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[SPOKE TOOO SOON] Sick and tired about Radio issues :( :(

Hi!
I'm soooooo damn tired facing thousands of radio issues day in and day out
I'm using radio rom 1.15 and i find it extremely buggy . I looked through the forums and noone seems to be complaining, so i wonder if i'm the jinx here :/
The problems i face are -
1. All of a sudden i cant make calls. It throws a notification popup saying "The call has failed". Thanks! The only way out....restarting the radio. And yea, thats a nightmare too....going to comm manager, switching of phone, and switching it back on....the damn thing doesnt work right AT ALL! I switch it off....and push the button again to turn it back on, nothing happens....i push it again and again and again a million times....it gets too painful. So what do i do instead? soft reset
2. My gprs connectivity goes for a toss every now and then. again, the same ordeal....it never connects until i soft reset or restart the radio.
3. The worst part, when the phone module has taken a crap....i.e....reached a state where no calls go thru (refer problem 1.), i cant even receive incoming calls! The person calling me gets a ringing tone, but my phone's a dead corpse here. All messages sent to me are "apparently delivered" but nothing shows up here....
Is it just me?
Is there a better radio rom?
I restart my phone roughly 5 times a day, once in the morning when i wake up WITHOUT FAIL....and all this is getting to me really bad :-/
San

Well i see you are from Banglore,im from Hyderabad,i have been using the 1.15 radio for ome time now with the pdav latest rom(.09) sometimes my phone acts a little strangely like when receiving a call sometimes the incoming call icon stays there for about 10sec before the screen comes on the call status one.I switched over to radio 1.09 which i found the most stable on my O2 exec,but in my experience radio roms also behave differently depending on location,and also the os system try to use 1.09 as i found it the best for me in India.

Radio versions works differently depending on your location.
Try other radio versions.
Or better yet, just use the radio version that came with your device.
Do not upgrade your radio unless your having problems with it.
Like our friend here at xda-developers said, "If it's not broken, don't fix it."

arvind09 said:
Well i see you are from Banglore,im from Hyderabad,i have been using the 1.15 radio for ome time now with the pdav latest rom(.09) sometimes my phone acts a little strangely like when receiving a call sometimes the incoming call icon stays there for about 10sec before the screen comes on the call status one.I switched over to radio 1.09 which i found the most stable on my O2 exec,but in my experience radio roms also behave differently depending on location,and also the os system try to use 1.09 as i found it the best for me in India.
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well, i've reverted back to 1.09, lets see if its any better!
i feel sooo sick sometimes, i think of buying another normal phone! But hell, i love my universal so much that i cant do it....i'd rather put up with all the $hit it throws at me... !
cheers, and thanks for ur help everyone! i'll post back and let u knw if its still coughing up!
San

Radio Rom?
If you are still having issues, also post back your OS Rom that you are running, this may also have some bearing on the underlying issues.
Cheers,
Beast

Using radio 1.15:
With Ivan's base it causes my device to experience problems with the phone and GPRS\3G
With Midget's base everything seems to work fine
(btw I have an O2 Exec - Just suggesting that it may be the differences in hardware...)

dreamtheater39:
Same problem here.... Since I (sim) unlocked my MDA-Pro I'm experiencing EXACTLY the same problems as you have.
I posted several items on this forum, no success till now.
I'm thinking of reassembeling my old MDA-Pro, which is sim locked but screen broken. replacing the screen with my new (sim) unlocked MDA-Pro and see if the radio problem is still there. Just to exclude if the problem can be (sim) unlocking the phone...
But it is VERY anoying, I must agree...
regards
arjan

Also,.. I've tried almoast every Radio rom!! still no success.. even te Original T-Mobile rom (ROm and radio) give me problems...
So can it be the Sim unlocking (V1 by Buzzdev)?
A.

adonker said:
Also,.. I've tried almoast every Radio rom!! still no success.. even te Original T-Mobile rom (ROm and radio) give me problems...
So can it be the Sim unlocking (V1 by Buzzdev)?
A.
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Hi,
I doubt it is the SIm unlock.
I used Buzz's too, originally many Rom flashes past that.
I have Exec with Radio 15 and customised Rom with Midgets as base and no issues at all.
I would advise finding out what the latest Radio Ver offered by Manufac for your model and try that one for a bit.
Perhaps we should start a poll as to what each user is using and record Radio and OS Rom info with a comments section for any issues noted. It would at least help stablise WM6 builds.
Regards,
Beast

That damn radio issue!
I think it is time to stop discussing whether there is an issue and start looking for a fix!
First off: basically all HTC-phones have had a similar probblem, going back to the MDA 2. The key problem has been, that the data connection does not properly switch between mobile cells when you are on the move.
My device loses data connection every time I go into the parking garage, where there is no reception. Also, when I'm sitting in an area with very poor UMTS-coverage, the MDA-PRO loses connection after a few successful switches to GPRS. BTW: You can see you have a problem when Active Sync on the MDA says "Waiting for Network".
This wasn't such an issue as long as we didn't have the data connection constantly on. But, latest with the MS-Pushmail this has changed - the data connection is always on.
HTC and the operators have seemingly been working on this issue for quite some time. The only ROM on the MDA-PRO that was quite stable on this was actually the last T-Mobile WM-5 ROM.
With WM6 we are back to the issue. I no longer believe it is a problem with the Radio-ROM. Most likely is that there are differences in the driver dll. THis might explain why Midget's ROM seems to be better than IVAN's.
So, guys start troubleshooting!

Yes dreamtheater, are you running WM6? It is WM6 that seems to display these problems, regardless of the Radio. If I roll back to the official T-Mobile Rom (WM5) or Orange Rom (WM5) my problems disappear

HA!
Finally some usefull information. But very strange, buying a very expensive devise, but not being able to make a proper phonecall with it....
a.

YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I installed Radio 1.09 and so far sooooooooooo good!!!! None of the issues i mentioned, it works like a charm!!!
The only noticable issue i've found a couple times is, the gprs automatically disconnects once in a while, but i can ask it to reconnect and it does so without a fuss! Wowwwweeee!!!!
A BIGGG thanks to Arvind09 for this!!!!
So guys, i guess you got to try all radio roms and find which one works best for you, no other go as i see it
Cheers!
San

OH CRAP!!!!!!!!! I SPOKE TOOOOO SOON
Woke up early morning and the damn things crapped again :-/
The sobbing continues

If you tried different Radio Version and still does not work, it is time you change a service provider, provided you are sure that your hardware never had problems before.
Bangalore is a big city, coverage should be good, could it be the part of area you are in has bad coverage, try asking you friends about service provider other than your current one in that particular area.
If changing provider still does not work, make a complaint to the providers, it nothing improves, its time you need to move somewhere else.

I have the same issue when I keep the Radio Band in Auto mode (GSM/3G) I change my phone to GSM and it is better.

Ye, I did the same too. only switch manually to 3G when needed. I almost forgot about this point.
Furthermore, GSM mode makes the battery last more days than 3G mode.

encountered the same probs, 4 me radio 1.12 is the most stable one (I believe it's an exotic/not commonly used version)

I have been struggeling with this since the first WM6 Pre-release ROM came out on this forum. Tried all the radio ROMs available, without succes. As said, the only ROM that does not suffer from this, is the latest WM5 ROM.

dreamtheater39 said:
OH CRAP!!!!!!!!! I SPOKE TOOOOO SOON
Woke up early morning and the damn things crapped again :-/
The sobbing continues
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Ok could you tell me which provider are subscribed to? I use Airtel and hutch on both my pocket pc(universal and orbit)Ive noticed that airtel tends to loose its signal whereas hutch has never given me a problem.for this reason i use hutch on the Uni,though i cannot say that im very happy with their service,they are any day much better tha Airtel and Idea both.Also try to change the rom and see if the problem still persists.

Missing Calls after Mobile 6 Upgrade

Hello everyone,
Since I upgraded my ROM to Mobile 6, I have been missing a lot of calls. A lot of the time the phone does not ring and even if a voicemail is left, unless the phone rang, I am not notified of the voicemail. It’s getting a bit annoying now since I am missing about 40% of my calls. Has anyone else run into this issue and if so, do you know the fix? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

risingeagle said:
Hello everyone,
Since I upgraded my ROM to Mobile 6, I have been missing a lot of calls. A lot of the time the phone does not ring and even if a voicemail is left, unless the phone rang, I am not notified of the voicemail. It’s getting a bit annoying now since I am missing about 40% of my calls. Has anyone else run into this issue and if so, do you know the fix? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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How much did you read up on WM6 before you upgraded to it? It's a known issue that alot of people have had to go back to 2.19 radio rom due to missed calls or apply the mrfrazzz radio rom fix (which is in the 1st message of the thread in my signature)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312834
is the post about all our trials and tribulations with WM6 and Cingular (AT&T)
the last couple pages seem to have hit on a common issue. the ROM version

When in doubt go with the 2.19.11 UK Radio rom. If you use anybody other than Cingular the Cab fix likely won't work. I tried it with the change in the value that supposably worked for T-Mobile but it caused me to not be able to get connected at all. So it's really trial and error. Just try all the radio versions till you find one that works for you. Only reason im not using 2.19 is that in my area 2.40 works flawlessly and gives me better signal at work.
Shane

Hallis said:
When in doubt go with the 2.19.11 UK Radio rom. If you use anybody other than Cingular the Cab fix likely won't work. I tried it with the change in the value that supposably worked for T-Mobile but it caused me to not be able to get connected at all. So it's really trial and error. Just try all the radio versions till you find one that works for you. Only reason im not using 2.19 is that in my area 2.40 works flawlessly and gives me better signal at work.
Shane
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Well I'm on Tmobile and the mrfrazzz fix corrected the issues I was having...

Tmobile UK Radio Rom 1.27.12.17 any good?

Im currently using 1.27.12.11 radio rom - i find that it looses signal quite a lot has anyone on tmobile had any experience of using 1.27.12.17 and does it improve signal and battery life?

hey i would have to say that i get a poor signal around my house...had the mda vario..and wherever i am in my house i get full reception with that
as for battery life i have no idea jus yet...

so .17 is definately better for reception!

Where can I get that radio ROM JPHCCFC? I get bery poor T-Mopbile reception in my house.
Also does burning it wipe all settings and stuff on the phone (sorry, newbie)

mega_jamie said:
Where can I get that radio ROM JPHCCFC? I get bery poor T-Mopbile reception in my house.
Also does burning it wipe all settings and stuff on the phone (sorry, newbie)
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get it here - wont overwrite your settings but you need to reed the instructions on upgrading
ftp://xda:[email protected]_CustomRUU.rar

JPHCCFC said:
get it here - wont overwrite your settings but you need to reed the instructions on upgrading
ftp://xda:[email protected]_CustomRUU.rar
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the link didnt work for me...am i doing something wrong?

I'm having horrible problems with my vario3! People can't even call me, says that i'm unavailable... sometimes it won't send text messages, I can't make calls on it!
I'm going to send it back and see if they can fix it. My second vario so far.... first one kept on freezing.
Has anyone got the full t-mobile rom? I want to flash my phone to see if that helps but I want to be able to get back to factory t-mobile rom if I need to send it back for warranty.

Can someone post the link in its entirity please?
The link shown is not working
Many Thanks,

Aeroadster said:
Can someone post the link in its entirity please?
The link shown is not working
Many Thanks,
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ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Kaiser/Radio/KAIS_Radio_Only_1.27.12.17_CustomRUU.rar
Try that.

The thing I've most noticed about this radio stack is the improvement to BlueTooth. It seems to hold onto 3g/hsdpa signals better as well.

the_ape said:
The thing I've most noticed about this radio stack is the improvement to BlueTooth. It seems to hold onto 3g/hsdpa signals better as well.
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But radio ROM isn't related to BT or Wifi functions...
Anyone have tried this Radio ROM and can post compared results with the 1.27.12.11 about 3G coverage and battery consumption?
Thanks.

Hmm interesting might have to try this radio ROM myself... anyone else tried it and noticed better signal/HSDPA signal etc?

still getting poor radio with .11 anyone tried .17 lately??

JPHCCFC said:
still getting poor radio with .11 anyone tried .17 lately??
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I install this ROM and found no major problems till now, everything looks the same as vers. .11 only I had 1 problem with .11 I must always click a few times on the send button with a incoming call before it connect now only 1 puss and it takes the call

Installing this radio now, report very soon... bye

No any problem reveald during the new radio installation.
Phone restarting normal, no problem.
Installed on no branded Htc Italian phone.
Test in progress for duration life battery and antenna function, bye

First impression 3G signal are more stable(first only one line power) at this moment same position have a maximus power, no disconnession and work very good, and more better reception.
For battery report, wait same day of use.
Bye

Same impressions as previous post, stable, signal seems to be more powerful, for battery you have to wait
Bye and tnx u all !!!

As per the other replies, I too am experiencing better hold on signal.
I also note that the radio seems to update loss of signal faster than .11
(Installed on an unbranded HTC TyTN II - UK)

Yes, another good report....

Nobody there...

Hello everyone,
I have the latest AT&T 6.1 ROM, downloaded from the HTC site for the Tilt. Here's a couple of problems that I have, that I can't get search results for.
1. VERY often, when a person calls me and I answer, I can't hear anyone on the other end! The same results when I make an outbound call as well. The device says that I'm connected to the other party, but I can't hear that.
2. When I AM actively connected, VERY often my bluetooth headset will just DECIDE to disconnect! Now, the DEVICE is still connected, but I have to either quickly put it to my ear to not miss what the other party is saying, or, I've noticed that if I push the multifunction button on the earpiece (Jawbone), it will reconnect.
Any help with these two issues would be appreciated. This has ONLY begun since I've installed the newest AT&T 6.1 ROM, which is supposed to be for the Tilt... which I have.
I'm REALLY frustrated...

Maybe try the original 6.0 rom and see if it still happens. If it does, and your phone is under a year, I would definitely send your phone in for warranty.
Jason

i have 3 words for you,
1-radio
2-radio
3-radio..................
try changing your radio and see if the problem persists, but i smell a radio problem behind all of this

maiahsdad said:
Hello everyone,
I have the latest AT&T 6.1 ROM, downloaded from the HTC site for the Tilt. Here's a couple of problems that I have, that I can't get search results for.
1. VERY often, when a person calls me and I answer, I can't hear anyone on the other end! The same results when I make an outbound call as well. The device says that I'm connected to the other party, but I can't hear that.
2. When I AM actively connected, VERY often my bluetooth headset will just DECIDE to disconnect! Now, the DEVICE is still connected, but I have to either quickly put it to my ear to not miss what the other party is saying, or, I've noticed that if I push the multifunction button on the earpiece (Jawbone), it will reconnect.
Any help with these two issues would be appreciated. This has ONLY begun since I've installed the newest AT&T 6.1 ROM, which is supposed to be for the Tilt... which I have.
I'm REALLY frustrated...
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did you do a hard reset? if not try that and see if that helps

Without a doubt an issue with your radio version. I had the same issues when I switched from WM6 to 6.1 - turned out my radio only worked w/ version 6 and caused my phone to only work half of the time.

SilverVenom said:
Without a doubt an issue with your radio version. I had the same issues when I switched from WM6 to 6.1 - turned out my radio only worked w/ version 6 and caused my phone to only work half of the time.
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You are Switching from a 6.0 to 6.1...it probably is a radio issue...just go to the ultimate radio thread in my signature and download a 6.1 radio and try it....it will only take a few seconds

the stock wm6.1 at&t rom that he loaded comes with a functional radio made for that rom so unless he flashed a radio that is for wm6 after he updated then yes its the radio

looks like Radio problem.. but if you install the ATT official rom you have allready one for 6.1 windows.. Like already say MSD24200
but try one from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
i prefer the 1.65.24.36 NIKI Radio
you must select one of 1.65.xx.xx or 1.70.xx.xx

Comm Manager?
b16b said:
looks like Radio problem.. but if you install the ATT official rom you have allready one for 6.1 windows.. Like already say MSD24200
but try one from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
i prefer the 1.65.24.36 NIKI Radio
you must select one of 1.65.xx.xx or 1.70.xx.xx
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Bob,
I using the eOS 4.888 ROM on AT&T and I have the "silent call" issue too. It seems to have come up only in the past month or so. I'm on my 4th radio, currently a Polaris 1.59.42.23. The Polaris Radio seems to make the problem less frequent, but it is still there. My first though was this is an AT&T issue but there is a thread in the Kaiser General section about this, and posts in the Ultimate Radio thread that indicate the issue is occurring outside of the AT&T network as well.
The issue has been blamed on radios, ROM, and bluetooth, but in my experience with it, I'm thinking it might be Comm Manager related, but I don't know enough to know how the Comm Manager interacts with the radio/ROM to really be helpful.
I do know that the person who figures out the answer to this problem will make quite a few folks on this board very happy!!
Jim

Same Issue
I am having the same issue. I have the official 6.1 ROM from HTC on the att tilt. I flashed it on a friday and did not notice issues with not hearing the person on the other end when connected until a few days later. I looked at the ultimate radio thread according to that, I have the correct radio for my rom version:
ROM version: 3.57.502.2 WWE
ROM date: 07/17/08
Radio version: 1.65.21.18
Protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
Could it still be a radio issue? Or something else?

jpcrailjr said:
Bob,
I using the eOS 4.888 ROM on AT&T and I have the "silent call" issue too. It seems to have come up only in the past month or so. I'm on my 4th radio, currently a Polaris 1.59.42.23. The Polaris Radio seems to make the problem less frequent, but it is still there. My first though was this is an AT&T issue but there is a thread in the Kaiser General section about this, and posts in the Ultimate Radio thread that indicate the issue is occurring outside of the AT&T network as well.
The issue has been blamed on radios, ROM, and bluetooth, but in my experience with it, I'm thinking it might be Comm Manager related, but I don't know enough to know how the Comm Manager interacts with the radio/ROM to really be helpful.
I do know that the person who figures out the answer to this problem will make quite a few folks on this board very happy!!
Jim
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It is not Comm mgr related as I have tried several to no avail, Also several 6.1 roms and several radios . No luck.
Hopefully a mod can combine this thread with this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438457 so we can all work on this together.

Can't hear other party......
Did anyone find a solution to this yet? I have flashed all the compatable rabios with the tilt running the official wm6.1 from htc. And I am still making and receiving calls with not being able to hear the other party(as well as them not being able to hear me).
The main function of the tilt is a PHONE!

Hard reset after flash maybe?

kaisernewb said:
Did anyone find a solution to this yet? I have flashed all the compatable rabios with the tilt running the official wm6.1 from htc. And I am still making and receiving calls with not being able to hear the other party(as well as them not being able to hear me).
The main function of the tilt is a PHONE!
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It has to do with 6.1 . We are trying to pool all our information on one thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438457
Nika has reflashed to a 6.0 rom, and that appears to have eliminated the problem.
Again, if a Mod could merge these threads, we could all work togther on this.
Thanks.

kaisernewb said:
Did anyone find a solution to this yet? I have flashed all the compatable rabios with the tilt running the official wm6.1 from htc. And I am still making and receiving calls with not being able to hear the other party(as well as them not being able to hear me).
The main function of the tilt is a PHONE!
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If it is not radio, then it is a connection issue with your USB port. I had this happen to me and frustrated the heck out of me until I discovered that the tether that is inside the USB port on the device was loose, as if it was cracked. I must have done that while jabbing the stylus in it without using my glasses to soft reset. I discovered the issue by accident when the phone was plugged to be charged and i received a phone call. every time i wiggled the phone the conversation sound would get muted or interrupted. I ended up returning the Tilt to AT&T as a defective device and got a refurbished one that works. Test it and let us know.

O2 Xda Atmos problems - Phone, network or ROM?

Hi All,
I am assuming that the Vox is the Xda Atmos under O2's branding (it looks identical minus the much better original styling).
We use these for the majority of our company phones. I am really getting sick of them though and wondered if anyone else who uses one frequently encounters any of the following problems:
- Dropped calls (mid conversation)
- Calls not being received, despite having signal
- Complete loss of GSM signal, despite another phone on the same network having a very good signal
- Random crashing
- Incredibly poor battery life despite the battery being brand new, power settings to max out the battery life and all but GSM connections turned off.
I am getting the above issues on most, if not all, of my Xda Atmos. They are all from O2, and mainly on the O2 network. But as the phones themselves are unlocked, I have also tried them on a variety of other networks with the same results.
I am thinking that it's an issue with the O2 ROM. WinMo smartphone edition cant be that bad can it?
Any input is appreciated, along with your own experiences of the phone.
Thanks.

Yeah, just try another rom, i use wm 6.1 v1.4.

ikke008 said:
Yeah, just try another rom, i use wm 6.1 v1.4.
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you'd try another radio-rom!
the wrong radio causes exactly your problemes!
so just search and try butbe sure you've the devie the raido for if not and you install it anyway you brick your device!

NO do not try Vox stuff on it! It has 3G, a 400MHz processor and a second camera...it's the Wings! http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=413

lol thanks for that.
It was a toss up between the Vox and the Wings - Vox looked closer to it.
Will repost in the Wings forum.

LOL Frahottelman back again as A*s-Saver