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Sudden issues with my phone

I've had this phone since the day it released and generally had no problems with it. But a couple months ago, I started having issues with the home screen loading the icons up every time I went to home. Random reboots for no reason, too. I read that it seemed to be a common issues for the phone, so I thought I'd wait for Gingerbread. But today the phone wasn't begin responsive when I tried to text, so I tried rebooting and now it's stuck on the endless reboot. It seems the only way to stop this is to get it to factory reset itself, but I'm hoping I don't have to do that because the phone did a factory reset by itself a month ago and I don't want to deal with starting over again. Is there another trick to it?
Maybe I'm better off getting it replaced. Are the newer models free of all these glitches or is it all still more or less a crapshoot with the problems I've had, screen bleeding, ect?
Just so it's out there, I rooted my phone with SuperOneClick, but I didn't flash or install any roms.

yea i would sumtimes u just get a bad phone when u flash it!! but i'd try another rom and see what that does!!!

But I never flashed it to begin with. It this happened 6 moths after already having the phone.
But if I can fix it by flashing it, maybe I'll try that. I've been wanting to try that cyanogenmod since it's lookign better than my stock froyo.

Yea I would flash it b4 tryin a new1...n if that doesn't wrk then u no what to do
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If I flash it, is my phone going to reset itself anyway? Totally new to this.

yup thats y i always flash lol

If you have Clockworkmod Recovery try to just clear the Dalvik Cache. Reboot loops are usually Dalvik Cache issues. The first boot after clearing the cache can take around 5 minutes so be patient.

I went ahead and factory reset it, since I have never flashed it or have any of those apps. If I decide to look into installing Cyanogenmon on my phone, where should I start reading to get all the information to learn how to do it? I've rooted my phone, but that's it. I've stuck to pretty much what was on the phone.

C16MkII said:
I went ahead and factory reset it, since I have never flashed it or have any of those apps. If I decide to look into installing Cyanogenmon on my phone, where should I start reading to get all the information to learn how to do it? I've rooted my phone, but that's it. I've stuck to pretty much what was on the phone.
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If you rooted it, that means you installed Clockworkmod Recovery. To install CM7 you download the zip package, go into recovery, do a factory reset and wipe the dalvik cache, format the system and flash the zip you got from CM.

I rooted it in Superoneclick though, I don't know if I have Clockworkmod recorvery, unless it's not supposed to show up in the app tray like Superuser does.
Isn't there a way to backup my current state on my phone so I keep all my settings in place? I'll probably get into this tomorrow after work.

Check out tgagunmans nvflash method to get cwm 5.0.2.0 on your phone in dev section.
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Alright, now it's really ****ing up and pissing me off. I haven't done anything new to it. I was browsing the Market today and now I see that the home button doesn't work at all, I can't snap any pictures, there's no screen lock screen, I can't even change it to airplane mode when holding power, it only gives me the off option. What happened to this thing?

C16MkII said:
Alright, now it's really ****ing up and pissing me off. I haven't done anything new to it. I was browsing the Market today and now I see that the home button doesn't work at all, I can't snap any pictures, there's no screen lock screen, I can't even change it to airplane mode when holding power, it only gives me the off option. What happened to this thing?
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Have you loaded a lot of apps that autorun when you turn on the phone? Many do and you could be unaware of that. If too many apps are running, or a badly programmed app is running, it can cause issues such as this with your phone.
Also, it sounds like you are still on Froyo with the old baseband. You might want to consider factory resetting it again and running the LG Updater to get GB and the new baseband. Then use the One Click Flasher to install Clockwordmod so you can do backups (basically snapshots of the current state of your device) and then you can play around with alternate roms.
if that doesn't fix it then your device is defective. If you have a warranty you might just want to get a swap going on it.

Yeah, I'm still stuck on Froyo. Is the LG Updater working now? Last I read, it was bricking phones. If it works now, I'm guessing my plan should be:
Factory reset
Use LG Updater
Use One Click Flasher to Install Clockworkmod
Install a rom (Cyanogenmod)
Alot of this terminology is totally new to me, so I'm totally lost reading these tutorials that seem to rely on knowing what these terms mean.
Anyway, would be nice to get rid of all these errors. I can't even install anything from the marketplace anymore, I get a force close.

Alright, tooling around on Cyanogenmod 7 now. I don't like that it doesn't have the LG camera or Swype, so I switched to Weapon G2X. Liking it. Any other recommendations?

Weapon G2x is awesome i keep coming back to it my self.... but for the record i've only owned my phone for about a month and i havn't had any problems at all with i love actually .. i just can't find a kernel that doesn't mess things up back on subject i pretty sure GB took care of most of the problems people were having with the phone i don't know if they did any hardware updates to the newer models

Yeah, it's great. The only issue I have is that Swype doesn't give me a list of alternatives when I double tap a word, so I need to re-Swype the word "if" when it was supposed to be the word "of".
Last question, Can I make multiple backups with Flashworkmod? Now that I've fully set up all my phone, apps and fully configured all my settings, I wanted to back it up to this point so my personalized settings are still accessible. Or is it only one backup?

C16MkII said:
Yeah, it's great. The only issue I have is that Swype doesn't give me a list of alternatives when I double tap a word, so I need to re-Swype the word "if" when it was supposed to be the word "of".
Last question, Can I make multiple backups with Flashworkmod? Now that I've fully set up all my phone, apps and fully configured all my settings, I wanted to back it up to this point so my personalized settings are still accessible. Or is it only one backup?
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Do you mean Clockworkmod Recovery? The backups are coded by date and time so you can make as many as you want. Consider each one a snapshot of the exact state of the device at the time you made the backup. It will be restored exactly the same.

Yeah, whoops. Clockworkmod Recovery. Thanks for the help!

jboxer said:
Do you mean Clockworkmod Recovery? The backups are coded by date and time so you can make as many as you want. Consider each one a snapshot of the exact state of the device at the time you made the backup. It will be restored exactly the same.
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Should I be deleting old back ups how much memory does each back up take?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

System app removal

Alright, this might sound stupid but I could not find a straight forward answer on google... ANYWAYS my question is.
I have a unrooted MT4G it's got a "bad" EMMC serial so I will NOT be rooting it (as I bought the phone used with no warranty and I can't afford to brick it)
I'd like to remove some of the system apps like Yahoo and the Game demos.
Which it LOOKS like I can use the DDMS file explorer to delete the .apk's in system/apps.
What i'd like to know is it safe and will it remove the apps from my phone without having root access

Well if worst comes to worst when you do it that way and it messes up, you can always flash a PD15.img stock file to get back to stock. On the downside it will erase everything.

bas3balman said:
Well if worst comes to worst when you do it that way and it messes up, you can always flash a PD15.img stock file to get back to stock. On the downside it will erase everything.
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Hmm, no go. I just clicked remove and it did nothing...lets me click it though =/
Also tried ADB (untintall and rm) both need root
and even tried to restart adb with root (won't run on production builds)
remount gets oporation not permitted. =[
I guess I'll just be stuck with having this Yahoo....erm junk eating up resources

The bad emmc isn't a big problem as everyone thinks it is, use to own 2 glaciers with the bad chip and no issues.
as for removing the system apps,i don't know of a way to do it without root access. you might as well just root it an flash ics, lol

When I rooted the subject of bad emmc wasn't brought up yet. Whether I have one or not, I still rooted and S-OFF flawlessly.

Not possible to delete system apps if your unrooted....
Sent from my Dark Unicorn Resurrected v.2.5 using Tapatalk 2

How many times do I have to explain this? I've posted in almost every thread where the words "bad eMMC" were used.
It's not a BAD eMMC unless it takes a crap - period. Some of those chips die without the phone ever being rooted. Yes, the flashing process that happens repeatedly AFTER rooting, will speed up the decline of a chip. If you're worried about rooting I hope you've never done an OTA because it carries an even greater danger than rooting, as all the major partitions are rewritten.
I've rooted 3 phones with the "bad" chip (misnomer if I've ever heard one) and flashed custom recoveries and ROMs on them, and all work. My phone in particular has been abused like thosed girls that grow up to do porn. Works just fine.
The least invasive method of getting those apps out of your drawer would be to temp root with visionary (only if you're on froyo) and use Titanium backup to freeze the apps.

Thanks to estallings15.
I have one with bad emmc and bad screen and he encouraged me to root.
Custom roms are light years better than stock.
And I can't return my phone.

estallings15 said:
How many times do I have to explain this? I've posted in almost every thread where the words "bad eMMC" were used.
It's not a BAD eMMC unless it takes a crap - period. Some of those chips die without the phone ever being rooted. Yes, the flashing process that happens repeatedly AFTER rooting, will speed up the decline of a chip. If you're worried about rooting I hope you've never done an OTA because it carries an even greater danger than rooting, as all the major partitions are rewritten.
I've rooted 3 phones with the "bad" chip (misnomer if I've ever heard one) and flashed custom recoveries and ROMs on them, and all work. My phone in particular has been abused like thosed girls that grow up to do porn. Works just fine.
The least invasive method of getting those apps out of your drawer would be to temp root with visionary (only if you're on froyo) and use Titanium backup to freeze the apps.
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Thank you for clearing that up. I was unaware of that and may have given bad advice regarding the bad chip myself. Could we get a new thread in the forums and sticky it I wonder?
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda app-developers app

I have the so called bad chip, and so far running like a champ. I say you shouldn't worry to much as the myt4g runs fairly cheap. You could probably get one for a hundred dollars or less if you prowled eBay,Craigslist,Amazon etc. Also worst case scenario your phone gets bricked you can always sell the phone on eBay as broken and then pay the difference
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Delete Bloatware ... GB 2.3.4

I'm pretty sure i already know the answer on this, but just checking. Is there any way to delete bloatware via adb or something without rooting? OR (before the flame party starts) ... is there any way to root without doing a factory reset?
NOW: the reason why i ask is i just found out one of my mom's friends also has a shift. She's been getting quota errors on her phone and even though she's uninstalled some apps, a lot is being ate by stock installed bloatware that she doesn't use. I'd like to be able to get some of that cleared out for her, but she's not super tech savvy and I'd rather not inconvenience her with having to reinstall everything and set it all back up.
If not, I'll give her the option of a full root and run an a2sd rom on it for her too. Just trying to see what all of my options are. I apologize in advance if this has already been covered. I haven't had much time to search. Internet's off at home and my signal's been too spotty to use the xda app. Only have time to check stuff at work and I couldn't find exactly what I needed.

Without root I doubt you could do enough for it to even matter.

Only thing you can do without root is install a factory ruu image, which will wipe everything, but will also be an actual fresh install rather than just formatting user data with a factory reset.
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Easy as 3.1415926536

Can't she just use the native 2.2+ apps 2 sd? Like go into the app info and click move to sd. Otherwise i like to use zdBox which will kinda do a batch move. Also it will clear cache and a lot of other things. There's also a program called link2sd which will do the ext partition move and native apps2sd.
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tbag1122 said:
Can't she just use the native 2.2+ apps 2 sd? Like go into the app info and click move to sd. Otherwise i like to use zdBox which will kinda do a batch move. Also it will clear cache and a lot of other things. There's also a program called link2sd which will do the ext partition move and native apps2sd.
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She probably could but like I said, she's not really tech savvy. I could set it up for her, but it wouldn't put her mind at ease. I'm pretty sure she needs the visual of looking in her app drawer and NOT seeing the apps before she can fully stop stressing about her phone. But we'll see. I have the next couple days off so I'll talk to her. If she doesn't have too much data to move I'll just root and help her set up either newSENSE or Supreme and call it a day. If that proves to be too big of a hassle I'll offer her the native apps2sd option and try to convince her that her phone won't blow up on her. Or it might not matter cuz she might be upgrading ... in which case I'll just get the phone off of her as a backup and root it for me lol.
TDJ512 said:
Without root I doubt you could do enough for it to even matter.
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I guess my main inquiry was is there a way to "root" enough to remove bloatware. I think before they found the 2.3.3 exploit though the best that could be done was "freezing" while in temp root but i think all the apps came back after reboot. Dunno...

Root it, and do it right. She and you will be much happier in the long run. My friends girl was the same if not worse about her EVO4G. She thought that Sprint would call and accuse her of rooting the device . I let her think what she wanted to. Rooted and Mikafied his EVO. After two days he called me and said she changed her mind after using his phone. The biggest thing is letting a person see what the differences are, and what the advantages will be to Rooting.

Convincing her of the benefits of rooting is no biggie ... the hassle i was trying to avoid was her having to completely set up everything on her phone again. Not the biggest inconvenience, but she might be debating getting another phone too. I'm not overly pressed about it. I won't see her again until next weekend, and at that time i'll let her make her own decision. Worst case scenario, she decides to opt for something like the Galaxy S3 and i talk her into giving me her shift as a backup. Doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I was just wondering if there was a less obtrusive way to delete her bloatware than a full wipe/RUU.

Well either way, hope it works out for the best .

[Q] Updated CM7, Phone stuck at Smilyface LG on boot! HELP!

My G2X has CM7 #225 nightly. Google Apps are already installed.
ROM Manager is finally working (WooHoo!) and I'm thinking I should install the latest.CM7. When I select to download CyanogenMod 7 20121125 Nightly Build 13550 it asks if I also want to include Google Apps (2.3).
Can anyone please tell me if I need to install Google Apps again?
Thanks!
EDIT: Updated without the Google Apps, now at boot all I see is the smilyface LG at boot (10-sec off, 6-sec on). HELP!

Do you have playstore working right now? If it is, Gapps is already installed. If its not, then you need to install it.
There is no harm in downloading gapps again.

OK, downloaded without Google Apps, flashed thru ROM Manager, the box for clear Davlik cache was checked.
For the past five minutes I on the screen all I see is the flashing LG - it's the blue LG boot screen.
HELP!

EEngineer said:
OK, downloaded without Google Apps, flashed thru ROM Manager, the box for clear Davlik cache was checked.
For the past five minutes I on the screen all I see is the flashing LG - it's the blue LG boot screen.
HELP!
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Go in CWM and reflash your nightly with Gapps. ROM Manager always screws with this phone. I thought you knew.

cricketAC said:
Go in CWM and reflash your nightly with Gapps. ROM Manager always screws with this phone. I thought you knew.
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:good: was just going to say, try flashing via cwm.

Harmony Restored
Ah, I forgot and in CWM selected install from ZIP. Of course got a message that the directory was empty. Awk! I'm visiting my brother here in Long Island (helping him clean up from Sandy) and forgot to pack a microSD-to-USB adapter. Ran out to Radio Shack and overpaid for the adapter, Backed up my microSD card to my laptop (because it's the smart paranoid thing to do).
Then I selected Backup and Restore, restored my backup from earlier today - I'M BACK! Good thing I started from 100% battery because I had 53% battery left.
Thanks and thanks given for AndroidKills and cricketAC.
Didn't know that ROM Manager is a no-go for this phone. So, the smart thing to do is:
1) Download the CM7 update as a ZIP to my laptop (NOT using ROM Manager) and transfer to my G2X
2) Boot into CWM, clear Davlik and cache
3) From inside CWM, select Install from ZIP
Is this right?

Yea you always want to flash roms on the g2x with cwm. And do the usual wipe data, wipe cache partition, wipe dalvic cache. Then flash the ROM followed by the appropriate gapps
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Barracuda1101 said:
Yea you always want to flash roms on the g2x with cwm. And do the usual wipe data, wipe cache partition, wipe dalvic cache. Then flash the ROM followed by the appropriate gapps
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I wipe Dalvik cache, and the cache partition. But wiping data deletes all my contacts and settings and others say isn't necessary.

EEngineer said:
I wipe Dalvik cache, and the cache partition. But wiping data deletes all my contacts and settings and others say isn't necessary.
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If you are going from one android version to another (2.* to 4.* or vice versa). It is. Otherwise, you can just wipe cache/dalvik.

cricketAC said:
If you are going from one android version to another (2.* to 4.* or vice versa). It is. Otherwise, you can just wipe cache/dalvik.
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Why didn't you point that out? I'm wondering why you didn't mention to back up all data.
I've seen jerks on this group recommend to newbies to clear "cache/data", and when the newbie cries he lost everything the jerk gives a big "lol". I'm not saying that's you. But telling people to clear cache/data is clearly dangerous.

EEngineer said:
Why didn't you point that out? I'm wondering why you didn't mention to back up all data.
I've seen jerks on this group recommend to newbies to clear "cache/data", and when the newbie cries he lost everything the jerk gives a big "lol". I'm not saying that's you. But telling people to clear cache/data is clearly dangerous.
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If newbies read as they are supppsed to, 99% of dev threads say "to make a nandroid/backup your data before you flash this..."
anytime i flash a thing i run TiBkup, nandroid, than wipe cache, dalvik, data, and sysyem.
sometimes internal sd as well.
fresh clean so no data left ober gunking up new setup.
G2x-CM7 Nightly 11/18/12 Build, Trinity ELP Kernel

justjackyl said:
If newbies read as they are supppsed to, 99% of dev threads say "to make a nandroid/backup your data before you flash this..."
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Wrong.
Always assume a newbie knows nothing.

EEngineer said:
Wrong.
Always assume a newbie knows nothing.
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Wrong.
I assume that newbies watched the how not to be a noob video which tells you to search and read.
We are not here to hold people's hands.
No one held my hand, I followed the rules, found the guide.for modding the g2x and...omg...i READ it. That guide alone warns to make a backup.
Its not my, nor any other XDA members responsibility to walk anyone through step by step , we assume you did as you were instructed, and studied. If you jump right in without studying, than thats your/their fault.
Sorry you feel that way, but thats how it is.
Ultimately, in the end, no one is responsible for any action a person takes, and any damages those actions may cause, other that persone themselves. Whether here, or in life.
G2x-CM7 Nightly 11/18/12 Build, Trinity ELP Kernel

justjackyl said:
Wrong.
I assume that newbies watched the how not to be a noob video which tells you to search and read.
We are not here to hold people's hands.
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Assume a noob knows nothing. Assume there are visitors that haven't joined, but just found this page by a search engine.
it's not about holding people's hands. It's about helping. That includes not deliberately leaving out vital information that can have devastating consequences to someone's phone. Already had that happen to me, a jerk gave me bad advice that, had I followed it, would have bricked my phone. You remind me of him.
Honestly, you haven't convinced me that you're one of those people that likes giving bad advice.
Look, I've done tech support for over 15 years, both in person and on the phone. This is how it is. Why do you defend giving deliberately dangerous advice?

EEngineer said:
Assume a noob knows nothing. Assume there are visitors that haven't joined, but just found this page by a search engine.
it's not about holding people's hands. It's about helping. That includes not deliberately leaving out vital information that can have devastating consequences to someone's phone. Already had that happen to me, a jerk gave me bad advice that, had I followed it, would have bricked my phone. You remind me of him.
Honestly, you haven't convinced me that you're one of those people that likes giving bad advice.
Look, I've done tech support for over 15 years, both in person and on the phone. This is how it is. Why do you defend giving deliberately dangerous advice?
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I defend taking responsibility for your own actions.
Ive done, and still do IT tech support. I understand what your saying.
that said, we are just supposed to ignore all the guides for newbies that the xda userbase has created for them and everytime repeat over and over whats stated all over?
*sighs* this is the point where we agree to disagree. You obviously enjoy repeating information easily obtained by searching and reading as rules state.
I on the other hand do not.
And offering support here is nothing like a paid tech support job at all.
And "visitors " can't post, so thats kind of negated.
Lets just choose to stop this here.
it comes down to difference of opinion.
You think everyone should just be handed information that they did not take the time to research themselves, on a silver platter.
I on the other hand, believe everyone has to work for what they want/earn rather than get a free handout.
Your like obama with public healthcare, I'm like Romney, you get what you put in. lol
Just an example, a bad one yes, and not taking a political stance.
We just have varying opinions on the matter is all....
cheers mate!
G2x-CM7 Nightly 11/18/12 Build, Trinity ELP Kernel

Please don't compare me to Obama or I will throw up.
And pretty much everything you wrote is a horrible,insulting generalization - and wrong.
Look, I'm updating from CM7 to CM7. Didn't I I make that clear from the beginning? Deleting data is not needed or necessary - you even admitted that yourself, right? And yet you still insist that there was nothing wrong with advising to delete data.
Hey, I can understand your point of view because you have been here for so very long you have a mindset of "everyone should think like I do". You've made it abundantly clear that anyone that isn't constantly on this board deserves what they get, right?
But most people aren't on this board constantly, and only come here occasionally. And those are also the people that need the most help.
Let's be clear - I don't know you. And there are people out there that enjoy giving bad advice and bricking people's phones. How do you differentiate yourself from those people? You haven't convinced me that you aren't one of those people. Your position is that if you give someone bad advice, it's their faulty for taking it. That's the position of someone who likes giving bad advice.
The summary of what you attempting to tell me is that it is O.K. for you to give bad advice as long as your INTENTIONS are good. THAT is the classic liberal Obama position ("so what the economy is screwed, hey, I tried!"). The classic liberal position is avoiding responsibility. You are a classic liberal, bearing the the motto "It's Not My Fault"

I never offered you any advice.
I always advise people to do full wipes, including data, so no junk is left behind.
You must have confused me with someone else.
Anyways, agree to disagree.
Have fun.
G2x-CM7 Nightly 11/18/12 Build, Trinity ELP Kernel

How to block 4.4.3 OTA on rooted N5?

I followed the method to apply this update to my device when it first came out. I ran it for a few days and HATED it. So I restored back to 4.4.2 from my nandroid and all was well, except for the nag that wouldn't go away. I dealt with it for as long as I could before I had to get rid of it. I followed instructions on deleting the update file and renaming something else and then installed Autorun Manager from Play Store and made sure that com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver was un-checked (which strangely it already was). I rebooted my phone, and the nag was gone so I thought I was in the clear.
Well this AM I take my phone off the pad, and the battery is at 60% which is quite odd for a phone that's been charging for 9 hours, and I see that my data limit setting has been tripped! This thing used like 2 gigs of data in the background under Google Services OVERNIGHT!!! This is ridiculous! This is Android, for crying out loud... I shouldn't be forced to use an update that I didn't like! Or have to install a custom ROM for that matter, which I used to do on my phones (I loved cyanogenmod) but with GravityBox I've been able to do everything I needed to do with the stock ROM. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, however suggesting that I disable background data for Google Services will be unacceptable considering it will break a bunch of other stuff. There's got to be a way around this. Thanks in advance!!!

IrocD said:
I followed the method to apply this update to my device when it first came out. I ran it for a few days and HATED it. So I restored back to 4.4.2 from my nandroid and all was well, except for the nag that wouldn't go away. I dealt with it for as long as I could before I had to get rid of it. I followed instructions on deleting the update file and renaming something else and then installed Autorun Manager from Play Store and made sure that com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver was un-checked (which strangely it already was). I rebooted my phone, and the nag was gone so I thought I was in the clear.
Well this AM I take my phone off the pad, and the battery is at 60% which is quite odd for a phone that's been charging for 9 hours, and I see that my data limit setting has been tripped! This thing used like 2 gigs of data in the background under Google Services OVERNIGHT!!! This is ridiculous! This is Android, for crying out loud... I shouldn't be forced to use an update that I didn't like! Or have to install a custom ROM for that matter, which I used to do on my phones (I loved cyanogenmod) but with GravityBox I've been able to do everything I needed to do with the stock ROM. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, however suggesting that I disable background data for Google Services will be unacceptable considering it will break a bunch of other stuff. There's got to be a way around this. Thanks in advance!!!
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Out of curiosity what did you hate about 4.4.3? From a UI/UX standpoint, not much changed.

jamel_tza said:
Out of curiosity what did you hate about 4.4.3? From a UI/UX standpoint, not much changed.
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IDK if it was app incompatibilities, but I had TERRIBLE battery life and constant reboots. My device rebooted at least twice an hour. It was basically unusable. I'm no stranger to these devices and messing around with them, so I'm pretty sure it's not something I did. Normally I like to have the latest and greatest, and visually I did like the little changes. But I couldn't live with it, and I don't feel that Google should be able to nag me to upgrade and then obliterate my data allotment when I take steps to override it. Am I wrong?

IrocD said:
IDK if it was app incompatibilities, but I had TERRIBLE battery life and constant reboots. My device rebooted at least twice an hour. It was basically unusable. I'm no stranger to these devices and messing around with them, so I'm pretty sure it's not something I did. Normally I like to have the latest and greatest, and visually I did like the little changes. But I couldn't live with it, and I don't feel that Google should be able to nag me to upgrade and then obliterate my data allotment when I take steps to override it. Am I wrong?
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Wow that's pretty unusual... As someone who's rooted I understand how much of a pain in the ass OTAs can be, since you liked some of the changes the update brought I think you should give it another shot, though - this time by heading over to the Android Development section, finding a flashable zip of Stock ROM doing a clean install. Don't forget to make a nandroid backup though!

jamel_tza said:
Wow that's pretty unusual... As someone who's rooted I understand how much of a pain in the ass OTAs can be, since you liked some of the changes the update brought I think you should give it another shot, though - this time by heading over to the Android Development section, finding a flashable zip of Stock ROM doing a clean install. Don't forget to make a nandroid backup though!
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Maybe a good idea... when I did my upgrade, I don't think anyone had made a flashable zip of 4.4.3 yet. I guess I could give it a shot!

IrocD said:
Maybe a good idea... when I did my upgrade, I don't think anyone had made a flashable zip of 4.4.3 yet. I guess I could give it a shot!
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Give it a shot, there are tons of zips now, just a matter of choice. Plus if anything goes wrong, you have a backup.
btw - I'm giving you this advice because I was in a similar position when the update rolled out. I didn't want to update right away because of possible bugs. After a week if nags I flashed a zip someone put together and things have been fine since.
Either way, let me know how it goes!

Another way would be to download the 4.4.3 factory images and flash system, radio, boot. The random reboots will surely stop. I've not yet seen any app which is compatible with 4.4.2 and isn't with .3
PS: While changing android versions, I always prefer to clean install.

jamel_tza said:
Give it a shot, there are tons of zips now, just a matter of choice. Plus if anything goes wrong, you have a backup.
btw - I'm giving you this advice because I was in a similar position when the update rolled out. I didn't want to update right away because of possible bugs. After a week if nags I flashed a zip someone put together and things have been fine since.
Either way, let me know how it goes!
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Welp, I just clean-flashed the de-odexed 4.4.3 and everything is okay, so far. My device was nearly dead <20% by the time I was done flashing, so I'm gonna let it spend some time on the pad and then see if I have any issues. Keep your fingers crossed for me!

IrocD said:
Welp, I just clean-flashed the de-odexed 4.4.3 and everything is okay, so far. My device was nearly dead <20% by the time I was done flashing, so I'm gonna let it spend some time on the pad and then see if I have any issues. Keep your fingers crossed for me!
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I have 'em crossed tight! I hope everything works out. If you encounter any problems don't hesitate to report back here.
JT