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Greetings,
I just received the brand new VPAD7 and I know that the HW Specs are different, I'm curious how much work it would take to port one of these G-Tablet ROMs to the VPad? Viewsonic seems to have locked this down so tight I can't even use better keyboard on it... Not Cool.
Anyway I've never developed a ROM but if someone want's to teach/try, I'll be the guinea pig with mine.
Did VS abandon the TapnTap skin?
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Did VS abandon the TapnTap skin?
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We can only hope they did.
Nothing... The VPAD7 uses a ARM ARM11 600 MHz..... unfortunately your severely limited with that Processor/chipset.... All the work in this forum is for Tegra 2 based processors... the VPAD7 is more like the deformed step sister twice removed...
If you can return it would recommend it - you are just about at the tail end of that machine based on the processor/chipset (not even a 1ghz which is need for many games at least) and get a Galaxy Tab if you need 3G or just wait for the new Galaxy Tab.. Its processor is significantly faster..
If you want a Tegra 2 based 7inch with 3G your going to have to wait.. if dont care about 3G then go with the eLocity A7 (tegra 2 based) BUT its not multitouch so no gaming for you...
There are no good options at this point for 7".... I know.. I have been looking and salivating at this point for a good unit that doesn't sacrifice in the major areas.
daveinmn said:
Greetings,
I just received the brand new VPAD7 and I know that the HW Specs are different, I'm curious how much work it would take to port one of these G-Tablet ROMs to the VPad? Viewsonic seems to have locked this down so tight I can't even use better keyboard on it... Not Cool.
Anyway I've never developed a ROM but if someone want's to teach/try, I'll be the guinea pig with mine.
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You bought a turd (sorry, im just saying what everyone is thinking)
600mhz=meh.
I played with it at CES yesterday. Get the Dell instead.
stanglx said:
If you want a Tegra 2 based 7inch with 3G your going to have to wait.. if dont care about 3G then go with the eLocity A7 (tegra 2 based) BUT its not multitouch so no gaming for you...
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Moved to general
The vpad7 is totally unrelated to the gtablet. It is actually closer to the iPhone 4 than anything else - imagine a 7" iPhone 4 running android and you will get the picture.
It is quite nice to play with - almost unadulterated AOSP 2.2.1, responsive despite the slower processor, similar screen density to the gtablet (with better viewing angles - but not anywhere close to IPS or AMOLED, and limited 800*480 resolution).
Installs and plays AB as a direct download from the Market. (Full Market and Gapps as standard.)
Easy to Root - has been available in Europe since November. (ROMs available at MODACO.)
It IS a phone - full telephone capabilities with gsm and 3G available on AT&T (EDGE on T-Mobile).
All in all, this is a phone with a 7" screen: much more usable than my 4" regular phone, but not an iPad/Gtablet alternative...
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I knew what I was getting when I bought it. I'm using it mostly for work and for that it's fabulous. For 3G I just Hot Spot it to my phone when needed. It actually maintains a better signal than my T-Mobile phone, works great as a HANDS Free phone as well. I was really looking for a way to get it onto the 3G Network, currently it will only do Edge. Angry Birds runs fine as long as its the ONLY thing running. But that and Solitaire are the only games I have on it. Continually moving the SIM Card is a pain.
I wonder if the ro fingerprint could be pulled from it to gain a true full market on the Gtab. Also wondering if the Vending/Market APK would provide a market on the Gtab that would display properly (not cutting off the stars)? Any ideas from someone a bit smarter than me in all this or would it not work because of the 600 mhz vs tegra 2 difference?
I'm an iOS/Java developer and I want to learn Android dev and port my apps to Android devices. I know there's simulators, but I'm a firm believer in "dogfooding," and want to "live" with the software running on real hardware for a few days, so, I'm looking at the ~$200 Android options... I can read the spec sheets and shoot-out comparisons as well as the next guy, but I was wondering what's the groupthink here?
What I'm considering (so far; open to other suggestions):
IdeaPad A1
Kindle Fire (rooted)
Waiting for the rumored Google ICS tablet
Thoughts? Capacitive touch screen (ideally with at least 1024x600 resolution), decent responsiveness (adequate CPU and RAM), reliable WiFi connectivity are must-haves. Anything from 2.3 on would be interesting.
I have a PRS-T1 I rooted and am happily running a mix of eReader apps on, and I had a Nook Color running CM7.1 but it was always flaky and inadvertently (unrelatedly) became a chew toy for my newest rescue dog...
Thanks!
Try the Asus MeMO Pad, it has high-end specs for $250.
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/asus-eee-pad-memo/4505-3126_7-35117824.html
However, I would suggest going for the Asus Padfone, as it represents the first step towards a future with modular computing, a paradigm shift on the level of having smartphones in the first place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBTc3gn7jBE
hackintoshable said:
I'm an iOS/Java developer and I want to learn Android dev and port my apps to Android devices. I know there's simulators, but I'm a firm believer in "dogfooding," and want to "live" with the software running on real hardware for a few days, so, I'm looking at the ~$200 Android options... I can read the spec sheets and shoot-out comparisons as well as the next guy, but I was wondering what's the groupthink here?
What I'm considering (so far; open to other suggestions):
IdeaPad A1
Kindle Fire (rooted)
Waiting for the rumored Google ICS tablet
Thoughts? Capacitive touch screen (ideally with at least 1024x600 resolution), decent responsiveness (adequate CPU and RAM), reliable WiFi connectivity are must-haves. Anything from 2.3 on would be interesting.
I have a PRS-T1 I rooted and am happily running a mix of eReader apps on, and I had a Nook Color running CM7.1 but it was always flaky and inadvertently (unrelatedly) became a chew toy for my newest rescue dog...
Thanks!
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Being that Im guessing you would like to stay in the $200.00 price range I strongly suggest you check out swappa.com Its the "Ebay of Android" and I know of few here at XDA that have used it with much success. I think you will like what you find.
Galaxy tab 7 2 is 250 brand new so u might be able to get a used one for cheaper
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nook tablet with custom rom (cm7)
*almost same spec (same processor, etc) with kindle fire but nook has 16gb, micro sd slot and 1gb ram compared to kindle fire's no micro sd and 512mb ram
link - barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-tablet-barnes-noble/1104687969
trust me, 512mb ram is just not enough
it seems samsung galaxy tab2 7 is 249$.
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it seems samsung galaxy tab2 7 is 249$.
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I just got one last week and I am very pleased with it.
After finally being able to unlock my bootloader (for those still having trouble: I mailed asus directly about it and after the basic tips of factory reset and stuff they elevated my call and suddenly I was able to unlock.. not sure if my mails helped but was quite funny it happened the day they elevated it), I started investigating more on the capabilities of this sweet device. Now basically I wanted to do more with PDF's and well here the IO troubles are a pain So yeh.. is there a firmware team working on it? or is this something we'd have to wait for on asus?
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Completely on Asus's side. There is nothing we can do as users without either a better unlock or using flakey hackish workarounds to reduce (tho not eliminate) the problem.
Basically, consider this: You have a car with a corvette engine in it with the transmission of, say, a Ford Model T. You just can't get the power to where its needed.
The Tegra3 chipset is kind of like that. Boatloads of horsepower but it struggles to get that power to the wheels and you get lots of ANR's. Asus needs to find a way in the kernel which is locked tighter than Fort Knox to streamline the process while keeping stability up.
If you want the best experience for pdfs then download perfect viewer and the pdf plug in from Google play and all your io issues will be gone.
Seriously try it. No other pdf viewer can compete.
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After finally being able to unlock my bootloader (for those still having trouble: I mailed asus directly about it and after the basic tips of factory reset and stuff they elevated my call and suddenly I was able to unlock.. not sure if my mails helped but was quite funny it happened the day they elevated it), I started investigating more on the capabilities of this sweet device. Now basically I wanted to do more with PDF's and well here the IO troubles are a pain So yeh.. is there a firmware team working on it? or is this something we'd have to wait for on asus?
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
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Since you're unlocked I suggest you try the Zeus rom v4, just out. Very fast, makes a big difference.
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Completely on Asus's side. There is nothing we can do as users without either a better unlock or using flakey hackish workarounds to reduce (tho not eliminate) the problem.
Basically, consider this: You have a car with a corvette engine in it with the transmission of, say, a Ford Model T. You just can't get the power to where its needed.
The Tegra3 chipset is kind of like that. Boatloads of horsepower but it struggles to get that power to the wheels and you get lots of ANR's. Asus needs to find a way in the kernel which is locked tighter than Fort Knox to streamline the process while keeping stability up.
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Odd, because my Tegra 3 HTC One X is significantly faster than both my TF201 and TF700. Either Asus had botched optimizing the kernel or they cheaped out on the internal memory, yet again.
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Since you're unlocked I suggest you try the Zeus rom v4, just out. Very fast, makes a big difference.
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Yeh it's on the planning I am already running a Zeus rom. Just noticed 4 has been released.. can't do it now tho, on 3g and my provider caps the speed after 1gig >.<
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Odd, because my Tegra 3 HTC One X is significantly faster than both my TF201 and TF700. Either Asus had botched optimizing the kernel or they cheaped out on the internal memory, yet again.
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Well part of it is the scheduler which far as i know (i could be wrong) is in the kernel. A custom kernel def could help tho we dont have access
Another problem could be cheap memory chips for the internal storage. Chances are they went with the lowest bidder and got crap quality. Why put class 2 chips in a device that demands class 10 or higher? WTG Asus. (speculation on this one, tho it makes sense)
Also, other teg 3 devices could run faster but what other things factor into it? Smaller resolution screen = much less pixels to update. Possibly faster / greater quantity of ram. Different kernel and rom optimizations. Different power managment settings. Different clock settings. Different voltage settings (chips can be undervolted and overclocked with varying results) LOOOOTS of factors go into "why X device might go faster even with the same processor).
Picture this: A semi truck and a smart fortwo are given the exact same engine. Which will go faster? The smartcar. And yet if this were android you would still have people say "But its the same engine! why does the semi go slower?" Same principal.
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Well part of it is the scheduler which far as i know (i could be wrong) is in the kernel. A custom kernel def could help tho we dont have access
Another problem could be cheap memory chips for the internal storage. Chances are they went with the lowest bidder and got crap quality. Why put class 2 chips in a device that demands class 10 or higher? WTG Asus. (speculation on this one, tho it makes sense)
Also, other teg 3 devices could run faster but what other things factor into it? Smaller resolution screen = much less pixels to update. Possibly faster / greater quantity of ram. Different kernel and rom optimizations. Different power managment settings. Different clock settings. Different voltage settings (chips can be undervolted and overclocked with varying results) LOOOOTS of factors go into "why X device might go faster even with the same processor).
Picture this: A semi truck and a smart fortwo are given the exact same engine. Which will go faster? The smartcar. And yet if this were android you would still have people say "But its the same engine! why does the semi go slower?" Same principal.
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Well ok that said, (also just speculation) wouldn't "most of the IO troubles" be solved by one brave guy who posts a "how to safely break open your $700 device and replace the internal sd card" ?
My first tablet was a ****ty dropad I picked off some chinese site for $100 .. it's internal memory was in fact a ****ty 4 gig card .. I believe it was class 2 even.. so some brave guy cracked it open and wrote how to do this. So I ended up doing the same and indeed solved alot of problems.
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Well ok that said, (also just speculation) wouldn't "most of the IO troubles" be solved by one brave guy who posts a "how to safely break open your $700 device and replace the internal sd card" ?
My first tablet was a ****ty dropad I picked off some chinese site for $100 .. it's internal memory was in fact a ****ty 4 gig card .. I believe it was class 2 even.. so some brave guy cracked it open and wrote how to do this. So I ended up doing the same and indeed solved alot of problems.
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It would have been great if Asus chose to use an internal SD card!! Can you imagine the HACKABILITY?!?!?
Unfortunately no internal sd card in the infinity: http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/MHZKnMyJmRCfQwPn.large
oh well darn
tho not entirely sure what I am looking at I do recognise some chips on that pcb
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
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It would have been great if Asus chose to use an internal SD card!! Can you imagine the HACKABILITY?!?!?
Unfortunately no internal sd card in the infinity: http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/MHZKnMyJmRCfQwPn.large
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Based on the ifixit site these images were taken from there are memory chips there:
Hynix H26M64002BNR e-NAND and 2x Elpida memory J4216EBBG-GNL-F
Do you know which one is the culprit often mentioned as "cheap" RAM and partly the cause for the IO issues?
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oh well darn
tho not entirely sure what I am looking at I do recognise some chips on that pcb
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
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I'm not a developer but closely follow the xda forums on all my devices and have learned a few things (but may not use correct terminology, so bear with me). It seems that when we have kernel source code (and ASUS TF700 binaries), kernel devs can use the linaro tool chain and produce some really amazing kernels which, together with the rendering enhancements in Jelly Bean, will improve performance a great deal, across the board. The GPU can be overclocked.. there's a lot that can be done with the hardware we have...just need source code/ASUS TF700 binaries.
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Based on the ifixit site these images were taken from there are memory chips there:
Hynix H26M64002BNR e-NAND and 2x Elpida memory J4216EBBG-GNL-F
Do you know which one is the culprit often mentioned as "cheap" RAM and partly the cause for the IO issues?
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Hmm ok so judging by a quick lookup it's comparable to a class 10 flash? (quick google tho, so I might be WAY off )
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There's more information here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review/6 including some benchmarking of the Infinity, Nexus 7 and Samsung Galaxy Nexus. It does look like Asus cheaped out on the NAND in their tablets.
I'm not so sure that the problem lies in "cheap" components. I've been digging through the kernel source and the only NANDs that keep popping up are:
00491: case 0xD5: /* Hynix H27UAG8T2A, H27UBG8U5A or H27UCG8VFA */
00492: case 0xD7: /* Hynix H27UDG8VEM, H27UCG8UDM or H27UCG8V5A */
first 3 are from Hynix's Q4 2011 Databook and second 2 from the Q2 2009 Databook (couldn't find the last one) and none of them match the one seen in the teardown http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Asus-Transformer-Infinity-TF-700-Teardown/10306/1
(Sorry, formatting got ruined so I did a quick -- insert to make it readable)
Product -- Tech -- Density -- Block Size -- Stack -- Vcc/Org -- Package -- Avail. -- Remark
H27UAG8T2A-- 4ynm-- 16Gb -- 512KB(4KB Page)-- SDP --3.3v/X8-- TSOP-- EOL
H27UBG8U5A-- 4ynm-- 32Gb -- 512KB(4KB Page)-- DDP-- 3.3v/X8-- TSOP-- EOL
H27UCG8VFA-- 4ynm 64Gb-- 512KB(4KB Page)-- QDP-- 3.3v/X8-- TSOP-- EOL
H27UDG8VEM -- 41nm-- 128Gb -- 512KB(4KB Page) -- QDP -- 3.3v/X8 -- VLGA -- Mar. 09 -- 4CE,Dual CH.
H27UCG8UDM -- 41nm -- 64Gb -- 512KB(4KB Page) -- DDP --3.3v/X8 -- VLGA -- Mar. 09 -- Dual CH.
H27UCG8V5A-- ?-- ? -- ? -- ?-- ?-- ?-- ?-- ?
I honestly think that ASUS is just kicking these things out the door as fast as possible and not putting enough time into actually working on or even attempting to co-develop drivers. They just slap in a reference driver that works and go. Even the JB source for TF300 has the exact same NANDs referenced.
After seeing this I started looking through the Prime forum and see the devs there had came to this conclusion months ago. It seems we've put to much faith into this company. Yes, they've set the bar a little higher in terms of hardware, but they apparently are unwilling or unable to make it work well
As mentioned before with proper source code developers could fix a lot. We need to push for source code.
The io performance has something to do with the synching between tegra and sqlite. It's so bad or it was on tf201 that it can't possibly be all hardware as a cause.
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Hi,
I want to buy TF700.
But I've read in another section of XDA forums that TF700 has speed throttling issues writing to internal storage.
Is anyone familiar with this, and if so, has issue been resolved?
Thanks.
Alan
no.
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Do you mean
1. No, your not familiar with it, or
2. No, it hasn't been resolved.
Thanks.
Alan
Has not been resolved. Plenty of threads on it in these forums.
There are some workarounds, as with the browser (browser2ram), plus tweaks, disabling bloat, etc. - but the I/O problem still (and will continue) to exist. It's hardware based.
TF700 I/O Throttling Issue?
John,
Thanks for your reply.
Is this issue bad enough to pass on buying the TF700?
I don't care about games. Would use it for web browsing, Office work, SKYPE video, and photo viewing and uploading.
Would I have to root to accomplish any tweaks? I'm not anxious to do that yet to a new machine, since I'm new to Android.
My other main consideration is the Galaxy Note 10.
But I liked the higher resolution and keyboard of the TF700.
Do you have any opinion?
Thanks again.
Alan
What exactly does the throttling affect? I read somewhere that ASUS cheaped out on the RAM in the Infinity. Does it affect the speed of switching program to program? I haven't noticed any extreme issues with speed. Then again, I have disabled a ton of of the bloatware and tweaked a lot of the settings to get maximum performance (on non rooted JB). I did notice that after upgrading to JB and then reformatting, things ran smoother.
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In my experience upgrading to jelly bean has made a difference and provides a much smoother experience.
However before you do that it is worth considering rooting the Infinity (doesn't void warranty) then restoring root after the upgrade as you can tweak things so that the io is not really an issue.
Custom Roms certainly help as well.
I do feel that people on xda have become somewhat fixated with the asus io issues. In everyday use they are not really that noticeable especially after the JB upgrade.
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Is this issue bad enough to pass on buying the TF700?
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I know this sounds crap, but only you can tell.
I don't care about games. Would use it for web browsing, Office work, SKYPE video, and photo viewing and uploading.
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Any resource-intensive task may let the I/O issue surface. Photo viewing is OK, uploading, well... that would depend on several other factors (WiFi quality, the type of image files and their size/resolution/compression level). Web browsing is hit or miss: most do not notice a drastic impediment, but others do. Very personal. And all the same considerations apply to Skype/VOIP in general/word-processing software.
Day to day use is not that bad, however, even on stock, unless you have a 'Monday-morning model'...
Would I have to root to accomplish any tweaks? I'm not anxious to do that yet to a new machine, since I'm new to Android.
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Yes, you would need root, definitely. Not that hard to accomplish, IF you can follow instructions to the letter. Being really new to Android, you'll either have to start somewhere, or just use what is given to you by the manufacturer.
My other main consideration is the Galaxy Note 10.
But I liked the higher resolution and keyboard of the TF700.
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In my opinion, if you are even considering the Note, it's not that big a difference to you. I wouldn't even consider the Note a serious contender for the same reasons you gave, but, again, that is as personal as it gets.
Do you have any opinion
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Heh, opinions. They're like sphincters, right -- (pretty much) everyone having one? It seems everyone on XDA --or on forums in general -- has some voyeuristic tendencies showing off their virtual a**holes -- don't worry, we'll voice our opinions, even if you do not like them.
Joeful said:
What exactly does the throttling affect? I read somewhere that ASUS cheaped out on the RAM in the Infinity. Does it affect the speed of switching program to program? I haven't noticed any extreme issues with speed. Then again, I have disabled a ton of of the bloatware and tweaked a lot of the settings to get maximum performance (on non rooted JB). I did notice that after upgrading to JB and then reformatting, things ran smoother.
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Yes, they used a relatively slow Hynix unit, from what I've read. Read up on the I/O issue on the load of threads that are a bit older -- we went into a relatively deep discussion there which is hard/futile/unnecessary to reproduce here. There's a lot of info and considerations mentioned in there -- take a look!
Regards,
M
Joeful said:
What exactly does the throttling affect? I read somewhere that ASUS cheaped out on the RAM in the Infinity.
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It's not about the RAM, it's the embedded MMC, which is slower than the internal storage in many other Android-based devices. The effect is visible whenever you try to load or store larger amounts of data in the internal storage - installing apps, loading pictures, downloading files, etc.
For years, PC users have suffered from slow storage until SSDs became affordable - our eMMC is even slower than a mechanical hard drive in a netbook. Software can only work around the storage slowness by caching, but this cannot fully hide the issues.
azscharf said:
Hi,
I want to buy TF700.
But I've read in another section of XDA forums that TF700 has speed throttling issues writing to internal storage.
Is anyone familiar with this, and if so, has issue been resolved?
Thanks.
Alan
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Absolutely get one! Regarding the "I/O" issues - they are way overblown, to be honest. With Jelly Bean it's not much of a problem at all. There are also a few tweaks around (browser2ram, for example), that make browsing a much faster experience (along with a few other tweaks here and there).
Overall, the TF700 is an awesome tablet with a *super* awesome display and great keyboard dock. We are just now starting to realize the potential of this device and developers are starting to produce custom ROMs and kernels that will make it even that much better.
Do not let the I/O "problem" stop you from buying the device - you will see once you get it, that it's really not much of a problem at all.
After all, you can always return the device if you don't like it...
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TF700 I/O Throttling Issue?
Thanks everyone for the valuable information.
I'm going to stick wiith my TF&00 purchase.
sbdigs wrote:
"In my experience upgrading to jelly bean has made a difference and provides a much smoother experience.
However before you do that it is worth considering rooting the Infinity (doesn't void warranty) then restoring root after the upgrade as you can tweak things so that the io is not really an issue."
Question:
Why root before upgrading to JB and restore root after upgrade?
Why not just root after upgrading to JB?
Thanks.
Alan
The method to root JB on our tablets has not been released yet - IOW, that is the only way to root a locked Infinity running JB
It sounds like you made a decision already, but just to back up a bit more.
Here is compiled I/O scores from official Antutu scores.
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I chose Antutu here because I could not readily find scores of many devices at once on other benchmarks, but I believe the result will be similar.
For instance, check http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...hmark-11-modern-devices-compared-in-13-tests/ Originally before update TF700 score was listed here. But with update (back in early August or late July) the RL bench score was already up to 60-90s.
So what are these proving?
Yes. I/O is slower than the that of Galaxy Note 10.1, or some android phones. But it is not unique to the Infinity. Essentially, what happening here I believe is Infinity just simply did not use top notch I/O but I don't think they cheaped out. Each manufacture decides where to put money when building a device. For example, Samsung's Galaxy Note 10.1 used 2GB RAM and nice IO but did not use Full HD screen. In a ideal world, we can always ask for more. 4GB RAM, Ivy Bridge, Retina display etc. for $500...
Conclusion is basically IO should be as good as most other android tablet out there. In fact, infinity may still be superior to some due to DDR3 RAM use. I think people made/surmised IO as major issue because transformer series had frequent ANR, and lag almost to freeze while application downloading when it was originally released (at least for TF700 and I believe similar story for TF201). Given the use of most cutting edge Tegra chip, DDR3 ram, people hypothesized IO is the bottleneck and the cause of the issue.
But now those original issues raised seemed so much better to the point I say ANR frequency is pretty identical to my iPad 2 and formerly owned Galaxy Note 10.1. System stutters slightly when installing large application sometimes, but not to the point unusable and every system has that issue. Even my desktop does get that if I do too many things at once.
I am extremely happy with this device, and currently this is the most ideal tablet on the market for me.
HoushaSen said:
I am extremely happy with this device, and currently this is the most ideal tablet on the market for me.
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Second, especially now that it's on Jellybean.
Hello all, Hope you are well.
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So I will be buying the 7" version of this tablet before the end of the week and I have a few questions regarding the development side of things, I have previously owned a large range of Android devices and rooted and used custom roms ect on them all so I am not a noob lol.
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My questions are as follows"
1) What is the highest frequency possible for the CPU?
2) How many cores are available for the GPU? and what is the highest frequency it can be set at?
3) Is 4.2.2 JB available in a CM?
4) The ram is stated at 1gb but I guess it would be around 770mb available, is the ext4 or ext3 ram extender available for this device?
5) How are the 3d or HD games running on this device? performance wise.
6) Is it worth $198 Au?
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How does this tab compare to similar ones on the market?
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Hello all, Hope you are well.
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So I will be buying the 7" version of this tablet before the end of the week and I have a few questions regarding the development side of things, I have previously owned a large range of Android devices and rooted and used custom roms ect on them all so I am not a noob lol.
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My questions are as follows"
1) What is the highest frequency possible for the CPU?
2) How many cores are available for the GPU? and what is the highest frequency it can be set at?
3) Is 4.2.2 JB available in a CM?
4) The ram is stated at 1gb but I guess it would be around 770mb available, is the ext4 or ext3 ram extender available for this device?
5) How are the 3d or HD games running on this device? performance wise.
6) Is it worth $198 Au?
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How does this tab compare to similar ones on the market?
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1) 1.4 safely
2) don't recall
3) yes
4) yup depending on rom 77x
5) arguably decent
6) barely
7) read the viable option thread
8) seriously all these questions are easy find use the search
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@r3NdRaG
I'm guessing your from Australia, like myself.
I've gone through alot of tablets.
For the retail price of $200 at jb Hifi, **** Smith, officeworks, big w (all are advertising it at that price)
etc it's a good price.
Online - eBay is obviously going to be cheaper obviously.
The tablet is great I myself this week got the Samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 16gb WiFi ver only for $300 - any of the stores above.
And bought a 64gb card for $50 on eBay.
I bought cause I need more screen estate and will be docking in the car alot.
Any questions ask.
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Try researching for nexus 7.
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I'm not a real fan of devices that don't have expandable memory
Maybe the op is different.
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Thank you all for such a quick response.
Mrkhigh I know I could have searched but I need 10 posts before I can use development forum.
I think I will buy this tablet it seems like a good deal.
I'm hoping it will be able to handle what I throw at it lol.
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its a light weight tab bro....you can get it for $86 now......i wud have recommended you get another...
r3NdRaG said:
Hello all, Hope you are well.
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So I will be buying the 7" version of this tablet before the end of the week and I have a few questions regarding the development side of things, I have previously owned a large range of Android devices and rooted and used custom roms ect on them all so I am not a noob lol.
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My questions are as follows"
1) What is the highest frequency possible for the CPU?
2) How many cores are available for the GPU? and what is the highest frequency it can be set at?
3) Is 4.2.2 JB available in a CM?
4) The ram is stated at 1gb but I guess it would be around 770mb available, is the ext4 or ext3 ram extender available for this device?
5) How are the 3d or HD games running on this device? performance wise.
6) Is it worth $198 Au?
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How does this tab compare to similar ones on the market?
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Thank you all r3NdRag
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