I'm a recent convert from the apple universe to the droid, captivate universe.
I have a little knowledge in programming and was excited to play round with the phone. And yes I know, I know (or don't know) enough to cause problems.
I have a couple of noob questions and just want to make sure of the answers before I do anymore.
Within the first two days of picking up the phone I “rooted” the 2.1 O.S. to see how I could speed the unit up. Few days after that I installed 2.2 OS to see how that would affect the system and what speed increases I would see.
My noob questions are;
Is the original ROM 2.1 still on the phone? And if so what is the best way to back it up.
If not, can I get a copy of it somewhere?
My thought is when AT&T release the actual upgrade I might want to reinstall the original ROM and do their upgrade.
I know I should have started out by backing up but I was excited to start tinkering.
If someone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
Thanks
dhostetter said:
My noob questions are;
Is the original ROM 2.1 still on the phone? And if so what is the best way to back it up.
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Nope.
If not, can I get a copy of it somewhere?
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[STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY
My thought is when AT&T release the actual upgrade I might want to reinstall the original ROM and do their upgrade.
I know I should have started out by backing up but I was excited to start tinkering.
If someone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
Thanks
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Welcome to Android. Read, read and read some more.
If u rooted and installed a custom rom, the factory os is gone. The only way to get it back is using the Odin app from ur computer. I don't remember where to get it. I know if u look around in the dev area u will see all the other rom threads and some require to have ur phone back on the original os. They sometimes have a link to Odin.
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Awesome Site!!
Hello Friends.
I am new to the world of Android and hence have a couple of general queries with regards to rooting.
When I have garnered sufficient knowledge and understanding, I will post in the appropriate section corresponding to my device.
I am vaguely aware of rooting but do not know a bit on how to proceed. Hence, I am here to learn from you all.
I have few basic understandings, please do correct me wherever I am wrong.
My presumptions are -
1] Rooting is reversible. I can un-root my device whenever I desire.
2] Before I root my device, it is highly recommended to backup the Stock ROM and other essentials such as Contacts and Messages, along with the personal data such as photographs, videos etc.
3] After rooting my device, I will be able to remove whichever pre-installed app (bloatware) on my device.
4] I am aware that the rooting process is usually different for every Android device.
5] I am also aware there are pre-rooted stock ROMs that exist as well.
My queries are -
1] Is it advisable to root my device first, then remove the desired bloatwares and after that, backup the stock ROM?
2] What is a pre-rooted stock ROM?
3] After my device is rooted, can I acquire official updates from the manufacturer of my device?
I beg every member to forgive my naivety and plead for your patience. I am not ashamed to admit I am a proverbial "noob".
I await your informative responses. Thank you all in advance.
YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends.
I am new to the world of Android and hence have a couple of general queries with regards to rooting.
When I have garnered sufficient knowledge and understanding, I will post in the appropriate section corresponding to my device.
I am vaguely aware of rooting but do not know a bit on how to proceed. Hence, I am here to learn from you all.
I have few basic understandings, please do correct me wherever I am wrong.
My presumptions are -
1] Rooting is reversible. I can un-root my device whenever I desire.
2] Before I root my device, it is highly recommended to backup the Stock ROM and other essentials such as Contacts and Messages, along with the personal data such as photographs, videos etc.
3] After rooting my device, I will be able to remove whichever pre-installed app (bloatware) on my device.
4] I am aware that the rooting process is usually different for every Android device.
5] I am also aware there are pre-rooted stock ROMs that exist as well.
My queries are -
1] Is it advisable to root my device first, then remove the desired bloatwares and after that, backup the stock ROM?
2] What is a pre-rooted stock ROM?
3] After my device is rooted, can I acquire official updates from the manufacturer of my device?
I beg every member to forgive my naivety and plead for your patience. I am not ashamed to admit I am a proverbial "noob".
I await your informative responses. Thank you all in advance.
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1) No. First root, then backup, then remove bloatware
2) Its a stock ROM (that comes with the phone) with root access
3) Yes u can receive official updates. Also called OTAs. (Over the Air)
Clarification,
I understand the usefulness of back ups, however, I don't keep them... call me dangerous, yes I have soft bricked my phone at work once... I have learned a few tricks along the way for getting out of a bind.
Also most custom ROMs are rooted, ie have su binaries installed and superuser app. They will usually produce a pure stock ROM in order to be "un-rooted."
The OTA question, though, is a trick question. No you cannot receive a pushed OTA if you are on a custom ROM. You may be able to if you were stock rooted. Realistically, you don't want to take an OTA, as it will likely break your root and you may be stuck until a new exploit is found. You will want to un-root to a version with a known root exploit.
You are on the right track and are smart for doing your research before you dive in. Be sure you are comfortable with the procedure and know your options and possible errors.
I am curious to know your device, and hear back with your progress!
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YLNdroid said:
My presumptions are -
1] Rooting is reversible. I can un-root my device whenever I desire.
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I don't know if you can, but it is reversible.
YLNdroid said:
2] Before I root my device, it is highly recommended to backup the Stock ROM and other essentials such as Contacts and Messages, along with the personal data such as photographs, videos etc.
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Without root, you usually can't backup everything, certainly not the complete ROM.
YLNdroid said:
3] After rooting my device, I will be able to remove whichever pre-installed app (bloatware) on my device.
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Yes, (there might be a difference with HTC devices see 'S-Off', i don't own a htc)
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4] I am aware that the rooting process is usually different for every Android device.
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The basics are usually the same, get the superuser binary and a management app on your device and make sure they are executable and have the right permissions. HOW they get there is what differs.
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5] I am also aware there are pre-rooted stock ROMs that exist as well.
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Yes
YLNdroid said:
1] Is it advisable to root my device first, then remove the desired bloatwares and after that, backup the stock ROM?
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No, backup the stock ROM first, if you screw up and remove too much or the wrong thing, you have something to go back to.
After you are done removing bloatware, you can backup again. Transfer the backups off your phone on your computer if they take too much space.
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2] What is a pre-rooted stock ROM?
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Its the ROM that came with the device, with the only difference that it has already been rooted (su binary and app added).
YLNdroid said:
3] After my device is rooted, can I acquire official updates from the manufacturer of my device?
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If you just root your device, yes.
Though you will mostlikely loose your root after you updated and have to root again.
Friends, thank you for your responses. Presently, I am pressed for time. Once university obligations have been fulfilled, I will steadily commence with my humble research and come back with eventual queries.
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I am curious to know your device, and hear back with your progress!
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imheroldman, an uncle of mine gifted me a Samsung Galaxy Note during Easter.
Hello Friends, I am about 95% finished with university obligations and very eager to start with the rooting (and tweaking!) process for my device.
During my hectic schedule, I did try to read and research to the best of my capabilities. Thus, I have my further queries.
1] I understand Rooting and Flashing are two different phenomena. Hence, should I discuss my queries relating to flashing ROMs in this very thread or should I start a separate one?
2] From what I have been advised through your replies, I understand I should -
(i) root my device first
(ii) back up the stock ROM and preferably transfer this back up to my computer
(iii) remove the desired bloatwares
(iv) back up the 'tweaked' stock ROM again and transfer it to my computer
I suppose it would do no harm in keeping two different backups, one with the stock ROM in its entirety and the other with bloatwares removed!
3] When the manufacturer releases an official update, I can avail this by restoring the back up created in (ii) of my query 2], and then un-rooting, right?
4] After I root my device, will the Binary Counter increase? I have been unable to read and research on the aspect of the binary counter.
I thank you all for your continued patience with my "noobish" behaviour. I am an infant in this domain and I have just started learning from you all.
Awaiting your highly valued expertise.
YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends, I am about 95% finished with university obligations and very eager to start with the rooting (and tweaking!) process for my device.
During my hectic schedule, I did try to read and research to the best of my capabilities. Thus, I have my further queries.
1] I understand Rooting and Flashing are two different phenomena. Hence, should I discuss my queries relating to flashing ROMs in this very thread or should I start a separate one?
2] From what I have been advised through your replies, I understand I should -
(i) root my device first
(ii) back up the stock ROM and preferably transfer this back up to my computer
(iii) remove the desired bloatwares
(iv) back up the 'tweaked' stock ROM again and transfer it to my computer
I suppose it would do no harm in keeping two different backups, one with the stock ROM in its entirety and the other with bloatwares removed!
3] When the manufacturer releases an official update, I can avail this by restoring the back up created in (ii) of my query 2], and then un-rooting, right?
4] After I root my device, will the Binary Counter increase? I have been unable to read and research on the aspect of the binary counter.
I thank you all for your continued patience with my "noobish" behaviour. I am an infant in this domain and I have just started learning from you all.
Awaiting your highly valued expertise.
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It most definitely never hurts to back up your roms as I've learned the hard way, cool tip, if you're keeping more than one backup make sure you liable them so as to make them distinguishable for future reference.
Removing bloatware is pretty easy, a lot of rooms out there even do it for you and now with the aroma installers a lot of the devs are using it makes it pretty cut and dry picking and choosing what you want installed or don't.
I wish you luck in your endeavors, its pretty awesome all the work these guys have done to make things way easy for beginners like us. Just be patient and read EVERYTHING I can't stress that enough, do your research if you encounter problems before you contact the dev because 9 times out of 10 someone else is having or had the problem before
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Venomusdragon said:
It most definitely never hurts to back up your roms as I've learned the hard way, cool tip, if you're keeping more than one backup make sure you liable them so as to make them distinguishable for future reference.
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Thank you Venomusdragon, I will definitely label my backups so that I can distinguish between them if and when the need arises to refer to the said backups.
I am awaiting further responses from the veteran members as well.
YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends, I am about 95% finished with university obligations and very eager to start with the rooting (and tweaking!) process for my device.
During my hectic schedule, I did try to read and research to the best of my capabilities. Thus, I have my further queries.
1] I understand Rooting and Flashing are two different phenomena. Hence, should I discuss my queries relating to flashing ROMs in this very thread or should I start a separate one?
2] From what I have been advised through your replies, I understand I should -
(i) root my device first
(ii) back up the stock ROM and preferably transfer this back up to my computer
(iii) remove the desired bloatwares
(iv) back up the 'tweaked' stock ROM again and transfer it to my computer
I suppose it would do no harm in keeping two different backups, one with the stock ROM in its entirety and the other with bloatwares removed!
3] When the manufacturer releases an official update, I can avail this by restoring the back up created in (ii) of my query 2], and then un-rooting, right?
4] After I root my device, will the Binary Counter increase? I have been unable to read and research on the aspect of the binary counter.
I thank you all for your continued patience with my "noobish" behaviour. I am an infant in this domain and I have just started learning from you all.
Awaiting your highly valued expertise.
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Friends, I eagerly await your expertise.
I sincerely apologise if I have put off any of you due to my paramount stupidity and naivety.
With utmost humility, I am keen on getting started with the first step - Rooting.
A humble request to the Superiors.
Could this thread be moved to the Android Q&A category of the Android Development and Hacking sub-forum, please?
Try searching in youtube for a more detailed explanation like i have
For a galaxy note,I believe ODIN is the best rooting tool.
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Hello Friends, please pardon my daft queries below.
I am aware that a device is required to be rooted in order to flash a custom firmware/ROM. Is it the same with a stock firmware/ROM?
Do I need to root the current stock firmware before I flash another stock firmware of my choice?
My device is a Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000. :silly:
Thank you for your patience.
YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends, please pardon my daft queries below.
I am aware that a device is required to be rooted in order to flash a custom firmware/ROM. Is it the same with a stock firmware/ROM?
Do I need to root the current stock firmware before I flash another stock firmware of my choice?
My device is a Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000. :silly:
Thank you for your patience.
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Custom firmware is not the same as stock firmware. Stock firmware is 'official' update and doesn't need rooting.
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Allanitomwesh said:
Custom firmware is not the same as stock firmware. Stock firmware is 'official' update and doesn't need rooting.
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Thank you for your apt response Allanitomwesh.
Your welcome.
Only consider rooting for stock firmware if it isn't available in your country.
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Allanitomwesh said:
Only consider rooting for stock firmware if it isn't available in your country.
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Allanitomwesh, could you kindly explain or describe a relevant scenario?
Thank you once again.
YLNdroid said:
Allanitomwesh, could you kindly explain or describe a relevant scenario?
Thank you once again.
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So you have an android phone. It is locked to your carrier. Google releases a new version of android,and the phone manufacturer makes a new firmware (new android + factory skin like say sense or touchwiz)
So,if your phone was unlocked you'd get firmware right away,but instead,the manufacturer is told by the carrier that the new android isn't good for their customers (interferes with bloatware or messes with internet,something like that) so you and everyone with your phone on that network gets skipped when the update rolls out. But you really want that new android...
That's when rooting your phone and flashing stock makes sense. Otherwise, custom roms usually have more features.
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Allanitomwesh said:
So you have an android phone. It is locked to your carrier. Google releases a new version of android,and the phone manufacturer makes a new firmware (new android + factory skin like say sense or touchwiz)
So,if your phone was unlocked you'd get firmware right away,but instead,the manufacturer is told by the carrier that the new android isn't good for their customers (interferes with bloatware or messes with internet,something like that) so you and everyone with your phone on that network gets skipped when the update rolls out. But you really want that new android...
That's when rooting your phone and flashing stock makes sense. Otherwise, custom roms usually have more features.
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Allanitomwesh, thank you very much for the explanation.
I suppose I need not worry as my device is the International version of the Samsung Galaxy Note [GT-N7000] and was sim free. :silly:
I was trying out different ROMs based on AOKP and CM9 on my device and I have finally chose to use the CM9 one. How can I remove "boot AOKP" from the start up? Does the present of the AOKP ROM take up space in my device? Thanks in advance.
You'll need to provide more details. What device do you have and what is this start menu? What rom is it?
And it shouldn't be taking up space on your system if you have CM installed. just taking space on your sd or internal flash memory.
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You'll need to provide more details. What device do you have and what is this start menu? What rom is it?
And it shouldn't be taking up space on your system if you have CM installed. just taking space on your sd or internal flash memory.
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I have an HP touchpad and I have installed this rom in both AOKP and CM9 version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501637
The CM9 is better so I decided to keep using it. How do I remove unnecessary stuff from previously installed ROM?
The start up menu means the one with black background and blue text for you to choose which OS to boot. Sorry for being a noob
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I have an HP touchpad and I have installed this rom in both AOKP and CM9 version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501637
The CM9 is better so I decided to keep using it. How do I remove unnecessary stuff from previously installed ROM?
The start up menu means the one with black background and blue text for you to choose which OS to boot. Sorry for being a noob
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lol, no problem. Its just commonly a good thing to state your device and what your running if you don't have that info in your signature, and always be as descriptive as possible. We love to help, but it makes it hard if we don't have something to go off of
I'm assuming you have some custom recovery installed like CWM recovery. Basically in recovery you would have had to of wiped before you flashed CM or your device wouldn't have booted. If it did, then we have a miracle on our hands When you wipe it removes all little bits of your previous rom. I suppose if you are still concerned there is an issue, you could just reboot back to recovery again and wipe everything except your sd and internal (not familiar with the device if it has those), and then just reflash the rom with gapps.
As far as the start menu I have no clue, I don't own that device to know how to remove or modify it. If I had to guess, I'd say it has something to do with the bootloader, and you should look around for a custom one on the forums that is modded for what you want.
Anyways, this is all just basic stuff and may not apply for the touchpad. If anything, just ask in the q&a section for the device that way a dev for that device can help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1467
I know you are new here so I'll just let you know real quick before I go, each device on XDA has five subforums.
TouchPad:
General
Q&A
Accessories
Development
Themes and Apps
So in the future if you have questions, the Q&A section for the TouchPad will be the best place to ask. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind helping, i just don't know the device like your actual devs would. Good luck!
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lol, no problem. Its just commonly a good thing to state your device and what your running if you don't have that info in your signature, and always be as descriptive as possible. We love to help, but it makes it hard if we don't have something to go off of
I'm assuming you have some custom recovery installed like CWM recovery. Basically in recovery you would have had to of wiped before you flashed CM or your device wouldn't have booted. If it did, then we have a miracle on our hands When you wipe it removes all little bits of your previous rom. I suppose if you are still concerned there is an issue, you could just reboot back to recovery again and wipe everything except your sd and internal (not familiar with the device if it has those), and then just reflash the rom with gapps.
As far as the start menu I have no clue, I don't own that device to know how to remove or modify it. If I had to guess, I'd say it has something to do with the bootloader, and you should look around for a custom one on the forums that is modded for what you want.
Anyways, this is all just basic stuff and may not apply for the touchpad. If anything, just ask in the q&a section for the device that way a dev for that device can help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1467
I know you are new here so I'll just let you know real quick before I go, each device on XDA has five subforums.
TouchPad:
General
Q&A
Accessories
Development
Themes and Apps
So in the future if you have questions, the Q&A section for the TouchPad will be the best place to ask. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind helping, i just don't know the device like your actual devs would. Good luck!
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Thank you so much! Too bad noobs can't post stuff on specific device's forum I guess I have to reply to more general posts to get rid of my noob status first... but thanks anyway!!
pds26 said:
Thank you so much! Too bad noobs can't post stuff on specific device's forum I guess I have to reply to more general posts to get rid of my noob status first... but thanks anyway!!
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Wait, I knew you couldn't post in the Development section, but now new people can't post in general or q&a?
pds26 said:
Thank you so much! Too bad noobs can't post stuff on specific device's forum I guess I have to reply to more general posts to get rid of my noob status first... but thanks anyway!!
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You can still post in q and a
Or general section till then.... Of your specific device forum
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You can still post in q and a
Or general section till then.... Of your specific device forum
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wildstang83 said:
Wait, I knew you couldn't post in the Development section, but now new people can't post in general or q&a?
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Ooops my bad...I was trying to ask something on the post of the ROM I use but the development section wouldn't let me so I thought I couldn't post in other sections as well...but thanks for letting me know!!
Good that you know it now.... Use it for the betterment of Xda and mistakes are bound to happen when you're new....
And welcome to the community
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Hey all,
I've looked through threads here and I'm just overwhelmed. I had my S3 rooted on 4.1.2 but Verizon kept coming up with these updates that I could either defer for 5 days or...update. When I chose update, it took me back to TeamWin. So I redid a fresh format from the TeamWin screen (I really don't mind rebuilding my phone and contacts) and I was able to update to 4.2.2 after that but but I'm still getting that Verizon update warning.
First of all, how do re-root my phone with 4.2.2? I thought TeamWin would disappear but it didn't. So I went back to that screen and went to Download. Now I'm on a screen with the Android robot that says "Downhloading... Do not turn off target !!"
I'm not sure what it's downloading.
I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section. I would be fine with a moderating moving it.
Thanks a lot!
First, this is T-Mobiles forum, you want Verizons.
Second, if twrp is still installed all you need to do is flash the SuperSU or superuser zip you can find eith a quick search.
Third, that is download mode. Only for use with Odin.
Fourth, considering you don't know these things, I suggest you read up on some of the many guides you can find here on xda.
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I highly suggest you do quite a bit of reading before you start messing with rooting and flashing roms. You could very easily brick your phone if you don't know what you're doing or if you flash a file that isn't meant for your phone.
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Also it is VERY important you be in the correct device forum. There are 5 S3 forums.
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Verizon does not have an official 4.2.2. We are still on 4.1.2 MF1 as the official. If you have 4.2.2 it is from a rom you have flashed.
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Only the S4 have Touchwiz 4.2.2 so we will assume that you are talking about AOSP roms as they are 4.2.2. Please be clear in your post so we can help you. Now to teach you about download mode it's there for you to flash stock Touchwiz back to your device via a software called Odin. Now what you just ask about (download mode) you could have Google searched it yourself and got your answers faster.
I have been searching, reading, and attempting everything I could find to fix this tablet for night and days. Some root/busybox detectors/verifiers gave me different results. Before this I knew nothing about this world so i'm a real greenhorn here. All I know so far is my device is rooted because of build no. V2.0.1.JRO03C.user.root.20131219. Afterwards some apps tell me I'm rooted and some told me no. I'm afraid something went terribly wrong with the files. I can't unroot,flash a new recovery, install adb, pretty much nothing works. All the apps I've tried told me an unknown bootloader. I just want to either return the tablet to original factory default or take control of the thing. This is the info I gathered from settings>about :
Model NX007HD8G
Android V. 4.1.1
Kernel 3.0.8
Serial no. YF031412173
And the build number above
At the moment I don't know what other info you guys might need so forgive me if I'm not thorough. Please, help me take control of my device.
Hi,
Thanks for using XDA assist.
Although there are some guides that could help you solve your problem, none of them seem to have working links for you to download and use.
Because of this, I would recommend posting in the Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting forum. Please note that in order to post, you will need to create a XDA account.
Good Luck! - gsstudios
hello
I appreciate the pointer. as you can see, im officially a XDA rookie member,proudly. Very much admire the things you guys do here on your spare time. When I first came upon this site, i knew right away this is a huge community, well accomplished and highly respected. That is why when I came to a dead end, this was my first pick.
Hope to see you again,
Huy L.
Going to Q&A forum