Hi!
I'm soooooo damn tired facing thousands of radio issues day in and day out
I'm using radio rom 1.15 and i find it extremely buggy . I looked through the forums and noone seems to be complaining, so i wonder if i'm the jinx here :/
The problems i face are -
1. All of a sudden i cant make calls. It throws a notification popup saying "The call has failed". Thanks! The only way out....restarting the radio. And yea, thats a nightmare too....going to comm manager, switching of phone, and switching it back on....the damn thing doesnt work right AT ALL! I switch it off....and push the button again to turn it back on, nothing happens....i push it again and again and again a million times....it gets too painful. So what do i do instead? soft reset
2. My gprs connectivity goes for a toss every now and then. again, the same ordeal....it never connects until i soft reset or restart the radio.
3. The worst part, when the phone module has taken a crap....i.e....reached a state where no calls go thru (refer problem 1.), i cant even receive incoming calls! The person calling me gets a ringing tone, but my phone's a dead corpse here. All messages sent to me are "apparently delivered" but nothing shows up here....
Is it just me?
Is there a better radio rom?
I restart my phone roughly 5 times a day, once in the morning when i wake up WITHOUT FAIL....and all this is getting to me really bad :-/
San
Well i see you are from Banglore,im from Hyderabad,i have been using the 1.15 radio for ome time now with the pdav latest rom(.09) sometimes my phone acts a little strangely like when receiving a call sometimes the incoming call icon stays there for about 10sec before the screen comes on the call status one.I switched over to radio 1.09 which i found the most stable on my O2 exec,but in my experience radio roms also behave differently depending on location,and also the os system try to use 1.09 as i found it the best for me in India.
Radio versions works differently depending on your location.
Try other radio versions.
Or better yet, just use the radio version that came with your device.
Do not upgrade your radio unless your having problems with it.
Like our friend here at xda-developers said, "If it's not broken, don't fix it."
arvind09 said:
Well i see you are from Banglore,im from Hyderabad,i have been using the 1.15 radio for ome time now with the pdav latest rom(.09) sometimes my phone acts a little strangely like when receiving a call sometimes the incoming call icon stays there for about 10sec before the screen comes on the call status one.I switched over to radio 1.09 which i found the most stable on my O2 exec,but in my experience radio roms also behave differently depending on location,and also the os system try to use 1.09 as i found it the best for me in India.
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well, i've reverted back to 1.09, lets see if its any better!
i feel sooo sick sometimes, i think of buying another normal phone! But hell, i love my universal so much that i cant do it....i'd rather put up with all the $hit it throws at me... !
cheers, and thanks for ur help everyone! i'll post back and let u knw if its still coughing up!
San
Radio Rom?
If you are still having issues, also post back your OS Rom that you are running, this may also have some bearing on the underlying issues.
Cheers,
Beast
Using radio 1.15:
With Ivan's base it causes my device to experience problems with the phone and GPRS\3G
With Midget's base everything seems to work fine
(btw I have an O2 Exec - Just suggesting that it may be the differences in hardware...)
dreamtheater39:
Same problem here.... Since I (sim) unlocked my MDA-Pro I'm experiencing EXACTLY the same problems as you have.
I posted several items on this forum, no success till now.
I'm thinking of reassembeling my old MDA-Pro, which is sim locked but screen broken. replacing the screen with my new (sim) unlocked MDA-Pro and see if the radio problem is still there. Just to exclude if the problem can be (sim) unlocking the phone...
But it is VERY anoying, I must agree...
regards
arjan
Also,.. I've tried almoast every Radio rom!! still no success.. even te Original T-Mobile rom (ROm and radio) give me problems...
So can it be the Sim unlocking (V1 by Buzzdev)?
A.
adonker said:
Also,.. I've tried almoast every Radio rom!! still no success.. even te Original T-Mobile rom (ROm and radio) give me problems...
So can it be the Sim unlocking (V1 by Buzzdev)?
A.
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Hi,
I doubt it is the SIm unlock.
I used Buzz's too, originally many Rom flashes past that.
I have Exec with Radio 15 and customised Rom with Midgets as base and no issues at all.
I would advise finding out what the latest Radio Ver offered by Manufac for your model and try that one for a bit.
Perhaps we should start a poll as to what each user is using and record Radio and OS Rom info with a comments section for any issues noted. It would at least help stablise WM6 builds.
Regards,
Beast
That damn radio issue!
I think it is time to stop discussing whether there is an issue and start looking for a fix!
First off: basically all HTC-phones have had a similar probblem, going back to the MDA 2. The key problem has been, that the data connection does not properly switch between mobile cells when you are on the move.
My device loses data connection every time I go into the parking garage, where there is no reception. Also, when I'm sitting in an area with very poor UMTS-coverage, the MDA-PRO loses connection after a few successful switches to GPRS. BTW: You can see you have a problem when Active Sync on the MDA says "Waiting for Network".
This wasn't such an issue as long as we didn't have the data connection constantly on. But, latest with the MS-Pushmail this has changed - the data connection is always on.
HTC and the operators have seemingly been working on this issue for quite some time. The only ROM on the MDA-PRO that was quite stable on this was actually the last T-Mobile WM-5 ROM.
With WM6 we are back to the issue. I no longer believe it is a problem with the Radio-ROM. Most likely is that there are differences in the driver dll. THis might explain why Midget's ROM seems to be better than IVAN's.
So, guys start troubleshooting!
Yes dreamtheater, are you running WM6? It is WM6 that seems to display these problems, regardless of the Radio. If I roll back to the official T-Mobile Rom (WM5) or Orange Rom (WM5) my problems disappear
HA!
Finally some usefull information. But very strange, buying a very expensive devise, but not being able to make a proper phonecall with it....
a.
YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I installed Radio 1.09 and so far sooooooooooo good!!!! None of the issues i mentioned, it works like a charm!!!
The only noticable issue i've found a couple times is, the gprs automatically disconnects once in a while, but i can ask it to reconnect and it does so without a fuss! Wowwwweeee!!!!
A BIGGG thanks to Arvind09 for this!!!!
So guys, i guess you got to try all radio roms and find which one works best for you, no other go as i see it
Cheers!
San
OH CRAP!!!!!!!!! I SPOKE TOOOOO SOON
Woke up early morning and the damn things crapped again :-/
The sobbing continues
If you tried different Radio Version and still does not work, it is time you change a service provider, provided you are sure that your hardware never had problems before.
Bangalore is a big city, coverage should be good, could it be the part of area you are in has bad coverage, try asking you friends about service provider other than your current one in that particular area.
If changing provider still does not work, make a complaint to the providers, it nothing improves, its time you need to move somewhere else.
I have the same issue when I keep the Radio Band in Auto mode (GSM/3G) I change my phone to GSM and it is better.
Ye, I did the same too. only switch manually to 3G when needed. I almost forgot about this point.
Furthermore, GSM mode makes the battery last more days than 3G mode.
encountered the same probs, 4 me radio 1.12 is the most stable one (I believe it's an exotic/not commonly used version)
I have been struggeling with this since the first WM6 Pre-release ROM came out on this forum. Tried all the radio ROMs available, without succes. As said, the only ROM that does not suffer from this, is the latest WM5 ROM.
dreamtheater39 said:
OH CRAP!!!!!!!!! I SPOKE TOOOOO SOON
Woke up early morning and the damn things crapped again :-/
The sobbing continues
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Ok could you tell me which provider are subscribed to? I use Airtel and hutch on both my pocket pc(universal and orbit)Ive noticed that airtel tends to loose its signal whereas hutch has never given me a problem.for this reason i use hutch on the Uni,though i cannot say that im very happy with their service,they are any day much better tha Airtel and Idea both.Also try to change the rom and see if the problem still persists.
Related
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
motocrossmann said:
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
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Great....but why start a new thread on an existing topic about the radio.
cuz he wanted to! so na-na-na-na
motocrossmann said:
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
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Just be sure that you're kaiser is "security unlockt" before installing 1.65.17.10, then there is no problem to change to another radio.
monkey0 said:
Just be sure that you're kaiser is "security unlockt" before installing 1.65.17.10, then there is no problem to change to another radio.
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How can check this ?
Faster4 said:
How can check this ?
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Hold in the camera button then hit reset. On the top of the bootloader screen should say "security unlocked"
Com'on guys. This is a PUBLIC forum. As long as he follow the rules, and I think he is fine. lately I have see so many "police" wants ppl to follow he or her rules.
I understand how difficult to read the same post again and again.
His topic might not interest you, but here I am. I like to know what are the benefits from previous user.
Please do not judge people by your standard.
BTW, what I do not like to see is: "good job", "you the best", "Dutty, you did it again"...etc all the good words. That is what I call a waste of my time. But you see hundreds of posts like that. This is just an example. What I like to see is the "pro" and "con", so I can narrow down the actual benfit of flash to a new ROM. I have never see anyone here saying anthing about this. Everytime when a new ROM update, I probably have to read more than 50% on good words. Tell me about that!!
rac2371 said:
Hold in the camera button then hit reset. On the top of the bootloader screen should say "security unlocked"
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I'm doing everything you say but it shows me the three color screen without say "security unlocked" . What else can I do to unlock it?
Thank you
Being a chef, putting out a special rom for the public takes a great deal of time. They need the certain feedback from users on the rom. The first few posts are cluttered with the good jobs and great rom, but this is the thing to thank the chefs for their time and efforts.
As for this thread, I know its dug up in there, but people have stated the benefits in the 1.65.17.10 radio thread. The Kaiser ROM development forum is really cluttered with a lot of threads so having these redundent threads just makes the development forum more cluttered.
Penske MB said:
Com'on guys. This is a PUBLIC forum. As long as he follow the rules, and I think he is fine. lately I have see so many "police" wants ppl to follow he or her rules.
I understand how difficult to read the same post again and again.
His topic might not interest you, but here I am. I like to know what are the benefits from previous user.
Please do not judge people by your standard.
BTW, what I do not like to see is: "good job", "you the best", "Dutty, you did it again"...etc all the good words. That is what I call a waste of my time. But you see hundreds of posts like that. This is just an example. What I like to see is the "pro" and "con", so I can narrow down the actual benfit of flash to a new ROM. I have never see anyone here saying anthing about this. Everytime when a new ROM update, I probably have to read more than 50% on good words. Tell me about that!!
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Faster4 said:
I'm doing everything you say but it shows me the three color screen without say "security unlocked" . What else can I do to unlock it?
Thank you
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You could follow the info/link in the WiKi
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
That would take you here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
motocrossmann said:
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
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Motorcross,
Tq for yourfeedback. I face the same problem with what u had but mine is more serious!!! My EDGE connection (I am in Malaysia using DiGi) lasts only minutes. 50% of the time a reconnections do not get my connection back and the wait for the disconnection of "E" takes 2-3minutes too. So far as you had mention, all the ROMs and RADIOs i have tried did not solve this issue and no one here had any clue to this. I am really TEMPTED to test this radio from HELL but am worried I may get more hell should it not solve my problem.. Appreciate your input here
thomassster said:
Being a chef, putting out a special rom for the public takes a great deal of time. They need the certain feedback from users on the rom. The first few posts are cluttered with the good jobs and great rom, but this is the thing to thank the chefs for their time and efforts.
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Feedback is far better thanks than just "thanks." If people are saying thanks, then they are probably using the ROM, and if they're using the ROM they should have something to say about it. Even if it's just a few things they like.
motocrossmann said:
OK, we all know the problem with radio 1.65.17.10... DO NOT FLASH IT, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE RADIOS!!!
I actually found a major benefit (for me) to use it.
I had been experiencing problems with ATT here in California, where my data connection would just stop working, despite showing it being connected. The fix would be easy, just disconnect the data session and reconnect and it would be fine again for awhile (anywhere from an hour to a day). The problem for me is that I use direct-push email for work, when the data connection would fail, there was no warning of a problem. Emails would go missing until I checked Activesync, noticed the failure, and reinitiated the data connection. Very annoying, and easy to miss important messages...
So after troubleshooting with ATT, to no avail, and numberous trys with various radios and ROMs here on XDA, I decided to try it.
My issue has been gone for 4 days now. It is possible that Dutty's new Hybrid v2 helped, but all of his previous ROMs had the problem. So, it was either the new radio, or the new ROM.
DO NOT INSTALL THIS RADIO, YOU CAN'T REMOVE IT CURRENTLY!!!! (but it worked well for me)
For all the bad things about this ROM, read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395
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I have asked this in the Dutty's ROM section but no answer - so let me try here. I was wondering if this radio would solve a big problem I have had ever since I switched to Dutty's ROM. In HSDPA mode I have lost the feature of simultaneous data and voice. Before I flashed over from the AT&T stock ROM I was able to stream from my Slingbox or Sirius Radio applications and, when I got a phone call, the phone would ring and I could make the call. Post call, the data session would still be active.
With all the Dutty ROMs I have tried once the call comes in - or is placed - the data session ends. BTW - If I switch my SIM over to my Blackjack the simultaneous data/voice feature returns - the BJ has a cooked WM 6.1 ROM also.
Have you found that this radio resolves those issues??
rdecker692000 said:
I have asked this in the Dutty's ROM section but no answer - so let me try here. I was wondering if this radio would solve a big problem I have had ever since I switched to Dutty's ROM. In HSDPA mode I have lost the feature of simultaneous data and voice. Before I flashed over from the AT&T stock ROM I was able to stream from my Slingbox or Sirius Radio applications and, when I got a phone call, the phone would ring and I could make the call. Post call, the data session would still be active.
With all the Dutty ROMs I have tried once the call comes in - or is placed - the data session ends. BTW - If I switch my SIM over to my Blackjack the simultaneous data/voice feature returns - the BJ has a cooked WM 6.1 ROM also.
Have you found that this radio resolves those issues??
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Hmm, I never had that problem and still don't. I have tested simultaneous data with my phone and it works fine pre/post installing this radio.
cmloo said:
Motorcross,
Tq for yourfeedback. I face the same problem with what u had but mine is more serious!!! My EDGE connection (I am in Malaysia using DiGi) lasts only minutes. 50% of the time a reconnections do not get my connection back and the wait for the disconnection of "E" takes 2-3minutes too. So far as you had mention, all the ROMs and RADIOs i have tried did not solve this issue and no one here had any clue to this. I am really TEMPTED to test this radio from HELL but am worried I may get more hell should it not solve my problem.. Appreciate your input here
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Well, I wish I could provide you some good advice on that one, but your problem is quite different than mine. Have you tried changing the GPRS authendication menthod? PAP vs CHAP?
Odd - I have tried a bunch of the Kaiser, Sena and Niki radios with the same issues. Once I go back to the stock AT&T ROM all is well. Definitely not worth running the AT&T ROM for the feature; I may try one of the Non-Dutty ROMs just for a test.
Hi Guys,
I am having a strangle problem with my VOX. The phone's radio is getting turned off every now and then.
The phone will show full network signal and the very next second the signal bar becomes empty followed by an automatic turn off and turn on of the phone's radio. Sometimes it keeps on restarting the phone's radio for 5 to 6 times. It is driving me crazy as most of the time when someone calls me, my phone is in the switch off mode and I never realize that unless I am staring at my phone. And it is happening at least once or twice an hour.
I upgraded my phone to the latest ROM version 1.34.405.1 but still getting the problem. Actually I feel the problem has become worst now after the upgrade.
Any thoughts on what could be causing it?
Thanks!
that doesn't sound familiar
did you try with the original radio version too?
What radio version do you have? There are updates on the ftp! ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Smartphone/Vox/Radios
The radio version I have is Radio 4.1.13.54_03.10.90.
I had the same issue (not so frequent) with my previous radio also. I guess it was 4.1.13.41. That came with the phone when I bought it.
But one thing I noticed; when I am in the office I am not encountering this issue (at least not for the last 8 hours) but when I am at home, this issue appears very frequently. Wondering whether there could be any network parameter trigerring this behavior.
maybe its the networks issue
you should try to compare the readings you get from the service menu at the office and at home, and give them a call
>>you should try to compare the readings you get from the service menu at the office and at home, and give them a call
What reading are you talking about? Also, how can I collect that?
Thanks again for all your thoughts.
he means that you should check the network strength at your workplace and your home.
Hi Guys;
Slightly OT, but hopefully someone can help.
I have recently upgraded the GF from a Nokia 6230i (about 2 years old) to a Orange E650 (Vox) running Dr Martin Gonzo's ROM, which is very nice... The E650 was a refurb that i bought from the Orange Store on ebay.
The issue is that reception at home is far worse than it was on the nokia - and is almost unusable at home... I did a check last night and the radio installed is a very old radio (doesn't appear on the FTP..)
Can anyone suggest what is the best Radio to use that will work with Dr Gonzo's ROM? (and is it a simple job to upgrade )
Cheers
SF
I am using Radio 4.1.13.54_03.10.90 on win 6.1 from Dr Gonzo. I works like a charm.
secosan said:
I am using Radio 4.1.13.54_03.10.90 on win 6.1 from Dr Gonzo. I works like a charm.
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Thanks Secosan.
Will give that a go!
SF
Same problem, even with all Radios all ROMs....
Goes to searching mode all the time...i don´t know what to do...my unit is still on warranty period...can i do something ?
HELP !
My issue seems to be network related. As I mentioned in my earlier post, I am encountering this issue only when I am at home and everywhere outside the phone is working nicely.
It is kind of making me think whether the network reception capability of the phone has gone down slightly and hence the no network issue when the network is slightly weak.
Hello everyone,
I have the latest AT&T 6.1 ROM, downloaded from the HTC site for the Tilt. Here's a couple of problems that I have, that I can't get search results for.
1. VERY often, when a person calls me and I answer, I can't hear anyone on the other end! The same results when I make an outbound call as well. The device says that I'm connected to the other party, but I can't hear that.
2. When I AM actively connected, VERY often my bluetooth headset will just DECIDE to disconnect! Now, the DEVICE is still connected, but I have to either quickly put it to my ear to not miss what the other party is saying, or, I've noticed that if I push the multifunction button on the earpiece (Jawbone), it will reconnect.
Any help with these two issues would be appreciated. This has ONLY begun since I've installed the newest AT&T 6.1 ROM, which is supposed to be for the Tilt... which I have.
I'm REALLY frustrated...
Maybe try the original 6.0 rom and see if it still happens. If it does, and your phone is under a year, I would definitely send your phone in for warranty.
Jason
i have 3 words for you,
1-radio
2-radio
3-radio..................
try changing your radio and see if the problem persists, but i smell a radio problem behind all of this
maiahsdad said:
Hello everyone,
I have the latest AT&T 6.1 ROM, downloaded from the HTC site for the Tilt. Here's a couple of problems that I have, that I can't get search results for.
1. VERY often, when a person calls me and I answer, I can't hear anyone on the other end! The same results when I make an outbound call as well. The device says that I'm connected to the other party, but I can't hear that.
2. When I AM actively connected, VERY often my bluetooth headset will just DECIDE to disconnect! Now, the DEVICE is still connected, but I have to either quickly put it to my ear to not miss what the other party is saying, or, I've noticed that if I push the multifunction button on the earpiece (Jawbone), it will reconnect.
Any help with these two issues would be appreciated. This has ONLY begun since I've installed the newest AT&T 6.1 ROM, which is supposed to be for the Tilt... which I have.
I'm REALLY frustrated...
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did you do a hard reset? if not try that and see if that helps
Without a doubt an issue with your radio version. I had the same issues when I switched from WM6 to 6.1 - turned out my radio only worked w/ version 6 and caused my phone to only work half of the time.
SilverVenom said:
Without a doubt an issue with your radio version. I had the same issues when I switched from WM6 to 6.1 - turned out my radio only worked w/ version 6 and caused my phone to only work half of the time.
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You are Switching from a 6.0 to 6.1...it probably is a radio issue...just go to the ultimate radio thread in my signature and download a 6.1 radio and try it....it will only take a few seconds
the stock wm6.1 at&t rom that he loaded comes with a functional radio made for that rom so unless he flashed a radio that is for wm6 after he updated then yes its the radio
looks like Radio problem.. but if you install the ATT official rom you have allready one for 6.1 windows.. Like already say MSD24200
but try one from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
i prefer the 1.65.24.36 NIKI Radio
you must select one of 1.65.xx.xx or 1.70.xx.xx
Comm Manager?
b16b said:
looks like Radio problem.. but if you install the ATT official rom you have allready one for 6.1 windows.. Like already say MSD24200
but try one from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
i prefer the 1.65.24.36 NIKI Radio
you must select one of 1.65.xx.xx or 1.70.xx.xx
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Bob,
I using the eOS 4.888 ROM on AT&T and I have the "silent call" issue too. It seems to have come up only in the past month or so. I'm on my 4th radio, currently a Polaris 1.59.42.23. The Polaris Radio seems to make the problem less frequent, but it is still there. My first though was this is an AT&T issue but there is a thread in the Kaiser General section about this, and posts in the Ultimate Radio thread that indicate the issue is occurring outside of the AT&T network as well.
The issue has been blamed on radios, ROM, and bluetooth, but in my experience with it, I'm thinking it might be Comm Manager related, but I don't know enough to know how the Comm Manager interacts with the radio/ROM to really be helpful.
I do know that the person who figures out the answer to this problem will make quite a few folks on this board very happy!!
Jim
Same Issue
I am having the same issue. I have the official 6.1 ROM from HTC on the att tilt. I flashed it on a friday and did not notice issues with not hearing the person on the other end when connected until a few days later. I looked at the ultimate radio thread according to that, I have the correct radio for my rom version:
ROM version: 3.57.502.2 WWE
ROM date: 07/17/08
Radio version: 1.65.21.18
Protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
Could it still be a radio issue? Or something else?
jpcrailjr said:
Bob,
I using the eOS 4.888 ROM on AT&T and I have the "silent call" issue too. It seems to have come up only in the past month or so. I'm on my 4th radio, currently a Polaris 1.59.42.23. The Polaris Radio seems to make the problem less frequent, but it is still there. My first though was this is an AT&T issue but there is a thread in the Kaiser General section about this, and posts in the Ultimate Radio thread that indicate the issue is occurring outside of the AT&T network as well.
The issue has been blamed on radios, ROM, and bluetooth, but in my experience with it, I'm thinking it might be Comm Manager related, but I don't know enough to know how the Comm Manager interacts with the radio/ROM to really be helpful.
I do know that the person who figures out the answer to this problem will make quite a few folks on this board very happy!!
Jim
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It is not Comm mgr related as I have tried several to no avail, Also several 6.1 roms and several radios . No luck.
Hopefully a mod can combine this thread with this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438457 so we can all work on this together.
Can't hear other party......
Did anyone find a solution to this yet? I have flashed all the compatable rabios with the tilt running the official wm6.1 from htc. And I am still making and receiving calls with not being able to hear the other party(as well as them not being able to hear me).
The main function of the tilt is a PHONE!
Hard reset after flash maybe?
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Did anyone find a solution to this yet? I have flashed all the compatable rabios with the tilt running the official wm6.1 from htc. And I am still making and receiving calls with not being able to hear the other party(as well as them not being able to hear me).
The main function of the tilt is a PHONE!
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It has to do with 6.1 . We are trying to pool all our information on one thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438457
Nika has reflashed to a 6.0 rom, and that appears to have eliminated the problem.
Again, if a Mod could merge these threads, we could all work togther on this.
Thanks.
kaisernewb said:
Did anyone find a solution to this yet? I have flashed all the compatable rabios with the tilt running the official wm6.1 from htc. And I am still making and receiving calls with not being able to hear the other party(as well as them not being able to hear me).
The main function of the tilt is a PHONE!
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If it is not radio, then it is a connection issue with your USB port. I had this happen to me and frustrated the heck out of me until I discovered that the tether that is inside the USB port on the device was loose, as if it was cracked. I must have done that while jabbing the stylus in it without using my glasses to soft reset. I discovered the issue by accident when the phone was plugged to be charged and i received a phone call. every time i wiggled the phone the conversation sound would get muted or interrupted. I ended up returning the Tilt to AT&T as a defective device and got a refurbished one that works. Test it and let us know.
Hi everyone..
I use Vox with Airtel prepaid in India..
My phone is one year old now.. still under warranty..
I am facing a serious problem with calls as many incoming calls are not being notified on the phone.. though the caller says that he hears the call ringing..
This way i'm losing many calls..
There is a Thread in the forum about this problem but nobody came up with a good solution..
They said in that Thread that only thing that might work may be radio version change..
Now my questions-
1. Does anyone have a better solution to the call drop problem?
2. I am using the original ROM that came with the phone.. so can i change radio without affecting the original ROM.. will i lose my warranty?
3. Where can i get the latest radio?
4. Whats the procedure to change it?
THANKS EVERYONE.. AWAITING REPLY
lots of the radio roms can be found on xda ftp
you wont loose any data (but be sure your phone is fully charged!)
i dont know about warranty^^
its same prcedure like flashing a normal rom!
maybe uspl (first threat) is nessecary this coudl cause loose of waranty!
So you are the guy who has shown us the way for surfing via Airtel NOP. Thanks for that. And using UCWEB 6.3 java browser may allow you to remove NOP download limitation.
Now about your query. I think there is nothing regarding radio ver for India. I think the latest ver is 4.1.13.60 which I am using at present. By default my VOX came with previous ver 4.1.13.54. I have also tried the 4.1.13.47. All three are good and I could not notice any significant difference amongst them. All are available for download _ see wiki.
Reagarding flashing - the process is same as flashing OS ROMS and it shouldnot affect your installed apps - but then keeping a backup is always good. It will need unlocking your phone and also doing USPL which will void the warranty. But I dont think thats a problem. If anything goes wromg reflashing with shipped ROM should solve the problem before taking it to service centre.
One more thing when there is a question of warranty why not flash with original shipped ROM - I think it will not require unlocking and doing USPL. In the process your phone may also get rectified.
Try this solution!
asmarttechie said:
Hi everyone..
I use Vox with Airtel prepaid in India..
My phone is one year old now.. still under warranty..
I am facing a serious problem with calls as many incoming calls are not being notified on the phone.. though the caller says that he hears the call ringing..
This way i'm losing many calls..
There is a Thread in the forum about this problem but nobody came up with a good solution..
They said in that Thread that only thing that might work may be radio version change..
Now my questions-
1. Does anyone have a better solution to the call drop problem?
2. I am using the original ROM that came with the phone.. so can i change radio without affecting the original ROM.. will i lose my warranty?
3. Where can i get the latest radio?
4. Whats the procedure to change it?
THANKS EVERYONE.. AWAITING REPLY
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hi there. i had a similar problem. what software and third party programs r u running? sometimes when the base memory dips below say 8 mb, this can happen bcos a program called connmgr.exe gets disabled. so what happens is, the call is completed, but u cant either pick up the phone while ringing,. at best it shows up as a missed call notification. i dont think this is an issue with ur radio at all. my advice is, shut down most running programs. use a hibernate function that is available on software such as smart toolkit ( or sk tools lite ). this should solve ur problem. if not, pm me with a list of whatever 3rd party software u have.
Have you tried hard reset? A lot of times, some or the other intalled application causes problems, a hard reset cleans up such mess, but cleans up all your data and app from the phone memory as well .
what is ur radio version by the way? mines a pretty old one, and works perfectly ok. as addicted2xda says, try a hard reset if u have no other choice. im convincedthat it is an issue f free memory only. happened to me lots of times...have changed my rom now to fireburned's lite rom. seems to be pretty good so far!
Bro...
If you are on Airtel Pre Paid...this will continue to haunt you........ try as many ROM's and Radio Versions....... NO USE
I faced the same problem with Airtel Pre Paid in New Delhi..... I have tried all the Radio Versions available on the Net and as many as I could lay my hands on from elsewhere
Ultimate Solution.........
DUMPED the VOX till the time I am on Airtel Pre Paid and bought a Samsung......
Neither Airtel nor HTC Service Center has any solution to the problem..... Though HTC Service Center guys are dumbest ass**** you will ever find....
This problem was raised by me ages back in this forum and modaco.... was suggested some solutions but nothing works......
the choice was either continue to loose business or change the Handset..... I chose the latter....
best of luck
BTW if you find any solution....lemme know too
hey i was on airtel prepaid in madras, had no problems whatsoever. the great bsnl gave me hell earlier. but i had another handset then. dont be in a hurry to dump ur phone....just try it out. i dont know abt the signal quality in delhi though. on roaming it was pretty ok to me
else change over to postpaid. seems to make quite a difference. they do have a few good schemes. the postpaid scheme is supposed to come with a 64 k sim card which is faster and seems to have better signal reception. maybe that'll solve ur problem.
Hi...
I was never in hurry to dump the phone as I have been a HTC user thru'out....starting with SPV aka Canary...and so on....
I even changed the SIM to 64K ...
Tried every conceivable solution...... scanned the Phone for virus/ worms, tried all ROM furnished by the Learned here in the Forum.... Tried the Shipped WWE ROM with the original Radio version.....Tried all Radio versions including the Arabic Radio, Shipped Radio versions....
but the result was the same...
as for the signal quality..... am at same office and same factory as I was when I was using Canary, or other HTC phones and now Samsung.... so wudnt blame signal strength or location for the issue...
again.... if you find a solution lemme know too as the VOX is being used as her play mobile by my 7 yr old daughter at the moment.
thanxxx
BTW... try the Bluetooth Registry patch from HTC site and see if it helps your cause...because HTC claims that if you are using Bluetooth there are chances of Call drop. This is a suggestion from my side as I use Bluetooth Hands Free all the time and tried the Patch on my VOX but still the problem remained .... see if it helps ya out.
indtram said:
Hi...
I was never in hurry to dump the phone as I have been a HTC user thru'out....starting with SPV aka Canary...and so on....
I even changed the SIM to 64K ...
Tried every conceivable solution...... scanned the Phone for virus/ worms, tried all ROM furnished by the Learned here in the Forum.... Tried the Shipped WWE ROM with the original Radio version.....Tried all Radio versions including the Arabic Radio, Shipped Radio versions....
but the result was the same...
as for the signal quality..... am at same office and same factory as I was when I was using Canary, or other HTC phones and now Samsung.... so wudnt blame signal strength or location for the issue...
again.... if you find a solution lemme know too as the VOX is being used as her play mobile by my 7 yr old daughter at the moment.
thanxxx
BTW... try the Bluetooth Registry patch from HTC site and see if it helps your cause...because HTC claims that if you are using Bluetooth there are chances of Call drop. This is a suggestion from my side as I use Bluetooth Hands Free all the time and tried the Patch on my VOX but still the problem remained .... see if it helps ya out.
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HMMM.....man, i pity ur fate! but did u try shutting down all running programs? again, what third party stuff did u have running? as i said earlier, a program called connmgr.exe shuts down or malfunctions at memory levels <8mb. send me a list of what third party stuff u had. maybe theres something in that!
mines very old radio and rom. never had this problem, and in madras the signal per se anywhere is lousy. so maybe it isnt an issue with the firmware at all. what rom were u using last? and wht radio version?
Last ROM on my Phone:
Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard (Build 20282.1.3.6) by frauhottelmann
Last Radio Version Tried:
4.1.13.47_02.98.90
RIL Version
2.002
The Signal strength shown on the phone has NO Issues whatsoever....
No other software running on the device other than the ones started by the frau's ROM.... was aware of the fact that some third party softwares could create issues so never bothered loading them unless got the phone working in stable mode for a week or so......
thanxxx
Alright, so I'm a fairly new owner of a Raphael (previously owned a Hermes as you may have guessed from my username), and I've been reading constantly just trying to catch up on all the knowledge pertaining to the Raphael. In fact, I haven't even decided whether to purchase Olipro's unlock yet.
Anyway, after testing multiple roms, I upgraded to RRE V4 Final 2 (then seeing RRE V5 shortly afterwards; go figure). Anyway, it worked great at first, but then I soon noticed enormous battery draining. Something like 10-15% drainage every hour. Researching, I discovered some people were able to solve the problem by changing radios, so I did the same.
After some testing, I tried 1.12.25.19, and I'm in love.
The battery problems are gone, the calls are clear, and so on, but the mot impressive thing is how well the GPS is functioning now. When I first got the Raphael, I had to spend three days of testing before I was able to get the damn thing to even work for the first time. After that, I had to wait roughly 15-30 minutes every time I start the GPS up before it would start functioning right.
After I changed to radio 1.12.25.19, though, things seems to have taken a turn for the better. Testing the GPS with the radio for the first time, I step out of my front door, turn it on, and there was a lock in less than 10 seconds. I almost couldn't believe it and I was, of course, happy.
But the really impressive thing occurred less than 20 minutes ago. See, I had made plans to visit a place, and needed to save the address in my GPS. I turned on my GPS software first, but while I was searching for the address I needed, the GPS software suddenly lit up. I was confused for a moment as to what happened before it hit me that there was a GPS lock. In an area of my house which I didn't realize could be done. To emphasize this point, I had owned a dedicated GPS receiver before which had barely been able to get a lock in this area, and it didn't lock half as fast as the Raphael did (less than 10 seconds again).
Of course, the GPS is not everything for everyone, but as I said, battery life and call reception seem fairly impressive too. Furthermore, from my searching, it seems as if a lot of other members consider it to be a fairly impressive radio too. If nothing else, considering the GPS problems some seem to have (including me previously), the ability to get the GPS to work like this is real quality.
(Thanks to all for reading!)
Thanks for your review. I 'll definetely try it because today I realize that a "simle" 80 euro phone had full signal while my TP was 2/5. First thing tomorow after flashing latest Lantis ;-)
I agree 100%. I am using a custom rom and this radio. The results are amazing. Good battery life and GPS like it should be.
So far so good with RRE 5.2; but only a couple of hours. Picked up two sats from down stairs in a 2 story.
8525Smart said:
Alright, so I'm a fairly new owner of a Raphael (previously owned a Hermes as you may have guessed from my username), and I've been reading constantly just trying to catch up on all the knowledge pertaining to the Raphael. In fact, I haven't even decided whether to purchase Olipro's unlock yet.
Anyway, after testing multiple roms, I upgraded to RRE V4 Final 2 (then seeing RRE V5 shortly afterwards; go figure). Anyway, it worked great at first, but then I soon noticed enormous battery draining. Something like 10-15% drainage every hour. Researching, I discovered some people were able to solve the problem by changing radios, so I did the same.
After some testing, I tried 1.12.25.19, and I'm in love.
The battery problems are gone, the calls are clear, and so on, but the mot impressive thing is how well the GPS is functioning now. When I first got the Raphael, I had to spend three days of testing before I was able to get the damn thing to even work for the first time. After that, I had to wait roughly 15-30 minutes every time I start the GPS up before it would start functioning right.
After I changed to radio 1.12.25.19, though, things seems to have taken a turn for the better. Testing the GPS with the radio for the first time, I step out of my front door, turn it on, and there was a lock in less than 10 seconds. I almost couldn't believe it and I was, of course, happy.
But the really impressive thing occurred less than 20 minutes ago. See, I had made plans to visit a place, and needed to save the address in my GPS. I turned on my GPS software first, but while I was searching for the address I needed, the GPS software suddenly lit up. I was confused for a moment as to what happened before it hit me that there was a GPS lock. In an area of my house which I didn't realize could be done. To emphasize this point, I had owned a dedicated GPS receiver before which had barely been able to get a lock in this area, and it didn't lock half as fast as the Raphael did (less than 10 seconds again).
Of course, the GPS is not everything for everyone, but as I said, battery life and call reception seem fairly impressive too. Furthermore, from my searching, it seems as if a lot of other members consider it to be a fairly impressive radio too. If nothing else, considering the GPS problems some seem to have (including me previously), the ability to get the GPS to work like this is real quality.
(Thanks to all for reading!)
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hi. out of curiosity, which radio did you upgrade from?
For some reason i cant get it to install it said its Radio 1.100 when im on the RUU
I've noticed the same improvements with this radio.
GPS locks most of the time before the application completely loads, dropped calls gone, battery life improved.
Mine is an at&t branded, with the "leaked" at&t rom.
fuzemaster said:
hi. out of curiosity, which radio did you upgrade from?
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Well, I had tested the Raphael 1.11.25.01 first before moving to the Raphael 1.11.25.19. The former worked well, but the GPS lock was still kind of slow. It also may have been my imagination, but call quality seemed to have been worse.
lilhgarcia1 said:
For some reason i cant get it to install it said its Radio 1.100 when im on the RUU
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Did you get the radio from here?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2822877&postcount=2
That's where I got mine and it worked perfectly.
Radio Thread
Thanks for the review, next time could you please post it in the radio thread where it is suppose to be instead of starting a new thread. Thanks
Upgrading radio
Never been one brave enough to mess with the ROM's for fear of bricking mine. I NEED my phone hourly for work and personal, so down time for me, monkeying with it, is not an option.
However, concerning the radio. Is it possible to just upgrade the radio portion and not the entire ROM. I apologize if there is a link for this already.
TIA,
James
You'll always have the risk of bricking your phone when you flash, but it's not likely. In order to flash a radio you'll still need to flash the boot loader with hardspl first, which will require a backup and restore of your existing data else all is lost. For that reason I'm sticking with my current radio because I'd rather not goof with reloading all of my data and registry tweaks. See the noob flashing thread (including details about hardspl) here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
8525Smart said:
Alright, so I'm a fairly new owner of a Raphael (previously owned a Hermes as you may have guessed from my username), and I've been reading constantly just trying to catch up on all the knowledge pertaining to the Raphael. In fact, I haven't even decided whether to purchase Olipro's unlock yet.
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You should totally get the unlocker, then you could flash the 1.12.25.16 radio, which is waaaay better than the 1.12.25.19.
lilhgarcia1 said:
For some reason i cant get it to install it said its Radio 1.100 when im on the RUU
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Just go on! It's ok!
jwb1969 said:
Never been one brave enough to mess with the ROM's for fear of bricking mine. I NEED my phone hourly for work and personal, so down time for me, monkeying with it, is not an option.
However, concerning the radio. Is it possible to just upgrade the radio portion and not the entire ROM. I apologize if there is a link for this already.
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Oh yes, you can change the radio without changing the ROM. Just make sure you have HardSPL installed first (it won't require a hard reset either).
Farmer Ted said:
You should totally get the unlocker, then you could flash the 1.12.25.16 radio, which is waaaay better than the 1.12.25.19.
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Hmm, that's the Blackstone radio, right? Even better than 1.12.25.19? Sounds tempting. I think I'll upgrade to it later if I ever get the unlock. Thanks for the recommendation!
i have a fuze and ive never done a radio flash before on any of my htc phones so i know nothing about it. but gps sucks. i have hardspl and a custom rom. what else do i need? do i need the olipro sim unlock? i spent all my money on this phone and dont really want to have to pay for me. :|
This radio is pretty good. GPS works great and I get good reception but my data rates suck with this radio. I originally thought my new sim that was causing the problem but I've eliminated all other factors down to this radio.
fuzemaster said:
In order to flash a radio you'll still need to flash the boot loader with hardspl first, which will require a backup and restore of your existing data else all is lost.
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Not true. You can do hardspl and flash a radio without losing all your data. It is only when you flash the actual ROM that data is erased. What I do is the SD card method, where I rename the radio to RAPHIMG.nbh, put it on my sd card root and enter bootloader. No messing around with activesync.
Sorry for the nub question... will these radios work for any carrier? or do I have to find one that works works with Sprint?
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Sorry for the nub question... will these radios work for any carrier? or do I have to find one that works works with Sprint?
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Definitely do not flash this radio to a sprint phone. Sprint's TP is a CDMA device and you have to flash CDMA radios.
good to know...