OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
motocrossmann said:
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
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Great....but why start a new thread on an existing topic about the radio.
cuz he wanted to! so na-na-na-na
motocrossmann said:
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
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Just be sure that you're kaiser is "security unlockt" before installing 1.65.17.10, then there is no problem to change to another radio.
monkey0 said:
Just be sure that you're kaiser is "security unlockt" before installing 1.65.17.10, then there is no problem to change to another radio.
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How can check this ?
Faster4 said:
How can check this ?
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Hold in the camera button then hit reset. On the top of the bootloader screen should say "security unlocked"
Com'on guys. This is a PUBLIC forum. As long as he follow the rules, and I think he is fine. lately I have see so many "police" wants ppl to follow he or her rules.
I understand how difficult to read the same post again and again.
His topic might not interest you, but here I am. I like to know what are the benefits from previous user.
Please do not judge people by your standard.
BTW, what I do not like to see is: "good job", "you the best", "Dutty, you did it again"...etc all the good words. That is what I call a waste of my time. But you see hundreds of posts like that. This is just an example. What I like to see is the "pro" and "con", so I can narrow down the actual benfit of flash to a new ROM. I have never see anyone here saying anthing about this. Everytime when a new ROM update, I probably have to read more than 50% on good words. Tell me about that!!
rac2371 said:
Hold in the camera button then hit reset. On the top of the bootloader screen should say "security unlocked"
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I'm doing everything you say but it shows me the three color screen without say "security unlocked" . What else can I do to unlock it?
Thank you
Being a chef, putting out a special rom for the public takes a great deal of time. They need the certain feedback from users on the rom. The first few posts are cluttered with the good jobs and great rom, but this is the thing to thank the chefs for their time and efforts.
As for this thread, I know its dug up in there, but people have stated the benefits in the 1.65.17.10 radio thread. The Kaiser ROM development forum is really cluttered with a lot of threads so having these redundent threads just makes the development forum more cluttered.
Penske MB said:
Com'on guys. This is a PUBLIC forum. As long as he follow the rules, and I think he is fine. lately I have see so many "police" wants ppl to follow he or her rules.
I understand how difficult to read the same post again and again.
His topic might not interest you, but here I am. I like to know what are the benefits from previous user.
Please do not judge people by your standard.
BTW, what I do not like to see is: "good job", "you the best", "Dutty, you did it again"...etc all the good words. That is what I call a waste of my time. But you see hundreds of posts like that. This is just an example. What I like to see is the "pro" and "con", so I can narrow down the actual benfit of flash to a new ROM. I have never see anyone here saying anthing about this. Everytime when a new ROM update, I probably have to read more than 50% on good words. Tell me about that!!
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Faster4 said:
I'm doing everything you say but it shows me the three color screen without say "security unlocked" . What else can I do to unlock it?
Thank you
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You could follow the info/link in the WiKi
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
That would take you here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
motocrossmann said:
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
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Motorcross,
Tq for yourfeedback. I face the same problem with what u had but mine is more serious!!! My EDGE connection (I am in Malaysia using DiGi) lasts only minutes. 50% of the time a reconnections do not get my connection back and the wait for the disconnection of "E" takes 2-3minutes too. So far as you had mention, all the ROMs and RADIOs i have tried did not solve this issue and no one here had any clue to this. I am really TEMPTED to test this radio from HELL but am worried I may get more hell should it not solve my problem.. Appreciate your input here
thomassster said:
Being a chef, putting out a special rom for the public takes a great deal of time. They need the certain feedback from users on the rom. The first few posts are cluttered with the good jobs and great rom, but this is the thing to thank the chefs for their time and efforts.
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Feedback is far better thanks than just "thanks." If people are saying thanks, then they are probably using the ROM, and if they're using the ROM they should have something to say about it. Even if it's just a few things they like.
motocrossmann said:
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
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I have asked this in the Dutty's ROM section but no answer - so let me try here. I was wondering if this radio would solve a big problem I have had ever since I switched to Dutty's ROM. In HSDPA mode I have lost the feature of simultaneous data and voice. Before I flashed over from the AT&T stock ROM I was able to stream from my Slingbox or Sirius Radio applications and, when I got a phone call, the phone would ring and I could make the call. Post call, the data session would still be active.
With all the Dutty ROMs I have tried once the call comes in - or is placed - the data session ends. BTW - If I switch my SIM over to my Blackjack the simultaneous data/voice feature returns - the BJ has a cooked WM 6.1 ROM also.
Have you found that this radio resolves those issues??
rdecker692000 said:
I have asked this in the Dutty's ROM section but no answer - so let me try here. I was wondering if this radio would solve a big problem I have had ever since I switched to Dutty's ROM. In HSDPA mode I have lost the feature of simultaneous data and voice. Before I flashed over from the AT&T stock ROM I was able to stream from my Slingbox or Sirius Radio applications and, when I got a phone call, the phone would ring and I could make the call. Post call, the data session would still be active.
With all the Dutty ROMs I have tried once the call comes in - or is placed - the data session ends. BTW - If I switch my SIM over to my Blackjack the simultaneous data/voice feature returns - the BJ has a cooked WM 6.1 ROM also.
Have you found that this radio resolves those issues??
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Hmm, I never had that problem and still don't. I have tested simultaneous data with my phone and it works fine pre/post installing this radio.
cmloo said:
Motorcross,
Tq for yourfeedback. I face the same problem with what u had but mine is more serious!!! My EDGE connection (I am in Malaysia using DiGi) lasts only minutes. 50% of the time a reconnections do not get my connection back and the wait for the disconnection of "E" takes 2-3minutes too. So far as you had mention, all the ROMs and RADIOs i have tried did not solve this issue and no one here had any clue to this. I am really TEMPTED to test this radio from HELL but am worried I may get more hell should it not solve my problem.. Appreciate your input here
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Well, I wish I could provide you some good advice on that one, but your problem is quite different than mine. Have you tried changing the GPRS authendication menthod? PAP vs CHAP?
Odd - I have tried a bunch of the Kaiser, Sena and Niki radios with the same issues. Once I go back to the stock AT&T ROM all is well. Definitely not worth running the AT&T ROM for the feature; I may try one of the Non-Dutty ROMs just for a test.
Related
Hi!
I'm soooooo damn tired facing thousands of radio issues day in and day out
I'm using radio rom 1.15 and i find it extremely buggy . I looked through the forums and noone seems to be complaining, so i wonder if i'm the jinx here :/
The problems i face are -
1. All of a sudden i cant make calls. It throws a notification popup saying "The call has failed". Thanks! The only way out....restarting the radio. And yea, thats a nightmare too....going to comm manager, switching of phone, and switching it back on....the damn thing doesnt work right AT ALL! I switch it off....and push the button again to turn it back on, nothing happens....i push it again and again and again a million times....it gets too painful. So what do i do instead? soft reset
2. My gprs connectivity goes for a toss every now and then. again, the same ordeal....it never connects until i soft reset or restart the radio.
3. The worst part, when the phone module has taken a crap....i.e....reached a state where no calls go thru (refer problem 1.), i cant even receive incoming calls! The person calling me gets a ringing tone, but my phone's a dead corpse here. All messages sent to me are "apparently delivered" but nothing shows up here....
Is it just me?
Is there a better radio rom?
I restart my phone roughly 5 times a day, once in the morning when i wake up WITHOUT FAIL....and all this is getting to me really bad :-/
San
Well i see you are from Banglore,im from Hyderabad,i have been using the 1.15 radio for ome time now with the pdav latest rom(.09) sometimes my phone acts a little strangely like when receiving a call sometimes the incoming call icon stays there for about 10sec before the screen comes on the call status one.I switched over to radio 1.09 which i found the most stable on my O2 exec,but in my experience radio roms also behave differently depending on location,and also the os system try to use 1.09 as i found it the best for me in India.
Radio versions works differently depending on your location.
Try other radio versions.
Or better yet, just use the radio version that came with your device.
Do not upgrade your radio unless your having problems with it.
Like our friend here at xda-developers said, "If it's not broken, don't fix it."
arvind09 said:
Well i see you are from Banglore,im from Hyderabad,i have been using the 1.15 radio for ome time now with the pdav latest rom(.09) sometimes my phone acts a little strangely like when receiving a call sometimes the incoming call icon stays there for about 10sec before the screen comes on the call status one.I switched over to radio 1.09 which i found the most stable on my O2 exec,but in my experience radio roms also behave differently depending on location,and also the os system try to use 1.09 as i found it the best for me in India.
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well, i've reverted back to 1.09, lets see if its any better!
i feel sooo sick sometimes, i think of buying another normal phone! But hell, i love my universal so much that i cant do it....i'd rather put up with all the $hit it throws at me... !
cheers, and thanks for ur help everyone! i'll post back and let u knw if its still coughing up!
San
Radio Rom?
If you are still having issues, also post back your OS Rom that you are running, this may also have some bearing on the underlying issues.
Cheers,
Beast
Using radio 1.15:
With Ivan's base it causes my device to experience problems with the phone and GPRS\3G
With Midget's base everything seems to work fine
(btw I have an O2 Exec - Just suggesting that it may be the differences in hardware...)
dreamtheater39:
Same problem here.... Since I (sim) unlocked my MDA-Pro I'm experiencing EXACTLY the same problems as you have.
I posted several items on this forum, no success till now.
I'm thinking of reassembeling my old MDA-Pro, which is sim locked but screen broken. replacing the screen with my new (sim) unlocked MDA-Pro and see if the radio problem is still there. Just to exclude if the problem can be (sim) unlocking the phone...
But it is VERY anoying, I must agree...
regards
arjan
Also,.. I've tried almoast every Radio rom!! still no success.. even te Original T-Mobile rom (ROm and radio) give me problems...
So can it be the Sim unlocking (V1 by Buzzdev)?
A.
adonker said:
Also,.. I've tried almoast every Radio rom!! still no success.. even te Original T-Mobile rom (ROm and radio) give me problems...
So can it be the Sim unlocking (V1 by Buzzdev)?
A.
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Hi,
I doubt it is the SIm unlock.
I used Buzz's too, originally many Rom flashes past that.
I have Exec with Radio 15 and customised Rom with Midgets as base and no issues at all.
I would advise finding out what the latest Radio Ver offered by Manufac for your model and try that one for a bit.
Perhaps we should start a poll as to what each user is using and record Radio and OS Rom info with a comments section for any issues noted. It would at least help stablise WM6 builds.
Regards,
Beast
That damn radio issue!
I think it is time to stop discussing whether there is an issue and start looking for a fix!
First off: basically all HTC-phones have had a similar probblem, going back to the MDA 2. The key problem has been, that the data connection does not properly switch between mobile cells when you are on the move.
My device loses data connection every time I go into the parking garage, where there is no reception. Also, when I'm sitting in an area with very poor UMTS-coverage, the MDA-PRO loses connection after a few successful switches to GPRS. BTW: You can see you have a problem when Active Sync on the MDA says "Waiting for Network".
This wasn't such an issue as long as we didn't have the data connection constantly on. But, latest with the MS-Pushmail this has changed - the data connection is always on.
HTC and the operators have seemingly been working on this issue for quite some time. The only ROM on the MDA-PRO that was quite stable on this was actually the last T-Mobile WM-5 ROM.
With WM6 we are back to the issue. I no longer believe it is a problem with the Radio-ROM. Most likely is that there are differences in the driver dll. THis might explain why Midget's ROM seems to be better than IVAN's.
So, guys start troubleshooting!
Yes dreamtheater, are you running WM6? It is WM6 that seems to display these problems, regardless of the Radio. If I roll back to the official T-Mobile Rom (WM5) or Orange Rom (WM5) my problems disappear
HA!
Finally some usefull information. But very strange, buying a very expensive devise, but not being able to make a proper phonecall with it....
a.
YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I installed Radio 1.09 and so far sooooooooooo good!!!! None of the issues i mentioned, it works like a charm!!!
The only noticable issue i've found a couple times is, the gprs automatically disconnects once in a while, but i can ask it to reconnect and it does so without a fuss! Wowwwweeee!!!!
A BIGGG thanks to Arvind09 for this!!!!
So guys, i guess you got to try all radio roms and find which one works best for you, no other go as i see it
Cheers!
San
OH CRAP!!!!!!!!! I SPOKE TOOOOO SOON
Woke up early morning and the damn things crapped again :-/
The sobbing continues
If you tried different Radio Version and still does not work, it is time you change a service provider, provided you are sure that your hardware never had problems before.
Bangalore is a big city, coverage should be good, could it be the part of area you are in has bad coverage, try asking you friends about service provider other than your current one in that particular area.
If changing provider still does not work, make a complaint to the providers, it nothing improves, its time you need to move somewhere else.
I have the same issue when I keep the Radio Band in Auto mode (GSM/3G) I change my phone to GSM and it is better.
Ye, I did the same too. only switch manually to 3G when needed. I almost forgot about this point.
Furthermore, GSM mode makes the battery last more days than 3G mode.
encountered the same probs, 4 me radio 1.12 is the most stable one (I believe it's an exotic/not commonly used version)
I have been struggeling with this since the first WM6 Pre-release ROM came out on this forum. Tried all the radio ROMs available, without succes. As said, the only ROM that does not suffer from this, is the latest WM5 ROM.
dreamtheater39 said:
OH CRAP!!!!!!!!! I SPOKE TOOOOO SOON
Woke up early morning and the damn things crapped again :-/
The sobbing continues
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Ok could you tell me which provider are subscribed to? I use Airtel and hutch on both my pocket pc(universal and orbit)Ive noticed that airtel tends to loose its signal whereas hutch has never given me a problem.for this reason i use hutch on the Uni,though i cannot say that im very happy with their service,they are any day much better tha Airtel and Idea both.Also try to change the rom and see if the problem still persists.
I know, I'm supposed to search but I wasn't getting anywhere....
My device (Originally AT&T Tilt)
Now running Dutty WM6.1 WWE 4/29/08 (phone suggests.)
Radio 1.64.08.21
Location NYC
ISSUES:
Internet waaaaaaaay too slow. Never had a problem before.
The 3G (square box) is present and 3g over signal.
Signal- I average 2 to 3 bars TOPS
prior it used to be full
Can someone suggest anything?! Downloading Cab files is slow and or it freezes. My Youtubeplayer.cab doesn't even work anymore because of this problem.
Also...prior to using the Rom..my phone hates the Hollywood/ Beverly Hills area which is my second home.
Thanks in advance.
TheNotSoGeekyGirlAfterAll!
Just thought of something else... why does my touch keyboard and touch keypad stop working after about 10 times?
What's going on??????? I love the Rom but damn too many problems with my device.
DAI500 said:
I know, I'm supposed to search but I wasn't getting anywhere....
My device (Originally AT&T Tilt)
Now running Dutty WM6.1 WWE 4/29/08 (phone suggests.)
Radio 1.64.08.21
Location NYC
ISSUES:
Internet waaaaaaaay too slow. Never had a problem before.
The 3G (square box) is present and 3g over signal.
Signal- I average 2 to 3 bars TOPS
prior it used to be full
Can someone suggest anything?! Downloading Cab files is slow and or it freezes. My Youtubeplayer.cab doesn't even work anymore because of this problem.
Also...prior to using the Rom..my phone hates the Hollywood/ Beverly Hills area which is my second home.
Thanks in advance.
TheNotSoGeekyGirlAfterAll!
Just thought of something else... why does my touch keyboard and touch keypad stop working after about 10 times?
What's going on??????? I love the Rom but damn too many problems with my device.
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1st put on some flame retardant, 2nd you should try duttys thread, not start a new one, how long have you been running this rom, did you hard reset after the first flash, have you tried to reflash, have you tried a different radio, radios make a huge difference base on location, many radio threads out there, and last if it has to many bugs try another rom, i have used this rom and i love it.
lupe
overhaulengines said:
1st put on some flame retardant, 2nd you should try duttys thread, not start a new one, how long have you been running this rom, did you hard reset after the first flash, have you tried to reflash, have you tried a different radio, radios make a huge difference base on location, many radio threads out there, and last if it has to many bugs try another rom, i have used this rom and i love it.
lupe
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Minus the rudeness, you actually helped because I didn't know if it was the rom or radio. And for the record I did search for my specific problem using keywords. I'll try changing the radio because I can connect to the internet..its just edge is faster than my dumb phone. If all else fails, Ill sell the crap.
Thanks for your assistance.
DAI500 said:
Minus the rudeness, you actually helped because I didn't know if it was the rom or radio. And for the record I did search for my specific problem using keywords. I'll try changing the radio because I can connect to the internet..its just edge is faster than my dumb phone. If all else fails, Ill sell the crap.
Thanks for your assistance.
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He wasn't being rude, you should post this in the thread for dutty's rom. My guess normally would be that you don't have 3G turned on, rather than a radio or a rom issue, as i remember several of dutty's roms do not have 3g enabled by default. bit apparently you're getting a 3G signal. Have you tried other roms to be sure it's somethign rom specific and not your network? In the future post your questions in the appropriate thread to TRY to reduce the clutter in the forum. Also, it is the xda policy, so there's another reason to do it.
DAI500 said:
Minus the rudeness, you actually helped because I didn't know if it was the rom or radio. And for the record I did search for my specific problem using keywords. I'll try changing the radio because I can connect to the internet..its just edge is faster than my dumb phone. If all else fails, Ill sell the crap.
Thanks for your assistance.
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no rudeness, thats why there is a smile, like this one, search ultimate radio, and you will find alltheways radio thread with all kinds of radios, good luck
Lupe
The symptoms: SOMETIMES during incoming phonecalls Raphael rings (plays sound) but when I pick up the call, suddenly the phone sort of "mutes itself". I can't hear the person talking, nor can they hear me, even if I hang up and try later. The only thing that helps is a soft reset.
It's difficult to count the occurence, but I'd say like once a day at least.
I have already tried Hard reset, the phone is acting funny with only Advanced Config 3.1 and PHM RegEdit installed and a few tweaks applied (just Boost TFL3D performance tweaks and SMS conversation disabled)
I'm running stock 1.90.401.1 WWE FW, I have flashed a new radio version (1.02.25.31 Cingular) though.
Any advice/suggestion is appreciated.
Unless the new radio is giving you 3G, I'd go back to the stock ROM/radio combination and see if that works. I'm currently using the Cingular ROM/radio as well and I've never run into these problems, but that may be due to different hardware.
Thank you very much for a quick reply.
I'll try flashing the stock radio and will report back...
So, I flashed the original radio and it seemed for a while that the problem was gone.
Sadly, I must report that the problem is persistant as I had to restart my phone right now. When the "sound mute" thing happens I don't hear anything while answering phone calls (even though the phone rings normally!) and also when I try calling any number from my contacts including the operator hotline.
I really don't want to return the phone because I like it very much but having a phone which has problems with phone calls is kind of silly.
I'm at my wit's end.
Will anyone help me please?
I have a small update - today I was so desperate, that I tried flashing a custom ROM (namely DCS-TouchPro-v1.0 Hybrid) and the phone went bonkers right at the first incoming call. However, something IS different - now the phone is not silent but starts "buzzing" - making a long uninterruptible sound that lasts until reset.
Do you think I could have a HW problem?
I HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM!!!
I already posted a message in the "Issues" post of the Raphael Forum, but apparently no one had the same issue so far.
I did many hard resets (and installing gradually less things), it still bugs.
Currently the only tweak installed is the scorpion one to have 4 rows of icons in a menu.
My Raphael is behaving like this since 1 week. The bug occurs once or twice a day as well.
Anybody with some good IT experience has got an idea of what could be wrong with it?
Do you think it is more software related or hardware related?
Today it also crashed badly (grey doted screen and noway to make it work again by turning off. Had to soft reset).
PLEASE DO HELP US, because I'm using the phone for professional reasons and I'll really have to send it back if it keeps on bugging this badely!!!
I just sent a message to HTC Support.
Let's see what they say.
I'll post their response so those who have the same problem will know what to do.
Oh boy, I must say I'm glad not to be the only one with this problem, even though I never wish bad things to anyone.
While googling the problem, I found a few Diamond users with exactly the same symptoms, however most of them solved this by exchanging the device for a new one, so this won't help us much...
Me too, I was wondering if it was because I did something wrong with the phone...
But if I'm not the only it means that there is a problem with the phone itself.
Anyway I'll wait for the official answer from HTC...
I'll post their answer as soon as I receive it.
I'm actually quite curious what their answer will be.
But I wouldn't hold my breath for any miracle, so I'm preparing to send my phone to the service center to have them look at it...
Well.. that makes 3 of us then
at first i thought my symptoms are different, but Flippy confirmed they're identical.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2611523#post2611523
I have to correct myself - I wrote that when the thing happens, the phone still rings, which is not true. It rings just the first time before the problem occurs, but then it's dead silent.
So it seems our symptoms really are exactly the same.
Told ya AntiProxy!
So we are indeed only 3. It is still ok, it means that there is only a very small proportion of of Touch Pro that have this problem.
Now let's only wait HTC's answer...
spoke to HTC support today.
not that i expected them to figure it out or have a solution at hand, but i figured what the heck.. give it a shot.
their solution?
hard reset.. the guy would swear by his daughter that a hard reset will solve it.
i just thanked him and hung up.. *sigh*
don't you just hate it when techsupport's solution to everything is a reboot or reformat.. when you know that's not the solution anyway!
Well, I tried already doing the "Clear Storage" through the settings -> system panel, but it still has got the same problem.
I'll give them a call aswell to see if by any chance I can get on the phone 1 person who will be able to provide us a better technical advice
Hard reset won't help, I've already done it like dozen times and it makes no difference...
I tried flashing the phone to the stock 1.90.405.1 ROM and so far (a day and half) I have NOT encountered the problem. It is too early to start hoping, but I wanted to let you know - if you don't mind flashing your phone, give it a try.
Zillator, can you keep us posted for like 1 week?
If in 1 week the phone doesn't present again that problem I'll flash it as well (I didn't want to flash it because I wasn't sure if it could void the warranty). If during 1 week you don't have the problem again it'll mean that out initial ROM was defective...
Thank you Zillator and please let us know. (by the way when I'll call them tomorrow I'll ask them if flashing the ROM to a newer stock version voids the warranty).
Zillator said:
I tried flashing the phone to the stock 1.90.405.1 ROM and so far (a day and half) I have NOT encountered the problem.
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only thing is.. my phone is still running the stock ROM as it is!
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only thing is.. my phone is still running the stock ROM as it is!
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AntiProxy, it might be a bug in the ROM we have in our machines. That's why maybe flash it could be the solution. Nevertheless I'll ask about the warranty tomorrow when I call them and let's see how it goes to Zillator.
If his phone doesn't bug for 1 week, there might be a big probability that the problem came indeed from our ROMs.
Guys, don't worry, I WILL keep you updated. I know how much the problem bothers me, so if there's anything I can do to help you, I will definitely do it.
In the end, that's why we are here - to help each other...
AntiProxy: is your stock ROM 1.90.405.1 WWE? Because mine was different (1.90.401.1 WWE) and I had the problem. Maybe Flippy_TK is right and the problem only exists in the 401 ROM.
I'll continue testing and we'll see...
Alright, so I'm a fairly new owner of a Raphael (previously owned a Hermes as you may have guessed from my username), and I've been reading constantly just trying to catch up on all the knowledge pertaining to the Raphael. In fact, I haven't even decided whether to purchase Olipro's unlock yet.
Anyway, after testing multiple roms, I upgraded to RRE V4 Final 2 (then seeing RRE V5 shortly afterwards; go figure). Anyway, it worked great at first, but then I soon noticed enormous battery draining. Something like 10-15% drainage every hour. Researching, I discovered some people were able to solve the problem by changing radios, so I did the same.
After some testing, I tried 1.12.25.19, and I'm in love.
The battery problems are gone, the calls are clear, and so on, but the mot impressive thing is how well the GPS is functioning now. When I first got the Raphael, I had to spend three days of testing before I was able to get the damn thing to even work for the first time. After that, I had to wait roughly 15-30 minutes every time I start the GPS up before it would start functioning right.
After I changed to radio 1.12.25.19, though, things seems to have taken a turn for the better. Testing the GPS with the radio for the first time, I step out of my front door, turn it on, and there was a lock in less than 10 seconds. I almost couldn't believe it and I was, of course, happy.
But the really impressive thing occurred less than 20 minutes ago. See, I had made plans to visit a place, and needed to save the address in my GPS. I turned on my GPS software first, but while I was searching for the address I needed, the GPS software suddenly lit up. I was confused for a moment as to what happened before it hit me that there was a GPS lock. In an area of my house which I didn't realize could be done. To emphasize this point, I had owned a dedicated GPS receiver before which had barely been able to get a lock in this area, and it didn't lock half as fast as the Raphael did (less than 10 seconds again).
Of course, the GPS is not everything for everyone, but as I said, battery life and call reception seem fairly impressive too. Furthermore, from my searching, it seems as if a lot of other members consider it to be a fairly impressive radio too. If nothing else, considering the GPS problems some seem to have (including me previously), the ability to get the GPS to work like this is real quality.
(Thanks to all for reading!)
Thanks for your review. I 'll definetely try it because today I realize that a "simle" 80 euro phone had full signal while my TP was 2/5. First thing tomorow after flashing latest Lantis ;-)
I agree 100%. I am using a custom rom and this radio. The results are amazing. Good battery life and GPS like it should be.
So far so good with RRE 5.2; but only a couple of hours. Picked up two sats from down stairs in a 2 story.
8525Smart said:
Alright, so I'm a fairly new owner of a Raphael (previously owned a Hermes as you may have guessed from my username), and I've been reading constantly just trying to catch up on all the knowledge pertaining to the Raphael. In fact, I haven't even decided whether to purchase Olipro's unlock yet.
Anyway, after testing multiple roms, I upgraded to RRE V4 Final 2 (then seeing RRE V5 shortly afterwards; go figure). Anyway, it worked great at first, but then I soon noticed enormous battery draining. Something like 10-15% drainage every hour. Researching, I discovered some people were able to solve the problem by changing radios, so I did the same.
After some testing, I tried 1.12.25.19, and I'm in love.
The battery problems are gone, the calls are clear, and so on, but the mot impressive thing is how well the GPS is functioning now. When I first got the Raphael, I had to spend three days of testing before I was able to get the damn thing to even work for the first time. After that, I had to wait roughly 15-30 minutes every time I start the GPS up before it would start functioning right.
After I changed to radio 1.12.25.19, though, things seems to have taken a turn for the better. Testing the GPS with the radio for the first time, I step out of my front door, turn it on, and there was a lock in less than 10 seconds. I almost couldn't believe it and I was, of course, happy.
But the really impressive thing occurred less than 20 minutes ago. See, I had made plans to visit a place, and needed to save the address in my GPS. I turned on my GPS software first, but while I was searching for the address I needed, the GPS software suddenly lit up. I was confused for a moment as to what happened before it hit me that there was a GPS lock. In an area of my house which I didn't realize could be done. To emphasize this point, I had owned a dedicated GPS receiver before which had barely been able to get a lock in this area, and it didn't lock half as fast as the Raphael did (less than 10 seconds again).
Of course, the GPS is not everything for everyone, but as I said, battery life and call reception seem fairly impressive too. Furthermore, from my searching, it seems as if a lot of other members consider it to be a fairly impressive radio too. If nothing else, considering the GPS problems some seem to have (including me previously), the ability to get the GPS to work like this is real quality.
(Thanks to all for reading!)
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hi. out of curiosity, which radio did you upgrade from?
For some reason i cant get it to install it said its Radio 1.100 when im on the RUU
I've noticed the same improvements with this radio.
GPS locks most of the time before the application completely loads, dropped calls gone, battery life improved.
Mine is an at&t branded, with the "leaked" at&t rom.
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hi. out of curiosity, which radio did you upgrade from?
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Well, I had tested the Raphael 1.11.25.01 first before moving to the Raphael 1.11.25.19. The former worked well, but the GPS lock was still kind of slow. It also may have been my imagination, but call quality seemed to have been worse.
lilhgarcia1 said:
For some reason i cant get it to install it said its Radio 1.100 when im on the RUU
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Did you get the radio from here?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2822877&postcount=2
That's where I got mine and it worked perfectly.
Radio Thread
Thanks for the review, next time could you please post it in the radio thread where it is suppose to be instead of starting a new thread. Thanks
Upgrading radio
Never been one brave enough to mess with the ROM's for fear of bricking mine. I NEED my phone hourly for work and personal, so down time for me, monkeying with it, is not an option.
However, concerning the radio. Is it possible to just upgrade the radio portion and not the entire ROM. I apologize if there is a link for this already.
TIA,
James
You'll always have the risk of bricking your phone when you flash, but it's not likely. In order to flash a radio you'll still need to flash the boot loader with hardspl first, which will require a backup and restore of your existing data else all is lost. For that reason I'm sticking with my current radio because I'd rather not goof with reloading all of my data and registry tweaks. See the noob flashing thread (including details about hardspl) here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
8525Smart said:
Alright, so I'm a fairly new owner of a Raphael (previously owned a Hermes as you may have guessed from my username), and I've been reading constantly just trying to catch up on all the knowledge pertaining to the Raphael. In fact, I haven't even decided whether to purchase Olipro's unlock yet.
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You should totally get the unlocker, then you could flash the 1.12.25.16 radio, which is waaaay better than the 1.12.25.19.
lilhgarcia1 said:
For some reason i cant get it to install it said its Radio 1.100 when im on the RUU
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Just go on! It's ok!
jwb1969 said:
Never been one brave enough to mess with the ROM's for fear of bricking mine. I NEED my phone hourly for work and personal, so down time for me, monkeying with it, is not an option.
However, concerning the radio. Is it possible to just upgrade the radio portion and not the entire ROM. I apologize if there is a link for this already.
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Oh yes, you can change the radio without changing the ROM. Just make sure you have HardSPL installed first (it won't require a hard reset either).
Farmer Ted said:
You should totally get the unlocker, then you could flash the 1.12.25.16 radio, which is waaaay better than the 1.12.25.19.
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Hmm, that's the Blackstone radio, right? Even better than 1.12.25.19? Sounds tempting. I think I'll upgrade to it later if I ever get the unlock. Thanks for the recommendation!
i have a fuze and ive never done a radio flash before on any of my htc phones so i know nothing about it. but gps sucks. i have hardspl and a custom rom. what else do i need? do i need the olipro sim unlock? i spent all my money on this phone and dont really want to have to pay for me. :|
This radio is pretty good. GPS works great and I get good reception but my data rates suck with this radio. I originally thought my new sim that was causing the problem but I've eliminated all other factors down to this radio.
fuzemaster said:
In order to flash a radio you'll still need to flash the boot loader with hardspl first, which will require a backup and restore of your existing data else all is lost.
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Not true. You can do hardspl and flash a radio without losing all your data. It is only when you flash the actual ROM that data is erased. What I do is the SD card method, where I rename the radio to RAPHIMG.nbh, put it on my sd card root and enter bootloader. No messing around with activesync.
Sorry for the nub question... will these radios work for any carrier? or do I have to find one that works works with Sprint?
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Sorry for the nub question... will these radios work for any carrier? or do I have to find one that works works with Sprint?
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Definitely do not flash this radio to a sprint phone. Sprint's TP is a CDMA device and you have to flash CDMA radios.
good to know...
As title says, I went to the theatre today and realized I still had 5 bars of WiFi when I was 20KM away from home, was this a one time glitch or is it a known problem?
sounds familiar....
hey there,
I'm down here in New Zealand with a both versions of device, X & XL
my XL has the problem you speak about.
When i leave my house, it takes for ever to disconnect, pain of course because the 3G or 4G wont flip on while it thinks it is still on wifi.
When i return to my home/SSID the device takes for ever to reconnect, if it even does. i go to the wifi settings, and the connection initiation is just cycling, end attempts to connect, over and over.
I've thought i had fix it once before, by installing a new RUU. I was on RUU 1.77.708.3 Asia, could only find 1.77.708.2.
this seemed to fix disconnection on departure problem, but the cycling and hunting continued when i returned.
I have since found that this must be linked to the bluetooth. I say this because while the wifi is hunting/cycling i flip off the bluetooth and the wifi reconnects within seconds. I tested this more and with bluetooth disabled i have no wifi problems at all, but with bluetooth on, its gives my problems.
The second issue is the bluetooth its self. unlike my flawless desireHD, i can only stream music to my car head-deck, when i get a phone call, the music cuts out like it should, but the phone audio doesn't happen, been like that from the get go. wifi was a problem all the time because this dodgy bluetooth was on all the time so i could listen to music in the car and hopefully one day take calls in the car also.
well i have good news for me, today i flashed CleanROM.3.Standard .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1655011
Today for the first time I can take calls over bluetooth in the car. this is good news because i was certain this was a hardware issue, even it it is, i am confident it can be resolved in the software now.
I'll do a few drive-by's my house tonight to test this wifi, see if that got resolved also. I'll let you know the result later.
I tell you all this in-case our issues are the same, it might save you some time... maybe.
good luck with, and check that bluetooth theory because i'm dying to know if its a common problem.
Cheers
Thank you for that very detailed post.
I also have bluetooth running (connected) to my car and it works flawlessly but it may be a cause for the WiFI staying connected as well. I will turn it off and see how it goes as the week progresses and keep this updated as well.
I would also like to flash clean rom but I am using the Rogers variant so I am worried it might not be compatible.
an_xda said:
As title says, I went to the theatre today and realized I still had 5 bars of WiFi when I was 20KM away from home, was this a one time glitch or is it a known problem?
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This has been a known problem since the HOX has been released.
an_xda said:
As title says, I went to the theatre today and realized I still had 5 bars of WiFi when I was 20KM away from home, was this a one time glitch or is it a known problem?
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First reaction: It's not a glitch, that's just really good WiFi...
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
I did those drive-by's......
Me again...
I did those drive-by's of my house, unfortunately there is no joy for me, still the WiFi behaves the same as before.
Its funny, down here we have assumed that the X is the same as the XL apart from the cpu. But in reality they are two completely different machines.
So I turned off Bluetooth and the problem does not occur anymore, WiFi disconnects as needed but it is obviously not a permanent fix. Another problem is the WiFi being on and off with 5 bars swapping between 4G and WiFi...
CleanROM again......
OK, I was doing some more reading and have since found that the developer of CleanROM has released a GSM patch so the hotspot on his ROMs now work.
You might remember i said earlier in this thread that CleanROM.3 worked best for me but the hotspot didn't work so i couldn't use it.
Now i have CleanROM installed again, Hotspot works, bluetooth both Audio & Phone work, and the WiFi at this stage seems to be doing what it should without having to manually toggle the bluetooth on and off. No apparent bugs to report at this stage.
Software Info on phone says this version is built around 1.29.728.12. I don't know if that means all ICS version of that number are good or not, but again its a place to start. Its looking like some versions have the issue and some don't, this re-assures me that it can be resolved within the software. I don't mind testing this stuff, as long as the developers don't mind developing it, and its a good learning curve.... its all good.
Check this CleanROM work out, it could be your answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1655011
I'll check back in in a day or so and update you on my WiFi situation.
Cheers!
Thanks again for all your research and assistance.
I have the Rogers variant, should be no problem flashing it to CleanROM correct? Also, for each new CleanROM update, I would have to wipe and flash again? Seems troublesome.
Can you advise on the process required to flash the ROM? I am new to Android and the steps in the thread is not as comprehensive.
Many thanks.
hi there, show you how to load roms, thats a big job for me....
...I'm new to this myself, but i know a tutorial that will save me a ton of typing.
you need to do 2 things first, before flashing roms.
1,Unlock your bootloader
2,Install clockworkmod
have a look at this ,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647272
Study this thread, very helpfull. He explains how to install clockworkmod on your device, once you have that done you are 80% there, and you only have to do this process once, once done, flashing roms will always be the last 20%, you never do this again.
Infact flashing roms and backing up your own rom is a very simply task. the commands are on a list, just choose them as you go. To backup, wipe, and flash a new rom takes me less than 10 minutes.
Go to you tube and look at this, this shows you how Clockworkmod works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOQEmQYFEeY
dont be freaked out, take it step by step, you'll be fine.
I also started this thread, regarding working roms for this wifi issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27585586#post27585586
no one has replyed yet, but it might yeild helpfull info later on perhaps
Thanks, I will do this shortly. Will unlocking the bootloader or doing any of the aforementioned steps give me the tampered signature?
Yes
yes, your phone will be marked.
Boot loader will be marked "Unlocked" , even if you relock it, its just gonna say "relocked" . nothing you can do about that.
The boot loader will also say "tampered" if you update the rom, but that msg dissappears completely if you update the phone via an RUU.exe
Can this hurt me with regards to warranty requests? I know I can remove the tampered status by flashing a stock ROM but I am concerned re: bootloader.