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okay... so the time has come to get one of these fantastic things
soo ofcourse im thhinking of geting either the 300 or the 700 but cant decide
the main things i cant decide on is the fact that the screen resolution is better on the 700 compared to 300, but then again would i really notice it that much? another thing is the fact that the 300 dont have gorillaglas, wich makes me think its gonna look like a wreck after two days.
what i like about the 300 is the good price, also i can get it in 3g version, which is practical, but not important for me.
apart from this i think both of them are equally good devices :/ what do i do???
TF300T. The TF700 is too expensive, the tab will run slower because of its resolution (and most of the games cannot run at such resolution), the development for it sucks (at least from what I've been reading). If I could go back in time, I would still buy the TF300T
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I bought the 300 and im.new here. Gorilla glass or not if you drop it you are s
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i dont think i i would drop it att any time... its about being able to drag your finger over the screen without scratching it... i often have nightmares where im back to the early 2000nds with an old **** cellphone and im able t scratch it by looking to hard at it
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Normal corning Glass is still very nice. I come from an x8 with bas glass but its not scartched at all. Maybe its just me im very careful.
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meeeh skeptical
try to not use your finger to touch the screen, just use it the way you should, then you'll be fine, it won't get scratches easily
I've had the 300 for about three months now, and if I'd have to make the decision between the 700 and the 300, I'd probably get the 700. While using ICS, I had the 300 overclocked to 1.5GHz, and the extra couple of hundred megahertz really did make a difference when using the tablet. Now back to stock JB, I find the device a lot more sluggish.
But the number one reason I'd buy the 700 is the display. The DPI on a 10 inch 1280x800 screen is just too low. This is of course a matter of personal preference, but I will never be buying such a low resolution device again.
Of course, would I pay the price they're asking for the 700, after using a 300? No way!
lol no competition, get the tf700. You can price match it at best buy for 347.49. So basically you are paying less for the more powerful tablet. And the comments about it being slow...complete bs. Fastest tablet i have ever owned.
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Also once JB gets here this tablet will be perfect. The 300 got jb and it was clear asus was using it as a beta to refine JB.
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minor competition.....
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lol no competition, get the tf700. You can price match it at best buy for 347.49. So basically you are paying less for the more powerful tablet. And the comments about it being slow...complete bs. Fastest tablet i have ever owned.
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given i find the tf700 to have a sexy screen, pop on over to all the complaints people have with the 700 in there forums, screen lift/boot loop/easy bricking/ bad bleeding/ screen raise "body separates from the screen"/ and some other issues i forget, the boot loop and brick are not software issues, but actually a hardware glitch that sometimes can be hard to fix, due to screen compression on the internal components etc. so think of it that way, the tf300 has an ok screen, no real hardware or software issues, "except on Asus JB OTA"/ and of course its backing isnt so hot but hey, i prefer a working machine over an over priced item that is full of hardware defects.
How is the TF300 after the JB update?
I bought the TF300 pre-JB and returned it as I couldn't handle the repeated "App Not Responding" issues. I have and regularly sync a GMail account, Facebook and Google Reader. Every 5-10 mins the browser would stop responding because something was syncing in the background.
Does this still happen on the TF300 post-JB? I'm ideally looking at the TF700 but I know the I/O isn't improved in the TF700....
Comments on the TF700 performance (with background syncing) would be appreciated too...
Thanks in advance
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How is the TF300 after the JB update?
I bought the TF300 pre-JB and returned it as I couldn't handle the repeated "App Not Responding" issues. I have and regularly sync a GMail account, Facebook and Google Reader. Every 5-10 mins the browser would stop responding because something was syncing in the background.
Does this still happen on the TF300 post-JB? I'm ideally looking at the TF700 but I know the I/O isn't improved in the TF700....
Comments on the TF700 performance (with background syncing) would be appreciated too...
Thanks in advance
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You should have just rooted there was no need to return it. Or even exchanged it cuz i never got that problem when i got mine. i even got my stepson one and he hasn't had that problem either
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I was choosing between this 2. Finally the decision to go for TF300TG, since I want:
- Longer battery life. Very important if I can't find a charging point.
- 3G data. I know I can use my wifi hotspot of my Galaxy Note, but I had extra data SIM for use and prefer the convenient.
- More affordable than TF700. Yes, TF700 is beautiful, but is not within my budget.
- Lastly, I notice community in TF300T is "happier".
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given i find the tf700 to have a sexy screen, pop on over to all the complaints people have with the 700 in there forums, screen lift/boot loop/easy bricking/ bad bleeding/ screen raise "body separates from the screen"/ and some other issues i forget, the boot loop and brick are not software issues, but actually a hardware glitch that sometimes can be hard to fix, due to screen compression on the internal components etc. so think of it that way, the tf300 has an ok screen, no real hardware or software issues, "except on Asus JB OTA"/ and of course its backing isnt so hot but hey, i prefer a working machine over an over priced item that is full of hardware defects.
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.....like i said, i have none of those issues. So the people complaining probably picked up a bad unit. Mine is perfect. No justification for picking up the tf300 over the tf700, unless your into the plastic thing and low res screen... just saying
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lenrek said:
I was choosing between this 2. Finally the decision to go for TF300TG, since I want:
- Longer battery life. Very important if I can't find a charging point.
- 3G data. I know I can use my wifi hotspot of my Galaxy Note, but I had extra data SIM for use and prefer the convenient.
- More affordable than TF700. Yes, TF700 is beautiful, but is not within my budget.
- Lastly, I notice community in TF300T is "happier".
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Ive maxed out my battery life on performance at 16 hours...
The 4g version of our tablet is coming out a week or so
Price match for 347, so cheaper than the tf300
Dont know what threads your looking at, but most of the people on our forums are happy
...Overall, i would say a home run for the 700
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How is the TF300 after the JB update?
I bought the TF300 pre-JB and returned it as I couldn't handle the repeated "App Not Responding" issues. I have and regularly sync a GMail account, Facebook and Google Reader. Every 5-10 mins the browser would stop responding because something was syncing in the background.
Does this still happen on the TF300 post-JB? I'm ideally looking at the TF700 but I know the I/O isn't improved in the TF700....
Comments on the TF700 performance (with background syncing) would be appreciated too...
Thanks in advance
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I rooted mine and install setcpu and autokiller to tweak the system abit. I did not flash custom ROM, just root only. So far, no major issue. I am using TF300TG, so no JB for me. I do occasionally encounter "App Not Responding", but not until a point I can't tolerate it.
Thanks all. How is performance when updating apps as well? I'm reading good thing about Zeus ROM but is the i/O really improved or is it bench hacks?
I have a cheap Chinese tab and it matches the i/O of the infinity but still lags when syncing too (quadrant 4000 on i/O, antutu 800 i/o)
Cheers
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Thanks all. How is performance when updating apps as well? I'm reading good thing about Zeus ROM but is the i/O really improved or is it bench hacks?
I have a cheap Chinese tab and it matches the i/O of the infinity but still lags when syncing too (quadrant 4000 on i/O, antutu 800 i/o)
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Well depends. On the tf700 zues is flawless. Honestly there is no comparison between these two tablet. The tf700 if FAR superior to the tf300.
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Cheers for your input! Are you running Zeus now? Is it a big improvement?
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Cheers for your input! Are you running Zeus now? Is it a big improvement?
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Massive improvement. The tf700 was beast without zues. Now....zomg
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Hi guys
Been thinking about buying a tablet for a long time. I have had extensive experience with the motorolla XOOM and a lenovo *forget the name*
Both were just not right.. They could not achieve what I wanted to achieve and the xoom was close but with no USB port to attach camera etc it just isnt right for my use.
I have been using android for a very long time and have thrown many custom roms on my phones etc
I plan to develop some apps, but most importantly I see the device being capable for travelling. Backing up my photos from my camera, taking movies with me for the plane etc.
A must is also the capability to browse Samba shares. I know android file manager apps have improved significantly to improve this.
As such, would you buy the device again? Has it got good developer community support as I am expecting that actual vendor support warranty is a joke like all devices.
Does the stock rom have a lot of crap on it? I currently run CM9 on my phone so i am guesing the answer will be yes. Could this potentially replace the notebook at home with the keyboard dock?
Thanks
if you would have asked me a month ago, i would have said no. But after unlocking, rooting, installing Cleanrom and overclocking, this device is a beast. I had an issue recently that made me want to get rid of it, but i came to find out it was app related. Its a great device. A lot of people have had issues with it, and a lot have it working fantastic. With whats available now, even including the new Google 10, i would recommend this device over everything available.
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if you would have asked me a month ago, i would have said no. But after unlocking, rooting, installing Cleanrom and overclocking, this device is a beast. I had an issue recently that made me want to get rid of it, but i came to find out it was app related. Its a great device. A lot of people have had issues with it, and a lot have it working fantastic. With whats available now, even including the new Google 10, i would recommend this device over everything available.
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Right on!
Took 86 words right from my mouth...
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timrock said:
if you would have asked me a month ago, i would have said no. But after unlocking, rooting, installing Cleanrom and overclocking, this device is a beast. I had an issue recently that made me want to get rid of it, but i came to find out it was app related. Its a great device. A lot of people have had issues with it, and a lot have it working fantastic. With whats available now, even including the new Google 10, i would recommend this device over everything available.
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Ditto. I've used it for movies on planes, output to a TV to watch a movie at a friend's house, and instant video review from a GoPro with the SD slot on the keyboard. Have used it to get files into flash drives via the USB as well. The keyboard also makes it perfect for RDP to my server, wherever I might be. I came from a Prime with serious antenna interference that prevented use through one wall at home, and that has not been an issue on my Infinity (though I still get a slight reduction in Wifi throughput while connected to Bluetooth). My biggest gripe until I unlocked was the interface speed, and Cleanrom made it feel like a whole new device; feels like my Galaxy Nexus.
This is my portable computer now; my trusty Thinkpad hasn't been touched since I got my Infinity.
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This device is very quick with Clean rom 2.3 and overclocked kernal. Before unlocking I was a little skeptical however once I unlocked the device has been great! If I was you I would go to best buy and buy it, test it out, then if you dont like it then return it before the 30 day warranty. Just keep it locked if you go that route. It doesnt use its full potential that way but atleast you will get a taste of this goodness. Stock Jelly Bean honestly wasnt that bad either just not as quick as Clean rom.
I also think it can replace a netbook maybe not a notebook like higher end notebook or anything. If you do a lot of game playing on a higher end notebook then its not the same however if you just browse the net then this is perfect for you and some.
Hi,
first of all: Sorry for my bad english. I come from germany.
I use this device for university, and i think i wouldn't buy it now, after using it for approx. 3 months. The stock browser is very slow. Even my Galaxy S2 with stock rom was better. Sometimes i don't believe that there's a quad core inside. It feels to slow. Pherhaps i also have to test a custom rom, but i don't want to loose guarantee.
The Infinity combinated with dock is really great to notice something very quickly. First I tried with an iPad in university and this was horrible. I sold it after 3 weeks. The Infinity is defintly better, but not what i expected to become. I hope that further Software Updates will fix this.
I don't want to be only negative: The micro HDMI is great. I used it several times. Also the possibility to plug in an usb - stick, or a micro sd card is very useful. The quality of the display is also very fine. Apps like dolphin browser, tune in radio ... are working very well. The killer feature against Apples iPad is the flash plattform.
If i have to say it in one sentence: It's to slow and has to much bugs for it's high price (in Germany it's 700€ ~ 905$)
No I wouldn't. Even with CleanROM and other tweaks, all sdcard related operations are too slow. App opening and closing animations are not smooth. Project Butter doesn't work, even on official CM10. Battery life is not good. I get max 5 hours of movie watching time. My old Xoom would give me 8-9 hours. In short, I'm not happy with the Infinity and I wish I'd have gone for Galaxy Note 10.1.
I would 100% absolutely buy the TF700 again. It's a great device, especially if you install a custom ROM (CleanROM *highly* recommended) as well as Clemsyn's OC kernel. Stock is not horrible, but CleanROM/Clemsyn combination is simply amazing. Makes the device crazy fast!
Of course, it's not a perfect device (there is no such thing), but it's by far the most versatile (keyboard dock, memory card slots, HDMI-out, etc), best looking (brushed aluminum), best performing, thinnest, lightest 10" Android tablet available right now.
The worst aspect of this tablet is the (lack of) quality control @ Asus. I would not recommend purchasing the tablet via mail order because of this. I would highly recommend that you purchase at Best Buy, so that you can exchange it if needed (in case you have a hardware issue). Best Buy has an excellent return policy.
I'd also recommend that you spend the extra $87 (with coupon) and purchase a 2-year Square Trade Accidental Coverage warranty. This way, even if you accidentally step on the device and break it, you are covered. Or, if you brick it while trying to install custom ROM's or something - you are covered. It gives you complete peace of mind for 2 years (at which point, you'll probably be upgrading again anyway).
Hope that helps you make your decision!
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no.
cleanROM + kernals and all that developer goodness is awesome, but ASUS should have gotten their product right before releasing it. build quality issues, crappy I/O, yada yada. that said, the IDEA of a tablet with these specs is awesome, and the potential was great. it's just implementation fail.
curious abt the Nexus 10. the resolution on that thing is ridiculous, wondering how the pixel-pushing is going to fare with that new SoC.
No... It's a lazy and very slow so I don't like it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDtOqCQ_I4Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Warranty invalidation for unlocking the bootloader is the only reason I wouldn't recommend it.
Yes I would, CleanRom has transformed this tablet into a beast and I have no regrets. Those kicking themselves for not getting an N10 will always be sore because technology isn't gonna stop improving just so you can feel better about your purchase. The Infinity has become my daily driver for all things related to the internet and gaming on the couch.
Yes I would, absolutely.
Sometimes, I'm thinking about the GNote 10.1, for example when I need to draw a graph on a PDF, but at the end it's very rare that I need it, my keyboard is so usefull : the battery, the keyboard itself, and to keep the tablet in a right angle in the bed, on the desk, during conferences with small places...
I had no issue with mine. Not at all, and I have locked bootloader (for now).
The best would be TF700 1080p screen with GNote 10.1 PLS technology (stylus and pressure), and Samsung multitasking-multiwindows system when it will be smooth.
I knew that it was overpriced and already outdated when I bought it, but I was too curious how it works with the dock, and the dock really makes it much more useful than a tablet alone (I had a TF101 without dock before).
1 GB RAM and the slow internal storage are not adequate for a high end tablet. And the software is very unstable and feels half-baked compared to a Linux or Windows desktop - even the Play store app crashed in the stock ROM (out of memory exception).
Do I regret that I bought it? No, money was not an issue, it is a nice toy and the screen is great. Would I buy it again? No. Let's see what 2013 brings.
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No I wouldn't. Even with CleanROM and other tweaks, all sdcard related operations are too slow. App opening and closing animations are not smooth. Project Butter doesn't work, even on official CM10. Battery life is not good. I get max 5 hours of movie watching time. My old Xoom would give me 8-9 hours. In short, I'm not happy with the Infinity and I wish I'd have gone for Galaxy Note 10.1.
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You must have a bad one. Mine is super smooth and fast!
So my answer is YES! Knowing what I know now, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. This thing is truly a beast. I never intentionally leave any of my devices stock...custom roms and kernels give you so much more. A Square Deal warranty is pretty cheap and gives great protection, so who cares about voiding the ASUS warranty?
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As such, would you buy the device again? Has it got good developer community support as I am expecting that actual vendor support warranty is a joke like all devices.
Does the stock rom have a lot of crap on it? I currently run CM9 on my phone so i am guesing the answer will be yes. Could this potentially replace the notebook at home with the keyboard dock?
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Yes, for sure I would.
It has Dev support and just started getting CM10 nightlies. Check out the Dev forum for more.
I think the stock ROM has some pretty useful tools. Splashtop, Asus cloud storage and even a tool for DNLA although MediaHouse is still the best for DNLA. I don't use the magazine, newspaper and book apps that came with it, but I guess they're useful for someone using them. The only real inclusion in the stock ROM that troubles some people is the stuff relating to the Asus Device Tracker, but you can search and read for more about that. I'm not worried about that given I have a SquareTrade warranty. So I'd get coverage regardless.
Yes, it can replace a notebook when you consider Splashtop. And if all you do is view media, read mail, edit a few files, browse the web and play games, yea it's all you need. If you need desktop specific applications, you can use them through Splashtop, WiFi connected desktop/laptop required .
No. You shouldn't have to root your device and install a custom OS to get decent performance out of a tablet. I am ok with it now that I have done these things, but the stock performance is unacceptable. I would definitely go with a different tablet if I had the choice.
If the stock performance had been good and custom OS's made the performance EVEN BETTER that would be ok in my book.
Hi all,
I didn't want to make yet another thread about should i buy blah blah blah.
please don't reply if you have had a sour experience with your unit as i think the reply will not be a genuine one.
I have looked at this tablet in local stores and tried some basic games and they run fine to me.
However i currently have a acer a510 1280x 800 res 1.3 tegra chip.
I have found all games from asphalt 7/6 nova 3 (even though not compatable) to run fine and smooth on my lower performance tegra tab.
My use will be gaming movies and also want the more laptop experience to respond to online questions while on the go.
Reading through the forum i see people complaining about slow fps and slow internal storage.
however the specs of the aussie version of this tab specifies ssd memory?
So my question is how do you perceive slow and this on all tabs or just some peoples. I.e. some one complaining about it being slow would get the same speed benchmark as some one who perceives it as being fine?
Also do you think it is more a optimization issue for games fps or the fact the res is just that much more? I know alot of games still have issues with tegra games and really for such a powerful company and chipset it really should get more attention than it is.
is the 1gb of ram a bottle neck?
I ask this because i have 1gb of ram on the a510 and have not had any specific issues running low on memory however i can see how a higher res "may require more ram" to run smooth.
I agree with many posts that this tablet really should be 1.5gb or 2gb of ram.
I was even surprised to see the upcoming lte model still only has 1gb of ram.
So i'm kind of stuck on if i should buy it or wait for the next gen hopefully mid next year.
Only the sometimes sluggish IO was a surprise, and not that big a deal to me. Otherwise, I knew the weaknesses when I bought it.
If 'the newest thing' is what you want, then yeah, you'll always be unhappy with what you've got. But if what you want is a little more specific and based on practicality, you can get a lot of life out of a good device, and the Infinity is a good device. I've had my TP2 for 3 years next month. I have no plans to upgrade that, and no device currently exists that I'd even consider to be an upgrade. I know what I want.
malos1984 said:
Hi all,
I didn't want to make yet another thread about should i buy blah blah blah.
please don't reply if you have had a sour experience with your unit as i think the reply will not be a genuine one.
I have looked at this tablet in local stores and tried some basic games and they run fine to me.
However i currently have a acer a510 1280x 800 res 1.3 tegra chip.
I have found all games from asphalt 7/6 nova 3 (even though not compatable) to run fine and smooth on my lower performance tegra tab.
My use will be gaming movies and also want the more laptop experience to respond to online questions while on the go.
Reading through the forum i see people complaining about slow fps and slow internal storage.
however the specs of the aussie version of this tab specifies ssd memory?
So my question is how do you perceive slow and this on all tabs or just some peoples. I.e. some one complaining about it being slow would get the same speed benchmark as some one who perceives it as being fine?
Also do you think it is more a optimization issue for games fps or the fact the res is just that much more? I know alot of games still have issues with tegra games and really for such a powerful company and chipset it really should get more attention than it is.
is the 1gb of ram a bottle neck?
I ask this because i have 1gb of ram on the a510 and have not had any specific issues running low on memory however i can see how a higher res "may require more ram" to run smooth.
I agree with many posts that this tablet really should be 1.5gb or 2gb of ram.
I was even surprised to see the upcoming lte model still only has 1gb of ram.
So i'm kind of stuck on if i should buy it or wait for the next gen hopefully mid next year.
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IMO I don't think this tablet would be the best for gaming until...when or if the Android game app market catches up to the hardware.
My wife plays the low end common games on this tab no troubles there.
I used to play Max Payne and Need for speed, those haven't been running too well lately for me.
The Tegra3 games are problematic for some and there isn't a large selection at this time.
Viewing movies in HD is fine for me...can't speak for others however.
Bottom line:
As the tablet stands now, I wouldn't invest the money to game on the Infinity if your Acer plays the intense games to your liking.
Best of luck with the tablet search.
jim
Guys I'm in a bit of a dilemma. I wanted to buy a 10" used tablet for sometime now and I'm confused again now. I was extremely close to getting a Transformer TF101 as it was affordable and fit my needs but I'm a little worried about getting a tablet with an older screen res. Now, I don't care for performance and software upgrades that much but I feel a screen resolution upgrade is sufficient for me to situp and take notice.
I've heard a lot about the newer phones having pointlessly high PPI numbers. But can anyone tell me if the extra PPI on the newer large 10" tablets - TF700T, A700, etc make a massive difference and justify its price? I'm basically looking for input from people who have used a 10" 1280x800 tablet and then upgraded to a 10" 1920x1200 tablet
Eg.
Iconia A500/A510>A700
TF101/TF201>TF700T
Nexus 7>Nexus 10
My main tablet usage will be movies, reading ebooks and occasional web browsing. I suppose it should also be mentioned that I can barely afford the A700 let alone the TF700, but if the difference is large enough then I will consider spending more and getting a FHD tablet.
During Christmas my grandmother got a tf300 and I got a tf700. I can tell you the screen on the tf700 seems much clearer then the screen on the tf300. As for the Nexus 7, It is full res like the Nexus 10 so you wont notice any difference there other than the big screen. I havent used any other tablets though.
Tylor
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My mum owns a Galaxy Tab 2 (1280x800), and I own a TF700 (1920x1200).
The difference in clarity, crispness, contrast and sharpness is staggering. The G2 display looks horrendously blurry and vague next to the TF700 one.
I very much prefer the HD res over the lower one.
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My mum owns a Galaxy Tab 2 (1280x800), and I own a TF700 (1920x1200).
The difference in clarity, crispness, contrast and sharpness is staggering. The G2 display looks horrendously blurry and vague next to the TF700 one.
I very much prefer the HD res over the lower one.
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Agreed. Even with the lag issues, that screen easily makes it worth it. I havent used my grandma's tf700 much but you can tell the difference easily.
Tylor
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Father-in-law has a Galaxy Tab with 1280something longest edge, and the TF700 screen's sharpness is so much higher that I've probaby been spoiled for life. I do a lot of (technical) e-book reading as well, and graphs and (photographic) illustrations are so much clearer on the 700 compared to the rest... I'll never go back voluntarily.
Nothing beats having someone peek over to see what you're reading and then opening up some forensic pathology e-book, prefereably somewhere in the midst of brain removal during autopsy. Sternum removal does the trick brilliantly, as well. I actually bookmarked some passages that most people seem to find utterly offensive.
Yes, I am *that* kind of guy. ROFLOL!
EDIT: Oh, and er... FullHD cinematics on the train commute... Gotta love that!
Thank you so much for the feedback guys. You'll be surprised how little information there is on the worthyness of FHD screens on 10" tablets. That said, do you guys really that clarity is worth it? My budget is a depressing 200$ and with that I was more than satisfied if I could get a TF101 but in a techno world like this, I'd hate to be left behind with a low res screen when newer tablets are out with more detailed screens.
Basically I can get used TF101s and Iconia A500s for 200$ easy (I don't mind Tegra 2). But if the detail is worth it, I'll try collecting 350$s+ and getting an Iconia A700 and if more were possible then maybe a TF700 or Nexus 10.
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Thank you so much for the feedback guys. You'll be surprised how little information there is on the worthyness of FHD screens on 10" tablets. That said, do you guys really that clarity is worth it? My budget is a depressing 200$ and with that I was more than satisfied if I could get a TF101 but in a techno world like this, I'd hate to be left behind with a low res screen when newer tablets are out with more detailed screens.
Basically I can get used TF101s and Iconia A500s for 200$ easy (I don't mind Tegra 2). But if the detail is worth it, I'll try collecting 350$s+ and getting an Iconia A700 and if more were possible then maybe a TF700 or Nexus 10.
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Have you considered the Kindle Fire HD ?
$269.00 USD really sharp screen 1920x1200 resolution at 254 ppi ...way better sound output than the Infinity.
It's 8.9 yet I don't see a huge difference in the screens when watching TV on it. (wife has one)
I had the Acer A700...loved it.
Returned it to Amazon after 30 days because overheating (normal use not modified) damaged it.
Thats OK said:
Have you considered the Kindle Fire HD ?
$269.00 USD really sharp screen 1920x1200 resolution at 254 ppi ...way better sound output than the Infinity.
It's 8.9 yet I don't see a huge difference in the screens when watching TV on it. (wife has one)
I had the Acer A700...loved it.
Returned it to Amazon after 30 days because overheating (normal use not modified) damaged it.
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Yeah I've looked at the Kindle Fire HD 8.9 and Nook HD+, they have pretty good hardware specs but they both have some shortcoming or the other. For starters, both of these tabs are locked down. The Fire HD has slightly better dev support (CM10.1), but it costs more and doesn't have expandable storage. While the Nook has an SD card slot and is cheaper but doesn't have great dev support and also looks a bit retarded. I've been researching the A700 too. Heard about its issues and apparently most of its been fixed in its JB update.
I guess I'll just have to wait for FHD tablets to become more affordable or settle for a Nook/Fire HD
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Yeah I've looked at the Kindle Fire HD 8.9 and Nook HD+, they have pretty good hardware specs but they both have some shortcoming or the other. For starters, both of these tabs are locked down. The Fire HD has slightly better dev support (CM10.1), but it costs more and doesn't have expandable storage. While the Nook has an SD card slot and is cheaper but doesn't have great dev support and also looks a bit retarded. I've been researching the A700 too. Heard about its issues and apparently most of its been fixed in its JB update.
I guess I'll just have to wait for FHD tablets to become more affordable or settle for a Nook/Fire HD
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The only problem I see with those two would be that each uses its own app store, unless its been change, which will limit you on many apps. But by my guess with cyanogen it will install Play Store but I am not sure. I would research that. If you can get play store on it then it would be the one to go for. As you said though the downside it no expandable storage, but when a friend had a kindle I think the biggest downside was you were forced to use amazon app store. Plus storage can always be freed up and such, once you want a movie once you more then likely will not watch it again.
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Thank you so much for the feedback guys. You'll be surprised how little information there is on the worthyness of FHD screens on 10" tablets. That said, do you guys really that clarity is worth it? My budget is a depressing 200$ and with that I was more than satisfied if I could get a TF101 but in a techno world like this, I'd hate to be left behind with a low res screen when newer tablets are out with more detailed screens.
Basically I can get used TF101s and Iconia A500s for 200$ easy (I don't mind Tegra 2). But if the detail is worth it, I'll try collecting 350$s+ and getting an Iconia A700 and if more were possible then maybe a TF700 or Nexus 10.
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If you're in a country that sells the Nexus 10, you should definitely have a look at that.
It's much cheaper than the infinity and has an even better screen.
It all depends on how important you think screen quality is.
I like super bright and crisp displays, but it you prefer absolute smoothness, you shouldn't look into the tf700, unless you're into rooting, unlocking, etc.
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The only problem I see with those two would be that each uses its own app store, unless its been change, which will limit you on many apps. But by my guess with cyanogen it will install Play Store but I am not sure. I would research that. If you can get play store on it then it would be the one to go for. As you said though the downside it no expandable storage, but when a friend had a kindle I think the biggest downside was you were forced to use amazon app store. Plus storage can always be freed up and such, once you want a movie once you more then likely will not watch it again.
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They're both fully locked down but they can be rooted and from there the Play Store can be installed solving the apps problem. But I would still like a vanilla Android experience and I don't see that happening until both these tablets have a stable CM10.1 which is still wip. No biggie about storage but I'd hate to be restricted to just 16gb especially with 4k around the corner.
omg I just realised what a horrible consumer I am. I have no money but yet want the best and most future proof product for myself hahaha.
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If you're in a country that sells the Nexus 10, you should definitely have a look at that.
It's much cheaper than the infinity and has an even better screen.
It all depends on how important you think screen quality is.
I like super bright and crisp displays, but it you prefer absolute smoothness, you shouldn't look into the tf700, unless you're into rooting, unlocking, etc.
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No, I'm from India and the Nexus 10 isn't available here and even if it were it would be at a premium thanks to our governments fantastic custom duties.
Hmmm I'm not that into screens and was all set to get a TF101 but now with HD screens being the new feature to go with tablets, I wanted to know if the detail between the screens was large enough between them for me to justify spending double for them (200$ for TF101 used, 400$ for TF700T used).
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They're both fully locked down but they can be rooted and from there the Play Store can be installed solving the apps problem. But I would still like a vanilla Android experience and I don't see that happening until both these tablets have a stable CM10.1 which is still wip. No biggie about storage but I'd hate to be restricted to just 16gb especially with 4k around the corner.
omg I just realised what a horrible consumer I am. I have no money but yet want the best and most future proof product for myself hahaha.
No, I'm from India and the Nexus 10 isn't available here and even if it were it would be at a premium thanks to our governments fantastic custom duties.
Hmmm I'm not that into screens and was all set to get a TF101 but now with HD screens being the new feature to go with tablets, I wanted to know if the detail between the screens was large enough between them for me to justify spending double for them (200$ for TF101 used, 400$ for TF700T used).
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And how about a TF201 used?
Primes have good displays but are now more than 1,5 years "old" so I guess you'll be able to find that as some sort of compromise.
Mind that you will need to unlock it, because if not, it's a slow device (just like the tf700 before unlocking )
^ And don't forget the WiFi and GPS issues on the TF201....
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And how about a TF201 used?
Primes have good displays but are now more than 1,5 years "old" so I guess you'll be able to find that as some sort of compromise.
Mind that you will need to unlock it, because if not, it's a slow device (just like the tf700 before unlocking )
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Well, that would be 50$ over the TF101 and all it has is more horsepower and battery life (which I do not care so much for). And as shadowlea said, it would come with Wifi & GPS problems in tow.
RD274 said:
Well, that would be 50$ over the TF101 and all it has is more horsepower and battery life (which I do not care so much for). And as shadowlea said, it would come with Wifi & GPS problems in tow.
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In all honesty, I have the 201 too, and unless you're really on the edge of your wifi range, it shouldn't be much of an issue.
As for GPS, who cares about gps on a tablet? I have mine turned off by default
true but I don't want the premium hardware that the Prime has.
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As for GPS, who cares about gps on a tablet? I have mine turned off by default
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I do. I use my tab to navigate across Europe.
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To be honest, I had (and recently sold) a TF101 + keyboard dock and when running the right OS version, it was an almost-perfect device! It was built well and performed well. I had more problems with my TF700 (of course, CleanROM helped there) than I did with my TF101.
TF201 had wifi and gps reception issues as has already been mentioned as well - something to consider. wifi is pretty integral to the normal use of these products - you don't want poor-performing wifi to reduce the overall performance and usability of the entire device.
Like I said, TF101 was a great device and you can get them cheap - I will still consider one...
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I do. I use my tab to navigate across Europe.
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On your broom?
OK, second post heckling you. Sorry.
Begone, you demons!
</Gandalf voice>
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On your broom?
OK, second post heckling you. Sorry.
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A broom! Well now!
Any self respecting witch uses a Dyson these days.
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Hey there,
I'm planning on getting a new 10 inch tab and im very interested in the google nexus 10. However im also considering the asus infinity tf700, i personally prefer the n10, but i've read of it's various issues. can anyone give me some tips?? much appreciated.
Is the file transfer from pc to the n10 slow??
thx
yhchow said:
Hey there,
I'm planning on getting a new 10 inch tab and im very interested in the google nexus 10. However im also considering the asus infinity tf700, i personally prefer the n10, but i've read of it's various issues. can anyone give me some tips?? much appreciated.
Is the file transfer from pc to the n10 slow??
thx
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I dont know about the Nexus 7 much, but I have a Nexus 7 and expect them to be very similar to the NExus 10.
Personally, the tf700 has had a huge increase in speed with 4.2.1. But if you are wanting it to be a gaming tablet more than a typing/work station/everyday tablet, then I would go with the Nexus 10. The GPU on the TF700 is not build to run games on a full HD screen like the one the Nexus 10 has. It is your opinion but I prefer the tf700 because of the keyboard and extra battery, makes it totally worth it. Writing up papers, even this, would be almost painful on the nexus 10 in my opinion, I hate touch screen keyboards .
In the end it is your choice and what you want to use it for. Personally I think the tf700 is the best out there, but not the top for gaming. Also, I am unlocked with CromiX so mine is faster than stock by far.
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I dont know about the Nexus 7 much, but I have a Nexus 7 and expect them to be very similar to the NExus 10.
Personally, the tf700 has had a huge increase in speed with 4.2.1. But if you are wanting it to be a gaming tablet more than a typing/work station/everyday tablet, then I would go with the Nexus 10. The GPU on the TF700 is not build to run games on a full HD screen like the one the Nexus 10 has. It is your opinion but I prefer the tf700 because of the keyboard and extra battery, makes it totally worth it. Writing up papers, even this, would be almost painful on the nexus 10 in my opinion, I hate touch screen keyboards .
In the end it is your choice and what you want to use it for. Personally I think the tf700 is the best out there, but not the top for gaming. Also, I am unlocked with CromiX so mine is faster than stock by far.
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Thanks for the quick response.
^^
It depends on what you need from a tablet and what you plan to do with it. I can't speak for you, but I can tell you what it was for me.
The Nexus 10 had 4 main disadvantages in regards to the TF700 that were dealbreakers:
- No MicroSD slot.
- No dock: With it comes a USB port, SD slot, keyboard and extra battery.
- Less battery life (because of the TF700's extended dock battery.)
- Lower screen brightness.
Frankly the MiscroSD alone was enough to persuade me over. 128GB of additional space is quite a lot. (I have 2 microSD's of 64GB, with one of them in an adapter in the dock so I can switch them around.) And the N10 only has a max of 32GB internal, as opposed to the 64GB of the TF700. If you watch films, that's very revelant. A single BluRay is already +-10-20GB!
But I'm also on the road an awful lot (about 7 hours a day), so the additional battery (another 9 hours of video!) is a real lifesaver.
And writing entire novels on a touchscreen is a nightmare, so I needed the dock; Yes you could use a bluetooth keyboard, but that eats battery. This one adds battery!
On top of that I need the USB slot for my 2tb portable harddrive and the OTG adapters on every other device I tried only gave me a "Voltage too high" error on every portable drive I tried, even some pendrives.
And the brightness matters because as a photographer I need outside visibility on my tab. If I can't review my photos on scene on it, the tab is useless to me.
Last but not least, with the dock attached, a mouse hooked up to the USB and Splashtop THD running, I have my pc with me everywhere. That's invaluable to me.
Yes. The TF700 has some issues too. I won't deny that.
It can be a bit sluggish on stock from time to time. (though mine seems to suffer less from this than others. Or maybe I'm just more patient.).
Also, some people with devices from Best Buy seem to be suffering from quite lousy build quality. I don't know why, but I haven't heard anyone from Europe having the same issues as them. Or maybe there's just a larger percentage of best buy users here that makes it seem that way.
Unlocking the device voids the warranty. I do not know how this is for the N10, but it might be relevant to you if you intent to flash custom roms.
I just purchased this from Woot for $299 bundled with the dock.
I still haven't received it, I probably will next week, I just had some questions.
(I did own the TF300 dock bundle and liked it but had to sell it)
Do you think that's a good deal?
Do you still enjoy your TF700?
If you have CM10 on it, how does it work?
If you have any other ROM, what do you like about it?
Anything you feel I should know (or get)?
Case recommendations would be nice.
Thanks in advance!
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I just purchased this from Woot for $299 bundled with the dock.
I still haven't received it, I probably will next week, I just had some questions.
(I did own the TF300 dock bundle and liked it but had to sell it)
Do you think that's a good deal?
Do you still enjoy your TF700?
If you have CM10 on it, how does it work?
If you have any other ROM, what do you like about it?
Anything you feel I should know (or get)?
Case recommendations would be nice.
Thanks in advance!
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$300 with the dock is a fair deal for a new tablet with these spec's.
No I do not like my T700 anymore, the ram is not powerful enough to run at the tablets native resolution causing the machine to run slow and hang all the time.
CM10 works fine, it's the only way to stomach using this tablet. Don't keep this tablet unless you plan to root it. Heck Don't buy it period buy the new amazon kindle and root that. . .
I use a rooCASE you can find them on Amazon they are fantastic.
The rams fine, although 1gb is restrictive, most devices only have 1gb and android really dont need more currently. Theres a well known issue with Asus using cheap nand chips resulting to low IO performance, with custom ROMs and kernels this can be counteracted and isnt much of an issue.
This was the case with the tf300t also.
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The rams fine, although 1gb is restrictive, most devices only have 1gb and android really dont need more currently. Theres a well known issue with Asus using cheap nand chips resulting to low IO performance, with custom ROMs and kernels this can be counteracted and isnt much of an issue.
This was the case with the tf300t also.
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Ya, I had a Nexus 7 and it only had 1gb of RAM and it still flew. That is on a smaller tablet with the lower resolution.
I do plan on unlocking it and using a rom.
I was mainly curious if this thing is the beast I've heard about once it's unleashed or if the bitter people in the Amazon reviews were just unsavvy with tech and use everything stock.
I won't be doing too much except web surfing, maybe a little bit of gaming and some video watching and social media using. Nothing too spectacular. I just really liked my tf300 and remember dreaming of having this baby, or even the prime, in exchange. Mainly for the dock. Dat dock.
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Ya, I had a Nexus 7 and it only had 1gb of RAM and it still flew. That is on a smaller tablet with the lower resolution.
I do plan on unlocking it and using a rom.
I was mainly curious if this thing is the beast I've heard about once it's unleashed or if the bitter people in the Amazon reviews were just unsavvy with tech and use everything stock.
I won't be doing too much except web surfing, maybe a little bit of gaming and some video watching and social media using. Nothing too spectacular. I just really liked my tf300 and remember dreaming of having this baby, or even the prime, in exchange. Mainly for the dock. Dat dock.
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Well the biggest point of this tablet is the screen, which is still one of the best on the market, ive even been reading that the tf701 has a strange yellow tint to the screen, not the case here.
At stock their are issues with the tablet, caused mostly by that IO bottleneck, With cromi and _thatv5 or hundsbuah kernels this tablet is very smooth, for a bit of a gaming comparison i was able to play dead trigger 2 with tegra 4 extended effects at about 20-30fps using hundsbuahs kernel heavily overclocked, which is very acceptable considering its pushing a 1920x1200 screen.
I also have a tf300t in the house, and a side by side comparision makes the tf300t's screen hard to look at lol, before i owned the tf700 i thought the tf300ts screen was fantastic.
There is really no performance benefit over the tf300t but the tf700 is still a better tablet. For me the main advantage is our native linux dualboot. Turns this device into a very portable notebook with an almost unrivaled battery life, and fantastic for school etc, and then use android for media/ gaming etc.
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Well the biggest point of this tablet is the screen, which is still one of the best on the market, ive even been reading that the tf701 has a strange yellow tint to the screen, not the case here.
At stock their are issues with the tablet, caused mostly by that IO bottleneck, With cromi and _thatv5 or hundsbuah kernels this tablet is very smooth, for a bit of a gaming comparison i was able to play dead trigger 2 with tegra 4 extended effects at about 20-30fps using hundsbuahs kernel heavily overclocked, which is very acceptable considering its pushing a 1920x1200 screen.
I also have a tf300t in the house, and a side by side comparision makes the tf300t's screen hard to look at lol, before i owned the tf700 i thought the tf300ts screen was fantastic.
There is really no performance benefit over the tf300t but the tf700 is still a better tablet. For me the main advantage is our native linux dualboot. Turns this device into a very portable notebook with an almost unrivaled battery life, and fantastic for school etc, and then use android for media/ gaming etc.
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Yea, that sounds like what I was kind of expect. From what I could understand.
I never really had to instal a kernel on any of my devices so I'm not familiar with what to choose and all. Any recommendations or links would be much appreciated. I would like to have it dual-boot linux, although I'm curious if it works with any rom I pick, because I'd honestly really like to be using 4.3 if it's running properly.
Should I unlock this thing right when I get it because it's a great deal and a great tablet so who cares about the warranty or should I wait a while?
I guess I'm just hoping I don't get a tablet that lags all the time. I've heard black and white on that. But I'm not doing anything crazy on it so I figure I should be golden.
Well i proberly recommend this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230059 for cromi
if you need more performance and the cost of battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2143093 this is a good choice.
I havnt tried android 4.3 on this tablet (cyanogenmod etc) as im not a fan of the 4.2+ laucher, but it should run fine, i know some ROMs lack alot of framework for the keyboard dock that the stock roms have, but thats up to you
The dualboot has up til now only supported stock/cromi roms, but with the new method should work fine.
My recommendation on unlocking would be to use the tablet as stock for 2-5 days to make sure there are no hardware defects, after that you should be good to unlock. In that 2-5 days i recommend reading through the forum to understand the methods used to flash roms, unlock, root etc
One example of this is backing up your mmcblk0p6 partition and restoring it after unlocking with i believes restores the drm keys that are removed during unlocking process, i think these keys are needed for full hd playback in some drm apps.