I'm currently S-ON and have non rooted stock ROM. I wonder if my phone would be rootable if I apply the official OTA update? Since it installs new HBOOT, would revolutionary be able to S-OFF it?
Check the revolutionary.io website, it pre determines before you download whether if your current setup is rootable.
I don't know if you can S-OFF and root after the update, but I DO KNOW, that you better don't do it before the update.
I have S-OFFed my phone using revolutionary and rooted using this su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip through the clockworkmod. But after latest OTA update I wasn't able to boot anymore and it pretty messed up my phone. After 4 hours I was able to repair my totally useless phone hopefully.
Hi Friends,
Have a few questions pls, Thanks in advance.
1 What is the difference between official OTA update & RUU update?
2 Is it required to have a rooted phone to make RUU?
3 In case a phone is rooted already, will it be able to be updated by official RUU?
4 Are there any diff betwee n OTA & RUU in terms of settings, regional configuration, stability.. .etc?
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1. OTA is incremental and doesn't erase anything. RUU is complete and erases everything.
2. No.
3. Yes.
4. Completely different things, since OTA is incremental and upgrades your existing ROM. Can't compare apples to oranges.
Thanks, but what is the major disadvantage of RUU, I understand it will erase all my data & will have to restore data & applications, is there anything else that make it a second choice?
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Why is it second choice? It's not about choice, it's about picking the right tool for the job. When you want to get OS upgrade, OTA is better - because you get the upgrade without extra pain (without starting everything from scratch). When you suspect your phone is misbehaving, or for some other reason want to restore your phone to the stock state - RUU is the way to go. They're not "better" than each other, they're different, for different occasions.
And im new to this stuff and if you can say or give the link to the thread where i can find what ota is it would be perfect, i searched xda but all i found was roms with ota
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OTA is "Over-The-Air", so unless it arrives to your phone automatically, as it's supposed to - I believe people aren't keeping OTAs anymore. Once, when Nexus One was still considered a new phone, they did - but not anymore, for a long time now. In the forum you'll only be able to find RUUs, I believe.
In case a phone is rooted already, will it be able to be updated by official OTA?
It seems that OTA does not work for me anymore after I S-OFF'd and rooted.
I know also flashed a new radio. Does that affect the possibility of OTA in any way?
Cheers.
OTA doesn't care about rooting or S-OFFing. If there is OTA standing - it'll be delivered to the phone. Installing it might be problematic (can't be installed by custom recovery without disabling signature check), but the delivery WILL happen. S-OFF doesn't affect OTA in any way. If you don't get OTA - that's because there is no OTA, the servers are stopped.
I see. Signature check be the problem. Any solution for that?
This is only relevant if you have stock rooted ROM and custom recovery.
In that case, you need to locate the ZIP file downloaded by system update, and install it manually in recovery, skipping signature detection.
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5. I've just received this system update OTA - 1.47.61.1 or later. If I install it, will I loose my S-OFF and root?
- Yes, you will lose both S-OFF and root once you update because it will update the hboot to 0.98.0002. However, you can try following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16110608&postcount=5 to update the OTA but not the hboot. Check this one out also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190992 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194488 to S-OFF and root if you have updated the OTA.
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I decided that it is probably not a good idea to go down to OTA route.
Hi,
I had the stock rom RUU_Saga_S_HTC_ARA_2.14.415.3_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U and I wanted to install the European RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.9_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U. But in the install process there was an 155 error. I tried some times but the same result. I read here a lot and finally I unlocked the phone HTCDEV as my hboot is 2.00.0002 and flash 4EXT_Recovery_v2.2.7_RC5 and ICE_DS_4.4 rom.
I experience some problem with this rom, so is it possible to install the european ruu of GB?
Yes, if you use goldcard or if you're SuperCID (which can only happen on this phone if you unlock it with XTC-Clip).
If you didn't understand something from the above - Google it.
Jack_R1 said:
Yes, if you use goldcard or if you're SuperCID (which can only happen on this phone if you unlock it with XTC-Clip).
If you didn't understand something from the above - Google it.
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I know the words goldcard and supercid. I saw few threads name them . Thanks for the reply I will try the goldcard.
So i made my sd card Goldcard. what's next, in order to install stock european ruu GB? some guidance maybe?
Relock your bootloader and immediately install (without exiting FASTBOOT USB mode).
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Relock your bootloader and immediately install (without exiting FASTBOOT USB mode).
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I relocked the phone and when i try to install the european ruu it gives me the error 140, and stuck in bootloader. Then I install the ARA ruu and all gone well the phone runs well.
The problem though exists. I want the european ruu and not the ara ruu. Any ideas?
Back when I was still on stock Android 2.3 I got an OTA update asking me if I wanted to install ICS I ignored it and proceeded to flash 3.33 firmware and install Cyanogen10. Recently, I used the TMOUS 1.27 RUU and went back to stock ROM and whenever I go to the update settings it does not prompt me or can find the ICS update. Is there a way I can get back to a point where the ROM would be able to find/receive official OTAs again?
(I know I can install the official ICS through RUU but I want to get my phone back to a state where it can receive official OTAs again)
TMOUS 1.27 RUU is the latest for the Tmous version iirc
so its obvious that you wont have any more updates
ganeshp said:
TMOUS 1.27 RUU is the latest for the Tmous version iirc
so its obvious that you wont have any more updates
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Its gingerbread though...
Does the 1.06 hboot (just downgraded yesterday) allow you to flash roms without flashing the boot.img seperately or is that only possible with S-Off? I reverted my supercid back to TMOB-010 after downgrading if that makes any diff.
Daiskei said:
Does the 1.06 hboot (just downgraded yesterday) allow you to flash roms without flashing the boot.img seperately or is that only possible with S-Off? I reverted my supercid back to TMOB-010 after downgrading if that makes any diff.
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If you use TWRP then it does, its the reason I downgraded.
I'll sneak in a question here...
Apart from the official OTA not working, which doesnt work with unlocked bootloader anyway, is there any downside with downgrading hboot?
Im still not sure why the hboot would need downgrading, but everyones talking about it so I guess there gotta be a reason for it lol
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I'll sneak in a question here...
Apart from the official OTA not working, which doesnt work with unlocked bootloader anyway, is there any downside with downgrading hboot?
Im still not sure why the hboot would need downgrading, but everyones talking about it so I guess there gotta be a reason for it lol
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OTA can be flashed on unlocked bootloader but need to have stock recovery. there is no downsides but a bunch of upsides like TWRP flashing boot.img also change radio and wifi partitions and also do this sweet mod.
Concur with Darknites--
I was lucky and got .06 "out of the box". Don't need ADB/Fastboot/Flash Image GUI for boot images.
Can flash all roms with boot image inside them and any radio/recovery I want thru Fastboot.
Only now just started using CM Installer to flash whatever radio I want on CM roms--but, that is a different matter.
I just did the last official OTA update (I actually found nothing wrong with that update except the battery history screen) and now i have Hboot 2.15.
Can I downgrade to Hboot 1.06 (the original Hboot i got with the device) and then root the device?
Thanks
yz250il said:
I just did the last official OTA update (I actually found nothing wrong with that update except the battery history screen) and now i have Hboot 2.15.
Can I downgrade to Hboot 1.06 (the original Hboot i got with the device) and then root the device?
Thanks
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Yes, you can
ok so I have a ATT one x phone that I just RUUed to 2.20. I am successfully unlocked and rooted, twrp is installed and I am ready to flash a custom ROM. right now I am S-on.
Can I accept the OTA to 3.18 without consequence? should I S-off and then update? I would like the new firmware and radio and then just flash a custom jellybean ROM, or I can just do it manually afterward.
I have no problem just applying anew ROM but if I can get the newest radio/firmware first it would just save a few steps.
Don't take the OTA, you can't install an OTA on a modified device. Plus, even if it did work it would undo all the work you've done. The best way to update your firmware is via the 3.18 RUU, but you must get s-off first or you'll brick. So get s-off then run the RUU. Don't worry about relocking your bootloader, that isn't required. Once you've run the RUU just flash TWRP again and you'll be good to flash a ROM.
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