It looks like we need to come out with a new OTA base, some of the newer ROM's threads are being closed. Also, there is rumor that some devs are getting banned for posting ROMS's based on original OTA in RootzWiki. Being very new to this whole thing I can help, I attempted to make my my own but ended up rooted and S-ON (fixed now).
In any event I reverted back to stock, no root, did the OTA upgrade (what originally caused be problems since it updated HBOOT to 1.08). I was able to root it and do a backup. Now I am back to S-OFF and rooted, so I want to see what we can do with the backup, as far as I know the boot.img is the missing link. The one that came with OTA ICS installs 1.08 HBOOT (f5e16f3f55ddfb0ec10c8f9a75b35bed boot.img) which is not good.
I think we should create a completely open source version of the OTA and allow anyone and anybody to customize it as they see fit. Let's face it the TBolt lifecycle is at it's end so those of us that are left should work together.
Danm that sucks, I was wondering what was going on.
I love your idea, if I knew anything about this stuff I would help. When I saw the threads were locked for that reason it annoyed the hell out of me. What happened to Android being open source like its supposed to be.
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Nevermind I see whats going on here. I read Santod040 post in the other thread and he makes some valid points. I wish I could help tho.
I agree with Santod040 as well that is why I am doing this. I will probably not be able to do this all on my own, mostly because I have been basically an ROM end user. By the time I learn all I need to build my own ROM I will hopefully be on another device.
You have to do a system dump using adb. I'm not 100% certain but it may have to be done before it is altered. In other words 100% stock ota.
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Good idea!
I also wish I knew more. My simple successes have so far been related to theming of icon color in Browser.apk including some simple string edits, and custom colored or fully transparent LATIN_IME.apks.
I already have Ubuntu on a dual boot PC and Eclipse, and also have an updated SDK, but some 'clif notes' to get me started would be helpful. I've browsed around before and read many threads all over.
I like the idea of us all joining up to see what we can do!
The command for that should be listed with the other adb commands when you type adb in a terminal. You will need tools for splitting the boot.img as well since to make the ota a flashable you will have to package the boot.img in a zip.
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The command for that should be listed with the other adb commands when you type adb in a terminal. You will need tools for splitting the boot.img as well since to make the ota a flashable you will have to package the boot.img in a zip.
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Isn't HBOOT packaged with the boot.img? For the backup that I did I have all that. What is the difference between doing a backup and doing a system dump with adb?
I finally found OTAUpdate.zip, I am going to dissect that and see what I can come up with. I was just about to downgrade and redownload the otaupdate.zip, saved me some time.
The nand is different because it isn't flashable the same way that a rom is. Theoretically you could upload the nand and people could use that to get the base but it just isn't the typical practice. It is better to have a flashable zip. The otaupdate.zip is not like a normal file especially since the update is a whole lot of patches that have to be applied to the stock gb base. That is why it took santod almost a day to assemble it into a flashable zip.
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Yeah it's sad it comes to this though. The community is who loses out in the end. As long as someone isnt profiting off your work I dont see what the problem is with them kanging it. Dev's are all supposed to have the same goal here, enrich the community with roms. They only do it because they are generous and enjoy helping out, especially a dying community such as the Thunderbolt. We need as much dev support as we can get, no matter where it comes from. If your goal is to help the community then you should be happy that they are enjoying your work, it's not like we dont know where the stuff comes from anyway.
Look guys just use the Unlock your bootloader on ICS Method, Get root, Install the recovery, backup the rom. Copy the backup from /clockwork to computer. Zip it and send to me. All we need is the System partition. The rest we will find
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The nand is different because it isn't flashable the same way that a rom is. Theoretically you could upload the nand and people could use that to get the base but it just isn't the typical practice. It is better to have a flashable zip. The otaupdate.zip is not like a normal file especially since the update is a whole lot of patches that have to be applied to the stock gb base. That is why it took santod almost a day to assemble it into a flashable zip.
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I see FOTA in OTAUpdate, I am assuming that is where HBOOT is being updated. That is what I was planning on doing, getting last GB RUU and manually running the scripts to come up with OTA. But the boot.img is what I don't understand, it seems the various boot.img is various ROM's are different (having different MD5's), are these built?
Guys can we please cut out the name calling and puerile acrimony?
I know that development can be a passion, but we need to work out our differences peacefully and sublimate our passion into development and this verbal venom.
As of right now let's cut out the nonsense, I am going to clean the thread up a bit and attempt to get some specifics, then we can discuss the issues without resorting to flaming.
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I see FOTA in OTAUpdate, I am assuming that is where HBOOT is being updated. That is what I was planning on doing, getting last GB RUU and manually running the scripts to come up with OTA. But the boot.img is what I don't understand, it seems the various boot.img is various ROM's are different (having different MD5's), are these built?
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Again I'm not 100% certain but i am sure that the new hboot is needed to assemble the ota because the patches in the ota are encrypted and the hboot decrypts those patches and assembles them.
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Guys can we please cut out the name calling and puerile acrimony?
I know that development can be a passion, but we need to work out our differences peacefully and sublimate our passion into development and this verbal venom.
As of right now let's cut out the nonsense, I am going to clean the thread up a bit and attempt to get some specifics, then we can discuss the issues without resorting to flaming.
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You see who started it. If he wants to troll n call people out he should expect a reply. As long as I've been here and been in this community I've never had to give reports to mods over a user. He should learn to control his mouth and he wouldn't get a Ill mannered response. He thinks he's all perfect then after all the fight gladly advertises and sends you to infected ROM forums and continues to get away with it. He's lost the respect of many over this one.
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And good job deleting my post but leaving his up. Tbolt community on xda i'm sorry. But you just flat lined. Enjoy
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You see who started it. If he wants to troll n call people out he should expect a reply. As long as I've been here and been in this community I've never had to give reports to mods over a user. He should learn to control his mouth and he wouldn't get a Ill mannered response. He thinks he's all perfect then after all the fight gladly advertises and sends you to infected ROM forums and continues to get away with it. He's lost the respect of many over this one.
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And good job deleting my post but leaving his up. Tbolt community on xda i'm sorry. But you just flat lined. Enjoy
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I am going to leave this post here to make a point.
The fact is that you too should learn to control your own "mouth" (or keyboard as it were).
This isn't about who is right or wrong, I honestly don't even know what is going on at this point as I am still trying to figure exactly what the problem is, but this is not the place to go off like an atomic warhead about whatever is going on here. If you allow someone to bait you into these types of remarks, then you are giving that person control over your emotions and your reactions and you then take on the role of villain.
Whatever is going on you can PM a mod or get it sorted out through proper channels, some of our mods and Admin are developers and know the stuff inside out, they can sort out who is actually the instigator here.
End of discussion on this please. PM me if you still have issue. I will figure out what is happening and act on it.
Be civil, I refuse to believe that that is beyond your or anyone else's ability.
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Yeah it's sad it comes to this though. The community is who loses out in the end. As long as someone isnt profiting off your work I dont see what the problem is with them kanging it. Dev's are all supposed to have the same goal here, enrich the community with roms. They only do it because they are generous and enjoy helping out, especially a dying community such as the Thunderbolt. We need as much dev support as we can get, no matter where it comes from. If your goal is to help the community then you should be happy that they are enjoying your work, it's not like we dont know where the stuff comes from anyway.
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It could be looked at as a dev is getting donations off another devs hard work. So basically he or she is profiting off another's work. It's always best to ask another if they can use their work. I know liquid went through this with cm team. If a dev doesn't ask and just uses another's work. They should expect to get a nastygram from the dev who did the work. Free or paid stealing work is still stealing.
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Aghhh, can we get back on topic....we need to create a new OTA base.
Related
*****NOT A CWM FLASHABLE ZIP*******
I tried to make a rom based off ACS-ICS v2, because my GPS was working.
However something in the rom still is off. I had no GPS. My Nandroid backup however restored my GPS.
So here is my first attempt at a Rom/Nandroid:
Based of of ACS-ICS - marcusant
-Official 2.3.5
-No CiQ (k0nane)
-Rooted
-EXT4
-IAP's EI22 Kernel* Basic OC/UV to 1200* (earthbound[iap] )
-DeOdexed (xBTx)
-Juwe RAM Tweak (Juwe11)
-3G TurboCharger (zeppelinrox)
I added:
•SGS4G Adrenaline Shot (Dsexton702)
•ASOP Sytle Lock Screen (ICS Themed to match ACS ICS Rom)
•ACS ICS Launcher 4.0
•LogProvider Fix
•AppWidget Picker
My appoligies to anyone I forgot.
If this works to get the GPS going for some,
Hopefully we can use it to figure out why ACS ICS kills the GPS.
Thanks bodi524
Link Broke:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bz7z0H1uox4FNjg5NzY4NDUtNmQ1Yy00M2QyLWE2NTctNzUzZjIxODVlMTM0
New Link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?citzpdnq9moo4
Thanks for doing this! Hopefully I can get someone in ACS to come up with a new kernel. I will hopefully work on my rom today.
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No problems.
If it helps figure out the GPS Issue and move things forward I am happy.
I have been using the ACS ICS EH17 Rom for a while.
No Using the EI22 version with some tweaks. Look forward to
newer versions soon.
Sorry wrong thread
The dl link just takes me to m Google docs account...
I don't see any other links. Any suggestions?
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No Boot Logo Like NumberKernal.
It Just jumps to the Boot Animation.
familymedia said:
The dl link just takes me to m Google docs account...
I don't see any other links. Any suggestions?
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Creating a new DL link.
Why would you do this? This isn't development. You could've at least made a cwm zip. What the heck has xda come to.
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ugothakd said:
Why would you do this? This isn't development. You could've at least made a cwm zip. What the heck has xda come to.
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Correct me if i'm wrong but, I expect it's a Nandroid backup that may need to be extract into your CWM backup file and you just have to do a restore of it in CWM. I'd be sure to make a nandroid of your current rom before applying any other rom.
Working great for me no issues...thank you
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Correct me if i'm wrong but, I expect it's a Nandroid backup that may need to be extract into your CWM backup file and you just have to do a restore of it in CWM. I'd be sure to make a nandroid of your current rom before applying any other rom.
Working great for me no issues...thank you
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I know this is a clockworkmod backup. All I'm saying is wtf. He could've at least made a cwm flashable. This took no skill AT ALL. This doesn't deserve its own thread. Maybe in off topic, or the ics thread. But no.
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Comment removed as I noticed that it seemed mean and that was not the intention at all...
I just wanted to add that I got this last night before v3 or 3.5 were posted and it really seems rock solid. GPS is excellent too.
Debating whether I want to install 3.5... hmmmmm
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ugothakd said:
I know this is a clockworkmod backup. All I'm saying is wtf. He could've at least made a cwm flashable. This took no skill AT ALL. This doesn't deserve its own thread. Maybe in off topic, or the ics thread. But no.
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Semantics. It's this attitude that sends new users, that could be of benefit in the future, running away from development.
In the time it took you to chastise this guy, you could have just as easily pointed him to the right place to do as you suggested.
Who are you to judge what skill is, who are you and what have you ever contributed?
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I have updated the rom and now this 'rom' is useless...
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It's not useless IMHO...I'm still running with it with no problems after taking out the bloatwares. Of course, I did have to do the gps fix but, that was something minimal to me. I'm happy with this rom as is. Thanks for it.
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Geez. You didn't have to change the title to delete. I kinda fell bad that everybody was bashing on you now. I am perfectly fine with you branching off and starting your own rom... I have nothing against it because you gave proper credit. I didn't mean to sound mean or anything like that... All work should be shared and different people like different things. Anyways, I also suggest that you learn how to extract a nandroid or create a rom without one.
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Making a cwm flashable is easy. There are many tutorials/how-tos out there. I could've made a number of "roms," but everytime I wanted to put something out I always realized that it wasn't development. I dont remember where I heard this but someone said that development isn't deleting apk's theming and calling it a rom.
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All I was doing was a FIRST TRY! Atleat I was willing to give it a shot on my own!...and was working to try to make improvements for all epic users. If that offends you all well then too bad.
Since I uploaded this I did figure out how to create a CWM zip and expand a nandroid.
For those that did try it I thank you...glad someone got some use from it. Will probably be my last.
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All I was doing was a FIRST TRY! Atleat I was willing to give it a shot on my own!...and was working to try to make improvements for all epic users. If that offends you all well then too bad.
Since I uploaded this I did figure out how to create a CWM zip and expand a nandroid.
For those that did try it I thank you...glad someone got some use from it. Will probably be my last.
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The first rom I posted was an early branch off of another popular rom. Despite clarifying my intentions, stating my immaturity, and giving all due credit, a mod deleted my thread without warning. Rather annoying, since the toughest part of doing all this was assembling a clear and informative thread.
I have since moved the majority of my information and all my download links to a separate site, courtesy of another less whiny forum.
While I cannot condone if someone were to rip off an entire rom and claim the work to be all their own, I also cannot condemn an effort by someone attempting to learn and share.
Android is, after all, open source.
Unfortunately, XDA is a tough crowd. You'll want to be a little more prepared before you launch a Rom thread if you're not ready for the backlash.
bodi524 said:
All I was doing was a FIRST TRY! Atleat I was willing to give it a shot on my own!...and was working to try to make improvements for all epic users. If that offends you all well then too bad.
Since I uploaded this I did figure out how to create a CWM zip and expand a nandroid.
For those that did try it I thank you...glad someone got some use from it. Will probably be my last.
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Don't get discouraged and keep up the good work!!!!! You are doing a great job.
I, for one, thank you for your effort. Don't let the self-rightous spoiled children on this site get you down, keep trying to get better and learn.
Hi, I have noticed a ton of people curious about why AT&T people do not have ICS yet, so I thought I would answer that once and for all. I admit that I and others have gotten a little mad whenever people ask about this, but it seems they are not able to really find a clear answer, so here it is.
If you feel like this is well done, please sticky it at least until we get it all figured out.
I figure this would be best said i a Q and A type form.
Q: What is ICS, and why does everyone want it so bad?
ICS or "Ice Cream Sandwich" is android version 4.0.x. the next version, 4.1 Jellybean was just released as a slightly less important update, but ICS brought huge changes from Ginger Bread (2.3.x) the previous phone version (3.x HoneyComb was tablet only). ICS brings a slicker, darker, and better looking user interface, as well as many performance enhancements. Most of us want it more because it seems like we should than because it is actually that much better. That said it is still a great update, and most people will be happy to see it.
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Q: Why is it so hard to get ICS for our phone, while others have it even though it is not officially out?
The main reason is our locked bootloader. That means it is not possible to flash or boot a custom kernel unless it is signed with Motorola's key. That is obviously impossible.
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Q: What is a kernel?
the kernel is a major part of any operating system. you can think of it as a sort of layer between hardware and software. It is the part of an OS that communicates directly with a device's hardware. Android is based off the open source Linux kernel, meaning it is free for anybody to build and modify. However, Motorola has only released the source for the ME865, and partially for the MB865, meaning we can't really build a kernel anyways. Then of course, even if we could build one, we wouldn't be able to boot it with our locked bootloader.
ICS is not really complete without the newer kernel that goes with it
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What is Kexec, and is there any way to unlock the bootloader
The fact that I grouped these together would probably lead you to correctly believe they are related. Lets start with the second half. Simply put, NO. I hate to say it, but there is very little hope of EVER unlocking our bootloader, unless Motorola decides to do something like HTC did and allow unlocking.
Kexec is a method of hot switching kernels while still booted. It is actually just a linux tool that you can use on a computer, but it has been built for android essentially allowing you to bypass the bootloader. Theoretically it would be an easy way to run custom kernels. Then why don't we? Well a few reasons. One, we can't really get one built to begin with, especially because, at least to my knowledge, jimbridgman is the only one who actually knows what he is doing with kernel building, and he is only half here now that he got his fany new SGS3. Two, it does not work great. I am not sure the latest version is working at all on our phone, and even if it did, only one processor comes up, meaning it is really slow.
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Q: What's the deal with these Droid 3 builds that supposedly boot?
Some people managed to build ICS for the droid 3 based of a 2.3.6 kernel. that means you can boot it on a stock GB kernel, and therefore you do not need to unlock the bootloader. Unfortunately that means it is not totally ICS, but it is still pretty good. Of course they are for a cdma phone, so that means no data, no calls, and no gps, making it kind of useless.
I am not going to give a link to them, but if you are really interested go search around. any of the Droid 3 AOKP and CM9 builds will boot just fine. Find more info in the dev section, but please don't start a thread asking about it.
We have been trying to port these to work for us, but that is proving more difficult than expected, and with ICS just around the corner, I don't want to put time into it. I do think it is possible, and if you are a dev looking to give it a shot, PM me and I will tell you all I know, and try to help out as much as I can.
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Great thread!
Thanks for putting this together!
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jimbridgman said:
Great thread!
Thanks for putting this together!
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thanks. I felt it was needed. let me know if I forgot to say something important.
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Perhaps this will hopefully curb some of the incessant "where's my ice cream sandwich" or "make me a rom based on ICS" threads here. Nice job, and as always, your work here is both highly appreciated and revered.
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Nice work kras, as always.
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Hell i thought this thread was going to give me info on why att hadn't released ics for us yet. Just kidding, good job. If this thread falls down the list ill bump it so maybe it will help some of the new people and we won't get any more new threads about ics.
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Apex_Strider said:
Perhaps this will hopefully curb some of the incessant "where's my ice cream sandwich" or "make me a rom based on ICS" threads here. Nice job, and as always, your work here is both highly appreciated and revered.
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No,Most likely once posts stop on this thread and it makes it to the second page we will see more questions im sure lol
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rdavisct said:
No,Most likely once posts stop on this thread and it makes it to the second page we will see more questions im sure lol
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that's why I asked for sticky
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The good news is that the "3rd quarter" is tomorrow! Which knowing motorola and AT&T, could mean whatever.
Take that with a grain of salt. Lol.
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Fall of Enosis said:
The good news is that the "3rd quarter" is tomorrow! Which knowing motorola and AT&T, could mean whatever.
Take that with a grain of salt. Lol.
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so is September
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Why don't we have a vanilla rom? Is it due again to the locked bootloader?
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gvsukids said:
Why don't we have a vanilla rom? Is it due again to the locked bootloader?
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yep. same thing. we have a hard time compiling any also source as you need a custom kernel
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Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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You are not right. I can prove it. The latest droid 3 AOKP and Cm9 builds will boot just fine, with no radio
You should also add Why any other leak releases of atrix 2 ICS will not work on att atrix 2..... Sick of will this work on my att..... About to be like yea we all use it lol JK.....
Ravikirancg said:
DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM9
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Couldn't be more wrong....they both boot just fine and are pretty functional, the problem lies in getting the radio to work.
Ravikirancg said:
Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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Please I emplore you to do your proper research before making incorrect posts like this. I constantly see posts from those who think they know it all, and post idiotic things like this. Nothing makes me madder than someone who does not know how to use google and the search function.
It takes less than 2 min. to make sure you CYA before posting bad information.
Both CM9 and AOKP boot, but with no radio, as has already been said in several posts now. I have tested both.
P.S. most of us devs in here have been working on this very thing for sometime now, and I have not seen you jump in on any of threads discussing the files or how to port or anything.
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Please I emplore you to do your proper research before making incorrect posts like this. I constantly see posts from those who think they know it all, and post idiotic things like this. Nothing makes me madder than someone who does not know how to use google and the search function.
It takes less than 2 min. to make sure you CYA before posting bad information.
Both CM9 and AOKP boot, but with no radio, as has already been said in several posts now. I have tested both.
P.S. most of us devs in here have been working on this very thing for sometime now, and I have not seen you jump in on any of threads discussing the files or how to port or anything.
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Agreed, They actually run extremely well, but obviously I can't stick with them with no radio.
P.S. this is my new best thought for porting, might take some extra build.prop work too. It did not boot for me, but I think we should be able to get it to. Then it is just a question of whether or not the radio will work. there is way more in build.prop on that than I would think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
I think it may work because it really adds the cm9 stuff to our own files rather than add our files to it. maybe not the cleanest way, but it might just work.
hankbizzo5 said:
You should also add Why any other leak releases of atrix 2 ICS will not work on att atrix 2..... Sick of will this work on my att..... About to be like yea we all use it lol JK.....
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WOW, did I really forget to add that? that was kind of one of the main points of this post I'll fix it tomorrow (actually today, I guess it is after midnight), but I need some sleep.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
I think it may work because it really adds the cm9 stuff to our own files rather than add our files to it. maybe not the cleanest way, but it might just work.
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I have tried this method along with every idea that popped in my head of things to alter after following this guide. I have a highly modified build prop that AOKP boots with that I replaced with a lot of our build prop but there are still some things missing as no luck yet
Disclaimer: I am far from being a dev of any sort, so take this post with a large serving of information reading elsewhere. I am not responsible for anything that happens to you or your phone, good or bad.
**If this thread helped you, simply click the "thank you" button and leave a reply if you wish.**
I had a really hard time entering the rooting and ROMming scene when I first got the phone, but I am now relatively confident in my rooting and ROMming. One of the reasons I had a hard time at first was simply not knowing what anything was or meant. Even after a lot of reading, I still didn't feel like I knew what I was doing (I simply followed instructions and did things to my phone aimlessly). Nonetheless, everything I post here can likely be found in a sticky or in another thread, but probably in more technical terms; I simply want this thread to be informative to a new user.
With that being said, here are a few things to help the truly new-to-the-scene guys (and gals) here:
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Definitions:
Root: essentially gives you the ability to access every nook and cranny of your phone and customize lots of stuff.
ROM: kind of the like the operating system on computers; there are many different ones, but find the one suitable for your needs.
imunts: some really cool dude who developed some really cool stuff for our really cool phone; he's done much for us, so he gets his own line here
kernel: the link between your phones software and hardware; comparable to the nervous system of animals by relaying info between the mind and body
flash: basically like installing something on your computer; everything installed or flashed onto electronics has its dangers and risks (and benefits).
recovery: kind of like the "safe mode" on your PC. Incase SHTF, recoveries can be used to save your phone in most cases.
dwitherell: another cool dev who made a really cool ROM by the name of Tweaked
OTA: Over The Air; typically refers to the updates being pushed upon our phones wirelessly from the heavens... or wherever data comes from
Odin: a program used to flash things onto your phone by using your computer; I personally see this as your computer being the brain and your phone being a temporary zombie that takes commands.
CWM (ClockWorkMod Recovery): a custom recovery that must be flashed onto your phone to replace the stock recovery if you want to flash ROMs, backup or restore your phone.
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Links
To Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832040
To UNroot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPocqv9qWyw
Tweaked 3.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895049
Everything you need (all files and instructions) to go FROM BONE STOCK TO ROMMED WITH TWEAKED can be found within those three links above. Please take the time to read/search a bit before asking questions. It's likely been asked 654354 times before and it will even help you learn a lot in the process.
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I have not developed anything for the phones, nor am I taking any credit for making the tutorials or providing the files associated with the above material.
I will update this as I have more time.
Again, if this helped you, just click the "thank you" button or leave a reply. Also, go and let the devs know how much you appreciate their work and time by visiting their threads and thanking them with a reply or something also. Otherwise, we may never get any advances to our software (like I dunno... ICS or something)
Rice923, I'd post links for peeps to go and read. There's some threads already going on that explain to detail how to have the latest greatest phone avalaible ( Tweaked). Seems like there's a batch of people gone through this (modding) and a batch new to the game. Thank you.
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Rice923, I'd post links for peeps to go and read. There's some threads already going on that explain to detail how to have the latest greatest phone avalaible ( Tweaked). Seems like there's a batch of people gone through this (modding) and a batch new to the game. Thank you.
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Yeah go for it. If anything I'll add the links to the OP. I had a few links to YouTube vids on how to root and how to go back to stock unroot (both videos worked everytime I've used them without fail). I forgot who made he video but proper credit will be given to the Guy who made it.
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rice923 said:
Yeah go for it. If anything I'll add the links to the OP. I had a few links to YouTube vids on how to root and how to go back to stock unroot (both videos worked everytime I've used them without fail). I forgot who made he video but proper credit will be given to the Guy who made it.
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kraisydave?
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kraisydave?
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On Topic: yup, linked to his video already. Loved his tutorials.
Off Topic: DW, go away and get back to work on Tweaked 2.3. I can't wait anymore!!!
You mean Tweaked 3.0?
Tweaked 3.0 and Transparent ICS 5.0 Beta
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You mean Tweaked 3.0?
Tweaked 3.0 and Transparent ICS 5.0 Beta
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There was some confusion as to whether or not it would be called 2.3 or 3.0. That post was probably before dwitherell cleared that up.
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There was some confusion as to whether or not it would be called 2.3 or 3.0. That post was probably before dwitherell cleared that up.
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Correct!
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Just thought I'd give this a bump since there seems to have been a lot of development changes since I've last owned my Charge. Hope this will be of good use for new owners from the holidays. Cheers!
I have a video for rooting FP5, it's in my thread in the development section.
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kvswim said:
I have a video for rooting FP5, it's in my thread in the development section.
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Hey,
I'm offering a $20 bounty to whoever would like to have a Skype chat with me (video preferably) and help me root/unlock bootloader/flash a rom. I come from the land of jailbreaking iPhones and this whole root stuff seems a hella more complicated.
Here is my situation:
I am updated to the latest version of android (4.0.4) with the latest OTAs from Verizon. My baseband is the latest VRLG7 version. I would like someone who has gone through this whole process or someone with credibility on XDA.
There is so much compatibility checks that you must do that it is too hard for a newbie like me to risk my $600+ device.
I am running stock TouchWiz with no mods or root or anything.
Please reply and I will PM you shortly.
Thanks!
There is still the option of posting your doubts here on XDA, and paying nothing..
If you are still unsure of what you are doing, then perhaps you should read up on this stuff, and maybe even watch some videos on people doing things like this. Modifications to the firmware of the phone should not be attempted unless you know what you are doing.
I would help you for free. But I'm at work for another five hours. So I'm no help right now.
There's a root tool you can use.
From there, use unlock boot loader app from market.
Install Rom manager. Flash recovery.
Install room as needed. I have files at home to use. I can upload them later.
There are guides all over the forum. Look in the development section.
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Biggest mistake you can make is to pay someone else to walk you thru this and in the process, learn nothing about your new phone.
Everything you need is in these forums. Read all the stickies ... read them again ... and then, again. Rooting and unlocking your bootloader are pretty much one click propositions.
Then, when you are ready to play with root privileges, you will understand modems, kernels, ROMs, rom themes, build.prop tweaks, etc. ... and won't do something stupid, like trying to flash an I9300 ROM to your I535.
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Biggest mistake you can make is to pay someone else to walk you thru this and in the process, learn nothing about your new phone.
Everything you need is in these forums. Read all the stickies ... read them again ... and then, again. Rooting and unlocking your bootloader are pretty much one click propositions.
Then, when you are ready to play with root privileges, you will understand modems, kernels, ROMs, rom themes, build.prop tweaks, etc. ... and won't do something stupid, like trying to flash an I9300 ROM to your I535.
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Yes, everything you need is in these forums, but I could definitely see it being more reassuring, less stressful, and less time consuming to have someone explaining the process as it's happening. Hands on learning and instruction.
The fact that he is willing to pay someone $20 for their time and expertise is pretty cool of him. A lot of users on here just expect tech support for free, lol.
If you still want a live walk through, I'd do it.
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click on the link in my sig and donate the 20.00 to Team Sbrissen Mod to help them get a s3!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908591
I completely understand the fear. I've been rooting and roming since the Original Droid and I still get nervous each time I try doing it with a new phone. However some amazing people here put together some truly impressive tools and tutorials. Follow them step by step and you'll succeed. Destroying the phone to a point where it's not fixable is usually not that easy.
Personally I used this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709 and everything was SUPER easy.
Once you do it a few times you really do lose the fear, in my case it always comes back with each new phone.
Just for the record, I'm very happy with my S3 and the only reason I even rooted was to make it not turn on when the home button was pressed. I had it in a pouch and it kept getting pressed in my pocket.
Wow. Just a few hours and I got PM's from people showing me how to do it all for free. You guys are truly amazing. It's so great that we have such a large community on XDA with such helpful and supportive people.
My new reasons that people should switch to android.
1. Great OS with endless customization
2. A rock star community of wonderful people
Thanks so much guys.
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Welcome to freedom , just read up because everything you need to know is either in this forum/YouTube or you can Google it .if you need help I can helpyou with the basics.(for free)first golden rule after you root is make a backup of your system using cwm..ez-recovery.can't stress enuff how that will get you out of trouble and head aches.all I can say is read read and read more....
To unlock the bootlaoder make sure u get ez unlocker v1.2 i heard the later version arent working right if u want i have a copy of the v1.2 us loaded in my dropbox this is a link of it
http://db.tt/4zyQrkwa
Oh and back up ur imei
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Wondering about root doesn't seem we are getting much development on our u11 life
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Wondering about root doesn't seem we are getting much development on our u11 life
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Wondering the same thing or maybe it take time to get us root...it was easy to unlock bootloader for me no problem...but twrp is a no good on T-Mobile U Life[emoji22] as of right now for me anyway
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The lack of releases at this time is probably related to this phone being less than ten days old.
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The lack of releases at this time is probably related to this phone being less than ten days old.
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Exactly haha. Not sure why people are jumping the gun on development for this phone already. My Moto g5 plus took longer than this from its initial release to get development going. And now that phone is very active in the community.
Anyway, point is, just give it some time like this guy said. The phone isn't exactly a flagship anyway. And the Android one version hasn't even been released here yet.
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Exactly haha. Not sure why people are jumping the gun on development for this phone already. My Moto g5 plus took longer than this from its initial release to get development going. And now that phone is very active in the community.
Anyway, point is, just give it some time like this guy said. The phone isn't exactly a flagship anyway. And the Android one version hasn't even been released here yet.
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thanks for the comments. how long have you been in the developer scene with HTC. Also nobody is jumping the gun. We aren't allowed to go to devs and ask for eta's so I just made this thread so they may see and hopefully give some love to this phone. All I need is root and a recovery I can do the rest.
Look on the bright side, pixel 2 been out for a month. And even we are slow on development. You'll get root and probably a few roms, it will take time though.
Also the fact that bootloader is unlockable when phone cost less than $400 is kinda big deal
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thanks for the comments. how long have you been in the developer scene with HTC. Also nobody is jumping the gun. We aren't allowed to go to devs and ask for eta's so I just made this thread so they may see and hopefully give some love to this phone. All I need is root and a recovery I can do the rest.
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I could ask you the same question. If you've been in it so long yourself, why don't you figure this problem out yourself? Hah.
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I could ask you the same question. If you've been in it so long yourself, why don't you figure this problem out yourself? Hah.
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Very well put. I only usually get the flagship HTC phones but this time I chose this since it was T-Mobile specific. And I waited to long to get u11 so using this till next HTC flagship comes. I look forward to seeing you around.
HTC phones from my experience don't take too long to get root. They average about a month or so. Keep in mind my last HTC was the EVO LTE.
You don't need a custom recovery for root.
You can use Magisk to patch a stock boot.img for your device (for example, one found here) and flash the patched image via fastboot. Then you're rooted, and you didn't even need TWRP.
I won't be purchasing this device, so unfortunately I can't build a TWRP for it (that and I'm retiring in 8 posts). If someone else wants to pursue building it, I'm willing to offer minimal assistance.
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You don't need a custom recovery for root.
You can use Magisk to patch a stock boot.img for your device (for example, one found here and flash the patched image via fastboot. Then you're rooted, and you didn't even need TWRP.
I won't be purchasing this device, so unfortunately I can't build a TWRP for it (that and I'm retiring in 8 posts). If someone else wants to pursue building it, I'm willing to offer minimal assistance.
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Thanks so much for the info. I'm on to something now. About building it what can I use as a pre-built kernel or will I have to wait for source to drop? Sorry for using your last posts to help us
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Thanks so much for the info. I'm on to something now. About building it what can I use as a pre-built kernel or will I have to wait for source to drop? Sorry for using your last posts to help us
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There's a thread on xda about building TWRP. I've never built TWRP before, but I know about using build environments and whatnot. Google "how to build TWRP" I believe haha, as simple as it sounds it should come up in the top few results.
Anyway, I think you and I should help each other out here like you said. I'm using an older imac since I sold my old PC. It only has 4gb ram, but I'm going to install Ubuntu tomorrow on the Mac as a partition, and then hopefully I can get a build environment going quickly and start work.
What are you doing so far? Are you able to build too? Or maybe we can both research and bounce ideas off each other while I try it out. Whatever you prefer. Just PM me I guess.
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There's a thread on xda about building TWRP. I've never built TWRP before, but I know about using build environments and whatnot. Google "how to build TWRP" I believe haha, as simple as it sounds it should come up in the top few results.
Anyway, I think you and I should help each other out here like you said. I'm using an older imac since I sold my old PC. It only has 4gb ram, but I'm going to install Ubuntu tomorrow on the Mac as a partition, and then hopefully I can get a build environment going quickly and start work.
What are you doing so far? Are you able to build too? Or maybe we can both research and bounce ideas off each other while I try it out. Whatever you prefer. Just PM me I guess.
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I can build I have a great machine and all ready downloaded the source. The only difference in building twrp for a new device is we have to make our own files from scratch. And it would be nice if we had an ruu to restore back from if things don't go well during testing. We can figure it out. Help is always good more people trying different things usually gets results faster.
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I can build I have a great machine and all ready downloaded the source. The only difference in building twrp for a new device is we have to make our own files from scratch. And it would be nice if we had an ruu to restore back from if things don't go well during testing. We can figure it out. Help is always good more people trying different things usually gets results faster.
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I read somewhere about an emulator sorta program for testing your TWRP build without messing up your device.
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I can build I have a great machine and all ready downloaded the source. The only difference in building twrp for a new device is we have to make our own files from scratch. And it would be nice if we had an ruu to restore back from if things don't go well during testing. We can figure it out. Help is always good more people trying different things usually gets results faster.
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Did you try that magisk rooting (without TWRP) method? I haven't tried it yet.
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You don't need a custom recovery for root.
You can use Magisk to patch a stock boot.img for your device (for example, one found here) and flash the patched image via fastboot. Then you're rooted, and you didn't even need TWRP.
I won't be purchasing this device, so unfortunately I can't build a TWRP for it (that and I'm retiring in 8 posts). If someone else wants to pursue building it, I'm willing to offer minimal assistance.
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Happen to know where there may be stock boot.img files for the Life that are free? I don't want to pay for a membership on that site you linked..
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Did you try that magisk rooting (without TWRP) method? I haven't tried it yet.
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Happen to know where there may be stock boot.img files for the Life that are free? I don't want to pay for a membership on that site you linked..
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that's gonna be the hard part. Finding a boot.Img for T-Mobile version. There's no links to software anywhere that I've seen. We may be stuck waiting for an update just to get the files we need
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that's gonna be the hard part. Finding a boot.Img for T-Mobile version. There's no links to software anywhere that I've seen. We may be stuck waiting for an update just to get the files we need
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Yeah I think we're at a road block right now
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Yeah I think we're at a road block right now
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I'm not giving up I'm still gonna try whatever I can on my end.
Hopefully something good or I'll end up with a bricked device till ruu comes
I would love to eventually see a ROM that gives the T-Mobile variant a similar appeal as the Android One version. I bought the U11 Life as a backup to my Pixel 2 (and to benefit from T-Mobile's Carrier Freedom promo, as well) and I was very surprised as to how much I actually enjoyed using the phone!
Brought me back to the days when I had the One M7.
Just so everyone is aware...... Once you unlock your bootloader you can then go super CID, once you are super CID you can flash ANY GSM boot.img , so there is no roadblock on that end. The roadblock is no custom recovery, if we had a custom recovery then we are open to a world of wonders and amazement. So get to work......