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DALLAS, July 25, 2011 /PRNewswire/ --
Key Facts
AT&T* confirmed that upgrades to the Android™ 2.3 (Gingerbread) platform are planned for all post-paid Android smartphones already introduced this year.
Motorola ATRIX™ 4G users will receive an update to Android 2.3 beginning today and HTC Inspire™ 4G users will receive the update in the coming weeks.
Motorola ATRIX 4G update will also provide the ability to download applications from third-party stores.
HTC Status™ arrived in stores July 17, the first AT&T smartphone running Android 2.3.
Upgrade Details
Customers who purchased an Android smartphone from AT&T introduced in 2011 can expect to receive an update to Android 2.3. All of these devices are planned to be upgraded from Android 2.2 to Android 2.3, also referred to as Gingerbread. In addition, Samsung Captivate™ owners will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread.
Delivery methods will vary by device. Whenever possible, upgrades are delivered over-the-air (OTA), however in some cases the size of the file needed to install the update will require the user to connect via Wi-Fi or connect the phone to a PC to install the update. Factors such as manufacturer-defined software and other device performance improvements result in each device requiring a separate update which will vary in timing.
Beginning today and continuing over the next few weeks, Motorola ATRIX 4G users will be prompted to install the update. To download the update, users must be connected via Wi-Fi. In August, HTC Inspire 4G users will be notified that the update is available and can be downloaded when connected to a Wi-Fi network. AT&T smartphone users can access at any one of the company's more than 26,000 Wi-Fi hotspots at no cost.
The AT&T smartphones planned for a Gingerbread update are:
HTC Inspire™ 4G
LG Phoenix™
Motorola ATRIX™ 4G
Pantech Crossover™
Samsung Captivate™ 4G
Samsung Infuse™ 4G
Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
Gingerbread delivers a number of improvements, such as user interface refinements, refined copy/paste functionality and speed enhancements. The upgrade offers improved power management that offers a more active role in managing applications in addition to an improved on-screen keyboard with multi-touch support that makes typing faster and more accurate
Yay. It's about time.
Whadya bet it's horrid like the latest OTA for the Craptivate? Even worse would be if it's unrootable.
Captivate 4G?
As a former user, it's nice to see it still being supported .
I guess it's cool for people who are afraid to root, but I would never even consider using that ota update. I'm sure most feel the same way since most popular roms have been on gingerbread for quite some time.
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I am curious what version of sense it will have. If it has a version of 3.x I would try it.
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I am curious what version of sense it will have. If it has a version of 3.x I would try it.
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It would be nice if it had Sense 3.0 but I don't really have very much faith in AT&T. My guess is it will still use Sense 2.1(?) like it does now.
It will have Sense 2.1. Sense 3.0 was not designed to be put on phones such as the Inspire. 3.0 is only being released on the newer models coming out such as the Sensation.
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Whadya bet it's horrid like the latest OTA for the Craptivate? Even worse would be if it's unrootable.
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It looks like the latest GBs are rootable now with a tool called Fre3vo (originally made for the Evo). Hopefully HTC won't hold off on their release by trying to patch against this exploit.
Another pointless update from ATT that will most likely brick devices due to OTA being unstable at best. When they release the source for it then I will be happy but until then. Ill stick with custom roms as I know they work and we all know how well ATT roms work
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Another pointless update from ATT that will most likely brick devices due to OTA being unstable at best. When they release the source for it then I will be happy but until then. Ill stick with custom roms as I know they work and we all know how well ATT roms work
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i'm actually looking forward to the release. not so i can install the ota update, but so that the devs can harvest it for goodies (if any). In my experience, the ATT stock roms have almost always been the most stable, and roms built up from these with just a few tweaks to teh rom (ie inspired ace/saga) are golden for what i'm looking for. we'll see what happens i guess
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i'm actually looking forward to the release. not so i can install the ota update, but so that the devs can harvest it for goodies (if any). In my experience, the ATT stock roms have almost always been the most stable, and roms built up from these with just a few tweaks to teh rom (ie inspired ace/saga) are golden for what i'm looking for. we'll see what happens i guess
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+1
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i'm actually looking forward to the release. not so i can install the ota update, but so that the devs can harvest it for goodies (if any). In my experience, the ATT stock roms have almost always been the most stable, and roms built up from these with just a few tweaks to teh rom (ie inspired ace/saga) are golden for what i'm looking for. we'll see what happens i guess
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+2. Once the devs get a hold of it, they can tweak and add Sense 3.0, which will give us more stable roms than the current Euro DHD roms.
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nhshah7 said:
i'm actually looking forward to the release. not so i can install the ota update, but so that the devs can harvest it for goodies (if any). In my experience, the ATT stock roms have almost always been the most stable, and roms built up from these with just a few tweaks to teh rom (ie inspired ace/saga) are golden for what i'm looking for. we'll see what happens i guess
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Yes yes and YES! Right now Im running the TPC rom. No ATT bloat, OCed, a few more tweeks, etc. and its so damn stable I dont think I'll ever flash to another ROM. Im hoping for the same thing you are...a stock, but cooked, GB rom. Absolutely cant wait for this!
Yes I'm glad because its official and the Devs might find some use for it. But I have been using the famous cyanogenmod so the update isn't a big thing for me. Glad to see att hasn't forgotten us though!
I'm most excited for any radio and ril updates it might include since it will be a true AT&T certified GB based radio/ril combo.
I look forward to what the devs do with with it and hopefully some new drivers. Like touch screen, and wut not. I assume it will be nicer for a dev to use the framework from an official release that's for the inspire then the ones they have been using?
Hopefully we'll get new radio/ril designed for gingerbread. Wish I could use the latest ATT ota radio with ARHD! Looking forward to it.
My best estimate is that it'll pretty much be the same as the GB WWE and Telus ROMs we've already seen with some ATT bloat added in that'll be the first thing to get removed. It'll be easier to use as a base for Inspire custom ROMs though as there won't need to be audio fixes and gps stuff and whatnot.
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It will have Sense 2.1. Sense 3.0 was not designed to be put on phones such as the Inspire. 3.0 is only being released on the newer models coming out such as the Sensation.
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That's the propaganda from HTC, but thanks to Capychimp it has been proven to run fine on the inspire.
So it would still be great if they shipped it with 3.0.
I see that dhd users are getting a ota for sence 3.0 and android 2.3.5 but the sensation is running 2.3.4 Wtf?
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I believe we have 2.3.5 leaks which probably means it should be coming "soon."
Don't quote me though.
Word is we're skipping 2.3.5 to get 4.0 in the new year
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Word is we're skipping 2.3.5 to get 4.0 in the new year
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I don't think that htc leave Sensation on 2.3.4 till ICS release, while desire s, desire hd and incredible s have already 2.3.5 with Se se upgrade (2.1 TO 3.0).
I don't belive that we Will have ics in earlyer 2012, but maybe in february, so i belive in an update TO 2.3.5 in this month.
I'm speaking basing that on my experience with Gingerbread upgrade or the last year (also with other manifacturer).
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I don't think that htc leave Sensation on 2.3.4 till ICS release, while desire s, desire hd and incredible s have already 2.3.5 with Se se upgrade (2.1 TO 3.0).
I don't belive that we Will have ics in earlyer 2012, but maybe in february, so i belive in an update TO 2.3.5 in this month.
I'm speaking basing that on my experience with Gingerbread upgrade or the last year (also with other manifacturer).
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I hope you are right...this way htc could take a little bit more time to better develop the ICS update.
I think we'll have to wait at least until march to have android 4.0...and I don't think this would be a bad thing. More time to fix bugs, more time for developers to make their apps ICS-compatible, more time to develop the new sense ui (which I think will be the main reason why we'll have ICS around march). All this while we're still playing with android 2.3.5 and sense 3.5...I could have a lot of patience this way...
AFAIK Desire HD, incredible, etc have not yet been confirmed to get ICS, so their only way up is Gingerbread updates.
As far as Sensation goes, I still don't like that phones like SGSII, Nexus S etc are getting updated to 2.3.5 and 2.3.6 respectively and we are left behind but we made a conscious choice buying the Sensation so good luck to us.
On another note, I really like how Sony-Ericsson listened to their customers last year after the X10 fiasco and in my opinion are the leaders right now in update turnaround. They will probably be the first to release ICS for their current lineup, as they have already finished coding it. They are only waiting for country certifications now.
According to @HTC_NL, the sensation range of devices will receive the ICS update soon (before the 1st of March). On the 1st of March an ice white sensation will be released in Holland.
Link here (it's in Dutch of course): http://www.whizpr.nl/persberichten/8268
Article from tweakers.net (source):
HTC provides users of the Dutch Sensation, Sensation Sensation XL and XE soon an update to Android 4.0 ICS. On March 1 also appears that a white Sensation Android 4.0 already installed.
To update existing devices called HTC no period, the manufacturer has only said that "soon" will take place. The update was on the air offered to users. It is still unclear whether the devices with the update to ICS also immediately be provided with Sense 4.0.
About new features in Android 4.0 version of HTC Sense is still little known, HTC has just announced that shortcuts at the bottom can be adjusted by the user. Recently there appeared images of the new version of Sense, showed that the appearance, colors and screen animations differ from both Android 4.0 and the current versions of Sense.
HTC Sensation spent the last year in June from 2.3 with Android. Last autumn there were the Sensation XE and XL on the Sensation. The Sensation runs on a Qualcomm MSM8260 dual-core SOC running at 1.2 GHz. The GPU is an Adreno 220. The phone has a 4.3 "LCD with a resolution of 960x540 pixels. The camera has a maximum resolution of 8 megapixels and shoots video at 1080p with 30fps.
The manufacturer will this spring, next to the white Sensation, presumably releasing new models. These will most likely at the Mobile World Congress telecommunication fair, which takes place later this month in Barcelona, are presented
Nevermind, HTC has clarified that the phone will be coming with 2.3 and will be upgradeable to 4.0 ... lame.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/2/27...nching-in-white-with-android-4-0-on-march-1st
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Nevermind, HTC has clarified that the phone will be coming with 2.3 and will be upgradeable to 4.0 ... lame.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/2/27...nching-in-white-with-android-4-0-on-march-1st
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Thank you! This'll help tell me what rumors are fake sooner!(assuming the site isn't providing us with false information!) It'll be a long wait However, ty devs for sharing the leaks. They work pretty damn good so far!
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According to @HTC_NL, the sensation range of devices will receive the ICS update soon (before the 1st of March). On the 1st of March an ice white sensation will be released in Holland.
Link here (it's in Dutch of course): http://www.whizpr.nl/persberichten/8268
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This would be awesome, as they would release kernel sources with this phone which might be compatible with the original Sensation/Sensation XE... which would allow better custom kernels for ICS which is the only thing wrong with [email protected] at the moment! (apart from the *few* minor bugs )
I wont hold my breath that it will be soon
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There will be not ICS on 1 March, on XE White. R u blind all? Read!
Update: HTC just wrote us to say that its original press release was incorrect — it'll actually ship with Android 2.3 and be upgradeable to 4.0 down the road, just as its other Sensation versions will be. In other words, don't expect an ICS-equipped Sensation on March 1st... but you can expect a white one with Gingerbread. Furthermore, the white Sensation is already available in select markets, so the PR is simply announcing its upcoming availability in Benelux. Now, the question becomes: how much longer is the wait for the upgrade?
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C'mon...when it goes live, it will...
Counting will make you nervous and nothing else...root it and have it right now...
And, be careful what you wish for cause you just might get it...
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There will be not ICS on 1 March, on XE White. R u blind all? Read!
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Yes how retarded of people not pre-emptively predicting an updated article.
Take a chill pill.
Im seriously not impressed with the way HTC are masking ICS, AOSP ICS is a beautiful thing, so can sense be, but htc have gone about it all wrong with sense 3.6 and 4, I think im steering away from HTC slowly but surely, and can almost guarantee that I will be going AOSP ICS when it is stable!
Oh man, there is 3 threads about "1 march ics", and one opened after 1st etc... noone sees that article is updated? Or even that some thrads r arleady open with updated information? Please...
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Im seriously not impressed with the way HTC are masking ICS, AOSP ICS is a beautiful thing, so can sense be, but htc have gone about it all wrong with sense 3.6 and 4, I think im steering away from HTC slowly but surely, and can almost guarantee that I will be going AOSP ICS when it is stable!
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You can say that again...
I like sense functionality, unlike its skining...it would be nice if they keep sense with AOSP design...
I like the ROM's that are already out there, and as posted above as soon as AOSP is stable I'll be going to that.
On the other hand I wonder what's taking HTC so long, we have devs that do this for fun and they're releasing great ROMs and here you got a major company that you would think have lots of professional devs that do this for a living and they take forever.
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On the other hand I wonder what's taking HTC so long, we have devs that do this for fun and they're releasing great ROMs and here you got a major company that you would think have lots of professional devs that do this for a living and they take forever.
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A chef here has to make a rom which is pre made and stable and tweaks it. If it works for 99% of the users it's good. Htc has to release a rom which work for 100% of the users.
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felixoanta said:
On the other hand I wonder what's taking HTC so long, we have devs that do this for fun and they're releasing great ROMs and here you got a major company that you would think have lots of professional devs that do this for a living and they take forever.
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You forget that it isn not just a phone software that they need to update and polish, they need to sort out all cloud services that their ecosystem is all about (eg facebook for HTC, watch, hub, likes etc).
I would rather wait a few weeks to get a finished product, than have unpolished system that has memory leaks or whatever...
You forget that average user doesn't want to mess with rooting and flashing and they even don't know about that alternative (and/or care) so they cannot and will not flash new "xda" software when official rom "breaks"...
Very true, didn't think about that.
well, you can press thanks button so i can open new thread sooner
hope they release it soon..
I and my wife have an rooted firmware now.
but somethimes the phone reboots...
i don't care, but the wife don't like it hehehe.
kloenie said:
hope they release it soon..
I and my wife have an rooted firmware now.
but somethimes the phone reboots...
i don't care, but the wife don't like it hehehe.
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U can always change your wife. Maybe developers from XDA can make some new RomWIFE. But... how to do wipe then?
No point in this...
Thread closed
Someone knows when is the release ofJB firmware for the hox att
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November 2013
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November 2013
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AT&T specifically never promised anything. That was when it was supposed to be delivered to one of the carriers. How did you post that when it's now December and there isn't anything yet is puzzling.
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AT&T specifically never promised anything. That was when it was supposed to be delivered to one of the carriers. How did you post that when it's now December and there isn't anything yet is puzzling.
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Read the year again
Lol I swear this is like the 10th thread on this topic
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Nobody knows this lol good god people its releases when you're able to download it
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You know not the hour nor the day.
Actually I believe it may be. I have an update waiting in que & have heard from two sources, one that works for the big H, & heard that the JB rom is starting to roll out. I have not had time yet this morning to DL & pull the update, but I believe it just started rolling out this morning.
I plan on taking a look at the OTA that I have in que over lunch & will report back.
Updates on Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) and Frequently Asked Questions
We're looking forward to providing our HTC One X and HTC One S customers with Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) along with our latest version of HTC Sense. As with any software upgrade, we work closely with our carrier partners to ensure we deliver the best experience possible on our devices.
After internal testing, we test the software on live networks in order to confirm the experience matches our expectations, and carrier expectations, for performance, connectivity and platform stability. While testing takes time, we're working quickly with our carrier partners to rollout these updates. We'll provide information on availability once the software is ready for release.
When will additional devices receive Android 4.1?
In addition to the HTC One X and HTC One S, we are actively reviewing our product portfolio to identify candidates to receive Jelly Bean. Our goal is to prioritize review for devices launched in 2012 with our numerous carrier partners across multiple regions and then consider our ability to provide updates to products from 2011.
What is the overall timeline of Android 4.1 updates?
There are many aspects to the software development process that make it difficult for us to give specifics on upgrade timing. As a global company, we work with a number of carrier partners in various regions to ensure a great user experience with every upgrade. Each region and carrier partner has unique requirements that necessitate customized testing. Only after HTC and its partners have successfully completed the final testing will the software be released.
What devices will not get Android 4.1?
We work hard to ensure each of our products has the optimal user experience and therefore some products will remain at their current version of Android. In general, devices with 512MB RAM or less will not be upgraded to Android 4.1. At present, these devices include the HTC One V and the HTC Desire C. As we identify other devices that will not be upgraded, we'll provide updated information.
It should be noted that upgrades are not the same thing as ongoing support. Devices not being upgraded to Android 4.1 will still get software improvements, security fixes, and technical support.
What about a development version of Android 4.1?
For our developer community, we plan to make generic development ROMs of Jelly Bean available for both the HTC One X and HTC One S. As soon as the ROMs are ready, they will be posted to our HTCdev site (www.htcdev.com). We strongly recommend customers take the time to understand the limitations of the development software along with the terms and conditions on the site before downloading to their device.
My phone hasn't gotten the Android 4.1 update, while others with the same device have. Why?
Our devices are available on a wide variety of carriers and across many countries, due to localization, testing, and partner approvals, updates do not roll out to all devices with the same name at the same time.
Even once a software update begins to roll out from HTC or a carrier partner, the update can take up to 45 days from the initial push to reach each person with that device on a given network.
If your phone has not received the update after the 45-day period, navigate to Settings > About > Software Updates to have your device manually check for updates. If your device still does not show an update, please contact customer support
Why does it take so long to release an update?
Our goal is to make sure that an upgrade provides an improved customer experience and that means a high standard of quality for hardware compatibility, adapting device or carrier specific customizations, testing by HTC and partners, addressing device hardware constraints, and many other factors.
What version of HTC Sense will come with the Android 4.1 update?
The upgrade to Android 4.1 will include HTC Sense 4+.
Its coming out on 12-21-2012. Too bad we won't be able to update...
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ethantarheels123 said:
Its coming out on 12-21-2012. Too bad we won't be able to update...
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Link?
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He Was Trolling, He is a idiot. December 21,2012( Mayan Calendar) Worlds Going to end bullcrap.Scientists actually proved it was the Start of something else..solstice or something..
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He Was Trolling, He is a idiot. December 21,2012( Mayan Calendar) Worlds Going to end bullcrap.Scientists actually proved it was the Start of something else..solstice or something..
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Doh. I deserve that, I think. lol
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Doh. I deserve that, I think. lol
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Ya, I had to read it twice to actually get it. The part when he said "to bad we wont be able to update ", and then i linked December 21 2012 together to the date Mayans predicted something would happen. At first it got took out of proportion to the world ending but they proved that mayan calendar was not the same as ours or something. But yeah you got trolled by ethantarheels123 hehe.
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He Was Trolling, He is a idiot. December 21,2012( Mayan Calendar) Worlds Going to end bullcrap.Scientists actually proved it was the Start of something else..solstice or something..
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Haven't looked too far into it cause I don't care.. but one of my friends said it could possibly be the start of a new age.
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There is an "everything jelly bean discussion" thread in the General lounge that's stuck. Please use that.
Hi everyone,
Today I was just reading about Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie, and I couldn't help but wonder if it will be ported to Sensation XE.
An upgrade from Gingerbread (2.3.4) to Ice Cream Sandwich/Jelly Bean required a corresponding firmware upgrade, which was "conveniently" released by HTC. As far as I know, nobody is invloved in firmware development for Sensation XE (for obvious reasons, I suppose), and the next K release on Android will most likely require new firmware which, let's be honest, HTC is quite unlikely to release.
So, what are your thoughts on Key Lime Pie being ported to Sensation XE?
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Well there was no firmware release for jb on the sensation. So ur using ICS firmware on jb. The same will follow, correct me if wrong.
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Well there was no firmware release for jb on the sensation. So ur using ICS firmware on jb. The same will follow, correct me if wrong.
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Well, JB could run on the same firmware as ICS. I'm guessing it was because it was in some ways similar to ics (ics (4.0) to(4.1/2/3)).
However ics cannot run on gingerbread firmware. Isn't it likely that Key Lime Pie will need need a new firmware too. I mean it's supposed to be a major upgrade.
Yeah I guess I see what u mean. But I still don't think ICS and jb are similar enough to justify the use of the same firmware. Then again I don't know that much detail about the developmental level so u could very much be right.
All we can do is wait and see I guess. Hopefully there is no extra firmware needed though.
Honeycomb and ICS look similar and are 3.0 and 4.0
Froyo and GB look similar as well and are 2.2 and 2.3
So hard to say really
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Yeah I guess I see what u mean. But I still don't think ICS and jb are similar enough to justify the use of the same firmware. Then again I don't know that much detail about the developmental level so u could very much be right.
All we can do is wait and see I guess. Hopefully there is no extra firmware needed though.
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Well I really hope Sensation gets Key Lime Pie. Fingers Crossed
Huh... tough one.
We just recently got the working JB (Sense) rom thanx to SebastianFM's kernel (Search for Revelation rom) which is great for th efirst release.
and as far as I know it was a preatty tough task to accomplish.
So, I belive, that IF we get the Key Lime Pie we'll get it firs in AOKP or CM rom's... not that sure about the Sense based roms.
But like you said... fingers crossed. :fingers-crossed:
As far as I know, it's possible, as devices which did not get official ICS upgrades were upgraded and are working well (for example, the i9000 Galaxy S, and many even older devices (My sister's old Optimus One runs JB, albeit it has it's own bugs)). The fact HTC released a new firmware for ICS certainly helped, but it was not necessary, because when you port a ROM to your device, you build it to run on a certain firmware. If we wouldn't have a new firmware, devs would probably port it to the older firmware version.
What's happening with JB and SebastianFM's kernel is that since ICS, Google began transition to ION memory management and drivers, instead of PMEM (which was used on Qualcomm devices, and each chip manufacturer had it's own tech). Since JB, ION became the preffered solution, and that's why AOSP based roms such as cyanogenmod and AOKP could run, but Sense 4+ (android 4.1) couldn't, as it requires ION drivers on the Kernel level.
So what I believe, it will be possible. newer firmware isn't necessary, as when a ROM is ported, it's made to work with the existing firmware. And for the kernel related, I wan't to believe that once we have full ION drivers, problems will be easier to solve, but that is for the future.
I'm not a dev, that's just my understanding of things.
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As far as I know, it's possible, as devices which did not get official ICS upgrades were upgraded and are working well (for example, the i9000 Galaxy S, and many even older devices (My sister's old Optimus One runs JB, albeit it has it's own bugs)). The fact HTC released a new firmware for ICS certainly helped, but it was not necessary, because when you port a ROM to your device, you build it to run on a certain firmware. If we wouldn't have a new firmware, devs would probably port it to the older firmware version.
What's happening with JB and SebastianFM's kernel is that since ICS, Google began transition to ION memory management and drivers, instead of PMEM (which was used on Qualcomm devices, and each chip manufacturer had it's own tech). Since JB, ION became the preffered solution, and that's why AOSP based roms such as cyanogenmod and AOKP could run, but Sense 4+ (android 4.1) couldn't, as it requires ION drivers on the Kernel level.
So what I believe, it will be possible. newer firmware isn't necessary, as when a ROM is ported, it's made to work with the existing firmware. And for the kernel related, I wan't to believe that once we have full ION drivers, problems will be easier to solve, but that is for the future.
I'm not a dev, that's just my understanding of things.
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Yes, if the sensation does indeed get android 5.0 key like pie, then it is pretty much going to be AOSP first, no sense version. Also, I don't know anything about key lime pie, but we probably need that 3.4 kernel with ION to work on AOSP based ROMs first.
Not to be skeptical, but I think there's not really a chance that key lime pie could run on a pmem kernel. Plus, the Sensation's ram is only 768 megabytes, so some type of more advanced memory allocator is probably required.
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Yes, if the sensation does indeed get android 5.0 key like pie, then it is pretty much going to be AOSP first, no sense version. Also, I don't know anything about key lime pie, but we probably need that 3.4 kernel with ION to work on AOSP based ROMs first.
Not to be skeptical, but I think there's not really a chance that key lime pie could run on a pmem kernel. Plus, the Sensation's ram is only 768 megabytes, so some type of more advanced memory allocator is probably required.
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As things are going now, the chances of having a Sense KLP ROM on our Sensation are low, as the One S currently won't get any more updates, and ROMs are ported from a version of it (ville c2).
And for the low RAM, I don't think it's a problem yet, as devices with 512MB run JB quite well. but a better memory management is always good.
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As things are going now, the chances of having a Sense KLP ROM on our Sensation are low, as the One S currently won't get any more updates, and ROMs are ported from a version of it (ville c2).
And for the low RAM, I don't think it's a problem yet, as devices with 512MB run JB quite well. but a better memory management is always good.
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I don't think that RAM requirements are going to be a problem at all.
Google has already said that it wants android to run equally well on smartphones tablets as well as low end phones, and though Sensation XE may not be high end, it sure as hell isn't low end. So hardware wise, KLP shouldn't have any issued on Sensation.
For example read http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/486414/20130704/android-5-0-key-lime-pie-k.htm
Andoir KLP for a wider set of devices
Far_SighT said:
Hi everyone,
Today I was just reading about Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie, and I couldn't help but wonder if it will be ported to Sensation XE.
An upgrade from Gingerbread (2.3.4) to Ice Cream Sandwich/Jelly Bean required a corresponding firmware upgrade, which was "conveniently" released by HTC. As far as I know, nobody is invloved in firmware development for Sensation XE (for obvious reasons, I suppose), and the next K release on Android will most likely require new firmware which, let's be honest, HTC is quite unlikely to release.
So, what are your thoughts on Key Lime Pie being ported to Sensation XE?
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a while ago i was researching about Android KLP..it just came out of my mind..and i have read that this version will support a wider range of devices, including even low-end smartphones and those with 512MB of RAM. So it's most likely our Senny can cope up to it, as it is said that Android 5 will be optimized to be lighter and built for performance and battery efficiency. it is rumored that this version will make the device smoother, and consume less RAM to make it more quick in performance. i dunno how google will do it but i hopethat said features will materialize and our Senny can taste the new android..it will be a huge leap from 4.0.3 to 5.0. so flashaholics like me, keep a backup of your stock roms! let's just hope HTC won't deny us old phone users this major update.
ichigo_kurosaki said:
a while ago i was researching about Android KLP..it just came out of my mind..and i have read that this version will support a wider range of devices, including even low-end smartphones and those with 512MB of RAM. So it's most likely our Senny can cope up to it, as it is said that Android 5 will be optimized to be lighter and built for performance and battery efficiency. it is rumored that this version will make the device smoother, and consume less RAM to make it more quick in performance. i dunno how google will do it but i hopethat said features will materialize and our Senny can taste the new android..it will be a huge leap from 4.0.3 to 5.0. so flashaholics like me, keep a backup of your stock roms! let's just hope HTC won't deny us old phone users this major update.
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HTC isn't going to update the Sensation XE. Hell, they only agreed to update the One S after so much protest.
But it would be nice if KLP comes to Sensation XE.
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ichigo_kurosaki said:
a while ago i was researching about Android KLP..it just came out of my mind..and i have read that this version will support a wider range of devices, including even low-end smartphones and those with 512MB of RAM. So it's most likely our Senny can cope up to it, as it is said that Android 5 will be optimized to be lighter and built for performance and battery efficiency. it is rumored that this version will make the device smoother, and consume less RAM to make it more quick in performance. i dunno how google will do it but i hopethat said features will materialize and our Senny can taste the new android..it will be a huge leap from 4.0.3 to 5.0. so flashaholics like me, keep a backup of your stock roms! let's just hope HTC won't deny us old phone users this major update.
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HTC already did deny us, after stopping updates, they won't update a 2-year old device. I didn't find any official confirmation for the One S Sense 5 update, but from what I found, it was explained that only the S4 powered One S will be updated, due to lack of software support from Qualcomm to the S3 platform. It's quite hard to believe HTC would make that effort of updating such old device. After all, their interest is to sell new phones, and 2 years are about the average time for an upgrade (personally I'm probably keeping my device for at least the next year before even considering an upgrade).
Maybe as an AOSP port or CM, but I don't think we will get Sensed KLP, and I don't think we'll even get it ported.
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HTC already did deny us, after stopping updates, they won't update a 2-year old device. I didn't find any official confirmation for the One S Sense 5 update, but from what I found, it was explained that only the S4 powered One S will be updated, due to lack of software support from Qualcomm to the S3 platform. It's quite hard to believe HTC would make that effort of updating such old device. After all, their interest is to sell new phones, and 2 years are about the average time for an upgrade (personally I'm probably keeping my device for at least the next year before even considering an upgrade).
Maybe as an AOSP port or CM, but I don't think we will get Sensed KLP, and I don't think we'll even get it ported.
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Too bad that even the One S HTC release wouldn't do us any good. But I really hope that at least KLP AOSP roms can run on current firmware.
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My previous device (HTC WILDFIRE) last official relase was Froyo but it runned gb ics and jb (very slow because lack of gpu and very very bad processor) but i hope we can enjoy KLP on our sensation
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AndroidSupporter318 said:
Yes, if the sensation does indeed get android 5.0 key like pie, then it is pretty much going to be AOSP first, no sense version. Also, I don't know anything about key lime pie, but we probably need that 3.4 kernel with ION to work on AOSP based ROMs first.
Not to be skeptical, but I think there's not really a chance that key lime pie could run on a pmem kernel. Plus, the Sensation's ram is only 768 megabytes, so some type of more advanced memory allocator is probably required.
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KLP Will be able to run good on devices with 512mb ram
"Officials Said, to run Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie your device must have minimum 512MB ram and 1GB for smooth running. "
( http://www.techcodez.com/android-5-0-key-lime-pie/ )
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Sensation are not supported now so... in my opinion they are not in future
vito.exe said:
Sensation are not supported now so... in my opinion they are not in future
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Buddy, you needn't say that. (Everybody's ) Sensation XE might be old, but that doesn't mean it's useless.
If you have any doubts see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391968.
Besides KLP requirements have been confirmed. Sensation can definately run KLP. I just have concerns if the current ics/jb firmware can support it, because firmware updates come from htc only.
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Buddy, you needn't say that. (Everybody's ) Sensation XE might be old, but that doesn't mean it's useless.
If you have any doubts see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391968.
Besides KLP requirements have been confirmed. Sensation can definately run KLP. I just have concerns if the current ics/jb firmware can support it, because firmware updates come from htc only.
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agree :good:
Check out the specs for an upcoming phone, the htc Zara. Lots of similar specs to the sensation. It comes with jelly bean but since htc usually gives at least one os update, it's not hard to imagine that phone with key lime pie some day.
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funkymonkey_01 said:
Check out the specs for an upcoming phone, the htc Zara. Lots of similar specs to the sensation. It comes with jelly bean but since htc usually gives at least one os update, it's not hard to imagine that phone with key lime pie some day.
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but it has different emmc and gpu chip