Situation is:
Phone One: HTC Touch running Danish O/S Windows Mobile 6 Professional CE OS 5.2.1238 (Build 17745.0.2.3)
Phone Two: HTC Cruise running English O/S Windows Mobile 6 Professional CE OS 5.2.1623 (build 18129.0.4.5)
Word completion on #1 appears as a list of words above the keyboard (much nicer - not least because it works!)
Word completion on #2 appears as a black bar above the keyboard.
On #1 word completion works and it stores and suggests my words (except words containing any of the Danish letters, but that's ok).
On #2 I have tried to un-check all options concerning auto completion but I have not managed to get rid of the black bar - it appears no matter the settings. Actually, I'm not even sure this black bar is a word completion tool. I don't know what it is cause it does not seem to serve any useful purpose (apart from taking up space on the screen). It never suggests any words, but only copies whatever I'm writing, sometimes in two versions: one with a small starting letter and one with a capital starting letter. If I tap the x I get a label "Add My Word". If I enter something I don't see that it's added anywhere, cause it never suggests this word if I start typing it again. I have conducted all these little tests with both English and Danish words (without the special characters, though) cause I have no idea in which language the dictionary is.
But... I could live without any word-completion. Thing is, the black bar has another and worse problem that I can't live with: It does not recognize one of the Danish characters "å". The other two "æø" work fine.
When entering a word with the unrecognized letter - like "håb" (Hope) - the Danish character is not appearing in the black bar and the resulting word in the application in which I'm writing is "åHb". The Danish character is always placed at the beginning of the word it is a part of.
That was the background info. Questions are:
Does anyone know to turn off this annoying black bar?
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Does anyone recognize the letter-switching-"feature" and know of a solution?
Late breaking news
Ok, so I'm talking to myself ... but who knows - if someone else experience something like or is equally confused about input settings, perhaps this might help them, too.
I have tried to find out more about the "black bar" and come to realize these "late breaking news":
Options/Settings relating to the Keyboard (Keyboard/Word Completion tab) has no effect on anything.
The black bar is related to the Touch Keyboard and appears even if the Touch keyboard is not the selected input method and even if word completion (and all other "typing assistance" functions) is turned off for the Touch Keyboard.
Turning on Word Completion in Options/XT9 Settings for the Touch Keyboard also affects typing with the Keyboard.
Thus, turning on Word Completion for the Touch Keyboard and using the Keyboard as input method, word completion actually works and it is possible to add words - even words containing the two (out of three) Danish characters that work.
So, word completion as such works (allthough it seems that the settings and effects of these settings are kind of mixed up and criss-crossing between the various input methods) but the one Danish character still does not work - it is still placed at the beginning of the word it is in, as described in the first post.
To remove the annoying BLACK BAR...
To Get rid of word prediction window Edit Following Registry:
[HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e0010409]
Change Default Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll --> \windows\compime.dll
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Layout Text : eT9 IME change to Layout Text : XT9 IME --> COMP IME
speedtest test
oops wrong post.
worked perfectly, i might have lost my mind with that bar, it's so pointless.
Noobie posting with certain trepidation (just watched the video).
Got the Transformer and would like to use the Keyboard for Japanese input when docked. Settings has support for Japanese as system language but in the Language & Keyboard section there isn't anything for Japanese support.
I have OpenWnn Flick and can type Japanese on the screen, but not from the keyboard (also the OpenWnn Flick pulls out a huge orange plate when flicking).
Does anyone know how I can write Japanese using the keyboard?
Solution (sort of)
After a lot of experimentation, I have come up with a workable solution to my own problem (insert preferred snarky remark here). I post it here in case someone else runs into this problem and is doing a search.
Install OpenWnn/Flick, have the Transformer docked and select OpenWnn/Flick as your "input device". Try typing. You should see the regular alphanumeric letters appearing. Now touch the screen so the cursor locater (a yellowish arrowhead) appears. Type again. If you get underlined alphanumeric letters appearing you are on track. Now enter Shift+Space bar, type again. This time you'll get 日本語入力。So it is doable, not the prettiest of solutions and there are severe limitations for editing during input.
Any news on that front, new applications that work better?
I'm interested by the transformer but lack of smooth Japanese input may be a deal breaker... And I don't really want to buy a Japanese version because I heard the updates are lagging.
It works flawlessly with OpenWnn, I use FlickWnn. You need to have it docked. Then you tap the screen so you get a cursor with a green arrow once you have that you are ready for input. If you begin writing now you get English (for Japanese) and you will recognize that because input is underlined and there are suggestions below the screen. If you now enter Shift+Space bar you should get a Hiragana あ on the status bar. You are now ready to enter Japanese.
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I'm Spanish, and so is my keyboard dock. However, I often type in English with it. Under HC, it wasn't an issue, I used Asus Keyboard in Spanish, and since word suggestion was disabled while using the keyboard, I lost no functionality. This is important because I need to set the Input Method to Asus Keyboard (Spanish) to get the right key layout for my dock keyboard (It mostly changes where some symbols are, such as the @ symbol, and punctuation, on top of adding dead keys for accented letters)
Come ICS, and everything works exactly the same. However, now ICS includes auto-spellcheck independent of the word suggestions, and uses the language of the keyboard to identify the language of what you typed. This means that while I'm typing, and getting the right keyboard layout via the Asus Keyboard (Spanish), every word gets a wiggly red line underneath (and performance suffers a little). When I change to Asus Keyboard (English), I can use auto-spellcheck, BUT it's cumbersome to type (mainly punctuation and symbols).
If there a way to tell the tablet that it should use the Spanish keyboard layout while using another language for spellcheck? Is there any free or paid Input Method app to help me here? I'm not rooted, but feel free to suggest some root only apps and solutions if it's what it takes.
Vyrlokar said:
I'm Spanish, and so is my keyboard dock. However, I often type in English with it. Under HC, it wasn't an issue, I used Asus Keyboard in Spanish, and since word suggestion was disabled while using the keyboard, I lost no functionality. This is important because I need to set the Input Method to Asus Keyboard (Spanish) to get the right key layout for my dock keyboard (It mostly changes where some symbols are, such as the @ symbol, and punctuation, on top of adding dead keys for accented letters)
Come ICS, and everything works exactly the same. However, now ICS includes auto-spellcheck independent of the word suggestions, and uses the language of the keyboard to identify the language of what you typed. This means that while I'm typing, and getting the right keyboard layout via the Asus Keyboard (Spanish), every word gets a wiggly red line underneath (and performance suffers a little). When I change to Asus Keyboard (English), I can use auto-spellcheck, BUT it's cumbersome to type (mainly punctuation and symbols).
If there a way to tell the tablet that it should use the Spanish keyboard layout while using another language for spellcheck? Is there any free or paid Input Method app to help me here? I'm not rooted, but feel free to suggest some root only apps and solutions if it's what it takes.
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Same problem here. The only custom ROM which works well with my PT dock is Revolver 4
I really like the jelly bean keyboard. I just miss one feature: after writing a word, for example a name, it is not possible to make the first letter uppercase by pressing the shift button. So you have to erase the word or try to get the cursor to the exact position. Both takes plenty of time especially in non english languages.
Is there any keyboard app which has this feature?
pdppdp said:
I really like the jelly bean keyboard. I just miss one feature: after writing a word, for example a name, it is not possible to make the first letter uppercase by pressing the shift button. So you have to erase the word or try to get the cursor to the exact position. Both takes plenty of time especially in non english languages.
Is there any keyboard app which has this feature?
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Generally speaking I think that you have to press the shift button before you press the first letter of the name, not afterwords (I'm pretty sure you already know that, but since I don't have jb I don't know how it works there). Apart from that in my humble opinion Smartkeyboard pro is the best keyboard replacement app. It's not free (link to trial version) but it gets the names uppercase and has tons of languages. If you don't want to pay you can try swype you can either type as usual or swype over the letters and you can make a letter uppercase by simply swyping over the shift button - and it offers several languages.
I would recommend SwiftKey. You don't need to do much besides just type letters... You don't even have to hit space. It'll auto add spaces, capitals, punctuation, as well as the BEST (not opinion, this is fact) predictions on any android keyboard.
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[Q] The single&double quote key on the dock not working? -and a bit on accented chars
Yesterday I did a factory reset on my TF700 (JB 4.1.1). Today I was typing and found that the single/double quote key was not working on my dock keyboard. My settings where Asus Dutch Keyboard. When I switch to Asus English Keyboard or the Android Dutch or English keyboard the key is working. When I use the screen keyboard with the Asus Dutch keyboard setting I can also type a ".
So it is only when I use the dock keyboard that it is not working. Maybe somebody can shed some light on the issue?
Another question on the docking keyboard. Is there a way to type symbol like ê or ë etc on the docking keyboard?
Edit:
Both issues have been fixed in the 10.4.4.23 firmware update. The double quote key is working again and a accented character can be typed for instance by typing a ["] and an [e] in sequence. Unfortunately this is not working when typing in a browser. But in the email app it is working.
ZoldarVL said:
Yesterday I did a factory reset on my TF700 (JB 4.1.1). Today I was typing and found that the single/double quote key was not working on my dock keyboard. My settings where Asus Dutch Keyboard. When I switch to Asus English Keyboard or the Android Dutch or English keyboard the key is working. When I use the screen keyboard with the Asus Dutch keyboard setting I can also type a ".
So it is only when I use the dock keyboard that it is not working. Maybe somebody can shed some light on the issue?
Another question on the docking keyboard. Is there a way to type symbol like ê or ë etc on the docking keyboard?
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Well, you found out the issue yourself: it is dependent on the type of underlying ASUS keyboard you choose. Well-known by now, to be honest, but your issue is right there.
MartyHulskemper said:
Well, you found out the issue yourself: it is dependent on the type of underlying ASUS keyboard you choose. Well-known by now, to be honest, but your issue is right there.
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Couldn't find it on the forum that's why I raised the question. Probably my bad search skills Thanx for answering. Now it's waiting for Asus to fix this.
Eh? It worked in .18.. I specifically remember the @ and " keys being fixed in it.. Dafuq Asus?
Why not just use the US keyboard? All keyboards in the Netherlands have been the US QWERTY keyboard since well before the turn of the millenium. The old original Dutch keyboard became redundant decades ago.
(I don't think we've ever used it to begin with. We're too busy running after the US.. Which for once i'm glad for, as the original NL keyboard was crap.)
ShadowLea said:
Eh? It worked in .18.. I specifically remember the @ and " keys being fixed in it.. Dafuq Asus?
Why not just use the US keyboard? All keyboards in the Netherlands have been the US QWERTY keyboard since well before the turn of the millenium. The old original Dutch keyboard became redundant decades ago.
(I don't think we've ever used it to begin with. We're too busy running after the US.. Which for once i'm glad for, as the original NL keyboard was crap.)
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The Asus Dutch Keyboard is not the keyboard you are refering to. Which is in fact ancient and I only saw one back in the 90s. The ASUS Dutch Keyboard used to be the same as the Asus English (US) keyboard except the input language is set to Dutch so it does Dutch spelling check. But you got me thinking because the keyboard I use it listed as ASUS Dutch (Holland) keyboard. Maybe it should be ASUS Dutch (US) keyboard.
But I don't know how to change this setting. Anybody can help out?
Ah. I always thought the spellcheck was related to the system language? Since you set Spell checker under Language, and not Keyboard & Input. (Suggestive typing drove me to near insanity, so I turned it off...) (I only type in English and my system language is set to UK English, so I never noticed whether the spellcheck is related to the keyboard or not.)
There used to be a Holland and US variant... Where the hell did that go? (I can't find it either.)
Yes, I think the spell check language is the system language (by default, and I have found no other way to change it). Accented letters have never worked for me on this device, although others did report that on the German language default, they actually had them working. Now I think of this, I tried setting the tab's language to "Deutsch (Deutschland)" and indeed, I have accented letters! They do not correspond to the keys, however, so you're going to have a hard time typing this way. For example, the " ' " key gives an "ä".
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Yes, I think the spell check language is the system language (by default, and I have found no other way to change it). Accented letters have never worked for me on this device, although others did report that on the German language default, they actually had them working. Now I think of this, I tried setting the tab's language to "Deutsch (Deutschland)" and indeed, I have accented letters! They do not correspond to the keys, however, so you're going to have a hard time typing this way. For example, the " ' " key gives an "ä".
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Sorry I've to disagree on the spell checking being reliant on system language only. I've configured my system language as English and set the Spell Checker setting to ᷰ'Use system language' . Then when I go to the mail program and choose 'Asus English (US) keyboard' spell checking is in English. But when I change to 'Asus Dutch (Holland) Keyboard', spell checking is in Dutch.
ZoldarVL said:
Sorry I've to disagree on the spell checking being reliant on system language only. I've configured my system language as English and set the Spell Checker setting to ᷰ'Use system language' . Then when I go to the mail program and choose 'Asus English (US) keyboard' spell checking is in English. But when I change to 'Asus Dutch (Holland) Keyboard', spell checking is in Dutch.
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Well, no matter what my selected keyboard is, if I select German as the system language I get the accented letters. *That* *was* your question, right? I can't remember you talking about the spell check, so it is not that relevant. You wanted accented letters, now you get them but you cannot type. In other words: soft keyboard for you, if need be.
EDIT: deep in the settings there turns out to be an option to bind the spell checker to a specific language, or system default. AFAIK, it shouldn't change when you simply select another keyboard when on the system default language option, but then it would not exactly be the first time that ASUS-injected stuff does funky things.
MartyHulskemper said:
Well, no matter what my selected keyboard is, if I select German as the system language I get the accented letters. *That* *was* your question, right? I can't remember you talking about the spell check, so it is not that relevant. You wanted accented letters, now you get them but you cannot type. In other words: soft keyboard for you, if need be.
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My original question was on the quote key not working when selecting Asus Dutch AND on international characters. The spell checking was introduced when ShadowLea was wondering why I wanted to use the Asus Dutch keyboard. I know I can set the language to German for accented characters but like you said totally unusable when using the dock keyboard. But I can live with the accented characters not working. But the quote key not working is a big pain in the ass. Like I said before I wait for Asus to fix this.
ZoldarVL said:
My original question was on the quote key not working when selecting Asus Dutch AND on international characters. The spell checking was introduced when ShadowLea was wondering why I wanted to use the Asus Dutch keyboard. I know I can set the language to German for accented characters but like you said totally unusable when using the dock keyboard. But I can live with the accented characters not working. But the quote key not working is a big pain in the ass. Like I said before I wait for Asus to fix this.
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Hey, no offence meant. OT: the funny thing is that on CleanROM the quote/double qoute key is working fine for me (English/US system language). Have you tweaked anything else on your device?
EDIT: I do sometimes run into the accented letter issue, and then I am very annoyed. Trying to type something like "fiancée" or "René" causes me headaches every time. I have given it some thought just printing the ASCII code list.
MartyHulskemper said:
Hey, no offence meant. OT: the funny thing is that on CleanROM the quote/double qoute key is working fine for me (English/US system language). Have you tweaked anything else on your device?
EDIT: I do sometimes run into the accented letter issue, and then I am very annoyed. Trying to type something like "fiancée" or "René" causes me headaches every time. I have given it some thought just printing the ASCII code list.
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No offence taken. I have a stock Tf700, no tweaking yet. And on a stock rom the quote key is also working on Asus English keyboard/US system language. It's when I switch to Asus Dutch Keyboard it stops working and just inserts a space when pressed. I read on another forum what people using the Asus Potugese keyboard run into the same problems. So I guess there are more input languages that suffer the same problem.
Printing the Ascii list ... back to the days of word perfect
The workaround I found is pressing the little keyboard icon next to the docking icon in the notification bar. And then turn Physical Keyboard off. Doing this one can use the docking keyboard and the screen keyboard at the same time. So whenever I have to press a double/single quote or a accented character I use the screen keyboard. And it also enables me to switch back and forth input languages using the globe key on the screen keyboard (lower left side of the screen).
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Printing the Ascii list ... back to the days of word perfect
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Yeah, it's like a time machine. Only far worse.
The workaround I found is pressing the little keyboard icon next to the docking icon in the notification bar. And then turn Physical Keyboard off. Doing this one can use the docking keyboard and the screen keyboard at the same time. So whenever I have to press a double/single quote or a accented character I use the screen keyboard. And it also enables me to switch back and forth input languages using the globe key on the screen keyboard (lower left side of the screen).
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Albeit at the cost of screen real estate, this does seem like a viable workaround for now. Thanks for sharing.
Ah, the Ascii list... I still have one hanging on the wall behind my monitor, just for nostalgia's sake. (and lazyness, can't be bothered to go to 'edit, insert, symbol, scroll list...' just to get º. )
ShadowLea said:
Ah, the Ascii list... I still have one hanging on the wall behind my monitor, just for nostalgia's sake. (and lazyness, can't be bothered to go to 'edit, insert, symbol, scroll list...' just to get º. )
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It does come in handy sometimes. That being said, even the ASCII list doesn't work on the dock keyboard, so I'm SOL for now.
I updated the title of the thread so it better covers the content.
Well, for the accented characters you can use AltGR (right alt, but on the dock the only alt) + any of the letters:
ä = q
å = w
á = a
é - e
ü = y
ú = u
í = i
ó = o
ö = p
Sadly, this misses the ë. (Which really is the most accented letter in Dutch. -.- And probably the most hated in schools.)
Well, I just stumbled onto the ALT+SPACA shortcut. That might even be a saving grace for ZoldarVL. WT.... I guess I'm still not through with learning how to operate this thing.
@ShadowLea: the shortcuts you gave above are for the German lay-out, I presume? (They do not work on the English lay-out, obviously, since they never use these accented letters. How sad.)
MartyHulskemper said:
Well, I just stumbled onto the ALT+SPACA shortcut. That might even be a saving grace for ZoldarVL. WT.... I guess I'm still not through with learning how to operate this thing.
@ShadowLea: the shortcuts you gave above are for the German lay-out, I presume? (They do not work on the English lay-out, obviously, since they never use these accented letters. How sad.)
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Asus Dutch (Holland) Keyboard layout. The éáóúí work on the UK setting, none work on the US setting. (There's a boatload more signs under the dutch altgr combo, these are just the accented keys. Altgr+shift give even more)
And yes, the Alt+Space gives a symbol menu. Did I not mention that? Bugger, I thought I did...
ShadowLea said:
Well, for the accented characters you can use AltGR (right alt, but on the dock the only alt) + any of the letters:
ä = q
å = w
á = a
é - e
ü = y
ú = u
í = i
ó = o
ö = p
Sadly, this misses the ë. (Which really is the most accented letter in Dutch. -.- And probably the most hated in schools.)
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Also the ï is missing. Probably the second most accented letter in Dutch.
I'll try the solutions you guys provided and report back. Much abbliged.