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Is this the best android tablet?

I had the Prime, but took it back because of the hardware issues.
A few months later, I am looking to get a 10" tablet again. Is the TF300T the best choice?
I am surprised at the lack of activity in here.
The Nexus tablet could be cool, but it's only 7". I think I will order the TF300T, it's $530 on amazon with the keyboard.
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Depends how you define "best". Do you mean the thinnest, the lightest, the fastest, the best screen, the best audio,......no. It's not.

It's definitely near the top of the bunch, but I wouldn't call it the best. That title would probably go to the Transformer Pad Infinity or whatever they're calling it. It will however give you the most value for your money.
It's essentially a Prime except 1mm thicker, a bit heavier and with a less bright screen. All the GPS, bluetooth, wifi and quality issues have been dealt with here though, plus the Micro SD and regular SD card slots are a tad deeper so the cards won't go flying anytime soon.
So while in terms of raw specs it isn't at the top of the line, it's pretty damn close and it's pretty cheap considering what you're getting. I remember last year I bought the 14mm thick Toshiba Tab for more lol.

One of the best I had, but I can´t compare it to the prime.
Fantastic Wlan and GPS, For me the screen is nearly perfekt, if you root it and put one of the custom roms out there on it it´s smooth and fast. And on the bench you are not so far away from a prime, when you OC your Tf300. So for me: One of the best for that price.

Thanks for the replies.
I have thought about it, and my most wanted features are:
Processing Speed: Looks like tegra 3 is the best right now. I do like the processor, and I think it makes more sense to have that in a tablet vs a phone because the tablet will have a bigger battery. I see that the new tablets coming out have 2GB of ram. I'm pretty excited about that.
Display: I do want to do some basic photo editing on the tablet, and look at my pics taken with my phone. 1080p would be nice, but not necessary.
Hardware quality: The Prime's issues really bummed me out. I hope Asus does better with the Infinity.
Updates: I was looking at the Galaxy Tab 7.7. but it's still on Honeycomb. This is unacceptable. Good thing Asus is quick to update their products.

NCRoadster said:
Thanks for the replies.
I have thought about it, and my most wanted features are:
Processing Speed: Looks like tegra 3 is the best right now. I do like the processor, and I think it makes more sense to have that in a tablet vs a phone because the tablet will have a bigger battery. I see that the new tablets coming out have 2GB of ram. I'm pretty excited about that.
Display: I do want to do some basic photo editing on the tablet, and look at my pics taken with my phone. 1080p would be nice, but not necessary.
Hardware quality: The Prime's issues really bummed me out. I hope Asus does better with the Infinity.
Updates: I was looking at the Galaxy Tab 7.7. but it's still on Honeycomb. This is unacceptable. Good thing Asus is quick to update their products.
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What tablet or tablets out have 2 gb of ram? As far as I know the tf300t is the only one that has the best ram with 1gb ddr 3 ram. People were talking that the Acer a510 has ddr 3 ram but it doesn't. The Acer a700 with 1080p screen still clocked at 1.3 has 1 gb ddr2 ram that isn't out yet but pre order price of 449.99 is great. The tf700 will handle the 1080p screen much better with it being clocked at 1.6 and ddr 3 ram. But I heard it will come out next month at 499.99 for the 32gb version.
For the money and functionality you can't beat the tf300 unless you can wait a month. I think the tf700 will be a monster at 500 bucks.

You all convinced me. My TF300T is coming tomorrow. $515 with the keyboard and one day shipping.

Where did you get that price?
NCRoadster said:
You all convinced me. My TF300T is coming tomorrow. $515 with the keyboard and one day shipping.
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I did about the same but had to do some big bartering with price matches etc and multiple ads etc.

If they had released the red one first I wold definitely buy one of these and upgrade my tf101 but after seeing the infinity... I'm gonna happily wait for that

I think its the best tablet in its price category. It beats out other tablets in the 300-400$ range as far as hardware. But it'll be hard to compare it to other, more expensive tablets that are out/coming out.
You can't beat the tegra 3 and DDR3 right now.
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What do you guys think about the new Acer A700 compared to the transformer tf300? I just got transformer so I can still exchange it but I heard bad things about Acer's quality built sucking.
The main difference is the hd screen. But I'm new to Asus so what do you guys think?
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stixzadinya said:
What do you guys think about the new Acer A700 compared to the transformer tf300? I just got transformer so I can still exchange it but I heard bad things about Acer's quality built sucking.
The main difference is the hd screen. But I'm new to Asus so what do you guys think?
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asus is going to release the pad infinity which also has that same resolution too, but its screen is IPS+, for acer i think it's just IPS, and according to androidauthority, it will be released at the price $499, i'm hoping it's the wifi only 32 gig version, so if that's true, you just need to spend $50 more to get the pad infinity, i can't think of anything to "complain" about it at that price.
also the pad infinity has better specs, like flash camera, 8-megapixel camera on the back, 2 megapixel on the front, dockable,...
imo, acer products are not good, many people say asus products are always better than acer. i would never consider buying an acer product

nooktablet said:
asus is going to release the pad infinity which also has that same resolution too, but its screen is IPS+, for acer i think it's just IPS, and according to androidauthority, it will be released at the price $499, i'm hoping it's the wifi only 32 gig version, so if that's true, you just need to spend $50 more to get the pad infinity, i can't think of anything to "complain" about it at that price.
also the pad infinity has better specs, like flash camera, 8-megapixel camera on the back, 2 megapixel on the front, dockable,...
imo, acer products are not good, many people say asus products are always better than acer. i would never consider buying an acer product
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I really dig my TF300, just sucks that I got it right when something newer and better is about to come out. Then again, that's every time when it comes to tech devices.
Regarding the Pad Infinity, I'm reading from multiple websites that the price will most likely be around $785USD. That's way to pricey for me but I'm leaning towards keeping my TF300 anyways. Compared to the Acer, the screen is really the only big difference. Not sure if I want to trade something good for something that could be faulty just for the screen.

For me it was the price.
I can tinker with it as much as I want to without being overly afraid of bricking it.
On top of that it's got really nice specs.
Good processing power, decent screen, awesome sound.
And cheap!
It's bang-for-buck galore. Not the best but definitely really, really good for the price.

No comparison between the tf700 and the a700. Besides having the ips+ display, keyboard docking ability, better camera with flash, the tf700 will have the latest tegra 3 version and clocked at 1.6 with the 1080p screen. The a700 is running the same tegra 3 version as the a510 at 1.3 running a 1080p screen. The a500 is also running ddr 2 ram as the tf700 should be running the same as the tf300 ddr 3.
For 50.00 more I pick the tf700. So wait for the tf700. 1 month away at the most.
P.S. I read that someone inside Asus said the tf700 will come out at 499.99.

leroybrute said:
No comparison between the tf700 and the a700. Besides having the ips+ display, keyboard docking ability, better camera with flash, the tf700 will have the latest tegra 3 version and clocked at 1.6 with the 1080p screen. The a700 is running the same tegra 3 version as the a510 at 1.3 running a 1080p screen. The a500 is also running ddr 2 ram as the tf700 should be running the same as the tf300 ddr 3.
For 50.00 more I pick the tf700. So wait for the tf700. 1 month away at the most.
P.S. I read that someone inside Asus said the tf700 will come out at 499.99.
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yes, you're making a good decision
this is what i'm doing too. if they release it at the end of June, then we only have to wait a half month
hopefully $499 is the price for the wifi only version, not the 4G LTE version with contract

nooktablet said:
yes, you're making a good decision
this is what i'm doing too. if they release it at the end of June, then we only have to wait a half month
hopefully $499 is the price for the wifi only version, not the 4G LTE version with contract
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We have 3 tf300 in the house but at least one will be replaced by the tf700.

NCRoadster said:
Thanks for the replies.
I have thought about it, and my most wanted features are:
Processing Speed: Looks like tegra 3 is the best right now. I do like the processor, and I think it makes more sense to have that in a tablet vs a phone because the tablet will have a bigger battery. I see that the new tablets coming out have 2GB of ram. I'm pretty excited about that.
Display: I do want to do some basic photo editing on the tablet, and look at my pics taken with my phone. 1080p would be nice, but not necessary.
Hardware quality: The Prime's issues really bummed me out. I hope Asus does better with the Infinity.
Updates: I was looking at the Galaxy Tab 7.7. but it's still on Honeycomb. This is unacceptable. Good thing Asus is quick to update their products.
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Ive had A LOT of tablets, and currently own 2 TF300's, and the galaxy tab 7.7. And love both for different reasons. The 7.7 has the best screen out of all Ive had, but as you pointed out the lack of updates from Samsung sucks, but I still love it. And once it does get ICS Ill love it even more. But for the 10" market the TF300 is hard to beat. After several TF300's with dust, hair, fuzz under the screen, and a dead pixel I finally have a good 32gb. I also have a 16gb thats currently being repaired at Asus and the repair is being paid for by Best Buy. Ill be returning that one for a refund when I get it back. But despite all this I love my TF300.

Infinity TF700 vs Iconia a700

Lot of negative comments on this forum. For those of us still on the fence who have been holding off - is there anything else out there that DOES meet everyones lofty requirements?
I've been thinking about the a700. I've seen it and used it and liked the screen, but haven't been able to compare to the TF700 screen. Anyone used both - pros and cons - know about the heat issue - had an a510 and disabled antivirus and never had any heat issues in normal use so not too concerned about that. The a700 has much better speakers as well.
Also just purchased a Toshiba Excite 7.7 - best tablet I have ever owned - insanely good Super amoled screen. Any Excite 7.7 owners that have used a TF700 and have compared the two screens - I'm doubting I could get used to anything else after using the Super amoled - but am still tempted by the TF700's super IPS+.

Don't buy Acer. Get the nexus 7 if you're low on money.

Prior to purchasing Transformer Infinity I did lots of google search everday to see what's the review like for transformer infinity. You will find many Iconia a700 reviews referring to TF700, and pretty much all I saw was a700 is not quite as good as TF700 except the price. Supposedly it gets really warm, everything lags, heavier etc.

jdeoxys said:
Don't buy Acer. Get the nexus 7 if you're low on money.
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Money is no concern. Bought the Excite 7.7 which is arguably the most overpriced tablet out there - paying for a Super Amoled + screen and Tegra 3 quad core.
Just interested in the best tablet available.
And don't buy Acer - could you qualify that with a because....
The nexus 7 is having quite a few problems - their forum is as negative as the Infinity.

Digital Man said:
Money is no concern. Bought the Excite 7.7 which is arguably the most overpriced tablet out there - paying for a Super Amoled + screen and Tegra 3 quad core.
Just interested in the best tablet available.
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Get an ipad.
Trolled hard.

jdeoxys said:
Get an ipad.
Trolled hard.
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Thought about that too - ipad Retina display and crapple OS vs Excite 7.7 Super Amoled vs TF700 Super IPS+ vs Acer a700 with 1080p and superior speakers and the winnner is.....
See that's where I get stuck....
Really curious to hear from those who have owned both the a700 and the TF700
Really don't like the mono speakers on ASUS tablets. I have a TF300 - louder than the transformer prime - but still lopsided and mono. Wondering, if the screens are similar, why the Acer with better speakers is not a viable choice. Or does the Super IPS+ screen so outclass the a700 screen that its worth sacrificing decent speakers? As for Acer quality - not hearing great things about ASUS quality either these days so......

Digital Man said:
Thought about that too - ipad Retina display and crapple OS vs Excite 7.7 Super Amoled vs TF700 Super IPS+ vs Acer a700 with 1080p and superior speakers and the winnner is.....
See that's where I get stuck....
Really curious to hear from those who have owned both the a700 and the TF700
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Heh, didn't see my little thing at the end there did you.
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If money is not an option buy them all and try them all out at the same time for the 30 or 45 day return period. Then pick your winner. I used to do that but it takes up a lot of time and stressful.
I still think the TF700 will be the winner as long as they get fixes out quickly.

Digital Man said:
The nexus 7 is having quite a few problems - their forum is as negative as the Infinity.
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Wonder why........ oh I get it!! That's because its the same damn company that made both tablets.

ajamils said:
Wonder why........ oh I get it!! That's because its the same damn company that made both tablets.
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Maximum butt pain go.
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I have both the Acer a700 and the Asus TF700 in front of me right now. I have had the Acer a couple weeks and I'm on the second one. The Acer has a very nice screen in fact one of the best I have seen until I got the Asus yesterday. It makes the Acer screen seem dull. I have heat problems with the Acer and it seems to lock up so I have to shut down frequently and restart.
I like the sound on the Acer along with the rubber backing make it easy to hold but all in all I like the Asus better. It's not as laggy as the Acer and it doesn't get near as hot. It lighter and a little faster. I don't like the big connector for charging sticking out of the bottom but I think its one nice tablet and match that with a dock and you have a long lasting battery.
That said the Acer is going back and I'm keeping the Asus. I hope the JB update will make it even better.

Here is a video doing a comparison of the Acer with the Asus 300T. Guess who won that battle....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWOKpOPaZbU

I believe in CNET's reviews when they talk about the bad of a product, so if you're like me and don't want to waste your time look at my signature to see how lag the A700 is.

Hey guys, I've owned both these tablets and though i will put my two cents in
First off, my clear winner here is the infinity tab. Most of the complaints on this form are not particularly about the hardware, more app comp ability issues and such. It is a brand new Android tablet, so expect a little time before Asus can release a firmware update, they usually do (based on past history of Asus tablets). Because of that, I can forgive the few basic glitches I have run into. Let me break it down though:
The Acer does get very warm. Not hot, but very very warm. A little bit warmer than the Ipad 3. Not to hard to forgive considering most people would get a case or some protection for it (it really only emits heat from the lower right side of the tablet). However, where the Acer really loses my vote, and why I returned it, is the hardware. Yes; it has a 1080p screen, but you have DDR2 ram and only 1.3ghz processing capabilities, so because of having to push that full HD, its my belief that it just cant keep up sometimes. The Asus has DDR3 (clocked higher as well) and 1.6ghz processing (I've overclocked to 1.8 ghz) so it tends to be able render things better. Asus also puts in better firmware built in. Overall, the Asus is the winner!!

jdeoxys said:
Maximum butt pain go.
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O...M...G... I'm really starting to feel you should save up some dollars by stopping taking those drugs and get yourself an anally-inclined prostitute, or a rubber doll.

The real downside to the A700 is the heat issue, or lack of heat dissipation, since the Asus can get as hot but not show it as apparent. The Acer has a much better sound system then the awful TF700 mono speaker (why Asus, why?) which is fairly important for a multimedia device. Yes, the Acer is clocked less but it appears the Asus is also having a hard time keeping up which points to the Android system needing some high res tweaking. The real setback will be the community... The Asus will have alot of support built around it while the Acer doesn't seem to have attracted many developer inclined people. This is mostly due to the panned reviews, and the overshadow that the Infinity and mostly the Nexus 7 has cast over it. It's still a good tablet for those that are less demanding which are mostly people not affiliated with this website. I have one and will stick with it since it works for what I need it for which is web surfing, watching movies and listening to music... And yes, that guy is highly annoying and played out already.

Another former A700 owner here, now running with an Infinity.
I too, will back up the feedback that other "dual owners" here have given. I really wanted to love the A700, but the heat issues made it unusable for me. Were the speakers better on the A700? Yes. Did the A700 subjectively feel rock solid? Yes. Did the A700's screen look damn good? Yes.
But the TF700 is stable. The TF700's screen looks better to my eyes. And the TF700 doesn't get insanely hot after what should be normal usage conditions (i.e. gaming).

I'll keep it short.... Get the asus TF700T.
It has been said before and i agree 100%! My Acer A700 has also been send back to the store it came from(because of the heat issue and reboots).
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium

ajamils said:
Wonder why........ oh I get it!! That's because its the same damn company that made both tablets.
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If you go to any forums with a new product, you will come away leaving negative, because people only post when they have issues. They are not going to sit and post all day about how much they love their tablets.
I was surprised to hear you say that about the Nexus 7. I own one and couldn't be happier. If you go to the forums looking to see what issues there are, you will definitely come away feeling negative as well.
Even on this forum, I skimmed through (my tf700 is on the way) and did not see "real" issues, nothing like the weak wifi/no GPS fiasco of the prime which is "hardware". The i/o thing seems to only affect people in very certain situations and imho is overblown. Even then I think it is fixable.
When looking for issues, I look for hardware issues and limitations.
For example, from the reviews I have read, the A700 is just a A501 with 1080p screen. The problem is that it uses the same toned down version of the tegra3. Thus, reviews complained about how sluggish it sometimes is, especially for a tegra 3. That's something I don't hink they can ever totally "fix". If they overclock it more, the heat issue witll be worse.
I know the 7.7 screen AMOLED must look nice but what is the dpi on that thing. It should be slightly worse than nexus 7 and tf700. Not as bad as the 768p 10" inchers or ipad1/2 though. For me once I stared at the Nexus 7 screen with its dpi and web surfed on it, I could not go back to my tf300 anymore (as much as I loved it), and returned it to get an Infinity.

[Q] should i get the tf300 or the tf700 ? i feel so torn :S

okay... so the time has come to get one of these fantastic things
soo ofcourse im thhinking of geting either the 300 or the 700 but cant decide
the main things i cant decide on is the fact that the screen resolution is better on the 700 compared to 300, but then again would i really notice it that much? another thing is the fact that the 300 dont have gorillaglas, wich makes me think its gonna look like a wreck after two days.
what i like about the 300 is the good price, also i can get it in 3g version, which is practical, but not important for me.
apart from this i think both of them are equally good devices :/ what do i do???

TF300T. The TF700 is too expensive, the tab will run slower because of its resolution (and most of the games cannot run at such resolution), the development for it sucks (at least from what I've been reading). If I could go back in time, I would still buy the TF300T

IAmNice said:
I bought the 300 and im.new here. Gorilla glass or not if you drop it you are s
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i dont think i i would drop it att any time... its about being able to drag your finger over the screen without scratching it... i often have nightmares where im back to the early 2000nds with an old **** cellphone and im able t scratch it by looking to hard at it

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Normal corning Glass is still very nice. I come from an x8 with bas glass but its not scartched at all. Maybe its just me im very careful.
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meeeh skeptical

try to not use your finger to touch the screen, just use it the way you should, then you'll be fine, it won't get scratches easily

I've had the 300 for about three months now, and if I'd have to make the decision between the 700 and the 300, I'd probably get the 700. While using ICS, I had the 300 overclocked to 1.5GHz, and the extra couple of hundred megahertz really did make a difference when using the tablet. Now back to stock JB, I find the device a lot more sluggish.
But the number one reason I'd buy the 700 is the display. The DPI on a 10 inch 1280x800 screen is just too low. This is of course a matter of personal preference, but I will never be buying such a low resolution device again.
Of course, would I pay the price they're asking for the 700, after using a 300? No way!

lol no competition, get the tf700. You can price match it at best buy for 347.49. So basically you are paying less for the more powerful tablet. And the comments about it being slow...complete bs. Fastest tablet i have ever owned.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

Also once JB gets here this tablet will be perfect. The 300 got jb and it was clear asus was using it as a beta to refine JB.
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minor competition.....
pierrekid said:
lol no competition, get the tf700. You can price match it at best buy for 347.49. So basically you are paying less for the more powerful tablet. And the comments about it being slow...complete bs. Fastest tablet i have ever owned.
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given i find the tf700 to have a sexy screen, pop on over to all the complaints people have with the 700 in there forums, screen lift/boot loop/easy bricking/ bad bleeding/ screen raise "body separates from the screen"/ and some other issues i forget, the boot loop and brick are not software issues, but actually a hardware glitch that sometimes can be hard to fix, due to screen compression on the internal components etc. so think of it that way, the tf300 has an ok screen, no real hardware or software issues, "except on Asus JB OTA"/ and of course its backing isnt so hot but hey, i prefer a working machine over an over priced item that is full of hardware defects.

How is the TF300 after the JB update?
I bought the TF300 pre-JB and returned it as I couldn't handle the repeated "App Not Responding" issues. I have and regularly sync a GMail account, Facebook and Google Reader. Every 5-10 mins the browser would stop responding because something was syncing in the background.
Does this still happen on the TF300 post-JB? I'm ideally looking at the TF700 but I know the I/O isn't improved in the TF700....
Comments on the TF700 performance (with background syncing) would be appreciated too...
Thanks in advance

JamesRC said:
How is the TF300 after the JB update?
I bought the TF300 pre-JB and returned it as I couldn't handle the repeated "App Not Responding" issues. I have and regularly sync a GMail account, Facebook and Google Reader. Every 5-10 mins the browser would stop responding because something was syncing in the background.
Does this still happen on the TF300 post-JB? I'm ideally looking at the TF700 but I know the I/O isn't improved in the TF700....
Comments on the TF700 performance (with background syncing) would be appreciated too...
Thanks in advance
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You should have just rooted there was no need to return it. Or even exchanged it cuz i never got that problem when i got mine. i even got my stepson one and he hasn't had that problem either
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I was choosing between this 2. Finally the decision to go for TF300TG, since I want:
- Longer battery life. Very important if I can't find a charging point.
- 3G data. I know I can use my wifi hotspot of my Galaxy Note, but I had extra data SIM for use and prefer the convenient.
- More affordable than TF700. Yes, TF700 is beautiful, but is not within my budget.
- Lastly, I notice community in TF300T is "happier".

bige914 said:
given i find the tf700 to have a sexy screen, pop on over to all the complaints people have with the 700 in there forums, screen lift/boot loop/easy bricking/ bad bleeding/ screen raise "body separates from the screen"/ and some other issues i forget, the boot loop and brick are not software issues, but actually a hardware glitch that sometimes can be hard to fix, due to screen compression on the internal components etc. so think of it that way, the tf300 has an ok screen, no real hardware or software issues, "except on Asus JB OTA"/ and of course its backing isnt so hot but hey, i prefer a working machine over an over priced item that is full of hardware defects.
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.....like i said, i have none of those issues. So the people complaining probably picked up a bad unit. Mine is perfect. No justification for picking up the tf300 over the tf700, unless your into the plastic thing and low res screen... just saying
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lenrek said:
I was choosing between this 2. Finally the decision to go for TF300TG, since I want:
- Longer battery life. Very important if I can't find a charging point.
- 3G data. I know I can use my wifi hotspot of my Galaxy Note, but I had extra data SIM for use and prefer the convenient.
- More affordable than TF700. Yes, TF700 is beautiful, but is not within my budget.
- Lastly, I notice community in TF300T is "happier".
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Ive maxed out my battery life on performance at 16 hours...
The 4g version of our tablet is coming out a week or so
Price match for 347, so cheaper than the tf300
Dont know what threads your looking at, but most of the people on our forums are happy
...Overall, i would say a home run for the 700
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

JamesRC said:
How is the TF300 after the JB update?
I bought the TF300 pre-JB and returned it as I couldn't handle the repeated "App Not Responding" issues. I have and regularly sync a GMail account, Facebook and Google Reader. Every 5-10 mins the browser would stop responding because something was syncing in the background.
Does this still happen on the TF300 post-JB? I'm ideally looking at the TF700 but I know the I/O isn't improved in the TF700....
Comments on the TF700 performance (with background syncing) would be appreciated too...
Thanks in advance
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I rooted mine and install setcpu and autokiller to tweak the system abit. I did not flash custom ROM, just root only. So far, no major issue. I am using TF300TG, so no JB for me. I do occasionally encounter "App Not Responding", but not until a point I can't tolerate it.

Thanks all. How is performance when updating apps as well? I'm reading good thing about Zeus ROM but is the i/O really improved or is it bench hacks?
I have a cheap Chinese tab and it matches the i/O of the infinity but still lags when syncing too (quadrant 4000 on i/O, antutu 800 i/o)
Cheers

JamesRC said:
Thanks all. How is performance when updating apps as well? I'm reading good thing about Zeus ROM but is the i/O really improved or is it bench hacks?
I have a cheap Chinese tab and it matches the i/O of the infinity but still lags when syncing too (quadrant 4000 on i/O, antutu 800 i/o)
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Well depends. On the tf700 zues is flawless. Honestly there is no comparison between these two tablet. The tf700 if FAR superior to the tf300.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

Cheers for your input! Are you running Zeus now? Is it a big improvement?

JamesRC said:
Cheers for your input! Are you running Zeus now? Is it a big improvement?
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Massive improvement. The tf700 was beast without zues. Now....zomg
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Sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying infinty

I sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying the infinity. It wasnt any problems with the note. I read alot, and i find the resolution is a major let down for me. The screen have a superb quality on images, but on text its not quite good as a high resolution screen.
Ive followed a bit on this forum. Seems like this pad got so many problems. Are you satisfied with your infinty? Should I wait for the next pad?

007shaolin said:
I sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying the infinity. It wasnt any problems with the note. I read alot, and i find the resolution is a major let down for me. The screen have a superb quality on images, but on text its not quite good as a high resolution screen.
Ive followed a bit on this forum. Seems like this pad got so many problems. Are you satisfied with your infinty? Should I wait for the next pad?
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I would wait now after I know better..
Probably would wait that Samsung brings some high res non plastic out. Asus has lost my confidence in them

I love it.
I bought mine 5 weeks ago and have no regrets. I use it every day. Even though there are some problems, they aren't show-stoppers. The Infinity is, in my book, still the best tablet. The issues will be ironed out - if not by Asus, then by our own developers. If you're OCD and your tablet has to be perfect, keep looking... check back in the next month or two and see how the TF700 is with Jelly Bean. I'm enjoying the heck out of mine and love knowing that it'll only get better and better. Just my 2 cents.

You get a FHD screen and dock. You also get less stability and some questionable design choices with the terrible ssd nand and below average battery life due to the tegra 3 and fhd screen. Apple had the sense to use a better dedicated gpu and almost double the battery size for the fhd screen.
The tf700 does a lot of things fine but it has been a trial in patience. My tf300 had much better performance. The tf700 should've had an upgraded gpu, battery, and sad. It got none if these things. They seemed to spend all their time fixing the mistakes of the prime and did not anticipate issues with introducing a fhd screen.
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007shaolin said:
I sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying the infinity. It wasnt any problems with the note. I read alot, and i find the resolution is a major let down for me. The screen have a superb quality on images, but on text its not quite good as a high resolution screen.
Ive followed a bit on this forum. Seems like this pad got so many problems. Are you satisfied with your infinty? Should I wait for the next pad?
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I chose the Infinity over the Note for the same reason, the FHD and the fact I read a lot. I am satisfied with it. You're in a good position now to decide this for yourself since the issues are mostly known already. I've not had quality issues, so far, but performance is lower than that of the Note. Would I still buy it again today? Yes, I think so. I upgraded from a Nook Color (on CM7) and since getting the Infinity I've been spending a ton of hours on it and enjoy it so much that I can't see myself returning it and just waiting (or going with lower res). If you have another tablet you're OK with as a stop gap then maybe wait, if not then go for it and enjoy it. In 2 years time we're likely to upgrade anyway and it's not like it's a pain to use now, it's just not as perfect as one would hope from a flagship product.
Another option is to wait for JB and decide then, that is if you feel you can't stomach the current reported performance / stability issues (which I seldom come across personally).

Go for it! Don't worry about the reports of the "horrible SSD", etc - the tablet runs fine... Some people put way too much stock in benchmark results.
The majority of users don't have 2gb files downloading in the background while trying to do other work, so the "SSD slowness" isn't even noticeable for most people.
Jelly Bean is supposed to be released very soon as well, so that should also boost performance. I have a Nexus 7, which is also manufactured by Asus (with the same "horrible" SSD) and it runs beautifully. I expect the TF700 performance to be similar to the Nexus 7 with Jelly Bean...
I would, however, recommend buying at a local retailer if possible - Asus quality control has been really bad on the TF700, so there is a chance that you may need to exchange it once or twice before getting a "good" one...
Besides, if you find you don't like it, you can always return it....
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CandyAndy said:
I would wait now after I know better..
Probably would wait that Samsung brings some high res non plastic out. Asus has lost my confidence in them
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Feel the same way, Infinity might be Aluminum but it's made so terribly with the separating glass and cheap internal memory that is believed to be the reason this, otherwise great tablet, has i/o issues.

Just get it! The more you read the more you let others control your thinking and provides the haters sway your thinking. Unless that's what your looking for, its a great tablet. I love the keyboard combo and battery life is superb for someone that watches movies and shows daily. FULL HD is a must! Super IPS+ can't be beat. I rarely have to charge my tablet either. Now that Jelly Bean is confirmed, its even more appealing now then ever. Just go for it. Buy it at Best Buy so you'll have 30 days to decide.
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I'm not a hater, I'm just saying the Infinity could be better than it is and I think it's worth waiting for something else. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the tab especially now with browser2ram but it's definitely got a LOT of issues.
The biggest annoyance is that I have to restart the tab almost daily if I want to play Dead Trigger, also Asus left out the drivers for the PS3 controller so you NEED to root if you want to use one over bluetooth as opposed to every other ics device. The battery should have been bigger, I've drained it in sub 4 hours before from 100 to 3% playing Jelly Defense. Granted, that's a lot of Jelly Defense but it should last longer than that. The i/o issues is the biggest thing, browsing on this tab with Chrome is unbearable at best. Two things make it a lot better to browse on, Dolphin Pad beta and the browser2ram apk although the latter of which only works with the default browser.
Again, I don't hate the Infinity and I enjoy using it everyday but it cost a good amount of money and it's frustrating that Asus cut corners and it shows. Asus customer service also seems like it leaves a lot to be desired.

Somehow i feel like I shouldn't sell my note. It has absolute no problems. no lag, no hickups, no force close, fast browser, a very good pen, it made of plastic but feels very solid, i accidental dropped it once and it got no scratches, no damages where made. Man i wish samsung made a tablet with hd+ screen.
Btw, I bought the infinity over internet, the store got 45 days with full right to return if you are not satisfied. Finger cross that this tablet wont make any problem for me.

Re: Some of the points brought up here.
Battery life: From my perspective, this thing has fantastic battery life. I manage my resources pretty well, though. With the dock, it goes into unprecedented territory, I can use the system all day long on a full dock+tab charge.
Usage: If your primary application is reading, I don't think you're going to see many problems in the way of stability and you will find the screen wonderful and highly usable.
Stability: This is a tough one. If you want something that is super stable without any maintenance/tweaking/learning, yes, look elsewhere. My system as I have configured it only really has frequent problems with 3D games and that is due to a kernel graphics driver bug that has a fix coming out with the next OS update (so I am hopeful this one last issue will be fixed). Using this tab as a daily driver, I do not really have any major issues at this point, it's as stable and usable as any other android device I have owned except for the gaming problem.
Storage: The slow RAM everyone is complaining about here is nand flash that functions like a virtual hard disk. The actual system memory is perfectly functional dynamic RAM. The end result of this is that sometimes, this slow "disk" will act as a bottleneck and make the entire tab slow down. Honestly, the only time I see much of this is when running benchmarks, LOL. My ADHD is not so bad that I want to throw the tablet against a wall if there is a 300 millisecond pause when performing some operation. So, yeah, I DO think this is a weakness and a poor design choice by ASUS' engineers but in practice it is rarely a real world issue for me.
QA: Some folks have had some legitimately serious issues but I think a huge majority of the stuff that is cited here could have been mitigated by buying at a brick and mortar store with a decent return policy. I have not seen any hardware defect on the tablets I have owned that could not be indentified and exchanged within a 24 hour period. On a forum where people are coming to look for help, you're going to hear the horror stories so while I feel sorry for these folks I do not think some of these issues are super high frequency.
If you don't have that kind of safety net available in your purchasing situation, then, yes, I would be concerned about physical defects in a TF tab and would recommend avoiding one. But if you are able to buy it at a decent place like Best Buy, etc, you will find a good one and you will not get burned by this with the caveat that you may have to be patient enough to evaluate/inspect and return one.
Bottom Line: It's a great tab, the dock is amazing, the screen is glorious, the CPU is ridiculously fast. It has some minor stability issues that require a bit of learning configuring tweaking. It has slow I/O that can sometimes unnecessarily throttle the CPU, so if you are going to download torrents or surf high bandwidth adult web sites it may not be for you LOL . Since ASUS QA has been weak I would also only recommend purchasing in a situation where an exchange can be handled easily.
FWIW, there's no tab out right now I would trade it for.

Unibrow said:
I'm not a hater, I'm just saying the Infinity could be better than it is and I think it's worth waiting for something else. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the tab especially now with browser2ram but it's definitely got a LOT of issues.
The biggest annoyance is that I have to restart the tab almost daily if I want to play Dead Trigger, also Asus left out the drivers for the PS3 controller so you NEED to root if you want to use one over bluetooth as opposed to every other ics device. The battery should have been bigger, I've drained it in sub 4 hours before from 100 to 3% playing Jelly Defense. Granted, that's a lot of Jelly Defense but it should last longer than that. The i/o issues is the biggest thing, browsing on this tab with Chrome is unbearable at best. Two things make it a lot better to browse on, Dolphin Pad beta and the browser2ram apk although the latter of which only works with the default browser.
Again, I don't hate the Infinity and I enjoy using it everyday but it cost a good amount of money and it's frustrating that Asus cut corners and it shows. Asus customer service also seems like it leaves a lot to be desired.
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That's good your not a hater. Honestly every tablet you will come across will have issues. NOTE, IPADS, TRANSFORMERS. I can also sit here and advise others to wait for the next best thing but that kind of mentality will just prevent you from enjoying the now. The now is the Infinity.
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I also just returned my Note 10.1 for the Infinity. I really liked the Note for the s-pen and all, but I quickly found that i never used it for what it was for. For me the tablet is a consumption device and to be used as a mobile solution for my online classes. The Infinity does this very well, and the screen resolution is more noticeable than i expected.
So far very happy with the Infinity.
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jjdevega said:
That's good your not a hater. Honestly every tablet you will come across will have issues. NOTE, IPADS, TRANSFORMERS. I can also sit here and advise others to wait for the next best thing but that kind of mentality will just prevent you from enjoying the now. The now is the Infinity.
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I'm aware you could sit and always be waiting for the next best thing and that thing will never come. I just think, now knowing Asus cheaped out, it's worth waiting for something else. Maybe Jelly Bean will fix a lot of the issues I have with this thing and my opinion will change, not sure. I hope it does
Having said all of that, the screen does kick an insurmountable amount of ass. It's just downright gorgeous.

007shaolin said:
I sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying the infinity. It wasnt any problems with the note. I read alot, and i find the resolution is a major let down for me. The screen have a superb quality on images, but on text its not quite good as a high resolution screen.
Ive followed a bit on this forum. Seems like this pad got so many problems. Are you satisfied with your infinty? Should I wait for the next pad?
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I had Galaxy note for 3 weeks and returned it for Infinity. I had infinity before note... and essentially came back because of screen resolution.
If you can wait, you should wait. Simply as others said, longer you wait better system always show up. That's the world of technology. But I doubt nothing that replace Infinity in next a few months for following reasons:
1. Samsung - Just released Note. If they release the higher resolution tablet or even announce about higher resolution tablet within next couple months, that is horrible thing as they will lose its own sales from Note and upset consumer who purchased one. Not only Note, but also they have Windows 8 tablet coming in end of October with high resolution screen but price tag of $1100+. So again, I don't think they want to compete with that either.
2. ASUS - Similar story. They just released infinity and probably purposely made upcoming Windows 8 tablet HD screen rather than FHD, so they won't compete with Infinity. And therefore, again highly doubtful they will be releasing anything new that is complete superior to the infinity within next few months.
Other vendors are similar like Sony and Acer just released their tablets as well.
The uncertain zone is Windows tablet from other vendors; however, among the currently announced windows tablet including from ASUS, Samsung, Acer, Dell, Microsoft (I may be missing some), there is only one with Full HD, which is Samsung's Ativ Smart Pro but this model again costs $1100 but its battery life is 5 hours of DVD play. So to me this proves that most likely all Full HD windows tablet that is coming in near future will be around the same price and likely with poor battery life for a while.
So yeah, basically if you are looking for full HD tablet you won't have much choice for next a few months. But I am sure by the time next iPad rumor start to arise, you see more Android tablet.
*I excluded Kindle HD here, because I simply don't think they are in same class but if you think they are your option, that's another option.
As for my experience, Infinity is much more stable than before for me and the only reason I initially gave up on infinity was too frequent ANR, and too slow browser loading time. Both of which I got it fixed (well ANR is probably not what I did but by firmware). So yes. this is indeed my ideal tablet at the moment.

I just bought my infinity a couple of days ago and I can't be happier. I use it for some ebooks, as I'm a Dr. of Physical Therapy student and the ebooks are MUCH cheaper.
I haven't used the Note, but what sold me on the infinity is how it essentially works like a "netbook" and it has actually replaced my netbook. I only wish there was a better microsoft office app, the app that came pre-loaded isn't the best, but it works.
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vhuynh13 said:
I just bought my infinity a couple of days ago and I can't be happier. I use it for some ebooks, as I'm a Dr. of Physical Therapy student and the ebooks are MUCH cheaper.
I haven't used the Note, but what sold me on the infinity is how it essentially works like a "netbook" and it has actually replaced my netbook. I only wish there was a better microsoft office app, the app that came pre-loaded isn't the best, but it works.
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Office Suite Pro on sale in the Play store for $0.25. Best Office app out there imho.
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clenz said:
Office Suite Pro on sale in the Play store for $0.25. Best Office app out there imho.
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25 cents!! That's amazing deal. Even the app sucks nothing to lose other than 25 cents!! Thanks for the information. I believe retail price is like $15 or $19 like others isn't it?

jjdevega said:
Just get it! The more you read the more you let others control your thinking and provides the haters sway your thinking. Unless that's what your looking for, its a great tablet. I love the keyboard combo and battery life is superb for someone that watches movies and shows daily. FULL HD is a must! Super IPS+ can't be beat. I rarely have to charge my tablet either. Now that Jelly Bean is confirmed, its even more appealing now then ever. Just go for it. Buy it at Best Buy so you'll have 30 days to decide.
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100% agreed.

jjdevega said:
Just get it! The more you read the more you let others control your thinking and provides the haters sway your thinking. Unless that's what your looking for, its a great tablet. I love the keyboard combo and battery life is superb for someone that watches movies and shows daily. FULL HD is a must! Super IPS+ can't be beat. I rarely have to charge my tablet either. Now that Jelly Bean is confirmed, its even more appealing now then ever. Just go for it. Buy it at Best Buy so you'll have 30 days to decide.
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When yuo say you rarely have to charge it, how often is that?
After using mine for reading comics, a few podcasts and tv, web browsing, i find I'm getting 3.5/ 4 hous which is pretty ****.

[Q] N10 or TF700

Hey there,
I'm planning on getting a new 10 inch tab and im very interested in the google nexus 10. However im also considering the asus infinity tf700, i personally prefer the n10, but i've read of it's various issues. can anyone give me some tips?? much appreciated.
Is the file transfer from pc to the n10 slow??
thx

yhchow said:
Hey there,
I'm planning on getting a new 10 inch tab and im very interested in the google nexus 10. However im also considering the asus infinity tf700, i personally prefer the n10, but i've read of it's various issues. can anyone give me some tips?? much appreciated.
Is the file transfer from pc to the n10 slow??
thx
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I dont know about the Nexus 7 much, but I have a Nexus 7 and expect them to be very similar to the NExus 10.
Personally, the tf700 has had a huge increase in speed with 4.2.1. But if you are wanting it to be a gaming tablet more than a typing/work station/everyday tablet, then I would go with the Nexus 10. The GPU on the TF700 is not build to run games on a full HD screen like the one the Nexus 10 has. It is your opinion but I prefer the tf700 because of the keyboard and extra battery, makes it totally worth it. Writing up papers, even this, would be almost painful on the nexus 10 in my opinion, I hate touch screen keyboards .
In the end it is your choice and what you want to use it for. Personally I think the tf700 is the best out there, but not the top for gaming. Also, I am unlocked with CromiX so mine is faster than stock by far.
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
I dont know about the Nexus 7 much, but I have a Nexus 7 and expect them to be very similar to the NExus 10.
Personally, the tf700 has had a huge increase in speed with 4.2.1. But if you are wanting it to be a gaming tablet more than a typing/work station/everyday tablet, then I would go with the Nexus 10. The GPU on the TF700 is not build to run games on a full HD screen like the one the Nexus 10 has. It is your opinion but I prefer the tf700 because of the keyboard and extra battery, makes it totally worth it. Writing up papers, even this, would be almost painful on the nexus 10 in my opinion, I hate touch screen keyboards .
In the end it is your choice and what you want to use it for. Personally I think the tf700 is the best out there, but not the top for gaming. Also, I am unlocked with CromiX so mine is faster than stock by far.
Tylor
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Thanks for the quick response.
^^

It depends on what you need from a tablet and what you plan to do with it. I can't speak for you, but I can tell you what it was for me.
The Nexus 10 had 4 main disadvantages in regards to the TF700 that were dealbreakers:
- No MicroSD slot.
- No dock: With it comes a USB port, SD slot, keyboard and extra battery.
- Less battery life (because of the TF700's extended dock battery.)
- Lower screen brightness.
Frankly the MiscroSD alone was enough to persuade me over. 128GB of additional space is quite a lot. (I have 2 microSD's of 64GB, with one of them in an adapter in the dock so I can switch them around.) And the N10 only has a max of 32GB internal, as opposed to the 64GB of the TF700. If you watch films, that's very revelant. A single BluRay is already +-10-20GB!
But I'm also on the road an awful lot (about 7 hours a day), so the additional battery (another 9 hours of video!) is a real lifesaver.
And writing entire novels on a touchscreen is a nightmare, so I needed the dock; Yes you could use a bluetooth keyboard, but that eats battery. This one adds battery!
On top of that I need the USB slot for my 2tb portable harddrive and the OTG adapters on every other device I tried only gave me a "Voltage too high" error on every portable drive I tried, even some pendrives.
And the brightness matters because as a photographer I need outside visibility on my tab. If I can't review my photos on scene on it, the tab is useless to me.
Last but not least, with the dock attached, a mouse hooked up to the USB and Splashtop THD running, I have my pc with me everywhere. That's invaluable to me.
Yes. The TF700 has some issues too. I won't deny that.
It can be a bit sluggish on stock from time to time. (though mine seems to suffer less from this than others. Or maybe I'm just more patient.).
Also, some people with devices from Best Buy seem to be suffering from quite lousy build quality. I don't know why, but I haven't heard anyone from Europe having the same issues as them. Or maybe there's just a larger percentage of best buy users here that makes it seem that way.
Unlocking the device voids the warranty. I do not know how this is for the N10, but it might be relevant to you if you intent to flash custom roms.