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I thought octa core version will have many roms.
Wrong buy huhu
There is kernel thou.
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Balong020 said:
I thought octa core version will have many roms.
Wrong buy huhu
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2/3 of SGS4's shipped are S-600 and the i9500 is only available in smaller markets without the prospects of LTE. If devs in major markets (EU, US, Asia) have access to LTE it shouldn't be shocking they'd want to own an LTE-capable phone. So it shouldn't be a surprise that Octa has less dev support just based on fewer being sold and the markets it's available in.
Balong020 said:
I thought octa core version will have many roms.
Wrong buy huhu
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Its a New device, with time will have more
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2/3 of SGS4's shipped are S-600 and the i9500 is only available in smaller markets without the prospects of LTE. If devs in major markets (EU, US, Asia) have access to LTE it shouldn't be shocking they'd want to own an LTE-capable phone. So it shouldn't be a surprise that Octa has less dev support just based on fewer being sold and the markets it's available in.
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In terms of non-stock ROMs (CM, AOKP etc.) that's only part of the reason though, and not even the main one. The primary reason for a lack of ROMs is the Exynos chip set and the devs refusing to work with it thanks to Samsung.
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Wait for cm to release something!
Me Gusta!
Me Gusta said:
Wait for cm to release something!
Me Gusta!
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You'll be waiting a long time. So far no maintainers have expressed interest in touching another Exynos device.
There's always the possibility someone new will do the bringup, but so far, it's not likely.
It is normal! Nobody want to devote time and resources to a device that has a defective SoC! Even Samsung have acknowledged that there is a serious flaw in the core switching logic of Exynos 5410 that can't be repaired with a software patch and they have began to build the newer fixed Exynos 5420
I'm a owner of a gt I9505. Flashed a dozen roms already and kernels. Can't decide what I want. So many to pick, just wanted to tell you that.
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I'm a owner of a gt I9505. Flashed a dozen roms already and kernels. Can't decide what I want. So many to pick, just wanted to tell you that.
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Trololololollollolooool
Me Gusta!
Just out of intrest, why do devs hate exynos chipset so much? And HAHA!
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Still we get 6 hours screen on time which is great!! Isn't it??
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for anyone on the fence regarding 9500/9505, I would highly recommend i9505 if you are planning to mod.
There is already an active community of 9505 modders, and is growing daily. However there is no guarantee the issues with the Exynos chip will be resolved in the immediate future.
Any speed/power savings in the 9500 octacore chip are neglibile IMO and with a dearth of frequently updated roms for it, I think the 9505 is the way to go.
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for anyone on the fence regarding 9500/9505, I would highly recommend i9505 if you are planning to mod.
There is already an active community of 9505 modders, and is growing daily. However there is no guarantee the issues with the Exynos chip will be resolved in the immediate future.
Any speed/power savings in the 9500 octacore chip are neglibile IMO and with a dearth of frequently updated roms for it, I think the 9505 is the way to go.
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exynos chip will be rsolved? resolved what ? The difference is only with cm/aokp roms to which maintainers are reluctant to start(thank u ****shung). The rest of the development/mods is a different story, both are similar.
If there is a mod available for 9505 alone(which is unlikely since all the rom mods will be common for both)its just a matter of time before someone do it for 9500.
There are already a bundle of stock modded roms available for 9500.
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Just out of intrest, why do devs hate exynos chipset so much? And HAHA!
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They hate it because of Samsung! There is no complete documentation for the SoC, no compete sources, and the fact that the Exynos 5410 have a hardware flaw (that can't be fixed) doesn't help either!
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They hate it because of Samsung! There is no complete documentation for the SoC, no compete sources, and the fact that the Exynos 5410 have a hardware flaw (that can't be fixed) doesn't help either!
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What hardware flaw?
OrionBG said:
They hate it because of Samsung! There is no complete documentation for the SoC, no compete sources, and the fact that the Exynos 5410 have a hardware flaw (that can't be fixed) doesn't help either!
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hardware flaw? explain! , you can call it a missing feature/implementation. the term "hardware flaw" will always mislead the users in general. a feature which was never promised to be available for end users cannot be called as a flaw. It lacks one of the implementation/features of big little architecture and thats it.
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Just out of intrest, why do devs hate exynos chipset so much? And HAHA!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40289495&postcount=228
And since I'm coming from i9100 exynos, there's been lot of frustration and waiting (mainly the hwcomposer). You could search & read i9100 threads and find out more reasons :laugh:.
If you're a rom junkie don't hold your breath for Exynos, just switch to Nexus 4 or wait a little bit longer for Nexus 5 like me.
I'm looking to purchase G9550 model cab anyone tell me the difference between the 2 pls.
I'm based in the UK as far as I can see bands are the same.
http://www.phonemore.com/phone/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-duos-sm-g9550-128gb/3264
http://www.phonemore.com/phone/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sm-g955f/3234
The differences are only 3, as far as I can tell:
Snapdragon vs Exynos
6gb Ram vs 4gb Ram
Community support
Exynos is faster than snapdragon, overclocked or not (mine is overclocked to 2.5 ghz and does 182k on antutu, same battery life).
6gb ram is better if you need to use 10 apps at the same time, because it will need to reload apps less often (although I havent seen my s8+ exynos reloading anything so far)
community support is better for exynos than snapdragon, that's for the normal ones... imagine a specific model with a snapdragon.
If it were me, I would spare myself the trouble of getting a phone that will only be sold in korea or China and avoid potential problems that will take longer to be solved than if you got a national phone (even if the bands are the same). I would get the 955F (well, I have it xD)
The reason I was considering 9550 as blue coral is only available in that version.
I did go for 955FD gold in the end as that colour isn't available in the UK yet.
Useful info just one correction g9550 also comes in 4GB ram too.
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The differences are only 3, as far as I can tell:
Snapdragon vs Exynos
6gb Ram vs 4gb Ram
Community support
Exynos is faster than snapdragon, overclocked or not (mine is overclocked to 2.5 ghz and does 182k on antutu, same battery life).
6gb ram is better if you need to use 10 apps at the same time, because it will need to reload apps less often (although I havent seen my s8+ exynos reloading anything so far)
community support is better for exynos than snapdragon, that's for the normal ones... imagine a specific model with a snapdragon.
If it were me, I would spare myself the trouble of getting a phone that will only be sold in korea or China and avoid potential problems that will take longer to be solved than if you got a national phone (even if the bands are the same). I would get the 955F (well, I have it xD)
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I have the 9550. Didn't really have a choice since I live in Hong Kong. I do prefer the exynos too, although kind of doubt it makes a big difference (probably slightly better battery life).
Completely true about the community support although you can expect part of the Chinese community to actually support the device.
It will probably also take longer to get a root for this device than on Exynos (if we ever get it... Which starts to stress me out)
One small caveat: the Snapdragon has a better support than exynos among app developers and you can expect to have better optimized apps for the Snapdragon version (but this too is probably a minor thing too...)
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Alcibiade said:
One small caveat: the Snapdragon has a better support than exynos among app developers, and you can expect to have better optimized apps for the Snapdragon version (but this too is probably a minor thing too...)
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I don't see how that makes sense, I don't suppose you can elaborate on why you think this is correct?
TY/BR.
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I don't see how that makes sense, I don't suppose you can elaborate on why you think this is correct?
TY/BR.
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Certain 3rd party camera apps for instance take advantage of the snapdragon. Google TensorFlow for machine learning as well. Other apps leverage on its DAC.
I hope now that makes sense to you. If it doesn't, use Google.
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Certain 3rd party camera apps for instance take advantage of the snapdragon. Google TensorFlow for machine learning as well. Other apps leverage on its DAC. I hope now that makes sense to you.
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Cheers! I wonder why Exynos has worse support for those sort of things, poorer dev SDKs/APIs? BR.
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Cheers! I wonder why Exynos has worse support for those sort of things, poorer dev SDKs/APIs? BR.
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Most likely Qualcomm's effort to distribute their API and document their processors (Samsung doesn't publish everything about the Exynos). Also easiness of users reach for developpers: if you develop something optimized for Qualcomm you know you will reach US Samsung's phones, HTC phones, Pixel, Moto, etc... And you probably don't want to make the effort to see if there is an equivalent API available for Exynos, learn it, debug your app for it while it will allow you to reach only a limited number of users.
These are anyway most of times optimizations that allow faster processing and don't necessarily take away any functionalities (So in most cases it wouldn't even get noticed)
I see, I suspected it'd be something like that, thanks for taking the time to explain further why you think it's the case! BR.
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I see, I suspected it'd be something like that, thanks for taking the time to explain further why you think it's the case! BR.
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Latest example of this:
https://androidcommunity.com/google...comm-snapdragon-820-821-835-devices-20170814/
Won't happen for Exynos. With Google certainly optimizing a lot of its next apps for Pixel 2, you may soon see more coming for Snapdragon 835. Typically I wouldn't be too surprised if we were to get this for snapdragons: http://news.mit.edu/2017/automatic-image-retouching-phone-0802
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badjoras said:
The differences are only 3, as far as I can tell:
Snapdragon vs Exynos
6gb Ram vs 4gb Ram
Community support
Exynos is faster than snapdragon, overclocked or not (mine is overclocked to 2.5 ghz and does 182k on antutu, same battery life).
6gb ram is better if you need to use 10 apps at the same time, because it will need to reload apps less often (although I havent seen my s8+ exynos reloading anything so far)
community support is better for exynos than snapdragon, that's for the normal ones... imagine a specific model with a snapdragon.
If it were me, I would spare myself the trouble of getting a phone that will only be sold in korea or China and avoid potential problems that will take longer to be solved than if you got a national phone (even if the bands are the same). I would get the 955F (well, I have it xD)
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To my surprise, the Snapdragon seems to be ahead this time...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11540/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos-versus-snapdragon
Sigh...
If only I could get a G9550 easily into Australia, none of the specialist importers were offering the 6GB + 128GB version, plus it was missing one critical band, in-the-end I was left with no choice but to get an imported G955FD. [only single SIM version officially sold in Australia]
The only place I could find it in the world where I could have had it shipped, was India, but the average cost of top-end smartphones there is much higher than it is in Australia, postage plus MF services wasn't too bad.
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Sigh...
If only I could get a G9550 easily into Australia, none of the specialist importers were offering the 6GB + 128GB version, plus it was missing one critical band, in-the-end I was left with no choice but to get an imported G955FD. [only single SIM version officially sold in Australia]
The only place I could find it in the world where I could have had it shipped, was India, but the average cost of top-end smartphones there is much higher than it is in Australia, postage plus MF services wasn't too bad.
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FYI, the 6GB/128GB G955FD S8+ is now available in Brazil as well, hopefully Samsung decides to launch it in other markets like they did with the 128GB S7 edge.
Yeah I know t'was a bit later, even if it was an option at the time;
I suspect it would've been just as impractical as India turned out to be.
Sigh, ah well....
Its this time of the year guys! This thread is to discuss pre-orders across all stores and providers in Canada. To compare notes and ask ROBELUS related questions. I personally pulled the trigger for an unlocked (no subsidy) phone through best buy, delivery scheduled for the 16th and then I went back in an through Telus the pick up is on the 9th for some reason so I pulled the trigger on both. What did you order from where? What did you select? Pick up or delivery? Please share.
It seems the Exynos s9+ has 128gb of memory and the Snapdragon only 64gb. What gives?
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It seems the Exynos s9+ has 128gb of memory and the Snapdragon only 64gb. What gives?
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Well the exynos is more expensive so at least you get more for your money, but ya stupid decision samsung.
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It seems the Exynos s9+ has 128gb of memory and the Snapdragon only 64gb. What gives?
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That kind of makes me mad, like why can't samsung offer 64gb and 128gb/256gb in Canada. I mean if apple could do it, then samsung should have no excuse.
So there's no Exynos version? Wtf?
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So there's no Exynos version? Wtf?
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yeah there is an exynos version, not for Canada. I heard Samsung going be under-clocking exynos processors so they are the same performance of sd845.
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yeah there is an exynos version, not for Canada. I heard Samsung going be under-clocking exynos processors so they are the same performance of sd845.
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Sosad
One question though, does anyone know where to get the blue in Canada?
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yeah there is an exynos version, not for Canada. I heard Samsung going be under-clocking exynos processors so they are the same performance of sd845.
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But on snapdragon, we wont have unlocked bootloader so no root , which means no xda stuff. Na man, i won't buy s9 then!
Hola
I am still on the fence about getting this device. One unique thing that I need is VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling features and currently you can only get these "advanced" functions by buying a phone directly from your carrier. I would be more inclined to get the Exynos version primarily because you can get decent third-party custom ROMs that, for the most part, provide a cleaner experience than the bloated full stock firmware.
Ah boy first world issues indeed...
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Got my shipping notice from BestBuy. I'm supposed to get be able to pick it up this Friday. We'll see how that goes...
Reineforce said:
Sosad
One question though, does anyone know where to get the blue in Canada?
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No blue. Lilac and gray only.
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Got my shipping notice from BestBuy. I'm supposed to get be able to pick it up this Friday. We'll see how that goes...
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I thought the release date is 16th
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I thought the release date is 16th
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Yes it is but my pick up date is the 9th. Guy on the phone confirmed it but in the store they're saying they might receive it on the 9th and still won't be able to sell it until the 16th. That's why I guess we'll see Friday.
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Yes it is but my pick up date is the 9th. Guy on the phone confirmed it but in the store they're saying they might receive it on the 9th and still won't be able to sell it until the 16th. That's why I guess we'll see Friday.
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That be cool if they sell it earlier, but slim chance for that.
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That be cool if they sell it earlier, but slim chance for that.
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I just went over my emails and it turns out they sent me an email telling me to disregard the shipping notice and that my phone will be ready for pick up on the 16th. Oh well...
Just placed my preorder online with Samsung.ca. SES is not too convenient for me and having read about some hassles with using the $150 credit against the phone, I figured online was easier as the credit is already applied and I may get my phone before the 16th.
But why you guys not worried about the Snapdragon processor, i mean locked bootloader. Are you guys okay with that?
Also the benchmark scores are drastically higher on Exynos (3600, 9500) as compared ro the crapdragon(2400,8500).
Aakash Kaushal said:
But why you guys not worried about the Snapdragon processor, i mean locked bootloader. Are you guys okay with that?
Also the benchmark scores are drastically higher on Exynos (3600, 9500) as compared ro the crapdragon(2400,8500).
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No point if Samsung going under clock the exynos version so it performs like sd845. That’s what people at anandtech found out, hopefully it’s not true.
Here's the link to the article
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12478/exynos-9810-handson-awkward-first-results
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No point if Samsung going under clock the exynos version so it performs like sd845. That’s what people at anandtech found out, hopefully it’s not true.
Here's the link to the article
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12478/exynos-9810-handson-awkward-first-results
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Bro the geekbench scores are drastically high on exynos but yeah the the other scores are pretty low.. i think in real life, Exynos will still be faster than the Snapdragon.
People still pay attention to benchmarks? I have no issues with my SD835 S8+ and I only expect the S9+ to be even faster. I'll take real-world usage over benchmarks any day. Plus, I like being able to use VoLTE and having proper Carrier Aggregation support for LTE, something that I can't use if I import an Exynos version.
That being said since it's using the snapdragon processor will samsung prevent all their phone's from being rooted? I really wanted to get the s22 note 1TB but if I can't root it im gonna be sad.
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That being said since it's using the snapdragon processor will samsung prevent all their phone's from being rooted? I really wanted to get the s22 note 1TB but if I can't root it im gonna be sad.
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Snapdragon's tend to be notoriously hard to root.
A stock Samsung can run quit well at least they use to... So far I'm not keen on this new model and 2022 will likely be another bad year for Samsung and Android.
Unifying their chipsets is a good thing though, if they can do it. Supply chain shortages may be ahead...
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Snapdragon's tend to be notoriously hard to root.
A stock Samsung can run quit well at least they use to... So far I'm not keen on this new model and 2022 will likely be another bad year for Samsung and Android.
Unifying their chipsets is a good thing though, if they can do it. Supply chain shortages may be ahead...
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The Exynos 22000 was suppose to have an amd gpu as well right?
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The Exynos 22000 was suppose to have an amd gpu as well right?
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Don't know. I've always ran the US variants... for better or worse.
Why would the newer and presumably better (even if only by a little) Samsung Galaxy A53 5G be cheaper than the older A52 5G? I've seen this on quite a few websites including Samsung's official website. And their customer service representative was clueless and of no help on this question (or any other for that matter. I've tried a few times over the years for various questions).
It's quite strange.
It shouldn't be. But either way, both of them are good value.
The A52 has a headphone jack. The A53 has 5000mAH battery. Depends on which you prioritize.
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It shouldn't be.
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Which is why I suspect that maybe there's something about the A53 being inferior to the A52 that they're not telling us.
In fact, I would really like to get the A52, if only there was somewhere that had it reasonably priced...
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Which is why I suspect that maybe there's something about the A53 being inferior to the A52 that they're not telling us.
In fact, I would really like to get the A52, if only there was somewhere that had it reasonably priced...
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the soc is exynos instead of snapdragon, might be why.
Dollscythe said:
the soc is exynos instead of snapdragon, might be why.
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So the A52's Snapdragon is better?
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So the A52's Snapdragon is better?
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it's cheaper for samsung to make an equivalent performance exynos than to buy a snapdragon, because qualcomm sells them for a higher price to make a profit.
for what it's worth, the soc in the a53 is between the a52 and a52s in terms of performance.
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for what it's worth, the soc in the a53 is between the a52 and a52s in terms of performance.
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Well that explains it! So the older phone is the better performing one (even if just by a little). How smart of Samsung!
Performance is my number one priority item when looking for a new phone. (Smaller size is also important to me, but sadly all the budget phones today are so massive.)
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Well that explains it! So the older phone is the better performing one (even if just by a little). How smart of Samsung!
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the a53 isn't the successor to the a52s. that comes later in the year, and will be more expensive than the a53. probably with a 780g or some unreleased SD or exynos chip that's a bit better.
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the a53 isn't the successor to the a52s. that comes later in the year, and will be more expensive than the a53. probably with a 780g or some unreleased SD or exynos chip that's a bit better.
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Oh, so you mean the A53 chip is actually faster than the A52?
By the way, the A52s came out already.
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Oh, so you mean the A53 chip is actually faster than the A52?
By the way, the A52s came out already.
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I think they mean an eventual A53s.... which honestly won't be coming out, tbh. The A52s only came out because of supply issues.
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Oh, so you mean the A53 chip is actually faster than the A52?
By the way, the A52s came out already.
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yes, the a53 is faster than the a52.
i meant the a52s' successor (a53s, if they call it that) will come out later this year.
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The A52s only came out because of supply issues.
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You mean supply issues with the regular A52 5G and A52 4G phones?
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yes, the a53 is faster than the a52.
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But nonetheless the chip was cheaper for them to manufactor so they're passing on the savings to the customer?
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You mean supply issues with the regular A52 5G and A52 4G phones?
But nonetheless the chip was cheaper for them to manufactor so they're passing on the savings to the customer?
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yep. more profit for them. cheaper = more phones sold (in general). more phones sold = higher production, which means lower cost per unit, combined with more profits from more units sold = more
If there was supply issues with the regular A52 5G and A52 4G phones, why couldn't they just produce more of them instead of creating a new version (A52s) entirely?
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If there was supply issues with the regular A52 5G and A52 4G phones, why couldn't they just produce more of them instead of creating a new version (A52s) entirely?
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probably not enough cpus for the regular ones, since that's the main (or only) difference between them and the a52s