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[Q] how is it, Mytouch 4g owners? tell me please. :)

Hey guys!!!
I'm just wondering what you all think of the mytouch. I played with the g2, and I like it. I like the keyboard, and the screen looks better to me IMO.
However, with gingerbread proally coming out soon (PROBABLY) , that'll slow updates, for the MT right, because of mySense?
I LOVE THE MT4G. LOVELOVE.
I use facebook a lot
I text a lot
I like more customization
i'll probably root, overclock, and flash a custom rom when a lot of them become available.
mySense seems allright!
i consider myself an intermediate to advanced smartphone junky.
What phone should I get, and how do you like it?
I'm also worried that it's been a few months since the g2 came out, and its not even at the front at my TMO store anymore. I don't want to sign a contract and want another one before 3 months.
but the mt4g is! ideally, i wish they would add that g2 keyboard to the mytouch 4g and keep that z-hinge, it seems cool to me.
thanks!
so, should i get it? hows your experiences!? thanks.

its really important, i need a new phone before monday .
cmon guys please. 12 views, noone replies?
i just am deciding if i like mysense, and if its worth losing that amazing keyboard the g2 has. though the screen is only .1 inch bigger, the mytouch screen seems way bigger! i like it in my hand.

Well I have no experience with the MT4G yet as I am gonna get it today. My first decision was to get the G2 but after doing countless research (youtube reviews!) and comparisons of the two, I fell in love with the myTouch over the G2. The hard keyboard of the G2 doesn't really matter to me, the onscreen keyboard is good if not better with Swype. I prefer vanilla android over other UIs but mySense seems to have a lot of interesting tweaks and features that I might enjoy having. If we don't like it then there's rooting of course as I'm sure there will be plenty of roms available soon. The updates are the only thing that have me a bit worried but like I said, rooting the phone might ease the pain of dragging updates by flashing 2.3 roms if available.
Not sure if this might help but its worth noting i think.
Good luck on choosing your next phone!

I've had both the G2 & the MT4G and I'm a lot happier with the MT4G.
The G2 seemed too bricky for my tastes and I really didn't use the hard keyboard to compensate. MySense is not as good as full fledged sense but it's not a huge difference.
I know not too long after gingerbread comes out we'll probably have a Rom to flash it on our phones so updates don't worry me so much.
I think it really comes down to if you want a hard keyboard or a front facing camera. I chose the front facing camera & less bulkiness

rockstarar said:
cmon guys please. 12 views, noone replies?
i just am deciding if i like mysense, and if its worth losing that amazing keyboard the g2 has. though the screen is only .1 inch bigger, the mytouch screen seems way bigger! i like it in my hand.
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maybe because this is the 15th "how do you like your mytouch" "is it better then the g2" thread.
people need to learn how to read before they start typing

I have had the G2 and now the MT4G and although the G2 is a very very good phone I must say that I believe the MT4G is the best all around phone I have ever owned, I also have a Vibrant and a Nexus One at this time but I am going to sell the Nexus One. All of these are Great phones IMO but the G2(hinge issues, connection issues,radio issues)and the Nexus One( touch screen issues at times,signal issues) and the Vibrant(virtually no GPS until just a short time ago, lags etc.signal issues) do not seem to compare with the all stability of the MT4G of which the only issue I have found was a slight glitch in MMS messaging which is now covered. All of this is obviously just my opinions but if I had to go with just 1 phone right now it would be the MT4G

The MT4G is T-Mobiles top phone for a reason....

DADDYDC650 said:
The MT4G is T-Mobiles top phone for a reason....
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BOO-YA.
I gave up my mint N1 for the MT4G. I know there aren't many ROM's for it yet, and God knows how long it will take to get Amon_RA, but it took a good month before there were ROM's to flash for the N1. With Android 2.3 so close to being released it's just a matter of time before we get a vanilla gingerbread ROM for this device.

The Mytouch is a great handset but after using it for a couple of days I'm not that impressed....I will be selling or trading mine soon...
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

I just got mine hours ago and am loving it. I got it because I've always wanted a Sense device, and the hardware is second to none (for now)...2nd gen Snapdragon and an outstanding 768MB RAM!

cam_hamlin said:
The Mytouch is a great handset but after using it for a couple of days I'm not that impressed....I will be selling or trading mine soon...
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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I'm with ya... Came over from an Evo and just can't get used to the hard keys at the bottom instead of the touch-keys. Also experiencing some automatic re-boots (3 in three days) and some text sending problems (I already turned of the Teklia). If the Evo had been a GSM phone, I would have brought it to TMO (sprint really sucks in this town). I'm looking for a GSM Evo-clone! My only other choice will be ATT in about a month when they come to town, but they don't have any decent androids yet (sorry, the samsung captivate just doesn't do it for me... the touch screen is terrible)

cam_hamlin said:
The Mytouch is a great handset but after using it for a couple of days I'm not that impressed....I will be selling or trading mine soon...
Out of curiosity, what is the disappointing part of it for you?
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Nexus One owner who absolutely loves the My Touch 4G. Will always keep the N1 for the almost instant upgrades but the hardware on this My Touch is 2nd to none. This phone has it all and it all works. I'm getting use to this non vanilla Android for lack of a better word but using Launcher Pro this thing is dynamite. Best phone to date besides the Nexus One of course. Seriously the My Touch 4G is probably the best phone I have ever owned. The Nexus One will always be my go to phone, I'm just always drawned to that thing.
PS
The HSPA+ was just flipped on in my town. Live in a suburb outside Boston and getting between 3.5 to 5.5 Mbps on download and 1.5 on upload. I was usually getting around 900-950 kbps on the download. What a major diifference and these speeds are in my town and most surrounding towns. T-Mobile is killing this area with their great network. I am in freaken heaven. Thank You T-Mobile.
Those speeds are on my Nexus One. My Touch 4G is higher.

I had the EVO for almost a month (trial period). While I agree the bigger screen is great, it seems a little more washed out, maybe due to the fact that the same resolution is now scretched to accomedate a 4.3'' screen. The capacitive buttons on the bottom was a wash for me. I find myself accidently hitting them sometimes. I much prefer the physical keys. Battery life on the MT4G is much better. I could never manage to squeeze 10 hours from the EVO (moderate use). So, I chose the MT4G over the EVO. The only thing I did like about the EVO was the original SENSEUI on it, Tmobile's version is a little sloppy. Just my experience and opinion.

Your device is clearly defective, get a warranty exchange. That, or your lying.
lonlawrence said:
I'm with ya... Came over from an Evo and just can't get used to the hard keys at the bottom instead of the touch-keys. Also experiencing some automatic re-boots (3 in three days) and some text sending problems (I already turned of the Teklia). If the Evo had been a GSM phone, I would have brought it to TMO (sprint really sucks in this town). I'm looking for a GSM Evo-clone! My only other choice will be ATT in about a month when they come to town, but they don't have any decent androids yet (sorry, the samsung captivate just doesn't do it for me... the touch screen is terrible)
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rockstarar said:
Hey guys!!!
I'm just wondering what you all think of the mytouch. I played with the g2, and I like it. I like the keyboard, and the screen looks better to me IMO.
However, with gingerbread proally coming out soon (PROBABLY) , that'll slow updates, for the MT right, because of mySense?
I LOVE THE MT4G. LOVELOVE.
I use facebook a lot
I text a lot
I like more customization
i'll probably root, overclock, and flash a custom rom when a lot of them become available.
mySense seems allright!
i consider myself an intermediate to advanced smartphone junky.
What phone should I get, and how do you like it?
I'm also worried that it's been a few months since the g2 came out, and its not even at the front at my TMO store anymore. I don't want to sign a contract and want another one before 3 months.
but the mt4g is! ideally, i wish they would add that g2 keyboard to the mytouch 4g and keep that z-hinge, it seems cool to me.
thanks!
so, should i get it? hows your experiences!? thanks.
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LOVE the hardware, but don't like Sense. Waiting for CM6 to come out. You could always pick up a used Nexus or Vibrant for $300 or so. Or buy this one from T-mo for $450 ish without contract and then trade up later if you really want...

[Q] Worth upgrading to over HTC G2?

Still on the fence on what I'd want to upgrade to from my current HTC G2...the main thing I'm looking for is a front-facing camera (for Skype calls), and I'm not sure whether I want a physical keyboard or not (with how few decent ones are being released anymore). One thing I do know is that I want to stick to T-Mobile for their cheap plan pricing. Other phones I'm seriously considering are the G2x and the Streak 5 (AWS/T-Mobile version, as hard/expensive as it may be to get).
Anyway, few things I'm wondering, though:
-What's the quality of the secondary camera like? Any good? Does it work with Skype video chat?
-What's battery life like? I can easily get through two days at least with my G2 with moderate use, and probably even better with a better ROM/kernel/etc.
-How does the keyboard compare to the G2's in both quality and features?
-What's the screen quality like, particularly outdoors? Any better or worse than the G2?
-What's the development outlook like (especially for AOSP/CM7-like stuff)? The G2 seems to be pretty active, with an ICS port already in the works...not sure how the myTouch compares.
-How do the processor/graphics compare? I know it's a dual-core, but is it any good? Not in terms of gaming power, though, just daily use - my G2 is smooth for most uses, but it still lags a bit here or there...
Basically I'm just wondering if the $400+ off-contract price is worth it, or if I should get the cheaper G2x (at around $250) or the Streak 5 with its huge screen.

magus57 said:
Still on the fence on what I'd want to upgrade to from my current HTC G2...the main thing I'm looking for is a front-facing camera (for Skype calls), and I'm not sure whether I want a physical keyboard or not (with how few decent ones are being released anymore). One thing I do know is that I want to stick to T-Mobile for their cheap plan pricing. Other phones I'm seriously considering are the G2x and the Streak 5 (AWS/T-Mobile version, as hard/expensive as it may be to get).
Anyway, few things I'm wondering, though:
-What's the quality of the secondary camera like? Any good? Does it work with Skype video chat?
-What's battery life like? I can easily get through two days at least with my G2 with moderate use, and probably even better with a better ROM/kernel/etc.
-How does the keyboard compare to the G2's in both quality and features?
-What's the screen quality like, particularly outdoors? Any better or worse than the G2?
-What's the development outlook like (especially for AOSP/CM7-like stuff)? The G2 seems to be pretty active, with an ICS port already in the works...not sure how the myTouch compares.
-How do the processor/graphics compare? I know it's a dual-core, but is it any good? Not in terms of gaming power, though, just daily use - my G2 is smooth for most uses, but it still lags a bit here or there...
Basically I'm just wondering if the $400+ off-contract price is worth it, or if I should get the cheaper G2x (at around $250) or the Streak 5 with its huge screen.
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Don't get the streak.
G2x is supposed to be a gaming phone. No keyboard or great camera. Although its a good phone.
Our phone has a way better keyboard. I hate the g2s keyboard. It looks flimsy. At the hinges. Other than that the keyboard is the same I think. Alt is used for numbers.
Screen quality is very good. Outdoors direct sunlight will make a huge glare though.
We have several roms. Aosp sense and hybrids. And a few kernels. G2 has been out longer and has more roms etc. G2x I think is in the same boat as us.
Battery life depends on use and how you use it. I can have the battery last. 3 days or a few hours.
I game on my slide. I haven't lagged once and I play graphic rich games like order and chaos. Everyday use I watch netflix and browse internet no problems. This phone is very fast. Also takes great pictures. No lag or shuttering whatsoever.
I don't use skype or the front camera so no comments on that.
sent from my Agent Orange MT4G Slide using xda premium

Thanks a lot for the quick reply - other than the lack of development for it, why shouldn't I consider the Streak? And I know the G2x doesn't have a keyboard, but it'd be the logical (and cheap) upgrade for me from a G2.

magus57 said:
Thanks a lot for the quick reply - other than the lack of development for it, why shouldn't I consider the Streak? And I know the G2x doesn't have a keyboard, but it'd be the logical (and cheap) upgrade for me from a G2.
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I've had many problems with dell streaks from 5 to 7. I just had a streak 7 that was stuck in read only mode. I've just had bad experiences. I fix phones on the side that's why I say that.
G2x is a good phone. I was making the debate as you did. Hardware keyboard, tv out and camera is what sold me.
As far as logcial goes. I think your best logical step is to the slide, since your phone g2 has more things in common with the slide than the g2x. Just wanted to point that out.
Price wise I thought g2x and slide were the same? I know they were for me. G2x must be on special or something.
sent from my Agent Orange MT4G Slide using xda premium

magus57 said:
Thanks a lot for the quick reply - other than the lack of development for it, why shouldn't I consider the Streak? And I know the G2x doesn't have a keyboard, but it'd be the logical (and cheap) upgrade for me from a G2.
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Ther r many many many problems with g2x just go on utube and search g2x problems
The. Mytouch4gslide has better processor and its sexyier
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using XDA App

Droidmoder said:
I've had many problems with dell streaks from 5 to 7. I just had a streak 7 that was stuck in read only mode. I've just had bad experiences. I fix phones on the side that's why I say that.
G2x is a good phone. I was making the debate as you did. Hardware keyboard, tv out and camera is what sold me.
As far as logcial goes. I think your best logical step is to the slide, since your phone g2 has more things in common with the slide than the g2x. Just wanted to point that out.
Price wise I thought g2x and slide were the same? I know they were for me. G2x must be on special or something.
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Ah, good to know about the Streaks. I had a Streak 7 and wasn't a fan of the screen quality in portrait mode, but that was my only complaint.
And true, the TV-out on the Slide is more useful to me - one of the two TV's I'd ever use the function doesn't have HDMI inputs, making composite more useful to me (plus the cable is smaller/cheaper from what I've seen).
I just figured the G2x would be the step up mainly by the name, but also because it has a bigger/better screen (one thing I really dislike about the Slide - same size screen as the G2).
And price-wise (I'm looking ay off-contract because I'm looking to use it with T-Mobile's value plans - can't afford an actual contract plan) - the G2x is as cheap as $250 for like-new (with box and all accessories) on eBay, while it's $350+ for the Slide (with less people selling them too).
wiswis said:
Ther r many many many problems with g2x just go on utube and search g2x problems
The. Mytouch4gslide has better processor and its sexyier
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From what I understand, almost all of the issues are software-related and have been fixed since launch either through official updates or ROMs (like CM7). I have heard of a few hardware ones like bad backlight bleeding and whatnot, though...and personally, I find the G2 to look much nicer than the Slide, with the more square edges and the aluminum.

Actually, while on the topic of comparing phones - how does the Sidekick 4G compare to the Slide? Honestly, my point-and-shoot camera is light/compact enough and powerful too to make a phone camera mostly an afterthought. And my G2 does just about everything fine, so I'm pretty sure the extra 200Mhz and the better GPU will suffice.

magus57 said:
Actually, while on the topic of comparing phones - how does the Sidekick 4G compare to the Slide? Honestly, my point-and-shoot camera is light/compact enough and powerful too to make a phone camera mostly an afterthought. And my G2 does just about everything fine, so I'm pretty sure the extra 200Mhz and the better GPU will suffice.
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I still have the G2 as a backup phone. My only issue with the MT4GS is the lack of dev support and everyone slamming physical keyboards (are they forgetting that was one of the selling points of the G1?).
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I just came from the G2 and I think its definitely a upgrade. Not by a lot but better camera, more ram, faster proscessor. Hopefully soon the developer support gets better soon. The g2 has lots of developers but go there and u will see its all the same sense roms I'm not lying.
Sent from my Senseless ZombieMod MT4GS using xda premium

daboy00 said:
I just came from the G2 and I think its definitely a upgrade. Not by a lot but better camera, more ram, faster proscessor. Hopefully soon the developer support gets better soon. The g2 has lots of developers but go there and u will see its all the same sense roms I'm not lying.
Sent from my Senseless ZombieMod MT4GS using xda premium
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Yeah. The only real AOSP dev is blah. MexDroid is good eye candy but is so much like GingerVillain it runs the risk of being classified as "kanged."
Sent from a message in a bottle.

If you are going to root the phone and use custom roms you are talking about more than a 200mhz jump. My MT4GS is at 1700mhz on both cores. That's more than a little increase from the the G2, which I also owned.
I can't live without the keyboard honestly. I have been thinking about making a mega-keyboard post cuz I don't think folks really utilize the hotkeys and thus, the real power of the keyboard, at all. I start all the apps I use from the keyboard and hardly ever go hunting around in app drawers for anything. It's super fast access to programs while maintaining an uncluttered homescreen.
The Genius button can be useful if you're into that. If not, the button can be remapped to do whatever it is you need more.
The front-facing camera works with Skype, Fring and GTalk. I can confirm that. I'm sure it works with other services as well. I wish there were more developers for the MT4GS. Coming from the Vibrant (in between my G2 and my MT4GS) I am accustomed to many more options. But the hardware for this phone is so good that I have stayed.
I used to flash roms at least once a day. I love options and getting the most out of hardware. So believe me, it takes a beast of a phone to keep me around with such a scarcity of deving goin on.
That said, we do have some talented devs like Blue, Undead, Computerkid, Chris, kornyone, et al. So I say go for it!! Join the fun.

_atlien_ said:
If you are going to root the phone and use custom roms you are talking about more than a 200mhz jump. My MT4GS is at 1700mhz on both cores. That's more than a little increase from the the G2, which I also owned.
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The 200mhz was referring to the Sidekick, I'm well aware the Slide is dual-core.
Thanks for the info, though, definitely interested in the phone.

blackknightavalon said:
Yeah. The only real AOSP dev is blah. MexDroid is good eye candy but is so much like GingerVillain it runs the risk of being classified as "kanged."
Sent from a message in a bottle.
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I though mex droid was one of the best roms for the g2
Sent from my Senseless ZombieMod MT4GS using xda premium

i had the g2 and had the options from mt4gs or sk4g. i got the slide cause sidekick was just too skinned for me.
the camera is deff an upgrade. specially if you keep a sense rom.
battery life will never be as good. i have an extended battery with each phone..
probably when more dev comes along this phones true potential will come out like the g2's has..
i only paid 130 for mine from insurance.. so it wasn't as bad as 400+ like you might be spending.. maybe try findin one used? it'll have a warranty if its not to old anyways.. or insurance claim? thats how i got mine.

daboy00 said:
I though mex droid was one of the best roms for the g2
Sent from my Senseless ZombieMod MT4GS using xda premium
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A2EXT loads much slower on MexDroid than it does on PyroMod and it runs the DT A2SD script. PyroMod's A2SD script is an original work (I looked over the code). If you still have your G2, try out both ROMs after reading the instructions for both thoroughly.

farewell to a good community

It's been real guys, but I just traded the mt4g for a sensation. Appreciate all the devs here. Febycv keep up the good work. Peace all!
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

Don't say bye. Your not leaving, your just leaving the mytouch 4g section
I dont like when people say goodbye... say see ya later or something. Feels better

chukis13 said:
It's been real guys, but I just traded the mt4g for a sensation. Appreciate all the devs here. Febycv keep up the good work. Peace all!
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Wow a Mt4g for a sensation?? Niceeee...
-Team Inferno
"Quality, not speed"

Yeah, dude's wife really wanted a mt4g. He didn't seem very tech savvy either.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

chukis13 said:
Yeah, dude's wife really wanted a mt4g. He didn't seem very tech savvy either.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
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you got lucky hahaha
how is the Sensation?

chukis13 said:
It's been real guys, but I just traded the mt4g for a sensation. Appreciate all the devs here. Febycv keep up the good work. Peace all!
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
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even trade?? man that dude was a sucker, but I guess anything to please the wifey lol

chukis13 said:
It's been real guys, but I just traded the mt4g for a sensation. Appreciate all the devs here. Febycv keep up the good work. Peace all!
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
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Do you think it's still worth getting it? I want to get it, but flagship times is just around the corner...

GazaIan said:
Do you think it's still worth getting it? I want to get it, but flagship times is just around the corner...
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Heck yes. Totally worth it. I really want one...
-Team Inferno
"Quality, not speed"

As a user that has had both. I took the MT4G over the Sensation. There is no need for that much power in a phone right now plus the battery life on those things is TERRIBLE. However from a money standpoint, I would straight trade the MT4G for a Sensation any day lol.

Totally worth it in my eyes. This is more than enough phone for me so I won't be upgrading anytime soon. The dev community is really strong too. Already put virtuous quattro on it and it's amazing. Tried out some of the sense ics roms but I like vanilla ics best.
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I've been thinking of getting a Sensation myself for the last couple of days after my bad eMMC MT4G ate it, but the more I look at my options, the more I'm leaning towards getting another MT4G provided that I get one with the good eMMC and screen.
The Sensation's primary issue is signal strength. It annoys me that I have to limit my options for which case to buy so that it doesn't have a role in degrading the signal. Also, I prefer using Wi-Fi over 4G because I'm on a simple data plan, and it's unacceptable to me for the Wi-Fi antenna at the top to be extremely susceptible to a death grip that I have to hold the phone a certain way in landscape mode, and likewise I can't hold the phone by its bottom unless if I also want to degrade the mobile signal as well. I can hold the MT4G with two fingers using the TPU Fusion case, but I don't do it. Why would I do that with the Sensation, with or without a case? If I can give Apple crap for their iPhone 4 inconveniences, I will do the same to HTC. It's not acceptable.
To me, my phone still needs to primarily be a phone, then a mobile Internet device and GPS, then a PDA, and lastly, a time-waster. As great of a device as the Sensation was spec-wise for 2011, it comes up short in too many practical categories. The signal strength, battery life, and speaker volume (for which there is a fix) are all worse than the MT4G. Even though I would like the larger, higher resolution screen and dual-core processor, I don't make use of those things enough for them to matter.
That said, I still hate the idea of playing panel and eMMC lottery to get a good MT4G. If the Sensation didn't have its issues, I may have gotten one the first time around, because I really like the phone otherwise.
Of course, when it comes to trading the two phones, that's a no-brainer because you're basically making $50-100.

Snakecharmed said:
I've been thinking of getting a Sensation myself for the last couple of days after my bad eMMC MT4G ate it, but the more I look at my options, the more I'm leaning towards getting another MT4G provided that I get one with the good eMMC and screen.
The Sensation's primary issue is signal strength. It annoys me that I have to limit my options for which case to buy so that it doesn't have a role in degrading the signal. Also, I prefer using Wi-Fi over 4G because I'm on a simple data plan, and it's unacceptable to me for the Wi-Fi antenna at the top to be extremely susceptible to a death grip that I have to hold the phone a certain way in landscape mode, and likewise I can't hold the phone by its bottom unless if I also want to degrade the mobile signal as well. I can hold the MT4G with two fingers using the TPU Fusion case, but I don't do it. Why would I do that with the Sensation, with or without a case? If I can give Apple crap for their iPhone 4 inconveniences, I will do the same to HTC. It's not acceptable.
To me, my phone still needs to primarily be a phone, then a mobile Internet device and GPS, then a PDA, and lastly, a time-waster. As great of a device as the Sensation was spec-wise for 2011, it comes up short in too many practical categories. The signal strength, battery life, and speaker volume (for which there is a fix) are all worse than the MT4G. Even though I would like the larger, higher resolution screen and dual-core processor, I don't make use of those things enough for them to matter.
That said, I still hate the idea of playing panel and eMMC lottery to get a good MT4G. If the Sensation didn't have its issues, I may have gotten one the first time around, because I really like the phone otherwise.
Of course, when it comes to trading the two phones, that's a no-brainer because you're basically making $50-100.
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Weird, I've not had a single issue with signal of any kind no matter how I hold it. Use my wifi at home at all times and haven't had any issues with my 4G either. Also I get great battery life on ics, just as good as I did with my mt4g. Speaker volume also not an issue. Have you had one of these? Cause I have absolutely zero doubts about making the switch and would never go back.
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I haven't. Those are all the complaints I've read in the xda Sensation forums. What it boils down to for me is whether I want to spend the extra $80-100 for hardware that I know I won't put to maximal use and a new set of problems. It may not be every handset, just like not every MT4G has a bad screen, bad eMMC, squeaky buttons, or whatever else. However, the Sensation does have its share of problems and the ones that it has are potential deal breakers to me, regardless of what another user's tolerance, threshold, or experience is.
I haven't ruled out the Sensation yet, but it's hard for me to pull the trigger on either a second MT4G or a Sensation knowing that both of them have the potential to be a bigger pain in the ass than any phone I've owned before the last MT4G. What's frustrating is that those are my only candidates at this point because nothing else appeals to me nor is in my budget. I've only started to take a liking to some Samsung and Motorola smartphones based on their late-2011 models, but those are way out of my budget and I know I'd want to switch to AOSP immediately with those phones.

You know, if I had to replace my MT4G, I'd just go for a Galaxy S. They're easy to root and there's a decent amount of support. And everything works on ICS. I'm just not a fan of the build quality. I'd be using my Galaxy S if it wasn't for the fact that it feels cheap and plasticy. My MT4G is like a lump of steel by comparison (which is good).

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You know, if I had to replace my MT4G, I'd just go for a Galaxy S. They're easy to root and there's a decent amount of support. And everything works on ICS. I'm just not a fan of the build quality. I'd be using my Galaxy S if it wasn't for the fact that it feels cheap and plasticy. My MT4G is like a lump of steel by comparison (which is good).
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word to that brother! I hate the build quality of the Galaxy S, however the build quality on the mytouch 4g is awesome!
I recently traded a HD2 and for a Mytouch 4g and I was lucky enough to get one with a good eMMc chip and display

Haha. Yeah. I tend to keep my older phones, and when I was gifted the Galaxy S, I switched back to my MT4G. In fact, build quality was what kept me with Blackberry for so long. After I was given my MT3G Slide, I got hooked onto android because of flash support. That and I could easily play SNES emulators.
It's a shame to see people move away from the phone. Especially with the recent news that perhaps we could start getting full functionality from ICS because of the other similar phone's official ICS upgrade.

madmanmostafa said:
You know, if I had to replace my MT4G, I'd just go for a Galaxy S. They're easy to root and there's a decent amount of support. And everything works on ICS. I'm just not a fan of the build quality. I'd be using my Galaxy S if it wasn't for the fact that it feels cheap and plasticy. My MT4G is like a lump of steel by comparison (which is good).
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+1 on the bad build quality. I got the international version, GT-I9000, the build kinda sucks... Haha
-Team Inferno
"Quality, not speed"

I think I've decided to save my money and get another MT4G for now while keeping my eye on the Amaze or whatever else might become a good modder phone when it's truly time for me to upgrade.
I know some people here like to upgrade phones like they're leasing BMWs, but my phone is not a status symbol. I'll just take a solid, good-looking form factor with sufficiently powerful hardware for my needs, because once I'm done rooting and flashing a new ROM, I don't mess with it again.

I've got a Sensation and MT4G, and I switch back and forth in use. Spec wise the Sensation may seem a lot better on paper, but here's my perspective in comparing the 2 in real life.
Sensation pluses:
* Screen size & resolution
* 8 MB Camera and 1080p Camcorder
* More active development, so quicker path to ICS
Sensation minues:
* Antennas built into the rear cover - arguably a defective design; harder to do a simple battery pull; not nearly as solid as the MT4G design with its metal battery cover; and generally the MT4G seems to get better reception too.
For most other items, like battery life, speed of use with or without Sense, lack of lag, built in memory, 4g speeds, browsing, etc., the devices are very similar if not about the same. Dual core in the Sensation is nice, but on both of my devices I only OC to about 1.2 ghz and they both (with the right GB rom) have the same smoothness and similar benchmarks. Sensation is just like a slightly newer brother to the MT4G IMO.

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It's been real guys, but I just traded the mt4g for a sensation. Appreciate all the devs here. Febycv keep up the good work. Peace all!
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hows the sensation? thats the only phone right now id upgrade to
im thinking of holding off for now though
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G2X or SGSII

Hey G2X users!!
I have been contemplating this situation for months! Now i wanna get the users personal opinion
What is your take on the LG G2X? Is it good? I looked at the specs on LG's website and im liking them. But how does it feel being used every day? Is it better or worse than the SGSII? If so by how much? I really hate buying new things cause i hate when i buy the wrong thing Thanks so much guys for your time!

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Hey G2X users!!
I have been contemplating this situation for months! Now i wanna get the users personal opinion
What is your take on the LG G2X? Is it good? I looked at the specs on LG's website and im liking them. But how does it feel being used every day? Is it better or worse than the SGSII? If so by how much? I really hate buying new things cause i hate when i buy the wrong thing Thanks so much guys for your time!
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what are the prices for them is it craigslist, or literally a new like straight from T-Mobile? Overall in my opinion SGS II or wait for a couple months and get the SGS III, or HTC One S now, I say stay from the G2X cause of lack of support from both parties that put the phone out.

Gs2 any day. Samsung processors kick nvidias sorry ass
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mt3g said:
what are the prices for them is it craigslist, or literally a new like straight from T-Mobile? Overall in my opinion SGS II or wait for a couple months and get the SGS III, or HTC One S now, I say stay from the G2X cause of lack of support from both parties that put the phone out.
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Well the sgs2 is average 350+ and they claim it's "like new" or "used for only one week" which I find hard to believe. and the lg g2x average 200+ and I have a pre paid plan from t mobile and love it so I wouldn't be able to get the sgs3 sadly (that phone looks so sexy ) and yes the HTC one s I could most likely get but the people I've talked to about their sgs2 say the the sgs2 is better (I don't see how ) and they use that as their means for being firm about their price. Thanks for your input btw
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Gs2 any day. Samsung processors kick nvidias sorry ass
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Haha i know this however they also kick the wallet's ass too

The GS2 is more expensive, but it's a better investment. It has generally better specs, and the Development looks more promising because of Samsung's support.
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If I could go back in time, I would wait a week for the SII. It came out a week right after I got the G2x. Stock, I found the G2x to be nearly unbearable. Rooted with custom ROMs, it's good. Not sure how the development community is for the SII, but I'd still probably pick it over the G2x
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I would get a SGSII. Also, if price isn't much of an issue, the GNex is on the play store...
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I'll still go with sg2.
WHO knows when sg3 will actually come to Us even more TMobile which get everything lastly. Not too mention the price it might be.
LG sucks and 512 ram is kinda too little these days.
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Well I guess I'll have to wait xD wish I could sell my stupid Sirius satellite radio and Kyle Yamaha keyboard then I'd have plenty lol thanks all for your comments! Didn't realize the g2x was that bad it actually looked pretty sweet and in terms of development I'd just need a fully working cm7 ROM with data2ext working which takes care of the 512mb issue but I'll wait
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I just ordered a gently used G2x on ebay (they go around $200, depending on condition). This is a good value for the specs. The Galaxy S2 is $350+, which gets into a new Galaxy Nexus territory. From what I've researched, custom ROMs like CM7 should be pretty stable and fully functional, most of the problems with the G2x are software anyway. Only hardware issue is the camera dust under cover, which I plan to remedy by putting a clear tape over the LED flash, which I normally don't use anyway.
Also LG already announced ICS for Optimus 2X (international version), it's just delayed again to 3rd quarter, once that is out, one of the major problems with current CM9 ROMs should be resolved (no video acceleration or recording).

Speaking from experience, I have both phones.
GS2 wins for stability, just works, and has a better camera than the LG G2X. But..... personally I'm not thrilled with the GS2 device for the sheer size.
I've used G2X for almost a year. You just have to find a ROM you can live with and make tweaks so that it won't freeze/crash while charging. Other than that, phone is solid. CM7 was best ROM and overall performance. Stock gave best battery but I can't stand STOCK ROMs.
But the biggest reason I really switched to the GS2 was sick of the random crazy battery life and the GPS never working when I need it for emergencies.
I made the mistake of not test driving the GS2 on T-mobile store to get a better feel. Big screen with low resolution is what pisses me off, on top of the fact that the size of the phone isn't friendly to my small hands. If I overlook those two flaws, sure its awesome phone.
Also, the T989 just doesn't have a variety of ROMS available and have to wait for the official release from Tmobile, CM7 isn't reliable for it (I love CM7), and has no CM9 love yet.
I might overlook the negatives I have if Dev for T989 picked up. Until then, it works, reliable, and no headaches.

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Speaking from experience, I have both phones.
GS2 wins for stability, just works, and has a better camera than the LG G2X. But..... personally I'm not thrilled with the GS2 device for the sheer size.
I've used G2X for almost a year. You just have to find a ROM you can live with and make tweaks so that it won't freeze/crash while charging. Other than that, phone is solid. CM7 was best ROM and overall performance. Stock gave best battery but I can't stand STOCK ROMs.
But the biggest reason I really switched to the GS2 was sick of the random crazy battery life and the GPS never working when I need it for emergencies.
I made the mistake of not test driving the GS2 on T-mobile store to get a better feel. Big screen with low resolution is what pisses me off, on top of the fact that the size of the phone isn't friendly to my small hands. If I overlook those two flaws, sure its awesome phone.
Also, the T989 just doesn't have a variety of ROMS available and have to wait for the official release from Tmobile, CM7 isn't reliable for it (I love CM7), and has no CM9 love yet.
I might overlook the negatives I have if Dev for T989 picked up. Until then, it works, reliable, and no headaches.
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I don't know about you, but GPS is super fast in the March 2012 BB update. Signal is the same thou ppl have felt it got better too. Battery is alot better also.
P.S: talking about g2x here.

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I don't know about you, but GPS is super fast in the March 2012 BB update. Signal is the same thou ppl have felt it got better too. Battery is alot better also.
P.S: talking about g2x here.
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Can't use the baseband if you want a nice, custom ROM, though.
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partylikeaninjastar said:
Can't use the baseband if you want a nice, custom ROM, though.
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kwes has a custom ROM for it. The reason we have no other cuz every dev is waiting on arcee to incorporate changes that were made in new BB.

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Haha i know this however they also kick the wallet's ass too
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True. Check out swappa or look around for deals. I don't think you will find if you plan on going prepaid.
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I own a G2X, my buddy has a Sgs2 an I would not trade him dead even! The G2X is resilient and easily customizable. Dev support for the G2X is 50 to 1 compared to the Sgs2. I have (and still do) flashed numerous Roms and Kernels to my phone with little or no issue. He bricked his rather quickly. He got his second one and asked me to root and customize - which I did. I was astonished at how little there was to look at / choose from in the Samsung forums here.
bang for your buck? +1 for the G2X
better screen and lots more $$$, go for the s2.
my two pennies.

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I own a G2X, my buddy has a Sgs2 an I would not trade him dead even! The G2X is resilient and easily customizable. Dev support for the G2X is 50 to 1 compared to the Sgs2. I have (and still do) flashed numerous Roms and Kernels to my phone with little or no issue. He bricked his rather quickly. He got his second one and asked me to root and customize - which I did. I was astonished at how little there was to look at / choose from in the Samsung forums here.
bang for your buck? +1 for the G2X
better screen and lots more $$$, go for the s2.
my two pennies.
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You must be talking about T-Mobile GS2. SGS2 international is one of the best supported devices out there, has official ICS + fully functional CM9.

Sweet, love all the input guys!! Really giving me a lot to work with and make my decision harder xD
I have a few questions, I found an SGS2 CM7 ROM that lists everything as working. And i too love CM7 waiting for AOKP or CM9 to obtain all the awesome features that CM7 has then i'll make the swap.
From what you guys posted it seems like the G2X has better stability and development. And yes i am talking about the SGH-T989 i cannot use the international version on T-Mobile as it doesnt support the 1700mhz frequency so i wont get 3G.
I am really liking the SGS2 ive been on youtube looking at different videos and it looks pretty awesome. Plus the super amoled display is stunning. Also, to the person who commented on the SGS2 having a lower resolution, what exactly do you mean? Are you saying the 800x400 is too small for the size? The screen is only .2 inches bigger than my HD2 which has the same resolution and i dont see it a problem. I might get the SGS2, i do really like the Amoled display. Ugh decisions decisions xD
Thanks all for the awesome information!

Got another question, 7o both phones support more than two finger multi touch?
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Samsung or HTC

Which should I get I'm confused but I want this phone to last a while
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Re: HTC One or M7
Isn't the htc one the official name for the device whilst M7 was just three rumour name? Or am I confusing it with another device?
Greets Vauvenal7
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Do yourself a favor and don't get an HTC device again. My sister has a HOX and they've gotten no updates past their first update.

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But I really i dont like Samsung but imma take what I can get and there are 2 diff phones with the One as there name that's why I said m7
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I have always found HTC build quality to be the best, not just in durability but also feel. Samsung doesn't "feel" nice on average but I'm learning their build quality is on par with all the latest phones. One of my least favorite phone makers is lg, bit I just got my girl a nexus 4 and from what I can tell it too should last a long time with the case she has.
But I've grown tired of needed high quality development for each phone I get (hence the n4) and I've phone the worst of the phone companies is HTC as far as getting new software for their "flagship phones"
Granted I will always use custom software its nice to know there is a solid base for me to work with, well mainly developers to work with, I haven't seen a HTC phone get more than 3 major updates, mostly two or one, the only one to have three huge updates was the dream, very first android phone.... Since then they have let their loyal fan base down.
So if you want a phone with consistent software updates, go Samsung flagship phones or go with a nexus, chances are you'll be disappointed in a years time or so if you dont
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Here is why the HTC One.....well any HTC device is a lose/lose. 1 they lock em down tighter thank Fort Knox. And 2 well read this short article on why HTC was sued by the FTC. http://thehackernews.com/2013/02/privacy-of-millions-of-htc-devices-at.html?m=1
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Wow. Now I wanna change the name to Samsung or HTC . but if I do get a Samsung would the s3 or note II last?
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K7Cobb said:
Wow. Now I wanna change the name to Samsung or HTC . but if I do get a Samsung would the s3 or note II last?
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The s3 in my eyes is nothing special. My little brother has a Verizon S3 and it didn't impress me at all.
I read ALL the raves about how powerful it was blah blah blah. And when I finally got one in my hands I was like really, this is the NEXT BIG THING...LMAO.
The most powerful device I've touched to date has been my N4.
I'll get to play with the Note 2 again soon and I'll stack it against my N4. But the Note 2 is just god awfully huge and I wouldn't have it as a personal device because it covers my whole entire face haha
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strapped365 said:
The s3 in my eyes is nothing special. My little brother has a Verizon S3 and it didn't impress me at all.
I read ALL the raves about how powerful it was blah blah blah. And when I finally got one in my hands I was like really, this is the NEXT BIG THING...LMAO.
The most powerful device I've touched to date has been my N4.
I'll get to play with the Note 2 again soon and I'll stack it against my N4. But the Note 2 is just god awfully huge and I wouldn't have it as a personal device because it covers my whole entire face haha
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I like the Note 2. I don't use my phone for calls particularly often (a few times a day at most) and use it more as a productivity (or... productivity reducer, really) device and the form factor is great. It has great battery life due to the huge battery and the digitizer is fantastic. That being said, the Nexus 4 will get far longer support because it's a Nexus device and many people will hang onto it.
Nexus 4:
- Pros: Updates for 1.5 - 2 years, huge support from XDA and such, inexpensive, good battery life, great screen after tweaks, did I mention the XDA support?
- Cons: Somewhat fragile front and back glass, no SD card (if you use one), no removable battery (if you use one)
Galaxy S3:
- Pros: Somewhat well supported due to the very large userbase, Wolfson DAC, SD card, removable battery
- Cons: Feels pretty cheap, not a quad-core
- Toss-up: Pentile screen
Galaxy Note 2:
- Pros: Wacom Digitizer and Pen, huge screen, non-Pentile AMOLED, Wolfson DAC, SD card, removable battery
- Cons: You look like an idiot when you put the phone to your face, less PPI than S3 or N4, can't use one-handed well, less support on XDA, loss of Digitizer support when on AOSP ROMs, expensive even with a contract
The pros and cons in my head.

Well now I need to change the name again lol, I was thinking about the N4 but how big is the screen? And does XDA only have stock ROMs cause I would like to load a sense/touchwiz ROM onto it. And the N4 is the original device I was gonna choose from....since its on tmo.....but I want a big screen and NICE CASES
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Well now I need to change the name again lol, I was thinking about the N4 but how big is the screen? And does XDA only have stock ROMs cause I would like to load a sense/touchwiz ROM onto it. And the N4 is the original device I was gonna choose from....since its on tmo.....but I want a big screen and NICE CASES
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I have a 4.7 inch IPS display on my nexus which is pretty boss but Google fudged the colors so they need tweaked.
I rock the Poetic Atmosphere case and have 0 issues with it. I'll get some pics of it all up for you later I just got my speedy working to take pics with
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I've made up my mind imma get the s3 because it has a great screen good accessories and it has sense 4.1 and android 4.2.1/.2 so I'm good! Imma be happy AF when I get the s3 but imma be sad cause this is the device I started with lol. But until I get the s3 imma be on here checking out ROMs.
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Sense is actually an HTC interface /overlay (?). S3 has touchwiz or whatever they call it.
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Sense is actually an HTC interface /overlay (?). S3 has touchwiz or whatever they call it.
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Yeah, but there is a dev group that ports sense to Samsung devices
Greets Vauvenal7
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Lol sorry for the confusion lol by sense and 4.2.1/.2 I mean custom ROMs , but I thought that was kinda obvious
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ill go for HTC anytime IF they still made qwerty keyboards

If you still want a keyboard, Samsung seems to be the only provider.
Luckily, the devices they make are fairly good. Captivate Glide is the device I have gotten in the past month. Keyboard is heaps better than the one on the 4G Slide.
They also make the Relay 4G, which has one of the best keyboards I've ever seen on a phone. And it's the fastest QWERTY available on the market right now.
I will eventually upgrade to that device, but the pickings are somewhat slim, I must say.
I feel like T-Mobile customers have been the most fortunate when it comes to QWERTY phones. They had and still have some of the best devices available.
3G Slide, G2, 4G Slide, and now the Relay 4G all from the same carrier.

HTC doesn't do it like Samsung does. Samsung gives updates HTC doesn't. Samsung devices (majority) all have nice cases. And Samsung will last you a good amount of time. Most likely imma get the s3 but if not the note 1. Sorry HTC but you let your biggest fan down
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The S3 is light, but it's delicate. I've already broken two - and i'm pretty careful with my devices. Don't for a second believe that 'gorilla glass 2' is 'just as good as gorilla glass 1'. It's a bunch of bs.
It's quick, I like the bigger screen. Hate no keyboard, and refuse to use the 'fake' virtual keyboard. Had to go get a real virtual keyboard to cope. (I don't do fake well anyways)
I have an S3 on verizon, and the doubleshot on t-mo.
I use the s3 for work, because I travel and t-mobile ****ed me bad with no service - across most of the country. I haven't been to a backwater nowhere town yet that verizon didn't have good service in. T-mo, pretty much nowhere that isn't a huge population center.
But guess what? If I have to take a picture (and I take lots during the course of my shifts) I always pull the doubleshot. The S3 has the worst camera of any digital device i've put my hands on in the last 3 years.
My job depends on legible pictures - the S3 fails to deliver usable pictures so consistently the might as well just have left that out and put more ram in.
If I have to write an email, or the descriptions for those pictures where I can't use the magic cube? Yep - doubleshot. Then a wifi hotspot to send it to the S3 since I have no T-mo service wherever I am standing most likely.
So, despite having an S3, I still use the doubleshot for just about everything, and basically the s3 is a glorified internet connection to make up for T-mo's lack of network basically anywhere.
I do like the USB OTG function, and create and receive flash drives constantly while at work. It's the best way to swap large files like we make between each other on shift. The fact I can do it from my phone and don't need a laptop/netbook like most other people are stuck with is clutch.
Again, though, basically data hits the s3 and just goes over to the doubleshot where I actually work with it.
I do use the s3 to play Ingress - multi-window is nice if you port it or flash a rom that has it. I can't see multi-window being much more then frustrating on anything smaller then the s3 screen size.
I'm hit or miss on other games on the s3, can't say as I prefer it over the doubleshot or vice versa. The bigger screen isn't that much of a deal, but it might have been if I had the bigger one first.
I wanted to be a lot happier with it then I was, the extra ram is nice and the screen size is boss. Native HID bluetooth support is nice, but I find I don't really use it much beyond the magic cube. The MHL cable is cumbersome compared to the tv-out function of the doubleshot.
I sure as **** miss the keyboard shortcut hotkeys on the s3, just using android on it is clunky compared to a hardware keyboard device. If you got used to using them, get prepared to have your legs kicked out from under you. Doing specific things on the device takes 4 times as long or longer (if you can find something to tap to tell it to do what you want even - sometimes the keyboard shortcuts allow actions you can't otherwise perform)
Just having to do everything the long way without the keyboard shortcuts eliminates any performance gains the extra ram provides in general usage. 9 times out of 10 the doubleshot gets it done way faster just because I can tell it to do what I want it to do so much quicker.
nfc tags kinda make up for it a little bit, but not really. They are very limited in that you can only do what the tag is programmed to do. I have just under 50 tags in general use - it starts to become too much after a bit. Keyboard shortcuts are much more elegant.
In the end, my feelings on the s3 are just ... meh. If I could put the doubleshot on verizon, i'd sell the s3 in a heartbeat without a backward thought.

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In the end, my feelings on the s3 are just ... meh. If I could put the doubleshot on verizon, i'd sell the s3 in a heartbeat without a backward thought.
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Why didn't you get the Droid 4? It's not a doubleshot, the camera is not as great, but it has one of the best keyboards ever fitted to a phone.
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