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Hey guys,
I have a small but interesting question. Some one is selling a galaxy S2 really cheap, which has supposedly been turned on by him for only a few minutes. Its factory unlocked and had all the stickers and stuff on it with a brand new box. One weird thing was it was already rooted. I was wondering if there was anyway I could find out how long the phone had been used. Something which isn't affected by .sbf flashing or anything of the sort. A fool proof way of knowing how much the phone was used. In the old nokia phones there was
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which showed the lifetimer. Does android have anything similar? Any help would be appretiated. Thanks
Either he us lying or he did actually turn it on for a few minutes, but whoever had it before him rooted and unlocked it. Make sure you get the whole story bc SGS2 is a top phone. If it is cheap, there must be a reason. Check for corrosion on the battery points and make sure it can get into download mode. Hold volume up + down and push power. When S splash comes up, release the power but keep holding volume rocker.
Been a watcher on the forums for awhile, now I actually had to sign up and get some help, LOL.
Anyway, dropped my s2 skyrocket, noticed that it kept trying to reboot every now and then when I used it the same day. The next day, I plugged it in in the evening, and shut off, rebooted, but the screen would go black and the phone would vibrate with 2 seconds in between vibrations. It gets to the "Samsung" word, then the screen goes black in the style of an old tube TV (with the thin white line at the end). Then the vibrations start. So far a useless phone. Took it apart and checked connections carefully (I'm used to working with processor boards quite a bit).
What do you guys suggest? Damaged memory? Should I attempt to reflash? Stuck power button (seemed ok, though)? Bad screen?
Well, probably some kind of physical damage, but hard to say. Anyway, you posted in the forum for SGH-I777 but you have the SGH-I727, so I would suggest that you look in the correct forum.
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Well, probably some kind of physical damage, but hard to say. Anyway, you posted in the forum for SGH-I777 but you have the SGH-I727, so I would suggest that you look in the correct forum.
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Oh, thanks for the heads up. Yeah I just figured out that the i727 isn't in "Top Devices" or "Legacy," so you have to go to all forums. Ugg. Already moved. Thanks to whoever notified mod.
Anyway, yeah, any help would be AWESOME. What physical damage would prevent booting past the "Samsung" screen and default to a black screen that intermittently vibrates?
I'll be honest, if ur asking that question probably something u don't have the current skill set to fix. Try to Odin back stock, but if it started post-drop you may be SOL and in need of a new phone.
Got it into download mode after multiple failed attempts. Each time I would get it into download mode, the screen would shut off after about 5 seconds of being on. I tried several combinations of plugging it in first, then installing the battery, or holding down the button while I plugged it in with no battery, etc. I had just given up after getting it into download mode briefly for the 20th time, when I gave it one more go while rocking the on and off button. Technically that is recovery mode, but I let off right before plugging the phone in and it hit download mode and stuck.
So what I am thinking is the power button got jammed internally. I have heard of it happening on other forums. Even though it looks good and clicks upon external examination, the pressure circuit on the inside might be in contact. Anyway, just one theory.
For future though, I did discover that you don't HAVE to have the USB unplugged prior to getting into download mode. On the contrary, a power source must be present in order to register that the keys are pressed PRIOR to initiating USB input. Thus, you can actually remove the battery, plug in the USB (power source), then hold the volume keys while replacing the battery. Goes into download mode that way, too.
Will keep you guys updated. Might need a bit more help if the phone starts acting up again.
At this point, if the Download mode still holds ok, should I consider CyanogenMod, or is it easier to get back a good ROM from stock?
icenight:
Thanks for the reply. I don't understand much about smart phones or how they work, but trust me when I say I have had AMPLE experience with electronics, circuit boards, hardware, etc., particularly in the computer/laptop world. I code quite a bit of websites, and understand almost all things networking and OS. Just never really got into it with the phones.
Getting super excited to see the sheer amount of modding you can do though. Would love to break into a hardware modding world if it ever comes available. That's where it's at with electronics for me.
Well glad u got it sorted, lucky guy you are lol.
As for boards and the like, if it didn't work I would've suggested replacing the motherboard and/or power daughter board. But for a skyrocket may not be worth the money.
Since you're a hardware guy, maybe mess around with the phone and JTAG? Finding a way to unbrick without it would be very helpful
Since the problems started after a physical damage (fall) , I wonder how would Odin or wipe and flash might work !
Definitely a hardware damage...
Yeah, it kinda puzzled me, too. I believe the power button might have been internally stuck, but that's just one idea. Could have been a loose connection, too.
Can you lose some solid state memory with firmware on it, but the SS memory still be OK to right another copy on?
More than likely it was your power button
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My Nexus 5 is 6 months old, it hasn't fallen hard, doesn't have a scratch on it, but today the auto-rotate feature was not working. I didn't gave it much thought, but next time I picked up my phone, the whole screen was upside down (see picture attached) and had huge lines all over it, making it very hard to figure out or read anything, and the place were all the buttons should have been were OK, instead of following the change-upside down, so to write a 'A', I have to press 'L' and so on, for everything. Basically impossible to do.
I did a hard reboot to factory settings, and even on the recovery screen everything was upside down, and nothing changed after it.
I have been searching for people with the same issue and I found nearly none or no answers to that thread.
Has anyone experienced the same issue, and what was it in the end?
My phone is under warranty from LG still, but Im afraid if I send it for repair, they will just say is a broken screen, therefore making me pay for it (around 150). If anyone thinks otherwise please say so.
I have found the same issue for other phones (older) and some people say is a broken or faulty Flex Cable. Can this be possible? (I could repair that myself)
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks!
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My Nexus 5 is 6 months old, it hasn't fallen hard, doesn't have a scratch on it, but today the auto-rotate feature was not working. I didn't gave it much thought, but next time I picked up my phone, the whole screen was upside down (see picture attached) and had huge lines all over it, making it very hard to figure out or read anything, and the place were all the buttons should have been were OK, instead of following the change-upside down, so to write a 'A', I have to press 'L' and so on, for everything. Basically impossible to do.
I did a hard reboot to factory settings, and even on the recovery screen everything was upside down, and nothing changed after it.
I have been searching for people with the same issue and I found nearly none or no answers to that thread.
Has anyone experienced the same issue, and what was it in the end?
My phone is under warranty from LG still, but Im afraid if I send it for repair, they will just say is a broken screen, therefore making me pay for it (around 150). If anyone thinks otherwise please say so.
I have found the same issue for other phones (older) and some people say is a broken or faulty Flex Cable. Can this be possible? (I could repair that myself)
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks!
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If you have warranty take it to LG.
It will be an expensive way to find out what is fauilty, the motherboard or the screen.
Hi everyone, I'm have an issue with my Nexus 5 and hoping someone here can tell me whats going on.
It started off with the sound always cutting out, and I have to press the back part near the "S" logo for it to return.
Eventually the screen would go black but I can clearly see a back light is on. Now not only does the sound cut out, and screen goes blank.
It has become very sluggish to reboot it. I hold the power button until the phone reboots "Google" logo appears and the android animation. Now during this time the phone will be so slow to the point of being crippled out and i have to reboot it again and again until it is normal speed returns. Often it will black out during this time.
I'm just trying to understand what is failing. I tried safe-mode and it still has the issue. I cleared cache, reset the phone everything, nothing appears to fix the issue at all.
edit: I forgot to add, when I'm on YT or listening to music or browsing the web, even though the screen is blank with just the back light on, the sound is still going (when it works). I get text/call notifications still during this time.
My Phone Details.
Nexus 5
Android version, 6.0.1 (MOB30Y)
no ROOT
No replies at all, I guess I may have to garbage the phone. Idk what else to do with this device to fix it.
Please don't throw it away.
You said that pushing at a specific spot fixes the problem (or improves the audio situation). This means that it's a hardware problem. I have disassembled it many times and I know the layout. Behind the 'S' of NEXUS is actually the motherboard cover, and under it are 2 connectors; one for the battery and one for an extra 'board' that is located right underneath the LG logo on your back cover. On that 'board' is your screen connector, and also the speaker rests on there, as well as the primary microphone, 3G and 4G antennas and of course the USB port. The connector for this extra board is actually located a bit to the left on the 'S' (when you look at your phone from the back, it's more below the camera).
Now I have to note this: While using my phone, I have experienced some UI hiccups. At random times (very rarely) everything would just freeze for a few minutes, though music would still play. The power button was useless apart from the hard reset, it was so badly stuck. This was a software problem, although it appeared MOST at one point when my motherboard was faulty. Since I got a new device, it happened again but only once. I'm not sure that this is what you are experiencing. If this is the case, then it's a software fault. Never happened on CM so you can give it a try.
But since it's probably a hardware problem, you can always check it out yourself. Obviously if you have warranty you are covered. Otherwise, you can try disassembling it, at least take the back cover and the motherboard cover off, it's ridiculously easy, there is a disassembly guide from ifixit (I think) online, just be careful not to break the clips of the back cover (xp talking). If you open it, keep away metal things and the first thing you do after you remove the motherboard cover is remove the battery (xp talking again). Obviously turn off the phone properly before you attempt anything. Everything is sensitive in there so be careful. What you should look for is the long connector that connects the extra board that is located at the bottom of the phone with the motherboard. That's what you are pushing so if it's not sitting correctly, then that's your problem.
Plus, everything in there, apart from the motherboard, is cheap and can be found on eBay so don't worry if something is broken (unless it's the motherboard, then no hope ).
I hope I helped.
Firstly thanks for the reply. I did manage to remove the back and get to the connector you were saying. I reseated this and noticed the phone was working much better. I noticed the following still.
When it starts acting slow/crippled pressing this connector fixes the issue. However once the screen goes black with just a backlight this method is rendered useless. Also sometimes when I plug in the wire to charge it will cripple and or go black. So I wondering if the board is shot as you suggested to order a new one, or is it the connector strip ?
Again thank you for the response.
It seems like this board is causing everything. First, check the connector on the motherboard. Make sure that nothing is wrong on the motherboard. Then you can remove the bottom black plastic thing that has the speaker on it and 2 antennas. Then, inspect this board. Check the connector of the display. There is only one big connector on it. This board is glued on the frame of the phone. You can remove it but do it carefully. Do it slowly so that you don't break it. First, remove the antennas extension cables from either this board or the motherboard, and then pull it out.
This board is definately responsible for the black screens and audio issues (unless your display is faulty, check its connector), but I'm not sure about the phone being sluggish. Since this board offers input to the motherboard, I suppose that it could be its fault.
Remove it and inspect everything. Then, if you want, you can order a new one. If you come across D820 and D821 models, I don't think that this part of the phone has anything to do with it so don't worry.
I will take a further look into this for sure, and report back. If you can provide which motherboard is required for my device, so I can also read into this and so that I may order it right-away. Is there any model number or something that indicates which board to order once it is open?
Thanks again!
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I will take a further look into this for sure, and report back. If you can provide which motherboard is required for my device, so I can also read into this and so that I may order it right-away. Is there any model number or something that indicates which board to order once it is open?
Thanks again!
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You don't need to change the motherboard, not to mention it's very expensive and hard to find. What you need to replace is probably the flex cable that goes below the battery. For example this.
This is not model specific, you can use it with all available Nexus 5 models (D820/D821, 16/32GB) so it doesn't matter what device you have.
FYI, if you think that you should replace your motherboard (you probably shouldn't), you need to take into account the storage (16/32GB) and the network differences (D820 or D821, the only difference is about the 4G networking, the american version has some bands enabled and some others disabled, and vice versa)
Okay, I just ordered the replacement flex cable. It is going to take about a month before it arrives from HK , I hope it fixes the issues. I will respond to this post once it is here and installed. Thanks again.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271660361300?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Okay, I just ordered the replacement flex cable. It is going to take about a month before it arrives from HK , I hope it fixes the issues. I will respond to this post once it is here and installed. Thanks again.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271660361300?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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in the meantime, pray it isn´t a motherboard issue, the conector can go bad and lose a few solder joints
I have exactly the same problem... I unmounted motherboard and clean everything but didn't help to much... did you find any solution ??
Siamer no solution just waiting for my delivery of the part. However it is getting worse with the blackscreens and crippled lag.
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Siamer no solution just waiting for my delivery of the part. However it is getting worse with the blackscreens and crippled lag.
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my is the same. sometimes is working for few hours without any problems and than starting again, on the biggining it was power button problem but not I don't even touch that button (I use vol button to turn on) and sometimes screen getting black (with backlight on) and can't do anything so have to reboot... it's so anoying! Hope that parts will fix it, please let me know if you will find some solution. Today I will open phone and clean all connections etc...
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siamer
I believe the part may fix it. I noticed if i run my finger along the strip the phone may uncripple itself or just turn black all together. I'm hoping it fixes it. I will report asap but this HK shipping is so slow it will be a month. Also there is no tracking
ATM i'am just trying to becareful with it trying not to trigger the issue. I just did an OTA update using FlashFire (6.0.1 (MOB31E) i wish v.7 will be available for my Nexus 5 ha ha!
Also if the Nexus 7p arrives I may just buy it to replace this Nexus5.
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I believe the part may fix it. I noticed if i run my finger along the strip the phone may uncripple itself or just turn black all together. I'm hoping it fixes it. I will report asap but this HK shipping is so slow it will be a month. Also there is no tracking
ATM i'am just trying to becareful with it trying not to trigger the issue. I just did an OTA update using FlashFire (6.0.1 (MOB31E) i wish v.7 will be available for my Nexus 5 ha ha!
Also if the Nexus 7p arrives I may just buy it to replace this Nexus5.
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Hi Omega59.
Today I bought air compressed can(name: air dust) and open my nexus 5 as much as I could. I clean everything, every connector, every cable etc. and last few hours is working fine... even power button is working ok. I will let you know in next few hours how it will be, hope will be still ok
Good luck!
siamer
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there is still same problem, working better than before, black screen not showing so often but still showing... I think tomorrow I will order oneplus3... Would be nice wait to see new nexus but how... :/
Yeah I'm not sure when the Nexus 7p will arrive, they not even advertised much. I will assume next year?
OnePlus 3 looks nice, but compared to Galaxy 7 it's a bit better slightly. You should check out comparison charts
Maybe they are making a OnePlus 4 soon.
oneplus 3 already ordered. I don't like samsung. I would say nexus "7p" or "pixel xl" will be launch october as always prabaly 4th of october - leaks saing that... next oneplus will be launch around july next year as I know. the only phone that I was thinking about was oneplus, htc10 or new nexus but can't wait to see nexus...
today by excident I broke screen in my nexus 5, got a little bit angry
Regards,
siamer
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Siamer no solution just waiting for my delivery of the part. However it is getting worse with the blackscreens and crippled lag.
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You probably don't want to hear this, but if it's getting worse, it's probably because of the pressure you apply to it, you make it worse. Be careful when you apply pressure around the motherboard since it's very sensitive. You REALLY don't want to break the motherboard. So if you find yourself pushing on the motherboard too often, you might want to leave it and wait for the replacement part so you won't ruin it.
Waiting for your news...
My part arrived yesterday. I put it in was pretty easy, however the first attempt i had to redo the top connector bc it was still black screen and no audio. After I disconnected the top connector ran some alcohol over it, re-put the top part things are working okay.
Just a note, the little USB connector (charger slot) seems to be very tight compared to the old one. Maybe bc it's new and not as worn down. But even just to put the wire in, requires more of a push, same with removing it.
I will see how it goes before I can really say that was the issue. I will report after a few days about it.
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oneplus 3 already ordered. I don't like samsung. I would say nexus "7p" or "pixel xl" will be launch october as always prabaly 4th of october - leaks saing that... next oneplus will be launch around july next year as I know. the only phone that I was thinking about was oneplus, htc10 or new nexus but can't wait to see nexus...
today by excident I broke screen in my nexus 5, got a little bit angry
Regards,
siamer
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I don't think N7P will be out this year, they have not advertised anything and we are almost in Oct. Right now they are all rumors.
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My part arrived yesterday. I put it in was pretty easy, however the first attempt i had to redo the top connector bc it was still black screen and no audio. After I disconnected the top connector ran some alcohol over it, re-put the top part things are working okay.
Just a note, the little USB connector (charger slot) seems to be very tight compared to the old one. Maybe bc it's new and not as worn down. But even just to put the wire in, requires more of a push, same with removing it.
I will see how it goes before I can really say that was the issue. I will report after a few days about it.
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When I changed my screen and housing it was difficult to slide the USB connector in too. Just make sure that everything is in place, there is a rubber think for the microphone, maybe that's what's in the way. Don't stress the connector too much.
Hey Guys so i have searched high and low for a solution and still can't figure out a fix. i've read on sony forums that other people experienced the same issue but can't find a fix. I got the phone second hand (risky i know but i took a gamble) and it already have android pie. At first it was working great and i was quite happy with the phone but as i started using it every now and then it would reset itself at random, even in my pocket, then it started freezing when i unlocked it and eventually reset and work again for a bit. from the start the volume up button was not working but i can deal with that. on other threads i have read that some people are having the exact same issue. Help is very much appreciated.
So far i've tried turning off fingerprint unlock, uninstalling apps, turning off auto brightness, turning off the code unlock, factory reset, flashing to android oreo, and running in safe mode and so far none of that has fixed the issue. (although it helped temporarily giving me false hope!)
i'm going to try flashing back to nougat as a last resort but am not going to have too much false hope. Thanks for reading and any help in advance!
leemo89 said:
Hey Guys so i have searched high and low for a solution and still can't figure out a fix. i've read on sony forums that other people experienced the same issue but can't find a fix. I got the phone second hand (risky i know but i took a gamble) and it already have android pie. At first it was working great and i was quite happy with the phone but as i started using it every now and then it would reset itself at random, even in my pocket, then it started freezing when i unlocked it and eventually reset and work again for a bit. from the start the volume up button was not working but i can deal with that. on other threads i have read that some people are having the exact same issue. Help is very much appreciated.
So far i've tried turning off fingerprint unlock, uninstalling apps, turning off auto brightness, turning off the code unlock, factory reset, flashing to android oreo, and running in safe mode and so far none of that has fixed the issue. (although it helped temporarily giving me false hope!)
i'm going to try flashing back to nougat as a last resort but am not going to have too much false hope. Thanks for reading and any help in advance!
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You pretty much ruled out a software issue by reverting back to Oreo and all that.
Volume rocker isn't something that just fails on these phones, so that's suspicious to me.
In most cases freezing/rebooting is caused by a faulty current supply (battery) and distribution (conectors, cables, capacitors...), if the software issue is ruled out. Faulty screen, screen connector and cable can cause freezes, the phone itself doesn't freeze up, but the image on the screen does, so it looks like the entire phone freezed, but it didn't, just the screen. Again, this as well can be caused by bad power delivery to the screen.
I would take it apart, take a closer look at the board, connectors, possible corrosion and dirt on capacitors, and replace the battery since it probably hasn't been replaced ever, and it's now a fairly old phone, and second hand, god knows how was it charged and treated in general.
If you never opened a phone before, I wouldn't suggest you start with this one, it's not really "novice friendly". Take it to someone who does board level repairs.
My best bet would be the phone was opened and some service has been done on it, but not properly+bad battery/battery connection.
Volume rocker is very easy to mess up, if you don't reseat it well it can fail to register pushing the button.
There really isn't a simple straightforward answer to you issue, if the software is 100% ruled out, the board and battery needs to be checked out, specially if the phone was opened before.
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You pretty much ruled out a software issue by reverting back to Oreo and all that.
Volume rocker isn't something that just fails on these phones, so that's suspicious to me.
In most cases freezing/rebooting is caused by a faulty current supply (battery) and distribution (conectors, cables, capacitors...), if the software issue is ruled out. Faulty screen, screen connector and cable can cause freezes, the phone itself doesn't freeze up, but the image on the screen does, so it looks like the entire phone freezed, but it didn't, just the screen. Again, this as well can be caused by bad power delivery to the screen.
I would take it apart, take a closer look at the board, connectors, possible corrosion and dirt on capacitors, and replace the battery since it probably hasn't been replaced ever, and it's now a fairly old phone, and second hand, god knows how was it charged and treated in general.
If you never opened a phone before, I wouldn't suggest you start with this one, it's not really "novice friendly". Take it to someone who does board level repairs.
My best bet would be the phone was opened and some service has been done on it, but not properly+bad battery/battery connection.
Volume rocker is very easy to mess up, if you don't reseat it well it can fail to register pushing the button.
There really isn't a simple straightforward answer to you issue, if the software is 100% ruled out, the board and battery needs to be checked out, specially if the phone was opened before.
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Thanks for the comprehensive reply, so would system ui not responding also be due to the hardware? I just thought it was strange that some other people had posted pretty much the exact same issues.. I'll start looking around for someone to pull it apart for me. I've done some screen repairs on one phones but I'm not willing to screw this one up so I'll find an expert!
leemo89 said:
Thanks for the comprehensive reply, so would system ui not responding also be due to the hardware? I just thought it was strange that some other people had posted pretty much the exact same issues.. I'll start looking around for someone to pull it apart for me. I've done some screen repairs on one phones but I'm not willing to screw this one up so I'll find an expert!
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Ofcoruse, mostly power delivery. If for example the cpu or the screen isn't getting correct voltage and power, it can missbehave or freeze up as a failsafe to prevent damage.
As I said, I would take a look at the board, and change the battery with a known good one, since I have spares lying arround, to eliminate that variable as well as software.
I presume you're not rooted and you're troubleshooting using oem firmwares. If not, all bets are off.
A faulty battery can be a culprit of many issues that look like software/ui issues, but they're not.
Make a full software repair with latest official version, if it fixes nothing, it's a hardware issue.
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Ofcoruse, mostly power delivery. If for example the cpu or the screen isn't getting correct voltage and power, it can missbehave or freeze up as a failsafe to prevent damage.
As I said, I would take a look at the board, and change the battery with a known good one, since I have spares lying arround, to eliminate that variable as well as software.
I presume you're not rooted and you're troubleshooting using oem firmwares. If not, all bets are off.
A faulty battery can be a culprit of many issues that look like software/ui issues, but they're not.
Make a full software repair with latest official version, if it fixes nothing, it's a hardware issue.
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Thanks very much, I'll give that a go first!
If it fails where and you are close to me (Melbourne Aus) how would you like a project?
I share with you my personal experience.
The phone is amazing, is very fast, efficient, amazing sound, amazing screen.
I have the same problem with the volume up bottom but in my case it was caused for a fall incident, I took it apart and I discovered there is one flex connector that goes from the mother board and is shared with the volume bottoms, the power- fingerprint sensor, the camera bottom, the lower speaker and the lower microphone.
In fact due to that fall I am having problems with the volume up bottom as I wrote, the lower microphone, the lower speaker and sometimes the fingerprint function does not work.
I think is still worth having the cel phone, I`ll search for the flex to fix it up
I think most of the description Zagreb does of your case can be adjusted to the reality of what is happening, I think is necessary a technical checking of the hardware.
I'M sorry, of course I meant buttons and not bottoms!
Freezing, unresponsive ui and volume buttons not working properly.
I've had this same issue for a few weeks tried hard resets safe mode, etc, nothing helped. So after much frustration searching forums to no avail I set to and tried a deeper investigation into my own device, I accessed the dev options and looked at power hungry services. The most hungry was Xperia home so I stopped it and low and behold my phone hasn't locked up since, still volume buttons are mostly not working but I'm not locked out any more.
Same here,
First randomly reboot, after factory reset randomly system UI failed constantly , very annoying.
Indeed button up volume is not working (properly).
Someone found solution for this? I already purchased a new battery.
@Chernob0g : how you disabled/stopped Xperia Home so I in meantime can use my phone.
Replaced battery, looks better now.
Volume up still not working, but freezing looks solved.