wifi reception.
Thanks AT&T / Samsung / Engineers!
tankmorph said:
Hopefully a radio update will help with this in the future. It's virtually the same hardware that's in many phones. The antenna array shape or location may have something to do with it, though. I'm guessing it's in the "chin" somewhere.
EDIT:
What a coincidence! I just got the update pushed to my phone from AT&T, and the new baseband FIXED my poor wifi reception.
Thanks AT&T / Samsung / Engineers!
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I have two Infuse 4G units with same wifi problem. no wifi signal where I can watch youtube with blackberry curve and iphone 3 . talked to ATT tech support. no newer version of baseband. talked to samsung tech support and tried soft reset and hard reset. no improvements. should I just return them or try to fix the problem?
I get a wifi signal in all 3 stories of my house.
Get wifi analyzer from the market and see what channel is strongest for your router/phone. Switch the router to that channel (it'll probably have the least amount of competing signals), and reconnect.
apallohadas said:
I get a wifi signal in all 3 stories of my house.
Get wifi analyzer from the market and see what channel is strongest for your router/phone. Switch the router to that channel (it'll probably have the least amount of competing signals), and reconnect.
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+1
& bars usually dont mean much i usually have 65mbps connection no matter what the bars say
My wifie provides good reception. Sometimes I lose connection to my wifie even though she is sending strong signals...but usually after dinner out, maybe some flowers, I can reconnect.
I have no problems with my wifie.
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My wifie provides good reception. Sometimes I lose connection to my wifie even though she is sending strong signals...but usually after dinner out, maybe some flowers, I can reconnect.
I have no problems with my wifie.
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Depnds on the day
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andrawer said:
My wifie provides good reception. Sometimes I lose connection to my wifie even though she is sending strong signals...but usually after dinner out, maybe some flowers, I can reconnect.
I have no problems with my wifie.
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Thats funny
Mine is pretty shotty as well. Granted, even if I have 1 "bar" my speed is fine, I can't get a signal about 40 feet outside my house (about 100 feet total from my router).. My Inspire couldn't get signal there, either, but even being side by side with my wifes iphone 4 she gets 3 bars of signal from that same spot. Maybe it's an Android issue? It's not a big deal, as I'm in a "4G" area and speeds are good enough, but I just thought i'd share that I have the same issue.
Still the best phone i've ever owned, as a whole.
Did you try what I recommended in This post?
apallohadas said:
I get a wifi signal in all 3 stories of my house.
Get wifi analyzer from the market and see what channel is strongest for your router/phone. Switch the router to that channel (it'll probably have the least amount of competing signals), and reconnect.
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How do you change the channels on your router?
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How do you change the channels on your router?
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If you tell me the model of your router I can give you specific details, but the short version is that you go into the setup page for your router (where you set your security settings and all that), and probably under the wireless page you should see settings for channel, country, etc. For my old netgear router the default was 6 I believe.
Before I changed channels, I used the wifi analysis tool and saw that there were 4 other wireless networks on that same channel. Changing to another channel helped quite a bit.
Mine is really crappy too. I would say pathetic and non usable most of the time.
I go to the local airport and to any restaurant that has free wifi and my blackberry get a full signal while this Infuse does not see anything. At home is only goes about 35 feet away from the router. Me telling hotspots to change their channel is noit a viable option. I wish I knew this before buying this phone.
I see this post (see below) and wonder if there is a ROM with this fix already in it. I am running CatyRom but I have tried all the other roms like CYM, Miui and so forth and the poor signal is the same.
EDIT:
What a coincidence! I just got the update pushed to my phone from AT&T, and the new baseband FIXED my poor wifi reception.
Thanks AT&T / Samsung / Engineers!
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not an android issue, its phone specific but there may be many phones with the same shortcomming. wifi reception was way better on the captivate (I wish I still had that thing). but the infuse doesn't cause me any problems.
switching channels at home can't hurt. most routers are on channel 6 by default so it probably has many competing signals. not too much you can do if you are out and about though.
Hello there,
i know that this topic has been already debated several times but I couldn't find any solution to it.
I'm running MIUI 1.8.19, android version 2.3.5, kernel version 2.6.35.7-g3cc95e3, baseband I9023XXKB3.
Wifi signal is extremely weak, few meters away from any router and the connection becomes extremely unstable making the wifi experience a total nightmare.
I've been previously tried NSCollab and also different baseband configuration files but nothing seems to get things better.
For what is worth (even though the wifi is bad anywhere and with any router) my router is a Linksys WRT150N running on DD-WRT.
The Nexus S wifi thing seems to be a little bit controversial. Some users seem having no problem with it, some other experience the same problems i do.
Question #1: is that a hardware, software or both kind of problem?
question #2 : is there any workaround that would allow me at least to comfortably browse the internet from my bedroom (5-6 mts away from my router) without getting disconnected every other 30 sec?
Thank you in advance,
D.
You kept a phone that can't hold a wifi connection over a distance of 5m? I'd have returned it on day 1.
It's normal that the distance of WIFI on smartphones is less than say a laptop or pc, but 5m is definitly not normal.
Verify w/ other wifi networks, same problem = return it. If not, bad luck, might be the combination of your phone + the router not working properly.
You can try changing radios to see of that improves your situation, for some it did.
Yes, it is normal having a weaker wi-fi but my blackberry has no problem at all. it is the nexus and it seems to be quite a widespread problem around the globe.
Well i was abroad on business and couldnt return it. Just looking for clues....
I know that netarchy's kernel uses updated wifi drivers, you can try flashing that and see if it does anything.
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Hi there,
i tried several kernels: netarchy, matrix and also installed MIUI and also tried the MIUI Brainmaster ROM. Same result: in my bedroom the wifi signal score a miserable -85/90 db. Is there any kernel out there optimized for wifi? I mean, it seems that the wifi weakness on the nexus S is a common problem.
Thank you in advance.
It sounds as though you have a hardware problem or a router problem. I have to go to a room in the other side of my house to get -90 db and even then it doesn't disconnect. I have to get about 200 feet away before it disconnects.
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Also it might have something to do with interference on whatever channel you are connecting on but I don't really know enough about wireless networking to help you troubleshoot that.
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What i'm wondering is wheter Samsung uses different wifi chipset on the same phone cause i'm not the only one complaining about it. just google "nexus s weak wifi" and you'll see hundreds of people with the same problem.
still wondering if there's a software solution to it.
caravaggio971 said:
What i'm wondering is wheter Samsung uses different wifi chipset on the same phone cause i'm not the only one complaining about it. just google "nexus s weak wifi" and you'll see hundreds of people with the same problem.
still wondering if there's a software solution to it.
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It has been documented that the Nexus S uses an under powered wifi chip. The chip uses less power but with that comes a weaker signal.
mine seems to be weaker than average...
Yours does seem weaker than normal, but no nexus s has decent wifi range.
What I have done is purchase 2 old linksys wrt54gl routers, have them both loaded up with DD-WRT and then link them (bridged mode or WDS if you prefer) and situate the routers in either end of my house. I have a decent sized 3 bed detached house, with a 70ft garden, I can now get a reliable wifi connection near the end of my garden on my nexus, where as previously I couldnt get to the back door
Might be an old thread, but I just traded my trusty HD2 for a Nexus S and god I hate the WIFI reception on this thing.
I am on stock 2.3.4 Rooted with KD1 radio and 2.6.35.14(Pete's) kernel. Tried just about anything out there, and nothing worked out.
Being a Pure Google experience phone, I was expecting a lot more happening for this phone, but it seems that my 2009 released HD2 was way better for all it had to offer.
Subscribing to this thread!
WIFI is fine for me, same as with HTC Desire, and stronger than iPhone 3G...
Its terrible on my Sprint Nexus.
Where I have an Ipod touch and a LG Optimus, they get an 'excellent' connection anywhere in the house. The Nexus drops the connection all the time, shows a 'poor' 5Mbps connection.
Will swapping the phone do any good?
OK.
I bought my Nexus S yesterday and I was soooo disappointed because of its poor wifi reception... But...
I am a network Administrator and a few minutes ago i just couldn't beleive that about 10 meters away from our Cisco Antennas i had about 89db signal so i started playing... and guess what i now have 55dbs at the same spot! What i found out is that Nexus S doesn't work well with High Frequencies so I disabled channels 8-13 and my AP had to work on the low channels and BAM! everything works fine now (My phone is in stock FW)
I hope I helped
Gorbi_gr said:
OK.
I bought my Nexus S yesterday and I was soooo disappointed because of its poor wifi reception... But...
I am a network Administrator and a few minutes ago i just couldn't beleive that about 10 meters away from our Cisco Antennas i had about 89db signal so i started playing... and guess what i now have 55dbs at the same spot! What i found out is that Nexus S doesn't work well with High Frequencies so I disabled channels 8-13 and my AP had to work on the low channels and BAM! everything works fine now (My phone is in stock FW)
I hope I helped
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Awesome tip! Thank you so much
I found this channel number which it uses to make no difference to the wifi performance.
I tried channels 1,6,11, no difference.
The phone just has poor wifi.
As a note, usually I don't use the low channel '1', as this gets interference from microwaves more than the upper channels.
just bought a Nexus and and experiencing heavy wifi issues.
I tried changing AP channel but doesn't fix.
Testing signal strenght with a LG Optimus one for comparison:
1- LG: -72db. stable
2- Nexus S: -85db web pages loading fails quite often.
Tomorrow my NS will return to the store. Bye Bye
After being connected to WiFi for a while the wifi speeds drop to less than a quarter of their normal speeds, e.g. at home 6 Mbps drops to 1.4 Mbps. It is the same at work connecting to an enterprise level AP (although speed drop is 30 Mbps to about 5 so less of a problem).
I know it is device related as other devices tested at the same time are at the right speed.
Toggling WiFi off then on again returns everything to normal speed. Anyone else?
It's like it reverts to power saving mode. Didn't have this problem with my 4 or current N7.
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After being connected to WiFi for a while the wifi speeds drop to less than a quarter of their normal speeds, e.g. at home 6 Mbps drops to 1.4 Mbps. It is the same at work connecting to an enterprise level AP (although speed drop is 30 Mbps to about 5 so less of a problem).
I know it is device related as other devices tested at the same time are at the right speed.
Toggling WiFi off then on again returns everything to normal speed. Anyone else?
It's like it reverts to power saving mode. Didn't have this problem with my 4 or current N7.
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I haven't had your issue and I've been speed testing here and there all day.
Have you tried turning off wifi optimization under wifi/options?
I have turned that off now and rebooted. I turned this off the other day without rebooting and there was no difference but will see how this goes.
Thanks.
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Made no difference. Got reduced speeds again.
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I had similar problems when my friend connected a Blackberry Z10 to my router, constantly dropping out after about half an hour of connection, so try this:
I found that my at the time SGS2, could only connect in 'g' mode, whereas her BB was connecting in 'n'. I believe this was confusing the crappy B.T. router I have, so I changed the settings of the router to only accept 'g' connections. Problem solved for me.
Worth a try anyway. Especially if the other devices connecting to your router are a bit older and only use a 'g' connection.
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There are no drops in WiFi, it just slows. All my other devices are N too.
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Odd, I don't have this problem. The wifi a runs at full speed even in low signal areas. Maybe it's something to do with the router?
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I have this on my home WiFi with both the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 5. Both are connected to 5GHz 802.11n on a dual-band Netgear N600/WNDR3700.
Performing a test just after boot, the speeds reported by Ookla's speed test app are:
Nexus 4: 46Mbps dl / 12Mbps ul
Nexus 5: 82Mbps dl / 12Mbps ul
After some period of time, the results (recalling from memory) change to:
Nexus 4: 2Mbps dl / 11Mbps ul
Nexus 5: 2Mbps dl / 11Mbps ul
If I switch off WiFi and then switch it back on again, each phone will then return to its previous higher speeds.
Never have figured out exactly what triggers the slow-down; my best guess is that it's something to do with the phone going into deep sleep, or perhaps related to power-saving functions on the router.
A Linux-based laptop is connected to the same AP and I don't notice any issue with that. Don't recall the Nexus 7 having any issues either (though that can only connect to the 2.4GHz radio).
I didn't notice this on my N4, but I never checked, and in retrospect I remember having some problems streaming video when you normally would think the connection would be OK. Will give Google a call.
The problem exists on my home router, an access point I also have in the house (different manufacturer) and at work (different again).
Have tried changing to 2.4 GHz only but no luck.
Thanks.
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People had EXACTLY the same problem when Nexus 10 just came out.
If interested here is the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2124485
Basically, google had to release a fix to solve this problem.
I'm noticing slow WiFi as well on my Nexus 5, with Netgear APs at home.
Also the 4G is weird - here in the UK, upload remains strong but download is slower than other phones running the same speedtest from the same location and a fair bit slower.
Will hold off judgement for now though.
Got an ASUS router at work so gonna test that.
It will not see the 5GHZ band on my Netgear WNDR4500 at all though - then again neither will my Nexus 7 2013
(My Nexus 4 does see the 5GHZ band SSID however then again probably due to different WiFi chipset or something)
DangerMUK said:
I'm noticing slow WiFi as well on my Nexus 5, with Netgear APs at home.
Also the 4G is weird - here in the UK, upload remains strong but download is slower than other phones running the same speedtest from the same location and a fair bit slower.
Will hold off judgement for now though.
Got an ASUS router at work so gonna test that.
It will not see the 5GHZ band on my Netgear WNDR4500 at all though - then again neither will my Nexus 7 2013
(My Nexus 4 does see the 5GHZ band SSID however then again probably due to different WiFi chipset or something)
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Yeah been testing 4G on Vodafone today vs an iPhone 5S - getting consistently slower download speeds in the same locations on the same speedtest servers.
Has anyone else tried using the N5 in and around London on a 10mhz 800 band network (so basically Vodafone or O2)
Also is the 5Ghz 20mhz ? I seem to be getting 70mbit download on a 1000mbit connection
5ghz works on an ASUS router but seems to just be completely absent on Netgear routers (sure its a 20/40/Auto/Band setting somewhere)
Having called Google and tried the suggest factory reset, problem persists so will call again and likely try a replacement.
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Having called Google and tried the suggest factory reset, problem persists so will call again and likely try a replacement.
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I wouldn't bother with RMA.
Same problem was in Nexus 10 when it came out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47178847&postcount=10
A software update fixed it.
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After being connected to WiFi for a while the wifi speeds drop to less than a quarter of their normal speeds, e.g. at home 6 Mbps drops to 1.4 Mbps. It is the same at work connecting to an enterprise level AP (although speed drop is 30 Mbps to about 5 so less of a problem).
I know it is device related as other devices tested at the same time are at the right speed.
Toggling WiFi off then on again returns everything to normal speed. Anyone else?
It's like it reverts to power saving mode. Didn't have this problem with my 4 or current N7.
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i have the same problem. it also affects LTE. both cut down by a third or so after some unknown amount of time.
I don't have access to LTE, so can't comment there. I will be getting a replacement tomorrow and will report back then if it is fixed.
Also keen to see if the battery is any better in the replacement. Reports seem to vary wildly on these forums and in reviews but my finding is that the battery is no better then the N4 battery in any way.
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Have y'all had Android devices in the past? As in, have y'all had Google accounts to which you've backed up your data (e.g. WiFi credentials) that automatically were transferred over to your new device?
I ask this, because I had to do a factory reset and prevented Google from backing up my data and preventing automatic restore (e.g. I unchecked "Back up my data" and "Automatic restore" before I did a factory reset).
There seems to be an issue where the restored WiFi settings don't sit well with the new device, and you have to manually input your WiFi credentials and have the Nexus 5 configure it from anew. It may also help with slow connection speeds and connection issues in general since I found that after I did this, my connection strength increased (qualitatively; I haven't done quantitative analysis) and the range at which it still connects to WiFi has increased.
Here are some links to the issue that I, personally, have run into, but near the end of the second issue tracker, someone has ADB commands that essentially accomplish the same thing (i.e. wiping all stored WiFi data)
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=58230
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=61945
Might be something to try before you send it into RMA (since it will take like, 2-3 weeks to get the replacement phone, and even then it sounds like this is a purely software issue).
EDIT: Note, that unchecking the "Backup data" and "Automatic restore" (I think doing the former will automatically grey out the Automatic restore option anyways) means you will have to reinstall all your applications manually one by one. This is probably easier if you just log onto a computer and have Google Play in a browser to download it to your device.
Furthermore, my specific issue didn't lay with slow WiFi speeds, but rather with the inability for the Nexus 5 to automatically reconnect to a WiFi router once it exited and reentered range. It was also unable to manually connect to the router unless I cycled WiFi or Airplane mode (or reboot the phone).
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Have y'all had Android devices in the past? As in, have y'all had Google accounts to which you've backed up your data (e.g. WiFi credentials) that automatically were transferred over to your new device?
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I always choose not to restore my backed up settings to a new device, and so manually create the WiFi connections. Doesn't appear to make any difference in my case.
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I had a similar question, but I just want to know why I see 72 Mb/s connection in the info, instead of 150 or 300? Asus RT-N66U with Merlin firmware, 802.11n only, 40MHz bandwidth (but also tried 20/40MHz). All computers show 150/270/300 (I know these are just theoretical). My wireless desktop can transfer a file at 10MB/s...the N5 (and a 2012 N7, 2013 N7, GNex, and Nexus S) do about 2MB/s.
I'm having exactly the same issues as t2002 and TheFluffyOne - Just after booting I'll get >10mbps dl but after an hour or two if I run the speedtest app again it will have slowed down to <2mbps. It's horribly frustrating, hopefully it's just a software issue and will be patched soon.