[Q] Rooting Queries - General Questions and Answers

Hello Friends.
I am new to the world of Android and hence have a couple of general queries with regards to rooting.
When I have garnered sufficient knowledge and understanding, I will post in the appropriate section corresponding to my device.
I am vaguely aware of rooting but do not know a bit on how to proceed. Hence, I am here to learn from you all.
I have few basic understandings, please do correct me wherever I am wrong.
My presumptions are -
1] Rooting is reversible. I can un-root my device whenever I desire.
2] Before I root my device, it is highly recommended to backup the Stock ROM and other essentials such as Contacts and Messages, along with the personal data such as photographs, videos etc.
3] After rooting my device, I will be able to remove whichever pre-installed app (bloatware) on my device.
4] I am aware that the rooting process is usually different for every Android device.
5] I am also aware there are pre-rooted stock ROMs that exist as well.
My queries are -
1] Is it advisable to root my device first, then remove the desired bloatwares and after that, backup the stock ROM?
2] What is a pre-rooted stock ROM?
3] After my device is rooted, can I acquire official updates from the manufacturer of my device?
I beg every member to forgive my naivety and plead for your patience. I am not ashamed to admit I am a proverbial "noob".
I await your informative responses. Thank you all in advance.

YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends.
I am new to the world of Android and hence have a couple of general queries with regards to rooting.
When I have garnered sufficient knowledge and understanding, I will post in the appropriate section corresponding to my device.
I am vaguely aware of rooting but do not know a bit on how to proceed. Hence, I am here to learn from you all.
I have few basic understandings, please do correct me wherever I am wrong.
My presumptions are -
1] Rooting is reversible. I can un-root my device whenever I desire.
2] Before I root my device, it is highly recommended to backup the Stock ROM and other essentials such as Contacts and Messages, along with the personal data such as photographs, videos etc.
3] After rooting my device, I will be able to remove whichever pre-installed app (bloatware) on my device.
4] I am aware that the rooting process is usually different for every Android device.
5] I am also aware there are pre-rooted stock ROMs that exist as well.
My queries are -
1] Is it advisable to root my device first, then remove the desired bloatwares and after that, backup the stock ROM?
2] What is a pre-rooted stock ROM?
3] After my device is rooted, can I acquire official updates from the manufacturer of my device?
I beg every member to forgive my naivety and plead for your patience. I am not ashamed to admit I am a proverbial "noob".
I await your informative responses. Thank you all in advance.
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1) No. First root, then backup, then remove bloatware
2) Its a stock ROM (that comes with the phone) with root access
3) Yes u can receive official updates. Also called OTAs. (Over the Air)

Clarification,
I understand the usefulness of back ups, however, I don't keep them... call me dangerous, yes I have soft bricked my phone at work once... I have learned a few tricks along the way for getting out of a bind.
Also most custom ROMs are rooted, ie have su binaries installed and superuser app. They will usually produce a pure stock ROM in order to be "un-rooted."
The OTA question, though, is a trick question. No you cannot receive a pushed OTA if you are on a custom ROM. You may be able to if you were stock rooted. Realistically, you don't want to take an OTA, as it will likely break your root and you may be stuck until a new exploit is found. You will want to un-root to a version with a known root exploit.
You are on the right track and are smart for doing your research before you dive in. Be sure you are comfortable with the procedure and know your options and possible errors.
I am curious to know your device, and hear back with your progress!
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YLNdroid said:
My presumptions are -
1] Rooting is reversible. I can un-root my device whenever I desire.
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I don't know if you can, but it is reversible.
YLNdroid said:
2] Before I root my device, it is highly recommended to backup the Stock ROM and other essentials such as Contacts and Messages, along with the personal data such as photographs, videos etc.
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Without root, you usually can't backup everything, certainly not the complete ROM.
YLNdroid said:
3] After rooting my device, I will be able to remove whichever pre-installed app (bloatware) on my device.
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Yes, (there might be a difference with HTC devices see 'S-Off', i don't own a htc)
YLNdroid said:
4] I am aware that the rooting process is usually different for every Android device.
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The basics are usually the same, get the superuser binary and a management app on your device and make sure they are executable and have the right permissions. HOW they get there is what differs.
YLNdroid said:
5] I am also aware there are pre-rooted stock ROMs that exist as well.
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Yes
YLNdroid said:
1] Is it advisable to root my device first, then remove the desired bloatwares and after that, backup the stock ROM?
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No, backup the stock ROM first, if you screw up and remove too much or the wrong thing, you have something to go back to.
After you are done removing bloatware, you can backup again. Transfer the backups off your phone on your computer if they take too much space.
YLNdroid said:
2] What is a pre-rooted stock ROM?
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Its the ROM that came with the device, with the only difference that it has already been rooted (su binary and app added).
YLNdroid said:
3] After my device is rooted, can I acquire official updates from the manufacturer of my device?
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If you just root your device, yes.
Though you will mostlikely loose your root after you updated and have to root again.

Friends, thank you for your responses. Presently, I am pressed for time. Once university obligations have been fulfilled, I will steadily commence with my humble research and come back with eventual queries.
imheroldman said:
I am curious to know your device, and hear back with your progress!
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imheroldman, an uncle of mine gifted me a Samsung Galaxy Note during Easter.

Hello Friends, I am about 95% finished with university obligations and very eager to start with the rooting (and tweaking!) process for my device.
During my hectic schedule, I did try to read and research to the best of my capabilities. Thus, I have my further queries.
1] I understand Rooting and Flashing are two different phenomena. Hence, should I discuss my queries relating to flashing ROMs in this very thread or should I start a separate one?
2] From what I have been advised through your replies, I understand I should -
(i) root my device first
(ii) back up the stock ROM and preferably transfer this back up to my computer
(iii) remove the desired bloatwares
(iv) back up the 'tweaked' stock ROM again and transfer it to my computer
I suppose it would do no harm in keeping two different backups, one with the stock ROM in its entirety and the other with bloatwares removed!
3] When the manufacturer releases an official update, I can avail this by restoring the back up created in (ii) of my query 2], and then un-rooting, right?
4] After I root my device, will the Binary Counter increase? I have been unable to read and research on the aspect of the binary counter.
I thank you all for your continued patience with my "noobish" behaviour. I am an infant in this domain and I have just started learning from you all.
Awaiting your highly valued expertise.

YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends, I am about 95% finished with university obligations and very eager to start with the rooting (and tweaking!) process for my device.
During my hectic schedule, I did try to read and research to the best of my capabilities. Thus, I have my further queries.
1] I understand Rooting and Flashing are two different phenomena. Hence, should I discuss my queries relating to flashing ROMs in this very thread or should I start a separate one?
2] From what I have been advised through your replies, I understand I should -
(i) root my device first
(ii) back up the stock ROM and preferably transfer this back up to my computer
(iii) remove the desired bloatwares
(iv) back up the 'tweaked' stock ROM again and transfer it to my computer
I suppose it would do no harm in keeping two different backups, one with the stock ROM in its entirety and the other with bloatwares removed!
3] When the manufacturer releases an official update, I can avail this by restoring the back up created in (ii) of my query 2], and then un-rooting, right?
4] After I root my device, will the Binary Counter increase? I have been unable to read and research on the aspect of the binary counter.
I thank you all for your continued patience with my "noobish" behaviour. I am an infant in this domain and I have just started learning from you all.
Awaiting your highly valued expertise.
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It most definitely never hurts to back up your roms as I've learned the hard way, cool tip, if you're keeping more than one backup make sure you liable them so as to make them distinguishable for future reference.
Removing bloatware is pretty easy, a lot of rooms out there even do it for you and now with the aroma installers a lot of the devs are using it makes it pretty cut and dry picking and choosing what you want installed or don't.
I wish you luck in your endeavors, its pretty awesome all the work these guys have done to make things way easy for beginners like us. Just be patient and read EVERYTHING I can't stress that enough, do your research if you encounter problems before you contact the dev because 9 times out of 10 someone else is having or had the problem before
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium
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Venomusdragon said:
It most definitely never hurts to back up your roms as I've learned the hard way, cool tip, if you're keeping more than one backup make sure you liable them so as to make them distinguishable for future reference.
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Thank you Venomusdragon, I will definitely label my backups so that I can distinguish between them if and when the need arises to refer to the said backups.
I am awaiting further responses from the veteran members as well.

YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends, I am about 95% finished with university obligations and very eager to start with the rooting (and tweaking!) process for my device.
During my hectic schedule, I did try to read and research to the best of my capabilities. Thus, I have my further queries.
1] I understand Rooting and Flashing are two different phenomena. Hence, should I discuss my queries relating to flashing ROMs in this very thread or should I start a separate one?
2] From what I have been advised through your replies, I understand I should -
(i) root my device first
(ii) back up the stock ROM and preferably transfer this back up to my computer
(iii) remove the desired bloatwares
(iv) back up the 'tweaked' stock ROM again and transfer it to my computer
I suppose it would do no harm in keeping two different backups, one with the stock ROM in its entirety and the other with bloatwares removed!
3] When the manufacturer releases an official update, I can avail this by restoring the back up created in (ii) of my query 2], and then un-rooting, right?
4] After I root my device, will the Binary Counter increase? I have been unable to read and research on the aspect of the binary counter.
I thank you all for your continued patience with my "noobish" behaviour. I am an infant in this domain and I have just started learning from you all.
Awaiting your highly valued expertise.
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Friends, I eagerly await your expertise.
I sincerely apologise if I have put off any of you due to my paramount stupidity and naivety.
With utmost humility, I am keen on getting started with the first step - Rooting.

A humble request to the Superiors.
Could this thread be moved to the Android Q&A category of the Android Development and Hacking sub-forum, please?

Try searching in youtube for a more detailed explanation like i have

For a galaxy note,I believe ODIN is the best rooting tool.
Sent from my U8150 using XDA

Hello Friends, please pardon my daft queries below.
I am aware that a device is required to be rooted in order to flash a custom firmware/ROM. Is it the same with a stock firmware/ROM?
Do I need to root the current stock firmware before I flash another stock firmware of my choice?
My device is a Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000. :silly:
Thank you for your patience.

YLNdroid said:
Hello Friends, please pardon my daft queries below.
I am aware that a device is required to be rooted in order to flash a custom firmware/ROM. Is it the same with a stock firmware/ROM?
Do I need to root the current stock firmware before I flash another stock firmware of my choice?
My device is a Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000. :silly:
Thank you for your patience.
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Custom firmware is not the same as stock firmware. Stock firmware is 'official' update and doesn't need rooting.
Sent from my U8150 using XDA

Allanitomwesh said:
Custom firmware is not the same as stock firmware. Stock firmware is 'official' update and doesn't need rooting.
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Thank you for your apt response Allanitomwesh.

Your welcome.
Only consider rooting for stock firmware if it isn't available in your country.
Sent from my U8150 using XDA

Allanitomwesh said:
Only consider rooting for stock firmware if it isn't available in your country.
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Allanitomwesh, could you kindly explain or describe a relevant scenario?
Thank you once again.

YLNdroid said:
Allanitomwesh, could you kindly explain or describe a relevant scenario?
Thank you once again.
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So you have an android phone. It is locked to your carrier. Google releases a new version of android,and the phone manufacturer makes a new firmware (new android + factory skin like say sense or touchwiz)
So,if your phone was unlocked you'd get firmware right away,but instead,the manufacturer is told by the carrier that the new android isn't good for their customers (interferes with bloatware or messes with internet,something like that) so you and everyone with your phone on that network gets skipped when the update rolls out. But you really want that new android...
That's when rooting your phone and flashing stock makes sense. Otherwise, custom roms usually have more features.
Sent from my U8150 using XDA

Allanitomwesh said:
So you have an android phone. It is locked to your carrier. Google releases a new version of android,and the phone manufacturer makes a new firmware (new android + factory skin like say sense or touchwiz)
So,if your phone was unlocked you'd get firmware right away,but instead,the manufacturer is told by the carrier that the new android isn't good for their customers (interferes with bloatware or messes with internet,something like that) so you and everyone with your phone on that network gets skipped when the update rolls out. But you really want that new android...
That's when rooting your phone and flashing stock makes sense. Otherwise, custom roms usually have more features.
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Allanitomwesh, thank you very much for the explanation.
I suppose I need not worry as my device is the International version of the Samsung Galaxy Note [GT-N7000] and was sim free. :silly:

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I need professional help please

Dear professionals,
I'm having a problem and I really need your help.
I have bought the "HTC Desire S" off ebay and it came out to be Orange locked, I have unlocked it successfully however it still has Orange ROM and all the useless Orange apps, can someone please tell me how to remove it and install a regular official ROM as they r very annoying and the ROM has no updates..
I appreciate your help
thank you very much in advance
yahyoohy said:
Dear professionals,
I'm having a problem and I really need your help.
I have bought the "HTC Desire S" off ebay and it came out to be Orange locked, I have unlocked it successfully however it still has Orange ROM and all the useless Orange apps, can someone please tell me how to remove it and install a regular official ROM as they r very annoying and the ROM has no updates..
I appreciate your help
thank you very much in advance
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THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT THREAD.
In answer to your question, open your eye's and read.....there are sticky's in the forum that have all the answers....make an effort!
I don't know how you managed to post in this area with only 4 posts...anyway...forum fail!
EDIT: Have requested that mod move thread
ben_pyett said:
I don't know how you managed to post in this area with only 4 posts...anyway...forum fail!
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you can do that using the mobile app i guess.
ben_pyett said:
THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT THREAD.
In answer to your question, open your eye's and read.....there are sticky's in the forum that have all the answers....make an effort!
I don't know how you managed to post in this area with only 4 posts...anyway...forum fail!
EDIT: Have requested that mod move thread
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take it easy, u might hurt ur self
ok its not quite in the right place, but no need to bite his head off.
anyway, in answer to your question, the way i removed the branding from my vodafone DS was this
http://revolutionary.io/ download this tool and follow its instructions, this will root your phone and give you a recovery tool that will allow you to flash a new ROM onto your phone.
With the phone rooted, you will be able to back up your data using an app from the market. Titanium Backup is the usual favorite.
EDIT : may be wrong about it providing root, I personally skipped the backup step as I had no data to lose, but if that is the case there are guides in the forums for obtaining root access
next look through this forum to find a ROM that suits your needs, from the sound of things you want the stock one, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029 should suit you.
download the zip file and transfer it to your SD card.
next you need to reboot into your recovery mode by turning the phone off, then hold the vol down button and power button together and selecting recovery from the menu
finally use the volume buttons to select install zip from SD card, and point it at your downloaded rom. it may take a few mins so allow it to finish then select reboot phone.
again this first boot may take a little time, but once its up you should have a debranded ROM as if you had just bought the phone new.
Add the details for your google account and redownload your backup app so you can restore your data and you are good to go
thank you very much for your help,
I shall give it a try,
by the way, will be able to install official updates on it, or will I have to stick with custom ROMs for ever?
thanks again
yahyoohy said:
thank you very much for your help,
I shall give it a try,
by the way, will be able to install official updates on it, or will I have to stick with custom ROMs for ever?
thanks again
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Nooo, not forever. Just until you get a new device
But seriously: Custom roms don't work with official updates. The trick is that most of the custom rom developers provide their own flashable updates for their roms. The difference is in the way you perform the update. There are even fairly developed custom roms, like MIUI, which have their own over-the-air updates (actually more often than official updates are coming.)
EDIT: In fact, you can switch back to a stock rom anytime and get the official updates back.
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ben_pyett said:
THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT THREAD.
In answer to your question, open your eye's and read.....there are sticky's in the forum that have all the answers....make an effort!
I don't know how you managed to post in this area with only 4 posts...anyway...forum fail!
EDIT: Have requested that mod move thread
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Hi Ben, had a bad day perhaps?
Hi Ben, had a bad day perhaps?
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lol, possibly....hello,
although a lot of effort had been put into creating a lot of resources which are very user friendly, so it's quiet frustrating when they aren't even looked at.
Plus development is for just that, which is why the moderator moved the thread.
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
ben_pyett said:
lol, possibly....hello,
although a lot of effort had been put into creating a lot of resources which are very user friendly, so it's quiet frustrating when they aren't even looked at.
Plus development is for just that, which is why the moderator moved the thread.
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
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Hi man,
I really appreciate what guys u r doing here, its just I’m a newB here, this is my first android phone, all I want someone to direct me where to find the info I need … no need for the attitude.
Keep it up guys
mimirom said:
Nooo, not forever. Just until you get a new device
But seriously: Custom roms don't work with official updates. The trick is that most of the custom rom developers provide their own flashable updates for their roms. The difference is in the way you perform the update. There are even fairly developed custom roms, like MIUI, which have their own over-the-air updates (actually more often than official updates are coming.)
EDIT: In fact, you can switch back to a stock rom anytime and get the official updates back.
Thanks for the info mimirom
OK, I understand... but how do I get the official stock rom?, and by stock that means it has no Orange apps at all right ?
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Once unlocked, i.e. rooted, you can use titanium backup or a root file explorer to uninstall the apps you don't need from the rom you are running atm.
(@ben - what was it you said to me th other day? "no need to sound off" ... hm)
Sent from my HTC Desire S
yahyoohy said:
Thanks for the info mimirom
OK, I understand... but how do I get the official stock rom?, and by stock that means it has no Orange apps at all right ?
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Well, again: read around the forum a little, please. There is a sticky thread right on the top of the development section, called ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT etc. It's a must read for newcomers. Very useful thread. There you find a link to a collection of stock roms. These are distributed as .exe files, so you can run them in windows and a simple-to-use installer will pop up and help you with pushing the stock rom to your phone. It is advisable that you double check that you are flashing the rom you really want. Someone here will help you to choose the right one.
EDIT: By the way in the general section (where we are now with this thread) there is also a very useful sticky. It's called Guide for Newcomers to Android. Seriously, it's a good read, given that you own an Android phone...
mimirom said:
Well, again: read around the forum a little, please. There is a sticky thread right on the top of the development section, called ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT etc. It's a must read for newcomers. Very useful thread. There you find a link to a collection of stock roms. These are distributed as .exe files, so you can run them in windows and a simple-to-use installer will pop up and help you with pushing the stock rom to your phone. It is advisable that you double check that you are flashing the rom you really want. Someone here will help you to choose the right one.
EDIT: By the way in the general section (where we are now with this thread) there is also a very useful sticky. It's called Guide for Newcomers to Android. Seriously, it's a good read, given that you own an Android phone...
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OK man, I will do that, thanks for the tips
Thanks chris5s, Ill definitely give it a shot.
This tool would help to get rid of the annoying Orange splash screen, and other useless apps could be removed as stated before.
Of course, best way is to install generic HTC European rom or custom rom of your choice.
Aforementioned tool would also help install roms, radios, etc, of your choice.
Good luck
Peace
Edit: sorry, Android flasher won't help install roms, but will help with installing custom recovery - Ext4 or Clockwork Mod - essential in s-off/rooted flashing.

[Q] Updating my new Desire S

Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.
There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.
SimonTS said:
There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.
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i know, im asking just because im new and not secure of the routine to follow. thanks anyway
el_d4rio said:
Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.
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If you haven't messed with your phone, i.e. rooted it, flashed any fancy thirty party rom, etc, and the phone is running official HTC ROM and in the exact same state as you bought it, I'd suggest OTA and upgrade to official ICS since you are new to android. Go to setting - about phone then update from there.
If you'd like to try other ROMs then there's plenty guide in this forum already.
Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
Sent from my HTC Desire S
amidabuddha said:
Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
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My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.
el_d4rio said:
My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.
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Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date
amidabuddha said:
Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date
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Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?
el_d4rio said:
Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?
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If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S
amidabuddha said:
If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S
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So why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Going custom i guess it's the only way, because htc is not going to update anymore, so better learn how to.
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now
el_d4rio said:
so why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now
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Yes you can root your current software (the stock one) if you need just root for an app or something specific without changing the software.
But going custom means to run Android and Sense version which you will never have officially. And they all come pre-rooted
Sent from my HTC Desire S
One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN
el_d4rio said:
One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN
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They have different versions, because they are ported from different devices and there are difference between them. Not only visual but also performance.
More info about each ROM you will find in the first post of its thread.
Sent from my HTC Desire S
hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS
el_d4rio said:
hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS
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The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
jugg1es said:
The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
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Ok, and for saving an image of my stock ROM, just in case i need to go back?
Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)
Jack_R1 said:
Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)
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don't worry i'm not offended... i read most of the stuff and guides out here, not taking just a minute to post the thread and having everyhting done by someone else.. i just needed directions! Anyway, if you don't want this kinda stuff in the forum, just put it in the registration form, newbies not accepted, and the prolem is solved
There is another thing that's floating around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
yup

S4 (4.2.2) is it leaked to S3 ??

Hi All:
This is my first time here, I've been looking for a Rom for my S3 which can make it more similar to S4 with all its featuers.
I flashed many Rom and most of them has the 4.2.2 update but it has the nexus touch which I didnt like on my S3.
Any recommendations for a good Rom which is stable and have no issues..
Thanks in advance
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KhaldounCG said:
Hi All:
This is my first time here, I've been looking for a Rom for my S3 which can make it more similar to S4 with all its featuers.
I flashed many Rom and most of them has the 4.2.2 update but it has the nexus touch which I didnt like on my S3.
Any recommendations for a good Rom which is stable and have no issues..
Thanks in advance
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
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The only answer I can give you is: Take a look in the developers forum. If you see something you like, try it. Maybe go for a rom with a stock (Samsung/TouchWiz) look, since that's what you're used to from the stock ROM. Actually, I'd start off by rooting your phone(you've already done that, since you've flashed a lot of ROMs), and remove all the bloatware you never use from stock ROM. Maybe replace a few of the stock apps with better alternatives. This makes the phone faster, and frees up memory.
You can also freeze apps, if you're not comfortable with removing them from the stock ROM. This thread discusses which apps are safe to freeze/remove. The OP links to this document showing a spreadsheet of apps that are safe/not safe to freeze/remove.
If you're not familiar with the term "freezing apps", you should do a forum search(or just Google) Titanium Backup. It's a feature LOADED (you guessed it...) backup-app, which allows you to freeze apps if you don't want to uninstall them completely. In short, it "disables" the app, removing it from the drawer, but keeping it installed. You can easily unfreeze the apps if you need them to work for you again.
Hope this helped you on you way. The world of custom ROMs is huge, so you're guaranteed to find somehing you like.
Regards,
Kombian
KhaldounCG said:
Hi All:
This is my first time here, I've been looking for a Rom for my S3 which can make it more similar to S4 with all its featuers.
I flashed many Rom and most of them has the 4.2.2 update but it has the nexus touch which I didnt like on my S3.
Any recommendations for a good Rom which is stable and have no issues..
Thanks in advance
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
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im sure that a dev will port the s4 touchwiz rom to the s3 soon. Just be patient.
4.2.2 for s3 (S4 original framework) doubts
Kombian said:
The only answer I can give you is: Take a look in the developers forum. If you see something you like, try it. Maybe go for a rom with a stock (Samsung/TouchWiz) look, since that's what you're used to from the stock ROM. Actually, I'd start off by rooting your phone(you've already done that, since you've flashed a lot of ROMs), and remove all the bloatware you never use from stock ROM. Maybe replace a few of the stock apps with better alternatives. This makes the phone faster, and frees up memory.
You can also freeze apps, if you're not comfortable with removing them from the stock ROM. This thread discusses which apps are safe to freeze/remove. The OP links to this document showing a spreadsheet of apps that are safe/not safe to freeze/remove.
If you're not familiar with the term "freezing apps", you should do a forum search(or just Google) Titanium Backup. It's a feature LOADED (you guessed it...) backup-app, which allows you to freeze apps if you don't want to uninstall them completely. In short, it "disables" the app, removing it from the drawer, but keeping it installed. You can easily unfreeze the apps if you need them to work for you again.
Hope this helped you on you way. The world of custom ROMs is huge, so you're guaranteed to find somehing you like.
Regards,
Kombian
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Thanks a lot for all the information that you've shared with me, I am still not familiar with many things in rooting which I might need your help with that.
The first thing, what you guys mean by Stock Rom? does it mean the original android framework that was not modified yet?
2nd: how to remove all the bloatware? and what do you mean by bloatware?
3rd: is it bad for the handset to be flashed again and again with many different ROMs? I always follow the steps which the developers mention in flashing any new ROM, so is there any right ways to do that without damaging my phone?
for now these are all the doubts that I have about rooting, but I might come up with many points in the future,
I hope you guys can help me in getting more knowledge about it, and thanks a lot for your precious time that you are giving me
Thanks again
KhaldounCG said:
Thanks a lot for all the information that you've shared with me, I am still not familiar with many things in rooting which I might need your help with that.
for now these are all the doubts that I have about rooting, but I might come up with many points in the future,
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For all doubts you have now and may have in the future, please follow the first rule of XDA:
"Search before asking"
And may I suggest you read through many of the fine guides and tutorials here on this forum. Look up the stickies in the section for ur device too.
"To err is human, to forgive is divine"
Sent from my SGS II

How I can root my smartphone? Is that the best choice?

Hello xda-developers!
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Core Plus SM-G350, I thinking about rooting my smartphone with a new Android release, without Samsung's applications. Can this be done? Is this the right solution? How I can do this? I don't want any updates locking!
Thank you!
lollix01 said:
Hello xda-developers!
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Core Plus SM-G350, I thinking about rooting my smartphone with a new Android release, without Samsung's applications. Can this be done? Is this the right solution? How I can do this? I don't want any updates locking!
Thank you!
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Hi, from your post I don't quite understand. Do you want to be able to update OTA after you've rooted your device or do you just want to find the best method of rooting?
The best method I would recommend would be flashing a custom recovery to your device via Odin then through the custom recovery flashing SuperSU.
And for the updating bit, every phone I have had has had to be unrooted before an OTA upgrade as not unrooting/returning to stock can cause complications and/or bricking the device
I think that the best way to go about it is to find an application called Poot. Funny name, great results. It will tell you to install another app and then it will ask you if you want to install additional libraries.
I recommend that you connect to WiFi for this.
There is a website called Cyanogenmod. Go there and search for ROMs for your phone, and if you can't, search XDA/
Rule of XDA: If it exists, there's a custom ROM for it.
Hope this helps! Don't forget to use the Thanks button!
AndrMatr said:
I think that the best way to go about it is to find an application called Poot. Funny name, great results. It will tell you to install another app and then it will ask you if you want to install additional libraries.
I recommend that you connect to WiFi for this.
There is a website called Cyanogenmod. Go there and search for ROMs for your phone, and if you can't, search XDA/
Rule of XDA: If it exists, there's a custom ROM for it.
Hope this helps! Don't forget to use the Thanks button!
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My question is:
Is rooting my Samsung Galaxy Core Plus a good choice?
Thank you
lollix01 said:
My question is:
Is rooting my Samsung Galaxy Core Plus a good choice?
Thank you
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In many ways, yes, and also no.
If you can find a ROM to do loaed up onto it (be careful if you do) you can probably overclock it to about 1.4-1.6 Ghz. However, that decreases the battery life. Another thing you can do with a custom kernel is underclocking, which lowers the power usiage if you're just listening to music and whatever.
Do some research. See if there are custo ROMs for the device. I have an old LG Phoenix that I have CyanogenMod 10 loaded up. It has some issues, but modding is great. Plus, with root, you can back up all of you apps and their data to your sdcard. You can also remove bloatware (pre-installed useless apps) and make sytem apps into user apps with Link2SD.
You can do a lot with root, but it voids your warranty and can potentially damage your phone. Be cautious and don't forget to use the Thanks Button!
@lollix01
If this is still valid, there are now a few Custom ROMs and Recoveries here that work on the Samsung Galaxy Core Plus.

[HELP THREAD] Ask any questions [NOOB FRIENDLY]

Welcome everyone!
This thread has been created for extreme newbies/noobs and for their benefit. Not only noobs, but everyone is free to post questions and also give answers to those questions. Any type of question is allowed as long as it is related about the device. No off-topic discussions are allowed!​
Hit Thanks if I Helped You!!! :good:
Regards,
PoseidonKing
hi
just created an account finally but been around the phone scene for a while. Im def feeling like a noob right now as i cant figure out how to stop this samsung storyservice.apk from naggin me and preventing me from not being able to open certain apps. im on the j700p with a stock rooted rom and ive debloated a few things myself but it seems the apk is somehow supposed to run with a different apk that i am deleting. any advice??? Thank you
jicapop said:
just created an account finally but been around the phone scene for a while. Im def feeling like a noob right now as i cant figure out how to stop this samsung storyservice.apk from naggin me and preventing me from not being able to open certain apps. im on the j700p with a stock rooted rom and ive debloated a few things myself but it seems the apk is somehow supposed to run with a different apk that i am deleting. any advice??? Thank you
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This is sounding like self promotion, however, I think you should flash my debloated ROM. It is a lot more simple than manually debloating it yourself.
I want to change my username on xda
saddam.khan999 said:
I want to change my username on xda
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Send a pm to @MikeChannon. He is the forum administrator and has the authority to change usernames and stuff like that.
Hit Thanks if I Helped You!!!
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PoseidonKing
Virgin Mobile J700P
Hello! First, thank you all for everything you do here--this is an extremely helpful community of people.
I have a Galaxy J700P with Virgin Mobile. Running J700PVPU1APH4 software. I've rooted it and had no success with creating a second partition on the SD card to use Link2SD for apps. I've tried formatting on PC via Minitool Partition Wizard, on the phone using Aparted, and also tried with Apps2SD. Link2SD simply refuses to recognize the 2nd partition ("Mount script error"). It has been suggested to me to try Cyanogenmod or a custom Lollipop (to use adoptable storage).
In short, I'd like to flash a ROM that will allow me to use my SD card for app storage. Being able to continue using Google Play Store apps is also preferred. Are there any suggestions for software that is the most stable for this phone that will allow me to use SD card for app storage? Let me know if you need more info. Thank you for reading!
minz1 said:
This is sounding like self promotion, however, I think you should flash my debloated ROM. It is a lot more simple than manually debloating it yourself.
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It;s not self promotion at all man cause i used yours first lol, its was very nicely done until i needed some of those apps for basic functionality. I needed the music and video player and i found that the signal was shotty with your rom compared to stock. There were some others that i cant remember right now. So, I then dirty flashed the stock rom over your rom and added custom recovery and superuser. I gained the tethering feature and the update prl and services which i need in my area sometimes to get better coverage. I know a lot of people dont mind this as they want the minimal. I know Im a noob with this stuff as i came from the lg 740 and this is a whole diff game. Thank you though for your efforts in making the rom i have yet to look on how to thank people cause im still new here. Sorry for the one long paragraph by the way
PoseidonKing said:
Send a pm to @MikeChannon. He is the forum administrator and has the authority to change usernames and stuff like that.
Hit Thanks if I Helped You!!!
Regards,
PoseidonKing
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Done that.... username changed... thanks
SidRose01 said:
Done that.... username changed... thanks
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Welcome!
Regards,
PoseidonKing
Hi!
I have a problem on a J7 2016. Google services eats the battery, being accountable for up to 60% of battery use on every cycle.. I know it is a pretty common problem on lots of phones, but not being able to root / install custom rom (not my phone), any advice on solving it? - besides stopping google account sync.
I have tried uninstalling updates, with no success.
Regards.
EDIT: I guess I should tell I am on stock MM, last update. Haven't tried to do a HR - full reinstall, hoping there will be a better option
CalvinH said:
Hi!
I have a problem on a J7 2016. Google services eats the battery, being accountable for up to 60% of battery use on every cycle.. I know it is a pretty common problem on lots of phones, but not being able to root / install custom rom (not my phone), any advice on solving it? - besides stopping google account sync.
I have tried uninstalling updates, with no success.
Regards.
EDIT: I guess I should tell I am on stock MM, last update. Haven't tried to do a HR - full reinstall, hoping there will be a better option
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About the play services thing, you can't do anything except flashing a custom ROM without gapps (if you wanna uninstall play services). About the problem you mentioned that you cannot root or install custom ROM, what exactly is the issue? Please exaggerate the problem. Good luck!
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PoseidonKing
thanks for creating help thread and im extremely noob
my device is SM-J700F, android version is 5.1.1
do you knows where to find custom roms for my devices that can open any simcard from any network provider?
im still googling until now to find the right custom rom for my devices
and thanks again for your friendly thread.
The network lock is separate from the rom. Continue with Google.
Sent from my SM-J700F using XDA-Developers mobile app
BradNextDoor said:
Hello! First, thank you all for everything you do here--this is an extremely helpful community of people.
I have a Galaxy J700P with Virgin Mobile. Running J700PVPU1APH4 software. I've rooted it and had no success with creating a second partition on the SD card to use Link2SD for apps. I've tried formatting on PC via Minitool Partition Wizard, on the phone using Aparted, and also tried with Apps2SD. Link2SD simply refuses to recognize the 2nd partition ("Mount script error"). It has been suggested to me to try Cyanogenmod or a custom Lollipop (to use adoptable storage).
In short, I'd like to flash a ROM that will allow me to use my SD card for app storage. Being able to continue using Google Play Store apps is also preferred. Are there any suggestions for software that is the most stable for this phone that will allow me to use SD card for app storage? Let me know if you need more info. Thank you for reading!
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Hi again,
Still looking for any nudges in the right direction please.
leochard said:
thanks for creating help thread and im extremely noob
my device is SM-J700F, android version is 5.1.1
do you knows where to find custom roms for my devices that can open any simcard from any network provider?
im still googling until now to find the right custom rom for my devices
and thanks again for your friendly thread.
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What do you mean by 'Open any sim card from any network provider'?
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PoseidonKing
Would ROMS built for the J700 F/H/M be compatible with the J700T? There is not many ROMS built for the J700T, while there is a bunch for the J700 F/H/M.
The only difference I see in the phones are the different carriers so you would think that they would be compatible with each other.
Thanks
vekenti said:
Would ROMS built for the J700 F/H/M be compatible with the J700T? There is not many ROMS built for the J700T, while there is a bunch for the J700 F/H/M.
The only difference I see in the phones are the different carriers so you would think that they would be compatible with each other.
Thanks
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I don't think so. I had my old Galaxy J-5 fried due to flashing ROM not meant for my device. I would suggest not doing it if it is your primary device. But go ahead if you're a development nut and wanna try it anyways. If you try it and it works, update your post here so others can know.
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Regards,
PoseidonKing
I have many questions with this bootloader. I'm new to this things. Sorry. Btw I have the J700F J7(2015) model.
1. Is there any way to know if my phone is in locked bootloader or unlocked?
2. I'm planning to install the Pixel Experience rom and I've read that i must unlock the bootloader first. I know that I must be from stock rom. Then I will install the TWRP, then root, then proceed to flashing the rom. In this process, where will I unlock the bootloader? Do I need it to be unlocked before I install the TWRP?
3. I know that I can google it, but is there an easiest way to unlock the bootloader?
Sorry, I have many questions.
Hi. I have your exact same model ?
To unlock the bootloader, enable developer options - in settings, about device, software info. Tap build number 7 times.
Now go back to settings, developer options - enable OEM Unlock. Also enable USB Debugging.
Done.
Are on marshmallow? If yes, make sure SuperSu is version 2.78 or newer.
Tip - make sure to backup your fon first as soon as you install TWRP. BEFORE rooting.
Keep 2 copies of this backup.
To install the Pixel rom you must already be on stock marshmallow
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How hard would it be to port a ROM built for the J700 F/H/M to the J700T?

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