I am suffering from the suspend_backoff wakelock. Under the partial wakelocks section the highest counts are "WifiStateMachine" and "DHCP". I am S-off and running Viper 3.2.6 with the kernel it comes with. I have done a full wipe (wipe cache, dalvik cache, even flashed Calkulin's_FORMAT_ALL_for_One_XL.zip because I previously changed recoveries), and I have not installed any extra apps except for BetterBatteryStats.
Now, I believe I have read through every forum thread about this issue. No, I do not have Chrome installed. "Wifi Best Performace" is unchecked. I am not signed into any accounts, including Google or Facebook. Location services are disabled. It only occurs when Wifi is turned on. The closest thread I've come across would be:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106529
The thing is, I am using my college campus's internet, so I cannot simply get rid of the "broadcast storm," if it even is the problem. If this were my problem, however, wouldn't many Android phone users on the college campus also be suffering from suspend_backoff? I guess the next step for investigating this problem would be to inspect my friends' Android phones and see if they have the same problem. I can't imagine this being a widespread problem though, as there would be many more complaints about this issue.
Does anyone have any suggestions/thoughts to help me out? I will appreciate any feedback
Also, I have monitored Wifi network activity on my phone using Wireshark, and I got a billion DHCP solicit requests. I do not know if this is pertinent information...
StopWastingMyTime said:
I am suffering from the suspend_backoff wakelock. Under the partial wakelocks section the highest counts are "WifiStateMachine" and "DHCP". I am S-off and running Viper 3.2.6 with the kernel it comes with. I have done a full wipe (wipe cache, dalvik cache, even flashed Calkulin's_FORMAT_ALL_for_One_XL.zip because I previously changed recoveries), and I have not installed any extra apps except for BetterBatteryStats.
Now, I believe I have read through every forum thread about this issue. No, I do not have Chrome installed. "Wifi Best Performace" is unchecked. I am not signed into any accounts, including Google or Facebook. Location services are disabled. It only occurs when Wifi is turned on. The closest thread I've come across would be:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106529
The thing is, I am using my college campus's internet, so I cannot simply get rid of the "broadcast storm," if it even is the problem. If this were my problem, however, wouldn't many Android phone users on the college campus also be suffering from suspend_backoff? I guess the next step for investigating this problem would be to inspect my friends' Android phones and see if they have the same problem. I can't imagine this being a widespread problem though, as there would be many more complaints about this issue.
Does anyone have any suggestions/thoughts to help me out? I will appreciate any feedback
Also, I have monitored Wifi network activity on my phone using Wireshark, and I got a billion DHCP solicit requests. I do not know if this is pertinent information...
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Get a separate router to grab the Internet and stay off campus lan? This way you can have your own lan while using campus Internet.
This is purely speculation of course. I've never had this issue or tried to resolve an issue like this. The real fix would be to ask your net administrator to incorporate the spanning tree protocol.
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Thanks for responding. I don't have a router, and I don't want to spend money on one. Here is another thread for another phone that seems to have the same issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1915859
The OP is getting another wakelock WLAN_RX_WAKE, but his symptons are the exact same. Plus, he is using a university network too. Doesn't seem to be related to phones, as the OP is using a Galaxy Nexus, while the last post in that thread indicates that S3s can have the same problem. Furthermore, the OP states that his phone used to be fine until he flashed CM10, after which the wakelock started appearing. Then even after full wipes, the issue persists!!!!! I have also flashed CM10 in the past. That thread has not been resolved at all. What is going on??
Edit: I found another thread with similar problems:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/16134-ke...opers.com/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=39794631
StopWastingMyTime said:
Thanks for responding. I don't have a router, and I don't want to spend money on one. Here is another thread for another phone that seems to have the same issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1915859
The OP is getting another wakelock WLAN_RX_WAKE, but his symptons are the exact same. Plus, he is using a university network too. Doesn't seem to be related to phones, as the OP is using a Galaxy Nexus, while the last post in that thread indicates that S3s can have the same problem. Furthermore, the OP states that his phone used to be fine until he flashed CM10, after which the wakelock started appearing. Then even after full wipes, the issue persists!!!!! That thread has not been resolved at all. What is going on??
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If the problem isn't with the device, how do you expect to fix it by doing something with your device?
I'm with exad, the issue sounds like it's with the wifi setup at your university. Maybe talk to the admins there??
Ok, I will try talking to the net admins here. Also, just to be sure it's a network problem, I'm trying to install BetterBatteryStats on my friends' phones to see if they are also experiencing the same thing on Wifi. So far, 3 out of the 3 people I have asked had less than 5% battery left when I asked them...I managed to charge one of them up a little bit, but then BetterBatteryStats kept crashing on the phone. I will keep trying.
If you're afraid cm10 caused it. S-off if you're not already and run an ruu. That will return everything to stock. If it continues its the network. If not it was your phone and cm10.
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Attached are my dmseg.txt and logcat.txt. I hope I did the logcat.txt correctly. I think the WifiStateMachine stuff in the logcat.txt should be more closely examined. I don't know what it means. Does it reveal anything?
Running an RUU seems like a significant time investment for me. Wouldn't I have to re-root my device, reflash a recovery, unlock bootloader and stuff? Plus, I don't know which RUU to use, so I would have to put time to do research. It even seems a little risky. I am S-off though.
I'm waiting on my friend's responses for their BetterBatteryStats logs. I really want to know what shows up, but they're taking their sweet time...If they are having the same problem, I can conclude for sure it's the network. Right now I think it's the network but have no concrete evidence.
StopWastingMyTime said:
Attached are my dmseg.txt and logcat.txt. I hope I did the logcat.txt correctly. I think the WifiStateMachine stuff in the logcat.txt should be more closely examined. I don't know what it means. Does it reveal anything?
Running an RUU seems like a significant time investment for me. Wouldn't I have to re-root my device, reflash a recovery, unlock bootloader and stuff? Plus, I don't know which RUU to use, so I would have to put time to do research. It even seems a little risky. I am S-off though.
I'm waiting on my friend's responses for their BetterBatteryStats logs. I really want to know what shows up, but they're taking their sweet time...If they are having the same problem, I can conclude for sure it's the network. Right now I think it's the network but have no concrete evidence.
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run the ruu. the ruu takes 10 minutes and wipes everything.
the ruu doesn't relock the bootloader so you can just flash recovery after and flash a rom.
here's the list of ruus with links. pick the carrier your phone came from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37227608
You can post whatever logcats and dmesgs you want. this is how you test to narrow down the cause.if i can invest the time to help you figure out the cause of your problem you can invest the time to complete the steps to figure out the cause. if its indeed cm10 there will most likely be no fix other than to not flash it.
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exad said:
run the ruu. the ruu takes 10 minutes and wipes everything.
the ruu doesn't relock the bootloader so you can just flash recovery after and flash a rom.
here's the list of ruus with links. pick the carrier your phone came from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37227608
You can post whatever logcats and dmesgs you want. this is how you test to narrow down the cause.if i can invest the time to help you figure out the cause of your problem you can invest the time to complete the steps to figure out the cause. if its indeed cm10 there will most likely be no fix other than to not flash it.
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I'm sorry if I implied that I would not run the RUU because it would take too much time. I just did not have the time at that moment to do enough research about it. I do not like to do things blind, so I spent an hour or two reading up on other people's situations. I decided that it is safe to go ahead and run the 3.18 RUU. In fact, it is running right now, and I really hope it's not going to brick.
Thanks exad for the help. The RUU worked fine. I can now say with 100% certainty it's the network that's causing the suspend_backoff wakelocks. I am completely stock and am not even signed into my gmail account. I turn off the Wifi, and the phone sleeps normally. With Wifi on, the suspend_backoff wakelock keeps the phone awake ~80% of the time. Now for the next step...getting my university to change its network protocol?? That seems like a daunting task for a single student at a university.
StopWastingMyTime said:
I'm sorry if I implied that I would not run the RUU because it would take too much time. I just did not have the time at that moment to do enough research about it. I do not like to do things blind, so I spent an hour or two reading up on other people's situations. I decided that it is safe to go ahead and run the 3.18 RUU. In fact, it is running right now, and I really hope it's not going to brick.
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Meh, I was being a **** anyway. Sorry
You'll be fine since you're S-OFF.
Keep me posted.
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StopWastingMyTime said:
Thanks exad for the help. The RUU worked fine. I can now say with 100% certainty it's the network that's causing the suspend_backoff wakelocks. I am completely stock and am not even signed into my gmail account. I turn off the Wifi, and the phone sleeps normally. With Wifi on, the suspend_backoff wakelock keeps the phone awake ~80% of the time. Now for the next step...getting my university to change its network protocol?? That seems like a daunting task for a single student at a university.
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Either that or create your own network that only pulls only internet from the existing network. (Pure speculation, be prepaired to be able to return the router should it not work)
Sorry I couldn't offer a more feasible solution! Good luck friend!
I've been thinking about this problem, and I'm wondering:
Could this problem actually be Android's/the kernel's fault? In other words, could this problem be seen as a bug of Android/the kernel? Should the phone really wake up when it is connected to a certain network with lots of broadcast traffic? Couldn't the phone be programmed to ignore such traffic? From what I can see, this traffic should not even be waking the phone, as it is all DHCPv6 solict requests. What is also interesting to note is that it is DHCPv6 and not DHCP. I do not have any background in networking, but surfing the internet is still dominated by IPv4, correct? IPv6 is mainly for local networks?
I don't know what I'm getting at, but those are my thoughts...
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OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
motocrossmann said:
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
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Great....but why start a new thread on an existing topic about the radio.
cuz he wanted to! so na-na-na-na
motocrossmann said:
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
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Just be sure that you're kaiser is "security unlockt" before installing 1.65.17.10, then there is no problem to change to another radio.
monkey0 said:
Just be sure that you're kaiser is "security unlockt" before installing 1.65.17.10, then there is no problem to change to another radio.
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How can check this ?
Faster4 said:
How can check this ?
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Hold in the camera button then hit reset. On the top of the bootloader screen should say "security unlocked"
Com'on guys. This is a PUBLIC forum. As long as he follow the rules, and I think he is fine. lately I have see so many "police" wants ppl to follow he or her rules.
I understand how difficult to read the same post again and again.
His topic might not interest you, but here I am. I like to know what are the benefits from previous user.
Please do not judge people by your standard.
BTW, what I do not like to see is: "good job", "you the best", "Dutty, you did it again"...etc all the good words. That is what I call a waste of my time. But you see hundreds of posts like that. This is just an example. What I like to see is the "pro" and "con", so I can narrow down the actual benfit of flash to a new ROM. I have never see anyone here saying anthing about this. Everytime when a new ROM update, I probably have to read more than 50% on good words. Tell me about that!!
rac2371 said:
Hold in the camera button then hit reset. On the top of the bootloader screen should say "security unlocked"
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I'm doing everything you say but it shows me the three color screen without say "security unlocked" . What else can I do to unlock it?
Thank you
Being a chef, putting out a special rom for the public takes a great deal of time. They need the certain feedback from users on the rom. The first few posts are cluttered with the good jobs and great rom, but this is the thing to thank the chefs for their time and efforts.
As for this thread, I know its dug up in there, but people have stated the benefits in the 1.65.17.10 radio thread. The Kaiser ROM development forum is really cluttered with a lot of threads so having these redundent threads just makes the development forum more cluttered.
Penske MB said:
Com'on guys. This is a PUBLIC forum. As long as he follow the rules, and I think he is fine. lately I have see so many "police" wants ppl to follow he or her rules.
I understand how difficult to read the same post again and again.
His topic might not interest you, but here I am. I like to know what are the benefits from previous user.
Please do not judge people by your standard.
BTW, what I do not like to see is: "good job", "you the best", "Dutty, you did it again"...etc all the good words. That is what I call a waste of my time. But you see hundreds of posts like that. This is just an example. What I like to see is the "pro" and "con", so I can narrow down the actual benfit of flash to a new ROM. I have never see anyone here saying anthing about this. Everytime when a new ROM update, I probably have to read more than 50% on good words. Tell me about that!!
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Faster4 said:
I'm doing everything you say but it shows me the three color screen without say "security unlocked" . What else can I do to unlock it?
Thank you
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You could follow the info/link in the WiKi
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
That would take you here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
motocrossmann said:
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
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Motorcross,
Tq for yourfeedback. I face the same problem with what u had but mine is more serious!!! My EDGE connection (I am in Malaysia using DiGi) lasts only minutes. 50% of the time a reconnections do not get my connection back and the wait for the disconnection of "E" takes 2-3minutes too. So far as you had mention, all the ROMs and RADIOs i have tried did not solve this issue and no one here had any clue to this. I am really TEMPTED to test this radio from HELL but am worried I may get more hell should it not solve my problem.. Appreciate your input here
thomassster said:
Being a chef, putting out a special rom for the public takes a great deal of time. They need the certain feedback from users on the rom. The first few posts are cluttered with the good jobs and great rom, but this is the thing to thank the chefs for their time and efforts.
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Feedback is far better thanks than just "thanks." If people are saying thanks, then they are probably using the ROM, and if they're using the ROM they should have something to say about it. Even if it's just a few things they like.
motocrossmann said:
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
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I have asked this in the Dutty's ROM section but no answer - so let me try here. I was wondering if this radio would solve a big problem I have had ever since I switched to Dutty's ROM. In HSDPA mode I have lost the feature of simultaneous data and voice. Before I flashed over from the AT&T stock ROM I was able to stream from my Slingbox or Sirius Radio applications and, when I got a phone call, the phone would ring and I could make the call. Post call, the data session would still be active.
With all the Dutty ROMs I have tried once the call comes in - or is placed - the data session ends. BTW - If I switch my SIM over to my Blackjack the simultaneous data/voice feature returns - the BJ has a cooked WM 6.1 ROM also.
Have you found that this radio resolves those issues??
rdecker692000 said:
I have asked this in the Dutty's ROM section but no answer - so let me try here. I was wondering if this radio would solve a big problem I have had ever since I switched to Dutty's ROM. In HSDPA mode I have lost the feature of simultaneous data and voice. Before I flashed over from the AT&T stock ROM I was able to stream from my Slingbox or Sirius Radio applications and, when I got a phone call, the phone would ring and I could make the call. Post call, the data session would still be active.
With all the Dutty ROMs I have tried once the call comes in - or is placed - the data session ends. BTW - If I switch my SIM over to my Blackjack the simultaneous data/voice feature returns - the BJ has a cooked WM 6.1 ROM also.
Have you found that this radio resolves those issues??
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Hmm, I never had that problem and still don't. I have tested simultaneous data with my phone and it works fine pre/post installing this radio.
cmloo said:
Motorcross,
Tq for yourfeedback. I face the same problem with what u had but mine is more serious!!! My EDGE connection (I am in Malaysia using DiGi) lasts only minutes. 50% of the time a reconnections do not get my connection back and the wait for the disconnection of "E" takes 2-3minutes too. So far as you had mention, all the ROMs and RADIOs i have tried did not solve this issue and no one here had any clue to this. I am really TEMPTED to test this radio from HELL but am worried I may get more hell should it not solve my problem.. Appreciate your input here
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Well, I wish I could provide you some good advice on that one, but your problem is quite different than mine. Have you tried changing the GPRS authendication menthod? PAP vs CHAP?
Odd - I have tried a bunch of the Kaiser, Sena and Niki radios with the same issues. Once I go back to the stock AT&T ROM all is well. Definitely not worth running the AT&T ROM for the feature; I may try one of the Non-Dutty ROMs just for a test.
As title says, I went to the theatre today and realized I still had 5 bars of WiFi when I was 20KM away from home, was this a one time glitch or is it a known problem?
sounds familiar....
hey there,
I'm down here in New Zealand with a both versions of device, X & XL
my XL has the problem you speak about.
When i leave my house, it takes for ever to disconnect, pain of course because the 3G or 4G wont flip on while it thinks it is still on wifi.
When i return to my home/SSID the device takes for ever to reconnect, if it even does. i go to the wifi settings, and the connection initiation is just cycling, end attempts to connect, over and over.
I've thought i had fix it once before, by installing a new RUU. I was on RUU 1.77.708.3 Asia, could only find 1.77.708.2.
this seemed to fix disconnection on departure problem, but the cycling and hunting continued when i returned.
I have since found that this must be linked to the bluetooth. I say this because while the wifi is hunting/cycling i flip off the bluetooth and the wifi reconnects within seconds. I tested this more and with bluetooth disabled i have no wifi problems at all, but with bluetooth on, its gives my problems.
The second issue is the bluetooth its self. unlike my flawless desireHD, i can only stream music to my car head-deck, when i get a phone call, the music cuts out like it should, but the phone audio doesn't happen, been like that from the get go. wifi was a problem all the time because this dodgy bluetooth was on all the time so i could listen to music in the car and hopefully one day take calls in the car also.
well i have good news for me, today i flashed CleanROM.3.Standard .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1655011
Today for the first time I can take calls over bluetooth in the car. this is good news because i was certain this was a hardware issue, even it it is, i am confident it can be resolved in the software now.
I'll do a few drive-by's my house tonight to test this wifi, see if that got resolved also. I'll let you know the result later.
I tell you all this in-case our issues are the same, it might save you some time... maybe.
good luck with, and check that bluetooth theory because i'm dying to know if its a common problem.
Cheers
Thank you for that very detailed post.
I also have bluetooth running (connected) to my car and it works flawlessly but it may be a cause for the WiFI staying connected as well. I will turn it off and see how it goes as the week progresses and keep this updated as well.
I would also like to flash clean rom but I am using the Rogers variant so I am worried it might not be compatible.
an_xda said:
As title says, I went to the theatre today and realized I still had 5 bars of WiFi when I was 20KM away from home, was this a one time glitch or is it a known problem?
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This has been a known problem since the HOX has been released.
an_xda said:
As title says, I went to the theatre today and realized I still had 5 bars of WiFi when I was 20KM away from home, was this a one time glitch or is it a known problem?
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First reaction: It's not a glitch, that's just really good WiFi...
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
I did those drive-by's......
Me again...
I did those drive-by's of my house, unfortunately there is no joy for me, still the WiFi behaves the same as before.
Its funny, down here we have assumed that the X is the same as the XL apart from the cpu. But in reality they are two completely different machines.
So I turned off Bluetooth and the problem does not occur anymore, WiFi disconnects as needed but it is obviously not a permanent fix. Another problem is the WiFi being on and off with 5 bars swapping between 4G and WiFi...
CleanROM again......
OK, I was doing some more reading and have since found that the developer of CleanROM has released a GSM patch so the hotspot on his ROMs now work.
You might remember i said earlier in this thread that CleanROM.3 worked best for me but the hotspot didn't work so i couldn't use it.
Now i have CleanROM installed again, Hotspot works, bluetooth both Audio & Phone work, and the WiFi at this stage seems to be doing what it should without having to manually toggle the bluetooth on and off. No apparent bugs to report at this stage.
Software Info on phone says this version is built around 1.29.728.12. I don't know if that means all ICS version of that number are good or not, but again its a place to start. Its looking like some versions have the issue and some don't, this re-assures me that it can be resolved within the software. I don't mind testing this stuff, as long as the developers don't mind developing it, and its a good learning curve.... its all good.
Check this CleanROM work out, it could be your answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1655011
I'll check back in in a day or so and update you on my WiFi situation.
Cheers!
Thanks again for all your research and assistance.
I have the Rogers variant, should be no problem flashing it to CleanROM correct? Also, for each new CleanROM update, I would have to wipe and flash again? Seems troublesome.
Can you advise on the process required to flash the ROM? I am new to Android and the steps in the thread is not as comprehensive.
Many thanks.
hi there, show you how to load roms, thats a big job for me....
...I'm new to this myself, but i know a tutorial that will save me a ton of typing.
you need to do 2 things first, before flashing roms.
1,Unlock your bootloader
2,Install clockworkmod
have a look at this ,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647272
Study this thread, very helpfull. He explains how to install clockworkmod on your device, once you have that done you are 80% there, and you only have to do this process once, once done, flashing roms will always be the last 20%, you never do this again.
Infact flashing roms and backing up your own rom is a very simply task. the commands are on a list, just choose them as you go. To backup, wipe, and flash a new rom takes me less than 10 minutes.
Go to you tube and look at this, this shows you how Clockworkmod works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOQEmQYFEeY
dont be freaked out, take it step by step, you'll be fine.
I also started this thread, regarding working roms for this wifi issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27585586#post27585586
no one has replyed yet, but it might yeild helpfull info later on perhaps
Thanks, I will do this shortly. Will unlocking the bootloader or doing any of the aforementioned steps give me the tampered signature?
Yes
yes, your phone will be marked.
Boot loader will be marked "Unlocked" , even if you relock it, its just gonna say "relocked" . nothing you can do about that.
The boot loader will also say "tampered" if you update the rom, but that msg dissappears completely if you update the phone via an RUU.exe
Can this hurt me with regards to warranty requests? I know I can remove the tampered status by flashing a stock ROM but I am concerned re: bootloader.
whenever i copy/paste, the app crashes.
whenever i try and use GPS and a run tracking program, it takes a LONG time to find a lock. sometimes it will work, sometimes it won't. then, sometimes mid-run i will lose the signal, when my Droid Incredible would be strong in the GPS area during the same running route.
Will Verizon's newest OTA fix any of these issues?
funkpod said:
whenever i copy/paste, the app crashes.
whenever i try and use GPS and a run tracking program, it takes a LONG time to find a lock. sometimes it will work, sometimes it won't. then, sometimes mid-run i will lose the signal, when my Droid Incredible would be strong in the GPS area during the same running route.
Will Verizon's newest OTA fix any of these issues?
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Bump, on cm10, but can't post there. My phone will often show me running parallel to the highway I am on. Or jump around g maps randomly.
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Bump, on cm10, but can't post there. My phone will often show me running parallel to the highway I am on. Or jump around g maps randomly.
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You can use gps test to clear your agps and let it resync will probaly fix the gps issue. As for the others I dont know.
As for the latest OTA, it corrected the "no sim" issue, added remote connection for support, and a new radio iirc. No gps tweaks.
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You can use gps test to clear your agps and let it resync will probaly fix the gps issue. As for the others I dont know.
As for the latest OTA, it corrected the "no sim" issue, added remote connection for support, and a new radio iirc. No gps tweaks.
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Thanks. I tried GPS Status & Toolbox and cleared/redownloaded the aGPS data. Should be the same thing, right? It didn't help. I flashed Bean's ICS ROM last night, so I'm going to give it a GPS workout on the highway tomorrow to see if it makes a difference. If not, isn't it likely the phone itself? Can a software GPS issue follow you across ROMS?
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Thanks. I tried GPS Status & Toolbox and cleared/redownloaded the aGPS data. Should be the same thing, right? It didn't help. I flashed Bean's ICS ROM last night, so I'm going to give it a GPS workout on the highway tomorrow to see if it makes a difference. If not, isn't it likely the phone itself? Can a software GPS issue follow you across ROMS?
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I have been paying close attention to this issue and this is what I have come up with... On a stock (non-rooted) Verizon galaxy S3 I can lock indoors and even after rooting I can lock indoors. It is always after I unlock that damn bootloader that I start getting the gps issues... It still works but it is flaky! Gotta have the thing in clear view of the sky almost always... I say this cause I have had 3 different refurbs for the VZW S3 and so I tested my theory and to back it up I also have an at&t S3 and a T-mobile S3 and they don't require you to unlock your bootloader and I NEVER have had any issues with those models...? I really think it has something to do with unlocking our Verizon bootloader.... IMO Like I said, I have done extensive gps testing and this has been my only idea of what is borking the I535's gps signal strength or lack thereof! I can lock in my brick house with both of my other S3's but the Verizon model is **** as soon as you unlock the bootloader... I have played with just about EVERY app on the appstore and different mods on xda and some have made it better but nothing compared to the others.... Can anyone else chime in and let me know what you think...?
well, I installed the ota, but no fixed on the copy/paste and GPS. Went on my run and it didn't find a lock until the 3rd mile. I guess they will be sending me a New one. Maybe I'll try to root it and unroot Just to preserve my game data, etc. Can I still root it with this new ota? Never rooted before.
I might not root, in which case is have to transfer everything from the internal storage to a Harris data hard drive?
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well, I installed the ota, but no fixed on the copy/paste and GPS. Went on my run and it didn't find a lock until the 3rd mile. I guess they will be sending me a New one. Maybe I'll try to root it and unroot Just to preserve my game data, etc. Can I still root it with this new ota? Never rooted before.
I might not root, in which case is have to transfer everything from the internal storage to a Harris data hard drive?
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Well, mine took a long time to lock this morning. But it has been accurate all morning, which is improvement. I was having trouble with getting a lock before putting a ROM on, but I can't recall Having any issues before rooting, which I suppose does mean I pit a ROM on, really. But then, I rooted before I really had it long enough to test the GPS. Please post back if you try rooting the ota. Because if I keep having issues with GPS, that is my next step too.
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Well, mine took a long time to lock this morning. But it has been accurate all morning, which is improvement. I was having trouble with getting a lock before putting a ROM on, but I can't recall Having any issues before rooting, which I suppose does mean I pit a ROM on, really. But then, I rooted before I really had it long enough to test the GPS. Please post back if you try rooting the ota. Because if I keep having issues with GPS, that is my next step too.
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First post on XDA!
Now to the GPS issue...My S3 had the same type of issues being described in this thread. My gps would take a LONG TIME (5-20+mins) to lock in and if it did lock in then sometimes it would have me driving along a road parallel to the road i was on and i would hear it trying to get me back onto the road i was already on. I talked with Verizon tech support in this issue and the person i talked with just took me step by step to try to nail down the issue. i told him i already tried GPS Status app with resetting AGPS and downloading a new file but that never really helped. So he had me hard reset the phone with holding power, home, and volume up after the powering off. We opened the Maps app that came stock with the phone and it didnt lock in in the few mins that i had it open. Then we downloaded the newest Maps app and tried locking in again...no luck. I was also not receiving the OTA update (phone was always stock and not rooted) so we checked for that through the setting on the phone and i still couldnt receive it. Before all this happened I already talked to Verizon support and they had send me a refurbished S3 a few days before i made the call to tech support. So i told the guy that the refuribished phone that i had received got the OTA update as soon as i put my SIM card in the first time i powered the phone up and i havent had an issue with the GPS on it. He wanted me to just double check the firmware and the GPS signal on both phones and he said there was definatley something wrong with my original phone so that phone was sent back.
So i would suggest just calling the carrier and have them send out a new phone for you if your having GPS issues.
they're sending me a new one, the tech service guy on the phone has a gs3, and he didn't have any of these issues, so they are replacing it.
hopefully it doesn't have this issue...
now i gotta find a way to save all of my game data...
I had this same GPS issue and I found a post that seemed to fix the issue.
Go to Google Services Framework in application manager and clear all data. Then go to Google in application manager and clear data plus uninstall updates. Reboot, installed google update, and now my GPS locks on within seconds. Good luck, hope this fixes your issues as well.
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I saw the post on this and tried it but it didn't help my phone.
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thanks, i tried clearing those places, and while i couldn't find "google," i cleared "google maps" and hoped it would work, however, it did not.
Verizon is sending me a new phone, hopefully this phone will be better...
Fwiw, mine seems better now on beans ICS rom
I have a VZW M8 and it seems that after I leave Wi-Fi coverage, my mobile data will stall. I believe it is Wi-Fi disconnect causing the issue because if I leave Wi-Fi off, I haven't noticed the stall.
The only way to regain mobile data is to either restart which works every time, or if I go to mobile data settings and change from LTE to GSM, which works most of the time. Toggling data does not work.
I apologize if this has been discussed before, I searched and found nothing. I am s-off, rooted and running nV Rom. I asked in that forum but got no response. I also ran the GPE rom and had the same issue.
I don't remember this issue when I was stock, but that was such a short time, so I can't be sure.
Just wondering if anyone else has had this issue and if they were able to remedy it somehow.
I've had this issue on previous devices and it was usually caused by a specific rom, but many times it had to do with the baseband or even kernel. I know that the GPE roms for the VZW M8 were ports from the unlocked variants so that may have modified something like the baseband. If it's a consistent thing throughout several roms, I would literally go back and flash stock firmware and then reroot to see if that fixed it. That used to do the trick for me.
Worth trying, I'll let you know what I come up with. Thanks
Well, I restored my stock nandroid, but I'm still having the issue. Maybe I will RUU to stock and see what that does for me.
On a side note, could it be one access point causing the issue? I don't remember it happening off of my router at home, but 75% of the time it happens all the time at work.
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Well, I restored my stock nandroid, but I'm still having the issue. Maybe I will RUU to stock and see what that does for me.
On a side note, could it be one access point causing the issue? I don't remember it happening off of my router at home, but 75% of the time it happens all the time at work.
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I know this post is a year old, but im having this exact issue. Did you ever find a fix?
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I know this post is a year old, but im having this exact issue. Did you ever find a fix?
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Actually, try forgetting the access point and then re-add.
I ended up not using Wi-Fi at work for a short time, and then re tried and it worked. Nothing changed, other than I forgot and re-added the network. Worth a try.
temple2101 said:
I know this post is a year old, but im having this exact issue. Did you ever find a fix?
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Hello! Thanks for taking time to help me out!
Here is what is happening; I just recently updated my phone to Marshmallow and am running XtraSmooth with EXKernel. I live in China and had to follow the tutorial to change one of my bands to get LTE here. Of course everything was working fine before I updated to M6.
I can go into the 'Testing' Menu (*#*#4636#*#*) and switch to LTE only and LTE works great, however I then can not receive or send calls or text messages. When I do switch to LTE Only the LTE connection is usually much stronger than when not on LTE. For now I leave it on LTE/GSM (auto).
When I wake up my phone it is usually connected to 3g or edge, after a while it connects to H but then jumps back to 3g, and never seems to connect to LTE.
Is there a new feature I am not aware of that is causing this issue that I could turn off?
Thanks Again,
Chris
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Hello! Thanks for taking time to help me out!
Here is what is happening; I just recently updated my phone to Marshmallow and am running XtraSmooth with EXKernel. I live in China and had to follow the tutorial to change one of my bands to get LTE here. Of course everything was working fine before I updated to M6.
I can go into the 'Testing' Menu (*#*#4636#*#*) and switch to LTE only and LTE works great, however I then can not receive or send calls or text messages. When I do switch to LTE Only the LTE connection is usually much stronger than when not on LTE. For now I leave it on LTE/GSM (auto).
When I wake up my phone it is usually connected to 3g or edge, after a while it connects to H but then jumps back to 3g, and never seems to connect to LTE.
Is there a new feature I am not aware of that is causing this issue that I could turn off?
Thanks Again,
Chris
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sounds like you need to downgrade. the mod probably doesn't work with your carrier on the newest update. I don't know for sure but your can ask in the thread where your got the LTE Band mods from.
drago10029 said:
sounds like you need to downgrade. the mod probably doesn't work with your carrier on the newest update. I don't know for sure but your can ask in the thread where your got the LTE Band mods from.
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Thanks for your reply! I really appreciate your help!
This is the thread I got the hack/mod from for the LTE bands. I did re-perform the hack to verify it is still functioning. A few users in that thread reported it working with Marshmallow.
I was just out and about and I did notice LTE being used occasionally, sometime working sometimes not -- Oddly enough H seemed to not work at all giving DNS errors in chrome.
I am about to just restore my phone back to Lollipop with the twrp image I have... But I really do like to stay update to date with the latest OS. I also wanted to try a Chinese ROM like MIUI but they are still stuck on kitkat for the N5 and I don't want to go that far back... If the phone is still performing poorly and no one knows what is going on in a day or two I may revert back just to save myself the headache! I may also try a different ROM like Chroma to see if it helps.
If anyone else has ideas please let me know! Thank you!
Chris1056 said:
Thanks for your reply! I really appreciate your help!
This is the thread I got the hack/mod from for the LTE bands. I did re-perform the hack to verify it is still functioning. A few users in that thread reported it working with Marshmallow.
I was just out and about and I did notice LTE being used occasionally, sometime working sometimes not -- Oddly enough H seemed to not work at all giving DNS errors in chrome.
I am about to just restore my phone back to Lollipop with the twrp image I have... But I really do like to stay update to date with the latest OS. I also wanted to try a Chinese ROM like MIUI but they are still stuck on kitkat for the N5 and I don't want to go that far back... If the phone is still performing poorly and no one knows what is going on in a day or two I may revert back just to save myself the headache! I may also try a different ROM like Chroma to see if it helps.
If anyone else has ideas please let me know! Thank you!
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Last thought it make sure you wiped everything in TWRP before flashing the ROM and make sure the modem you're using is marshmallow compatible. if you performed the steps on modem that isn't compatible, that could have caused your issues. I hope this is helpful to you. and feel free to hit the like :silly::good:
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Last thought it make sure you wiped everything in TWRP before flashing the ROM and make sure the modem you're using is marshmallow compatible. if you performed the steps on modem that isn't compatible, that could have caused your issues. I hope this is helpful to you. and feel free to hit the like :silly::good:
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I don't know a lot about phones... When you say modem when referring to phones do you mean radio? I flashed the stock M6 factory Google Image by running the flash-all.bat. After that I flashed the ROM. Should doing this have taken care of that
Should I attempt to flash some other things? If so can you point me in the right direction.
Also it seems to be working a little better, steadily connected to LTE, however I get many many DNS errors; again I live in China. I am going to try to set custom DNS that I know works well here, when I get home from school. Is there a good app for this?
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I don't know a lot about phones... When you say modem when referring to phones do you mean radio? I flashed the stock M6 factory Google Image by running the flash-all.bat. After that I flashed the ROM. Should doing this have taken care of that
Should I attempt to flash some other things? If so can you point me in the right direction.
Also it seems to be working a little better, steadily connected to LTE, however I get many many DNS errors; again I live in China. I am going to try to set custom DNS that I know works well here, when I get home from school. Is there a good app for this?
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first, when you see modem and radio, those are the same file. and yes you flashed it correctly using the "flash-all.bat." :good: so you have the latest modem for the nexus 5. The DNS errors could mean many things. DNS depends on carrier, proxys they may be using, phone settings, etc. also for next time before you flash any files, read the stickies and rules. If not people may get mad at you & call you names if you ask question that already have answers inside of the rules and stickies
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focus on fixing the LTE problem first completely than deal with the DNS so you don't confuse the problems.
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first, when you see modem and radio, those are the same file. and yes you flashed it correctly using the "flash-all.bat." :good: so you have the latest modem for the nexus 5. The DNS errors could mean many things. DNS depends on carrier, proxys they may be using, phone settings, etc. also for next time before you flash any files, read the stickies and rules. If not people may get mad at you & call you names if you ask question that already have answers inside of the rules and stickies
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focus on fixing the LTE problem first completely than deal with the DNS so you don't confuse the problems.
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I think the LTE issue has mostly resolved itself. My house must be in a very poorly covered area and so I gets disconnected.
The big thing now is dns issues... Is there a good way to change it or do tests for issues?
Thanks
Chris1056 said:
I think the LTE issue has mostly resolved itself. My house must be in a very poorly covered area and so I gets disconnected.
The big thing now is dns issues... Is there a good way to change it or do tests for issues?
Thanks
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why is the DNS an issue, what exactly is the problem?
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why is the DNS an issue, what exactly is the problem?
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I'm sorry, this must seem crazy. So when I am connected to WiFi I can surf the internet just fine (as well as we can here) when on 3G or H data connection it works. But when I'm on LTE I cannot browse. Chrome gives a DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN error (for websites like bing.com and baidu.com [like chinese google]).
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I'm sorry, this must seem crazy. So when I am connected to WiFi I can surf the internet just fine (as well as we can here) when on 3G or H data connection it works. But when I'm on LTE I cannot browse. Chrome gives a DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN error (for websites like bing.com and baidu.com [like chinese google]).
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hmmm interesting. have you tried google searching the issue? someone else who has your phone and carrier may have had the issue, nexus 5 is pretty common.
also what carrier do you have?
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hmmm interesting. have you tried google searching the issue? someone else who has your phone and carrier may have had the issue, nexus 5 is pretty common.
also what carrier do you have?
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I have a little, and I really cant find anything. It seems I may not be getting an IP at all. I d/l a DNS Switcher app and it has a button to show current network settings and ip displays as 0.0.0.0 dns as 0.0.0.0
I may have to modify my searches.
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I have a little, and I really cant find anything. It seems I may not be getting an IP at all. I d/l a DNS Switcher app and it has a button to show current network settings and ip displays as 0.0.0.0 dns as 0.0.0.0
I may have to modify my searches.
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Honestly if those settings are coming up using the cell network, idk. Be certain your APN settings are correct since that could effect it. Lastly if that didn't happen with out the custom radio than you may be having some issues with the mod. go back to the thread and make sure you did everything like they said. also try using a different browser, I heard something about google and China not being good with each other
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Honestly if those settings are coming up using the cell network, idk. Be certain your APN settings are correct since that could effect it. Lastly if that didn't happen with out the custom radio than you may be having some issues with the mod. go back to the thread and make sure you did everything like they said. also try using a different browser, I heard something about google and China not being good with each other
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I really appreciate you sticking around and helping me out! I am at school or work all day so I only have short evenings to trouble shoot. So here is what I experienced today;
I can now steadily connect to LTE (even in areas I was having trouble with before). Sometimes, when I connect to wifi then disconnect and therefore reconnect to LTE it doesn't handle the switch-over very well and gives issues with the connection (the NXDOMAIN errors or, more rarely, no internet connection at all). I downloaded LTE Discovery which showed me I am connected on band 3 which means the 'hack' successfully applied. I also asked over on their post and they said It will stay across a factory update. To fix the connection errors I can usually restart my phone or play with the APNs (switch back and forth), merely turning data off then back on does not fix the issue.
My next idea is to switch ROMs then downgrade. but oddly enough, right now, no matter what I do it works... This is nuts, haha.
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I really appreciate you sticking around and helping me out! I am at school or work all day so I only have short evenings to trouble shoot. So here is what I experienced today;
I can now steadily connect to LTE (even in areas I was having trouble with before). Sometimes, when I connect to wifi then disconnect and therefore reconnect to LTE it doesn't handle the switch-over very well and gives issues with the connection (the NXDOMAIN errors or, more rarely, no internet connection at all). I downloaded LTE Discovery which showed me I am connected on band 3 which means the 'hack' successfully applied. I also asked over on their post and they said It will stay across a factory update. To fix the connection errors I can usually restart my phone or play with the APNs (switch back and forth), merely turning data off then back on does not fix the issue.
My next idea is to switch ROMs then downgrade. but oddly enough, right now, no matter what I do it works... This is nuts, haha.
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No problem, and try different modems first, that could clear up the issue. than try some different ROMs and going back to stock like you said.. Also you never mentioned what you doing when you get those DNS related errors. don't forget to hit thanks man, def appreciated.
also, be sure no one else in your area, with your service provider is having the same issue.