SlimBean 4.2.2 interest. - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

Slim is now working stable on the hercules( a close cousin the the skyrocket) I have been posting slim over on the hercules side for a long time now. I'm just wondering if anyone is interested in a build for the skyrocket? I know there was a problem before but this rom sure is smooth on the hercules. I would of course need testers because I don't have this device. I'm just wanting to share because I don't see any new builds in skyrocket forums. If I get enough interest I will start building for ya'll as well as hercules.

I'm sure there is. There was a lot of action in our old slim bean threads.
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onlychevys said:
Slim is now working stable on the hercules( a close cousin the the skyrocket) I have been posting slim over on the hercules side for a long time now. I'm just wondering if anyone is interested in a build for the skyrocket? I know there was a problem before but this rom sure is smooth on the hercules. I would of course need testers because I don't have this device. I'm just wanting to share because I don't see any new builds in skyrocket forums. If I get enough interest I will start building for ya'll as well as hercules.
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Count me in! I'm a big fan of Slim builds. Thanks so much, in advance. I'm no dev and I really appreciate what you guys do for us.

Count me in as interested.

Definitely interested. I'm still on 4.1.2 because of slim bean.
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I ran the 4.1.2 Slim for a long time and only recently changed. I'm certain there would be lots of interest in a 4.2.2 version of Slim.

OK, I am building now. Please pm me for the link and I will reply with the link when done and uploaded. I don't post untested roms so I need testers that know there way around the skyrocket. I know it works great on my hercules but the same old I am not responsible for a bricked phone etc. etc. I'm guessing prbassplayer had a lot to do with fixing the issue's on this. I don't take any credit for this rom other than figuring out how to compile for our devices. All thanks go to the slim team!
EDIT:If this thread turns into more of a developement thread then by all means mod's please move to proper place and please don't throw rocks at me lol

Why not just shoot the start to finish build instructions to the rookie thread too. That way others can build if they feel up to it.
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Good idea, I will do that!

onlychevys said:
Good idea, I will do that!
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Appreciated man I got PAC synced I may have to grab slim too lol.
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mtdew said:
Appreciated man I got PAC synced I may have to grab slim too lol.
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^This guy. Full of great ideas. It may be high time I start trying to compile.

mrfeuss said:
^This guy. Full of great ideas. It may be high time I start trying to compile.
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Never enough people joining in man I say go for it.
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mrfeuss said:
^This guy. Full of great ideas. It may be high time I start trying to compile.
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don't do it man.
I started a few days ago
Now all i do is build and git and sync and my wife hates me.

mtdew said:
Never enough people joining in man I say go for it.
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epapsiou said:
don't do it man.
I started a few days ago
Now all i do is build and git and sync and my wife hates me.
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Hmm. Conflicting responses. mtdew has more "Thanks" I just don't know! lol

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Hmm. Conflicting responses. mtdew has more "Thanks" I just don't know! lol
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Dudes right it could consume your soul my wife hates me for it too lol.
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Someone builds it or ports it I'll use it. I loved slim with 4.1.2
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spitfire2425 said:
Someone builds it or ports it I'll use it. I loved slim with 4.1.2
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Again, if you are interested in testing then pm me. I will not post a rom that is untested.

So far so good on slim bean 4.2.2...
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Hey Chevy just pm'd u. I'd like to test that slim out...

I just sent out the link to everyone, sorry for the delay. If all is well with this rom I will start a new thread in dev section or maybe even have this one moved if the mod's prefere.

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[Q] Looking for testers

Hi, I know I haven't contributed much to the community, so I decided to work on something.
I've just finished building a MIUI port for our phone, but I haven't tested it yet. Still in the process of making a nandroid backup right now.
So I was wondering if anybody wanted to help test this or help fix bugs and whatnot. I can't guarantee that this won't brick your phone, sorry.
So... is anybody interested?
Dude, if you post this over in the development part of the forum you'll have a bunch.
Isn't MIUI based off CM?
Also, I'd be willing to test.. as long as I can recover my phone in event of failure. Haha.
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Dude, if you post this over in the development part of the forum you'll have a bunch.
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Haha alright, will do
Shadeslayers said:
Isn't MIUI based off CM?
Also, I'd be willing to test.. as long as I can recover my phone in event of failure. Haha.
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well so far... testing hasn't been great... I'm just getting a black screen... I'll PM you the link though. If you have any experience with roms, maybe you can help me out.
Whats a maui waui port? Sorry,noob here
Don't we need cm7 first for miui? Or something along those lines.
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mossination said:
Don't we need cm7 first for miui? Or something along those lines.
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That's what I was saying haha.
Also, thanks. I'm no dev but I have messed around with building ROM'S. I'll look at it tomorrow morning and see if I can get it to boot.
EDIT: I don't see a pm, could be because I'm on the xda app falling asleep though. Shoot me one and I'll see what I can figure out.
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WOW! I was just in the middle of porting when I saw this thread haha. We could possibly collaborate when I am done
Cm7 is too buggy to get MIUI good enough for daily. I suggest waiting for cm9 to work on miui 4.0 or even better one of the real time miui porter is working on the T-Mobile sgs2
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XAviierG said:
Cm7 is too buggy to get MIUI good enough for daily. I suggest waiting for cm9 to work on miui 4.0 or even better one of the real time miui porter is working on the T-Mobile sgs2
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Wait.. What? Some one new is working on MIUI for tmo?
That would be great news.
Do you still have your skyrocket?
Working on this now will be a waste of time as within a month or so, everybody will be turning to ICS
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That's what I was saying haha.
Also, thanks. I'm no dev but I have messed around with building ROM'S. I'll look at it tomorrow morning and see if I can get it to boot.
EDIT: I don't see a pm, could be because I'm on the xda app falling asleep though. Shoot me one and I'll see what I can figure out.
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Check out my thread on the development section. The link's there.
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billydroid said:
Wait.. What? Some one new is working on MIUI for tmo?
That would be great news.
Do you still have your skyrocket?
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That's what MIUImod tweeted yes and naw not anymore
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skyrocket cm9 is "in the oven"

I got a confirmation from cyanogenmod that the skyrocket and t989 are being worked on currently. So as long as they don't decide to drop us we will be getting cm9 at some point in the future. I posted on a Google+ post of theirs. If you have Google+ go to their page, and then their post for "status update on nightly builds". You will see someone mention the t989 them me mention the skyrocketing followed by a confirmation.
Sorry no link, I'm on my phone and its a pain in the butt.
Just saw this. Thanks.
Why didn't the team member from
Cm working on it reach out to jomeister or even xboarder
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droid512 said:
Why didn't the team member from
Cm working on it reach out to jomeister or even xboarder
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Why are you asking such an irrelevant question? You may as wl ask the CM team yourself now.
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droid512 said:
Why didn't the team member from
Cm working on it reach out to jomeister or even xboarder
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Probably trying to avoid the storm it would create of eta's and nonsensical threads its best they hold off till they are ready for us skyrocket users
people who live in glass houses sink ships
Hell f#ck#ng yeah! I just +1'd your comment Josh.
Thank you for sharing this info!
Sweet!
Cant wait to see this come out!!
Awesome!
Nice. And I was just starting to lose hope for this phone last night
Woot! Also +1 your comment
skrambled said:
Hell f#ck#ng yeah! I just +1'd your comment Josh.
Thank you for sharing this info!
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Woot! Also +1 your comment
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Thanks! I'm excited!
Add me on Google+ if you want. Everyone knows my real name now LOL.
I hate to be a noob aking this (sorry about that), but what exactly is "cm9"
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I hate to be a noob aking this (sorry about that), but what exactly is "cm9"
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D:!!!!! How do you not know?? It's like the best handgun ever!
Kidding, Google cyanogenmod, its their mod for ice cream sandwich
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But don't get your hopes up just yet.. most stuff won't actually work... data, camera, wireless, sdcard mount and stuff right?
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But don't get your hopes up just yet.. most stuff won't actually work... data, camera, wireless, sdcard mount and stuff right?
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you're exactly right.
notfuzzi said:
But don't get your hopes up just yet.. most stuff won't actually work... data, camera, wireless, sdcard mount and stuff right?
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The cyanogenmod guys are pros, they have done this sort of thing for tons of phones. They will get it down for sure, granted they may have to wait for stock ics from Samsung to button a few things up.
I'm guessing it'll be a couple months before they release a beta.
And may not start official work on it until 4.0 is release for the T989 or 727.
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I'm guessing it'll be a couple months before they release a beta.
And may not start official work on it until 4.0 is release for the T989 or 727.
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They have alpha daily builds for the original s2. And yes I wouldn't expect anything for a month or two. They admitted it being behind where the s2 development is.
Keep an eye out HERE for nightly CM9 builds.
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I got a confirmation from cyanogenmod that the skyrocket and t989 are being worked on currently. So as long as they don't decide to drop us we will be getting cm9 at some point in the future. I posted on a Google+ post of theirs. If you have Google+ go to their page, and then their post for "status update on nightly builds". You will see someone mention the t989 them me mention the skyrocketing followed by a confirmation.
Sorry no link, I'm on my phone and its a pain in the butt.
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Sorry for asking, but when you get home can you post a link to this announcement I can't seem to find it

CM Looking for Skyrocket Maintainer

The CyanogenMod team just announced on G+ that they are looking for a dev to work on the Skyrocket for CM9. https://plus.google.com/100733530850945351575/posts/7NrngMEMGnE
I posted this in Jomeister's Isotope thread already, but thought it would get more exposure here and someone would step forward.
If I was a dev I would be all over it
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I nominate jomeister
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BaconStep said:
I nominate jomeister
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I hope him, topprospect or doc jump on this
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I nominate xboarder, as much as he is shunned here kinda, he is awesome and I think he could really help
Excellent.
wasabiman123 said:
I nominate xboarder, as much as he is shunned here kinda, he is awesome and I think he could really help
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His phone is bricked.
iandr0idos said:
His phone is bricked.
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Yes. But he also did work on it when his first skyrocket was bricked. Either way he is an asset.
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He can use JTag.
iandr0idos said:
His phone is bricked.
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Rocketing on Juggernaut¡
iandr0idos said:
His phone is bricked.
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He doesn't have a donate page to get a new one? I am sure people would be more than happy to donate a skyrocket if it means CM9 for our phone.
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He doesn't have a donate page to get a new one? I am sure people would be more than happy to donate a skyrocket if it means CM9 for our phone.
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and then another group would be more than happy to flame him if he comes back like nrm "haha" ing when he bricked his phone or daniel02 whatever.
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He doesn't have a donate page to get a new one? I am sure people would be more than happy to donate a skyrocket if it means CM9 for our phone.
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I don't think he even cares to get a new one. He's done with the skyrocket. Besides I don't think many people here would even consider donating to him after everything that happened.
R4INS said:
I don't think he even cares to get a new one. He's done with the skyrocket. Besides I don't think many people here would even consider donating to him after everything that happened.
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you mean others flaming him from the get go.
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you mean others flaming him from the get go.
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No, and in all honesty we shouldn't discuss it in the open. Someone might shoot us. You can pm me if you like, or we can leave it at that.
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No, and in all honesty we shouldn't discuss it in the open. Someone might shoot us. You can pm me if you like, or we can leave it at that.
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I was there before all the threads were deleted so I know firsthand and I wouldnt trust your account over my firsthand because I know some people are trying to rewrite what happened since they can since all the threads have been deleted
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I was there before all the threads were deleted so I know firsthand and I wouldnt trust your account over my firsthand because I know some people are trying to rewrite what happened since they can since all the threads have been deleted
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I saw it all as well, I'm not trying to rewrite history or put him on blast here. If I wanted to do that I would have said my peace here in the open. All I meant was if you wanted my opinion on the matter then you could pm me.
XBoarder did a fantastic job, his was one of the first ROMS I used
I think seanscreamz should be nominated - 3 different Skyrocket ROMS plus CM7.2 -- who else can say they can do all that.
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MokujinX5 said:
XBoarder did a fantastic job, his was one of the first ROMS I used
I think seanscreamz should be nominated - 3 different Skyrocket ROMS plus CM7.2 -- who else can say they can do all that.
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While I love seans work I'm not sure of his credentials when it comes to building code from scratch. His cyanotouchwiz was just a themed and modified version of cm7.2 done by slayher and da_g. I'm currently running one of Sean's roms right now so please in no way think I am putting him down. I just don't know if he is up for the task. He may be though!
I'm with Jo, top, and Eugene honestly. They are the only ones I know of right now that are working on compiling from source right now.
just one question. Why are people nominating devs to a project?
Isnt this between cm team and devs who contact them?
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just one question. Why are people nominating devs to a project?
Isnt this between cm team and devs who contact them?
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I was kidding when i said i was nominating. Though i do think jomeister and a number of other devs should be apart of this
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[ROM] re:Cruitment (in development) AOKP Legacy Stormz ICS 4.0.4

Well Legacy Stormz is a temporary name lol. I have decided to try to develop a ROM my own, but I am looking for a little assistance.
FIRST BUILD WILL BE BASED OFF OF BUILD 37 OF AOKP
Needed currently >>>>>
* A small batch of DEDICATED testers for the first build.
* A custom wallpaper maker/TWEAKER of sorts seeing as I have a somewhat base design
* A few to collaborate with who could possibly up the WOW of the ROM, something I know in my beginning state cannot do.
This will be my first ROM, Port or whatever it is you may want to label it.
I am going to try my best to push out updates to go along with the AOKP Builds
If you are interested please PM me, and let me know exactly what you are interested in doing so I could PM you links and such as they come, any and all help is greatly appreciated.
This is the starting thread so I am not placing Details just yet, but please bear in mind, I have a somewhat flashy imagination and will try my best to allow it to reflect in this ROM and hopefully my and my future teams work will be appreciated
SCREENIES
Gonna grab this lil beauty
CHANGELOG
Gonna save this one too
KingVekxin said:
Well Legacy Stormz is a temporary name lol. I have decided to try to develop a ROM my own, but I am looking for a little assistance.
Needed currently >>>>>
* A small batch of DEDICATED testers for the first build.
* A custom wallpaper maker/TWEAKER of sorts seeing as I have a somewhat base design
* A few to collaborate with who could possibly up the WOW of the ROM, something I know in my beginning state cannot do.
This will be my first ROM, Port or whatever it is you may want to label it.
I am going to try my best to push out updates to go along with the AOKP Builds
If you are interested please PM me, and let me know exactly what you are interested in doing so I could PM you links and such as they come, any and all help is greatly appreciated.
This is the starting thread so I am not placing Details just yet, but please bear in mind, I have a somewhat flashy imagination and will try my best to allow it to reflect in this ROM and hopefully my and my future teams work will be appreciated
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Myself and another member were going to work on porting aokp builds but we kinda stopped talking. If you're interested I'd be glad to help not only testing but developing as well. I'm not much of a themer but I'm looking to learn better.
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Myself and another member were going to work on porting aokp builds but we kinda stopped talking. If you're interested I'd be glad to help not only testing but developing as well. I'm not much of a themer but I'm looking to learn better.
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Thanks Faux, i will be sure to keep in contact and let you know of progress through pm, is that the best way to contact you? I look forward to working with you on this project.
Woot! Yay! More ICS roms to run. Thanks King!
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Thanks Faux, i will be sure to keep in contact and let you know of progress through pm, is that the best way to contact you? I look forward to working with you on this project.
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Sounds good man. And yeah pm is probably best .
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rich_jen4ever said:
Woot! Yay! More ICS roms to run. Thanks King!
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you are welcome im trying to get a little something together its booting up to the lock screen so far, so im making great progress.
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you are welcome im trying to get a little something together its booting up to the lock screen so far, so im making great progress.
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Hey, could you please move this thread into another section... You cant really open a thread for a ROM that is coming sometime in the future...
scott.hart.bti said:
Hey, could you please move this thread into another section... You cant really open a thread for a ROM that is coming sometime in the future...
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it is actually, me and fauxaffliction are working on it now really.
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it is actually, me and fauxaffliction are working on it now really.
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lol... your not understanding... but ok.
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lol... your not understanding... but ok.
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yea u mean if we're not releasing TODAY, correct?
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Hey, could you please move this thread into another section... You cant really open a thread for a ROM that is coming sometime in the future...
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This does need moved or locked until it's complete.
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How bout you let me teach you how to build from source then you won't have these porting issues. Ports are nice when you don't have source, but when you have it, why not use it? If it's going to just be straight AOKP, I have no issues helping.
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How bout you let me teach you how to build from source then you won't have these porting issues. Ports are nice when you don't have source, but when you have it, why not use it? If it's going to just be straight AOKP, I have no issues helping.
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I want in on it. Please
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NunHugger said:
How bout you let me teach you how to build from source then you won't have these porting issues. Ports are nice when you don't have source, but when you have it, why not use it? If it's going to just be straight AOKP, I have no issues helping.
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Well yea Nun that would be greatly appreciated I've been here long enough and would love to contribute in some way.
it would be AOKP but of course with my own touch and what not, maybe I could have a little team together to help with some minor tweaks, so yea that lesson would be greatly appreciated.
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Gents we wanna keep it open the thread? I say yerp...
Would be willing to help with any testing needed.
My question to you is this...
What are you planning on bringing to the table? Wallpapers? Theming touches? Are you planning on providing additional tweaks in you package? What's your plan?
If it's just a unique visual experience, why not focus your pursuit on a theme for one of the ports that are out there?
I will gladly teach you how to build from source...but just really think that a lot of people are jumping onto the "dev" wagon before they have a grasp on what it takes. I guess you will never learn if you don't try...but I think that having a solid grasp on what is needed before you begin is the best plan.
Not trying to discourage...quite the contrary. Just trying to give a little input from a person who has been around the block...once or twice.

[Q] SlimBean vs. CM10 SuperLite

I've been using CM10 superlite for a while now, and was thinking of trying slimbean out. From what I read in the thread, they sound pretty similar, so I was wondering if anyone who has tried both wouldn't mind letting me know of the key differences between them, and whether or not the differences are big enough to be worth switching? Thanks!
There is a Jelly Bean discussion thread specifically for questions like this, and "best" threads are not allowed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738817
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There is a Jelly Bean discussion thread specifically for questions like this, and "best" threads are not allowed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738817
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thanks but I'm not asking which is better, just what the differences are between them.
I bet if you read the first three pages and the last three pages of each thread you would know:thumbup:
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I bet if you read the first three pages and the last three pages of each thread you would know:thumbup:
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no luck, I already tried that. Thanks anyway though.
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no luck, I already tried that. Thanks anyway though.
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Ah, OK then flash them:thumbup:
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onearmedscissor said:
I've been using CM10 superlite for a while now, and was thinking of trying slimbean out. From what I read in the thread, they sound pretty similar, so I was wondering if anyone who has tried both wouldn't mind letting me know of the key differences between them, and whether or not the differences are big enough to be worth switching? Thanks!
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Just make a backup, you can always go back
I've tried both, I prefer SlimBean to be honest.
But be sure BOTH are good, It's a personnal preference.
Also both can support CM10 kernel so :good: to both devs to let us many options!
Both are similar and great
Well slim bean is slimmer than Superlite... So if you want as bare bones as possible. I've tried both and I like slim bean more too. Although now I'm on liquid r2.
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You guys are walking a fine line on best thread now
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I would say the more gapps you load and the more you use your phone between both roms it wouldn't matter...either rom is going to give you the same end result basically
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I ...either rom is going to give you the same end result basically
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That ^
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onearmedscissor said:
I've been using CM10 superlite for a while now, and was thinking of trying slimbean out. From what I read in the thread, they sound pretty similar, so I was wondering if anyone who has tried both wouldn't mind letting me know of the key differences between them, and whether or not the differences are big enough to be worth switching? Thanks!
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Ive tried them both and I believe it depends on your phone. I have a Samsung Infuse 4g. The CM 10 didnt seem to run as smoothly or as fast as SB. Of course, that was before the "stable" version was released the other day. Slim seems to take up a lot less space (memorywise too.) Im pretty happy with the bean (running 2.9)
Basically they are the same. Im no developer so I dont test all the intricacies but I would consider myself above novice level.

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