I think these are probably two of the best phones being released this year. The ZL just hit the FCC for att and the Z is over seas basically the same phone just one got notification LED and the US ZL isnt fully water proof like the OG Z.
Anyway i want to compare the phones both design wise and spec wise which you think is better or would prefer.
To me i like both appearance wise, the only thing i dis like about the sony is non removable (smaller batter) than the s4. 2370mah vs 2600...
The other thing is which one packs the most speed under the hood... Im not to familiar with the Chipset, Qualcomm MDM9215M / APQ8064
CPU Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait, GPU Adreno 320 thats in the sony. And depending on which variant of s4 you get then there is snapdragon and exynos..
So thoughts anyone... I dont want this to be a bash this or that thread just honest comparison of the two as i think the xperia z is one of if not the closet contender to the s4 for 1080p smart phones
xperia z screen = eww =no
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xperia z screen = eww =no
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I have a Z and the screen is phenomenal, much better than the One X and GS3, it just doesn't look too good on videos...
Overall, I love my XZ, the waterproof is really cool and I like to show that feature off.
I prefer Sony due to their developer-friendliness and higher build quality.
I also love their UI, Samsung's just doesn't do it for me, and their phones don't look too nice to me either.
That is not to say that Samsung make bad phones, the specs are usually ahead (on paper), and I'm sure there are people who like the phone design/UI choices that Samsung make...
xL3thalTuRdZz said:
I have a Z and the screen is phenomenal, much better than the One X and GS3, it just doesn't look too good on videos...
Overall, I love my XZ, the waterproof is really cool and I like to show that feature off.
I prefer Sony due to their developer-friendliness and higher build quality.
I also love their UI, Samsung's just doesn't do it for me, and their phones don't look too nice to me either.
That is not to say that Samsung make bad phones, the specs are usually ahead (on paper), and I'm sure there are people who like the phone design/UI choices that Samsung make...
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oh god comparing a 1080p to 720p and someothing not even. compare it to any other 1080p. thats where the ew comes in lol
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oh god comparing a 1080p to 720p and someothing not even. compare it to any other 1080p. thats where the ew comes in lol
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With such a high pixel density, you can't really say that a 1080p phone screen looks that different to a 720p one... (I own both an XT and an XZ, and they look almost identical)
There isn't exactly a plethora of 1080p phones to compare it to at the moment anyway.
I have found that I prefer Sony's TFT displays, they are less saturated, although the viewing angles are worse (which is fine, I hold my phone in-front of me, not sideways )
But whatever, I'm not gonna say whether one is 'the best', these are just my opinions...
xL3thalTuRdZz said:
I have a Z and the screen is phenomenal, much better than the One X and GS3, it just doesn't look too good on videos...
Overall, I love my XZ, the waterproof is really cool and I like to show that feature off.
I prefer Sony due to their developer-friendliness and higher build quality.
I also love their UI, Samsung's just doesn't do it for me, and their phones don't look too nice to me either.
That is not to say that Samsung make bad phones, the specs are usually ahead (on paper), and I'm sure there are people who like the phone design/UI choices that Samsung make...
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oh god comparing a 1080p to 720p and someothing not even. compare it to any other 1080p. thats where the ew comes in lol
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Don't even try to compare LCD Vs (S)AMOLED. It's not the same technology at all. (S)AMOLED is great for people loving over saturated colors (including me), whilst LCD is for people that are more into life like colors. But....
The Xperia Z is having some serious problems with its display. Consistency is the word here and the Z doesn't seem to use the same display across devices. Some devices uses Sharp displays whilst some devices uses JDC. (S)AMOLED devices has excellent viewing angles, SLCD2/3 panels are also excellent, but the Z's TFT is quite disappointing. It's a really great device - and dev friendly, but the screen is toataly ruining it for me.
The S4? Really boring. It's packed with new features, but it's soooo boring. We've seen it before.
This is my own opinion.
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Don't even try to compare LCD Vs (S)AMOLED. It's not the same technology at all. (S)AMOLED is great for people loving over saturated colors (including me), whilst LCD is for people that are more into life like colors. But....
The Xperia Z is having some serious problems with its display. Consistency is the word here and the Z doesn't seem to use the same display across devices. Some devices uses Sharp displays whilst some devices uses JDC. (S)AMOLED devices has excellent viewing angles, SLCD2/3 panels are also excellent, but the Z's TFT is quite disappointing. It's a really great device - and dev friendly, but the screen is toataly ruining it for me.
The S4? Really boring. It's packed with new features, but it's soooo boring. We've seen it before.
This is my own opinion.
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I see what you mean, and I understand why some people would choose AMOLED over TFT, I guess I'm just one of the people who prefer TFT...
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Oh ya totally forgot about the different screens. For i probably wouldn't care which my phone had.
Personally i like the s4 since its got the latest tech but to me they did good tech wise but are getting lazy in the appearance and software side of the phone game..
Sure you could probably say a galaxy looks the way it does because that makes it a galaxy but I feel the s4 should of had a bold new design and either less of a tw skin or a completely overhauled tw like no one has ever seen before. Guess I'm getting bored with they're products that's why i am leaning toward the zl because i like the software skin and design of the phone...
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Never thought i would say it but Galaxy s4
Not even a competition.. the s4 on everything besides build quality..
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LOL Xperia Z is joke :laugh:
last year SoC - no IPS display - Android 4.1.2 - Crappy speaker - Glass back ...meh - its overheat when use it for a while
just forgot it
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Not even a competition.. the s4 on everything besides build quality..
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I agree but i feel it comes down to personal taste as far as design and os goes but I'm kinda getting bored of samsungs lack of serious innovation in those areas and its just plain boring to be honest. Same software dame design over the years...
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In some models they have used cheaper e-ips and in some the better ips.
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AW: S4 Vs Xperia Z/ZL
Some people should buy Sony or HTC phones. I don't want to wake up one day and Samsung phones are the only Android phones available.
But I want removable battery and sd card slot. Therfore S4 for me!
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xL3thalTuRdZz said:
I have a Z and the screen is phenomenal, much better than the One X and GS3, it just doesn't look too good on videos...
Overall, I love my XZ, the waterproof is really cool and I like to show that feature off.
I prefer Sony due to their developer-friendliness and higher build quality.
I also love their UI, Samsung's just doesn't do it for me, and their phones don't look too nice to me either.
That is not to say that Samsung make bad phones, the specs are usually ahead (on paper), and I'm sure there are people who like the phone design/UI choices that Samsung make...
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Yeah. I love the Z's display.
It's slightly behind the GS4 in terms of CPU (1.5 GHz quad Krait instead of 1.9) - but that really only matters on benchmark epeen. The raw hardware performance advantage will be thrown away by Samsung's bloat and atrocious software incompetence. Samsung Touchwizz is revolting and bloated, constantly assaulting you to sign up for a Samsung account until you give in or nuke the bloat. Sony's stock firmware, on the other hand, is so clean and well done that the ONLY thing I've done to my device after rooting so far has been to freeze the charge reminder in TiBu.
I'll be switching to CM10.1 soon, but that's more because I'm a CM maintainer and that is what I do, not because of deficiencies in the Sony stock firmware. If I had to run 100% unmodified stock on a device, the Z is the first non-Nexus device I've felt that I might be able to tolerate such an experience.
LordManhattan said:
Don't even try to compare LCD Vs (S)AMOLED. It's not the same technology at all. (S)AMOLED is great for people loving over saturated colors (including me), whilst LCD is for people that are more into life like colors. But....
The Xperia Z is having some serious problems with its display. Consistency is the word here and the Z doesn't seem to use the same display across devices. Some devices uses Sharp displays whilst some devices uses JDC. (S)AMOLED devices has excellent viewing angles, SLCD2/3 panels are also excellent, but the Z's TFT is quite disappointing. It's a really great device - and dev friendly, but the screen is toataly ruining it for me.
The S4? Really boring. It's packed with new features, but it's soooo boring. We've seen it before.
This is my own opinion.
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Exactly my opinion
The S4 is really boring and the XZ is the first sony competitor with the galaxy line of samsung so I think the next xperia show be better.
Soo.. waiting for an S5 flexible screen and water-proof. I need something mind blowing or I wont buy it. Like the transition from SGS to GS2.
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LOL Xperia Z is joke :laugh:
last year SoC - no IPS display - Android 4.1.2 - Crappy speaker - Glass back ...meh - its overheat when use it for a while
just forgot it
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Totally agree
Xperia Z is a sealed phone loads of overheating issues... But waterproof is some major innovation i loved.. something not any other manufacturer thought off.. Besides I expected more from samsung..
Xperia Z S4
443ppi 441ppi
BE 2 disp. Phanoled disp.
Built Quality Features
the rest is almost similar.....:good: :highfive:
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Never thought i would say it but Galaxy s4
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That's because the XZ can't compete. It has a subpar 1080p screen with washed out colors and really bad viewing angles, the speakers position is ridiculous and the speaker itself isn't that loud and clear, It LAGS like hell when you use the Sony launcher especially when you add more widgets and battery life isn't great. Plus it has some overheating issues. I think Sony will do better next year and this device is something to build up on, but it cannot compete with either the S IV or the One.
Flame war thread
As long as u put vs in the title that's what u get
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I had a S2, loved it. Upgraded to S3, detested it. Now have an Xperia Z, its phenominal.
S4 is Ugly.
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That's because the XZ can't compete. It has a subpar 1080p screen with washed out colors and really bad viewing angles, the speakers position is ridiculous and the speaker itself isn't that loud and clear, It LAGS like hell when you use the Sony launcher especially when you add more widgets and battery life isn't great. Plus it has some overheating issues. I think Sony will do better next year and this device is something to build up on, but it cannot compete with either the S IV or the One.
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I've owned the Xperia Z since launch...
The display is very good, going from an S3, I have no regrets. Colours are good. Viewing angles are good too, slight change on colours ay extreme angles. My GS3 used to get a multi coloured sheen at extreme angles. Speaker is fine, location can be awkward but I rarely accidently cover it up with my hands.
In no way is the XZ laggy, I've not experienced this, infact its the most fluid handset I've owned.
Battery is good, needed cycling, lasts alot longer than my GS3 ever did. Also my GS2 and GS3 overheated more than my XZ.
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Hi all,
Looking to get a new contract and i'm torn, i actually work as tech support in a phone shop and i'm stumped as to what to pick, I'm a big fan of sense but I'm an eye out, the razr for example is a lovely looking phone but it's senseless and it is a motorola, i've heard bad things about them.
The XL is a beast but it's only single core, i love the size, it's perfect for me and the screen is very vibrant plus it has snazzy headphones.
The evo is everything i want but it's a little small, i know the screen size isn't tiny but next to the xl it is, an xl evo hybrid would be magic.
The SGS2 is hardware wise a decent phone but again i'm not a fan of senseless phones.
And finally the Galaxy Nexus, one of my colleagues has it and it's a gorgeous looking phone, it does everything very well and it hides the fact that it's senseless very well.
I may go for this, but I can only get it on the three network were i am plus i wouldn't be able to get it today, as i don't have my ID.
I'm using the Lumia at the moment and it's a lovely phone but the lack of apps and the restrictions, the price of the apps, the whole experience is being hindered by these limitations.
anyone with experience of these phones, hands on or if they have them, what would you decide on?
Are there any phones in the near future which i should hold out for?
Any help would be good.
Cheers.
I think that you should buy the SGS2.
not getting this sorry... according to your sig you own already 2 htc devices where the sensation is quite new and not much of adifference to the sgs2. would either pick the galaxy nexus or wait for the s3.
My priority list for fones--
1.)Galaxy Nexus (for sure)
2.)SgS2 + 2000mAh battery(will get ICS later on, but i am patient enough for that)
3.)XL (size is downside for me coz i Have BuTTerFingers
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Razr or galaxy nexus for sure.
If the razr had ics i would switch over to verizon in a heart beat. Phone looks so niceeee and has.good specs as well.
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from ur selection i really would go with either the galaxy s2 or galaxy nexus and since im a vanilla lover id def go with the galaxy nexus ...nexus phones ftw.
go mess with the phones at the store and decide for yourself. threads like this are pointless, imho. each device will have its fanboys and haters.
all i can say is galaxy nexus looks superior to others for now. wait a few months and something better will drop, dropping its value to 300-400 bucks.
Galaxy S2
Why?
The most powerful GPU
Best camera
Great battery
Fast UI that NEVER lags
Super lite and thin
Brilliant display.
You're a veteran of three HTC devices, so I wouldn't even look at the Evo or XL. Razr... Motorola... bleh.
Go for GN or SGS2. In that order.
rawrfische said:
You're a veteran of three HTC devices, so I wouldn't even look at the Evo or XL. Razr... Motorola... bleh.
Go for GN or SGS2. In that order.
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The GN has a crappy camera. Avoid. GS2 > GN
POLO_i780 said:
Galaxy S2
Why?
The most powerful GPU
Best camera
Great battery
Fast UI that NEVER lags
Super lite and thin
Brilliant display.
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Oh im sorry but the best camera phone in 2011 is the sensation and its been proven by the cnet and the best ui is always sense
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I'd go for the GN for the updates.
yeah, other phones get it... eventually, but with a Nexus phone, you'll always be up to date, months in advance of everyone else.
plus phone looks great... not too crazy about the build quality as it's a Samsung phone but, nice design non the less.
5mp vs. 8mp... mp don't mean crap. what's more important is the sensor. (have not tried out the GN's camera to comment. just stating in general)
don't buy into the Beats Audio nonsense. it's pure marketing. better headphones/EQ settings out on the market.
Dare I suggest either the note (friend has one and it is huge) or wait until ces / mwc
Or get the nexus
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POLO_i780 said:
Galaxy S2
Why?
The most powerful GPU
Best camera
Great battery
Fast UI that NEVER lags
Super lite and thin
Brilliant display.
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Shame on you,
It does not have the most powerful GPU, iPhone 4S and the iPad2 have the most powerful GPU. It doesn't have the best camera, two of my friends own SGS2 and after a month or two they both experienced a lot of UI slowdowns and lagging. Surely there is a point of being too thin also considering it is made of cheap plastic? Loving the ancient WVGA display!
I'd probably go for the Razr it looks lovely!
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Shame on you,
It does not have the most powerful GPU, iPhone 4S and the iPad2 have the most powerful GPU. It doesn't have the best camera, two of my friends own SGS2 and after a month or two they both experienced a lot of UI slowdowns and lagging. Surely there is a point of being too thin also considering it is made of cheap plastic? Loving the ancient WVGA display!
I'd probably go for the Razr it looks lovely!
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Did the PW ask about an iPhone or iPad???
In terms of overall Pic quality/video quality the GS2 is the best in the PW's list.
Majority of users and reviewers will tell you the GS2 hardly slows down, its the one high end Android that can be compared to iPhone4S and WP7 phones in terms of a UI thats fast and smooth.
If it was cheap plastic there would be tons of complaints of back covers breaking, screens cracking, plastic quickly chipping etc...all over the web, and the press would be all over it, yet wait...theres none of that.
The "ancient" WVGA display has been praised due to the Super AMOLED Plus tech it uses, and is up there with the Retina display.
POLO_i780 said:
Did the PW ask about an iPhone or iPad???
In terms of overall Pic quality/video quality the GS2 is the best in the PW's list.
Majority of users and reviewers will tell you the GS2 hardly slows down, its the one high end Android that can be compared to iPhone4S and WP7 phones in terms of a UI thats fast and smooth.
If it was cheap plastic there would be tons of complaints of back covers breaking, screens cracking, plastic quickly chipping etc...all over the web, and the press would be all over it, yet wait...theres none of that.
The "ancient" WVGA display has been praised due to the Super AMOLED Plus tech it uses, and is up there with the Retina display.
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Yeah you are right...I'm a[cough-cough] proud owner of a qHD display of my sensation due to which there are less apps and games available and those available have streched UI...
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Joshhedge said:
Shame on you,
It does not have the most powerful GPU, iPhone 4S and the iPad2 have the most powerful GPU. It doesn't have the best camera, two of my friends own SGS2 and after a month or two they both experienced a lot of UI slowdowns and lagging. Surely there is a point of being too thin also considering it is made of cheap plastic? Loving the ancient WVGA display!
I'd probably go for the Razr it looks lovely!
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Are you kidding, I've done first hand comparisons to the Evo's cameras to the iPhone4 and the iPad2 and the Evo killed them easily.
The SGS2 cam is slightly better than the Evo (again first hand experience) more accurately detects lighting conditions on auto.
The Sensation camera is slightly better than the SGS2 (firsthand) capturing colors better on auto. I do love its camera button, pressure sensitive.
I haven't used the other phones so..
The cameras specs do not make it a good camera if it can capture in 1080p but its blurred, wrong exposure, colors over/under saturated, etc...
But the phones aren't all about the camera. Depending on what you want from it you need to consider how well it would be supported. What kind of accessory items will be available, like car/desk docks. If your a flashaholic then look at what phone threads get the most active developments.
My 2 cents
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I came from HTC and was HUGE Sense UI fan, now i have Google Nexus ("Galaxy") and couldn't be happier! it's by far the BEST phone i've got
Experience:
HTC Touch Pro 2
HTC Desire
HTC Desire HD
HTC Sensation
HTC Sensation XE (Borrowed)
SAMSUNG Galaxy S II
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S
SAMSUNG Galaxy Note (Won it from SAMSUNG launch contest then sold it after 2 weeks and got>>)
Google (Galaxy) Nexus!
Definitely the SGSII.
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I recommend you Galaxy S2 for sure. It's the best choice money/quality.
My upgrade isn't until Oct 1st, but I've been doing a lot of research on what phone to get. I have an OG EVO that I've been very happy with, so I'm leaning towards HTC, but the GS3 is also very impressive. Even after playing with both phones for quite awhile in the store and reading a lot of comparisons and threads online, I still can't decide. My impressions so far:
HTC EVO 4G LTE
Likes:
More accurate colors - See this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijBzWmYnZGI, starting at 6:00
Kickstand - I love the kickstand. I use it constantly on my OG EVO.
Sense UI - I'm used to it and like how it looks and feels
Physical camera button - No explanation required here.
Dislikes:
Poor multi-tasking - overly aggressive task killer
Mitigating Factor - Fixed in most ROMs
No Menu button - I don't like the three dots black bar on non-ICS compliant apps
Mitigating Factor - Can remap task list button to menu
1GB RAM - less impressive that the GS3's 2GB
Mitigating Factor - May not matter any time soon? Even Nexus 7 only has 1GB.
Low fps video recording
Mitigating Factor - I rarely record videos with my phone.
Non-replaceable battery
Mitigating Factor - Much better battery life than OG EVO, which I never used a 2nd battery anyways. I plug in everywhere.
Samsung Galaxy S3
Likes:
Good multi-tasking - I like the task manager design and it's not aggressive when it comes to killing tasks.
2GB RAM - Possibly more future proof?
30 fps video recording - Smoother videos.
Replaceable battery - Self explanatory. You run out of battery, you pop in a new one.
Dislikes:
Oversaturated colors - See video from above.
Mitigating Factor - None. The intentional version of GS3 has a display mode switch with a Natural Mode, but that's not present in the US version for some reason.
Low max brightness
Mitigating Factor - None. Could be a problem in bright daylight.
No kickstand - This is a bummer, because it's a feature I use daily on my OG EVO.
Mitigating Factor - There are cases with built-in kickstands, but not sure if that'd make the phone too thick.
TouchWiz UI - I don't like how it looks.
Mitigating Factor - Can replace it with Apex Launcher, which I do like.
Suspect build quality history - The trend with Samsung's build quality hasn't been good.
Mitigating Factor - Anecdotal reports seem to indicate that the build quality is much improved in the GS3. But it hasn't been out long enough to establish any kind of trend lines.
Anyways, thoughts and comments to help me decide?
EDIT: Also, please vote in the poll!
I'm personally proud to be an HTC fanboy. Which surprises me to no end that I would prefer sgs3. I've had the pleasure of using the both, and the sgs3 wins hands down in my honest opinion. Holding the sgs3 in your hand is like a firm welcoming handshake lol. Evo 4g lte is a good phone too, my biggest dislike is the whole battery thing. I personally stock up on at least two OEM battery's and one extended each time I buy a phone, because I like to not have to charge my phone multiple times per day.
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Thanks Anyone else have any thoughts?
EVO LTE
I am a huge fan of the EVO LTE, the only downside is that until LTE is rolled out in my area, the 3g is so slow. Overall, this phone is a huge upgrade from the OG EVO (which I loved). Photos are very clear, the menu button is no big deal when you can flash the menu remap, audio is nice a crisp on headphones.
The Galaxy S3 is the best
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S3 for me better than evo 4g
Your choice
I personally like the S3 better, but just like anything in life its personal preference. Also the devs working on the S3 in this form are great people putting out some amazing products
PasqualeITA said:
The Galaxy S3 is the best
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fabiotasa2 said:
S3 for me better than evo 4g
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I personally like the S3 better, but just like anything in life its personal preference. Also the devs working on the S3 in this form are great people putting out some amazing products
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Are there any specific factors that pushed you guys towards the S3? Thanks.
Samsung Galaxy III all the way.
tadeas482 said:
Samsung Galaxy III all the way.
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Would like to hear your reasons for choosing the SG3 over the EVO. Thanks
htc has a track record of abandoning "flagship" devices after a very short amount of time. Plus the S3 is a better phone all around.
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Would like to hear your reasons for choosing the SG3 over the EVO. Thanks
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1. It feels more smooth...the interface...it is noticebly faster
2. I prefer Samsung hardware (Exynos, Mali) over that ****ty Tegra
3. It has better GPU
4. It has better camera
5. CPUs are about the same but I actually prefer Samsung's Exynos proccessor
6. 50 Gb free on Dropbox against 25 Gb free
7. Better display(Super Amoled HD)
tadeas482 said:
1. It feels more smooth...the interface...it is noticebly faster
2. I prefer Samsung hardware (Exynos, Mali) over that ****ty Tegra
3. It has better GPU
4. It has better camera
5. CPUs are about the same but I actually prefer Samsung's Exynos proccessor
6. 50 Gb free on Dropbox against 25 Gb free
7. Better display(Super Amoled HD)
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I'm comparing the US (Sprint) versions, so they both have the same Snapdragon S4 SoC I do notice the smoothness of the SG3 though. But I wonder if Jelly Bean will equalize things? I took some pictures with both in the store, and the image quality appear comparable. Why do you say that the SG3 has a better camera?
As for the screen, I stated my preference for the more natural colors on the SLCD2 vs the over-saturated colors on the SAMOLED. Just my person preference really
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I'm comparing the US (Sprint) versions, so they both have the same Snapdragon S4 SoC I do notice the smoothness of the SG3 though. But I wonder if Jelly Bean will equalize things? I took some pictures with both in the store, and the image quality appear comparable. Why do you say that the SG3 has a better camera?
As for the screen, I stated my preference for the more natural colors on the SLCD2 vs the over-saturated colors on the SAMOLED. Just my person preference really
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With that camera...I saw sample shots and it seemed to me that S III has a better camera.
morfinx said:
I'm comparing the US (Sprint) versions...
As for the screen, I stated my preference for the more natural colors on the SLCD2 vs the over-saturated colors on the SAMOLED. Just my person preference really
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My contract is up now, and sadly my Evo 3D is starting to feel the wear and tear of it (drops, dings, trim coming off).
I've pretty much always have had HTC devices, but the S III has really peaked my interest!
Only thing I'm worried about in choosing, is the screen brightness/colors.
I was in the store today and felt like the HTC screen was crisper and brighter. The brightness on both was turned all the way up, and I'm concerned this is not something a ROM or app could increase (unlike volume and other things). Am I wrong?
Also, someone mentioned HTC's early exit from their flagship phones, and I didn't think about that... but they're right, they do abandoned their phones quicker it seems (of course, I've never had anything BUT HTC phones, so maybe it's par for the course and I'm just mad.)
Only other issue I could foresee is the physical camera button. I do use mine a lot on the 3D, and always liked it, but I wonder if I would miss it.
Again, the screen brightness/color is my biggest concern.
Any thoughts on the two?
Great thread btw!
vestaviajag said:
Only thing I'm worried about in choosing, is the screen brightness/colors.
I was in the store today and felt like the HTC screen was crisper and brighter. The brightness on both was turned all the way up, and I'm concerned this is not something a ROM or app could increase (unlike volume and other things). Am I wrong?
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That's my biggest concern. And no it's not something that can be changed in software, at least not the max brightness. But I think some people like the over-saturated colors because it tends to make pictures "pop". But it just looks really unnatural to me. Did you watch the review video I posted in the first thread? it shows you what I'm talking about (also they do an outside usability test).
Also, someone mentioned HTC's early exit from their flagship phones, and I didn't think about that... but they're right, they do abandoned their phones quicker it seems (of course, I've never had anything BUT HTC phones, so maybe it's par for the course and I'm just mad.)
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I've heard a lot of complaints about Samsung abandoning support on their phones or taking forever on releasing updates. So I don't think Samsung is any better in this area. Maybe they area bout the same?
LTEVO for me.
I dislike the way samsung bent over for apple when building the device, the pentile screen, and touchwiz UI (looks like crayola designed it). The SIII had great marketing & release on all of the major carriers.
I love the EVO's camera/camera app, HTC's build quality (Siii feels like a childs toy in my hands) & our developers. From your list in the OP, its pretty clear you prefer to LTEVO. Just make the jump.
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htc has a track record of abandoning "flagship" devices after a very short amount of time. Plus the S3 is a better phone all around.
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Hmm, if I remember correctly Samsung has the same problem + they take forever to push out updates.
OP: The processor is the same in both of them. The ram, as you said, is unneeded and probably won't be for a while. The internals are pretty much the same, so this comes down to the appereance of the device and the Evo LTE wins in the beautification department.
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I think the RAM alone is worth it, they're not too different than each other.
But in terms of futureproofing and probably development, the SGS3 is the way to go, especially if not the Verizon variant.
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I think the RAM alone is worth it, they're not too different than each other.
But in terms of futureproofing and probably development, the SGS3 is the way to go, especially if not the Verizon variant.
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By the time we get around to using that ram the processor will be out dated. OP: You could probably sweet talk yourself into an early upgrade.
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Hi guys. It's time to change my desire z at lest.
The price I am considering is somewhat around how much new xperia s consts.
I want at big screen, GOOD CAMERA pictures, good build quality. And overall fluidness of system. Dont care about 3d games that much but it would be nice to play some from time to time. battery life? I know I cant expect much but would be nice if it was not terrible.
Main candidates - feel free to add other options
Sony Xperia S (new) - It looks like good device. Only con is 2core cpu but it is highly clocked and camera seems nice?
HTC one X (used) - dont know about camera(it sure looks like its about to get scratched)
galaxy s3(used)
Nexus4 (used)
I'd go for Nexus 4. I'm just a no-go for the rest of them. I have an S3, and I'm more "wanting" for the Nexus 4 (if not for the low storage capabilities).
Not sure about the specs on the Xperia, but of the other three I'd say S3. Having an extra SD card is nice if you're going to take a lot of pictures/video - and can save you when it comes to custom ROMs and such. And being able to just switch the battery out is pretty great, too.
I'm loving my Galaxy Note 2. After I quit using my Galaxy Nexus for about a week, the large screen doesn't feel TOO big anymore. It's now comfortably large. With Jelly 'Beans' ROM installed, it is even better.
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Choose the Nexus 4!
So most people say s3. It takes better pictures than xperia s ?
Also it looks a bit too flimsy and plasticy.
about nexus4. Isnt it overheating? I've seen videos about that.
I dont need sd slot if there is 8gb or more onboard
Nexus 4 is brilliant. Mum got it as her new phone which I recommended and loves it. Played with it quite a bit and haven't noticed any overheating at all. The camera is very sharp and since the phone was designed for jellybean 4.2 already it runs very smooth. Plenty of storage space too. Also feels and looks a more solid build than the S3.
In the end your own decision mate. Both S3 and Nexus 4 are great phones.
well nexus 4 is definietly looking better than s3. both in looks, build quality and specs. Also the price is better. I could maybe find new nexus4 in the price of used s3.
it is a no brainer. But I really want best pictures possible for android phone and that overheating... it's bugging me ;/
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well nexus 4 is definietly looking better than s3. both in looks, build quality and specs. Also the price is better. I could maybe find new nexus4 in the price of used s3.
it is a no brainer. But I really want best pictures possible for android phone and that overheating... it's bugging me ;/
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Looking online maybe don't upgrade to 4.2.2? It seems most issues have been related to that update. Although ALL phones I have used heat up quite a bit under extended use like gaming or skype none of them has resulted in a shut down due to reaching an excessive temperature.
I guess it all depends on how lucky you are with your specific handset if it is stable or not
Maybe some sony xperia ? (excluding z - too expensive)
there is s, p, t and maybe some more. wtf
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Maybe some sony xperia ? (excluding z - too expensive)
there is s, p, t and maybe some more. wtf
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The Xperia T is the flagship that preceded the Z (S3, One X, Optimus G gen), at a better price (got it for $400, aka a $100 less than the rest)
I love it, smooth, nice screen, gorgeous UI, and nice cam, having a PSN account (or Sony media account in general) will give you the most of your device,. Also, beware of the locked bootloader ones (if you're into modding)
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Some people will call me mad and no one probably cares but I'm coming back to the one s! I sold mine back at the start of February and I bought a nexus 4. The nexus 4 is a nice device but stock android is incredibly plain and the software keys take up so much screen space the screen is barely bigger than the one s (except when watching videos)
The sound quality is also a big step down from the one s, The audio on the one s is 100x better the DAC and beats are the reason for this I think. And the nexus 4 is a lot quieter. Everyone's moaning about how quiet the volume output is and I'm pretty sure its hardware.
The camera is also a major downgrade, the pictures my nexus 4 takes aren't much better than what my HTC wildfire took! I'd just thought I'd let you guys know my opinion on the nexus 4 if you consider upgrading to it but I think apart from the bigger and better screen the one s beats it in every way. As for the s4 pro and 2gb of ram I've hardly noticed any difference in real world usage.
So anyone thinking they've had enough of the one s, just think you've still got a great phone I've just sold a nexus 4 to get another one s so that's how much I miss it. I'll need to get used to the non HD pentile display again which will probably take me a week or so but I'm looking forward to it A lesson to anyone who loves htc sense. Don't buy a nexus!
I don't wonder about it. One S probably will remain the best android phone of this size until HTC M4 out at Q3 end hopefully. The only weak point on One S is QHD pentile screen(some said no microSD) and all the other stuffs are very good to excellent. If I have budget problem in this year, I can imagine I could use it til next year, it's a very powerful phone. Indeed, I decided to hold One S as my backup phone though I may get a M4 or M7 later, or give it for my parents.
Plain stock android is always bad because you got too little function and settings but the best thing on nexus is you always have a perfect working CM rom. The most updated and bugs free CM. There are many hardware problems on N4 like camera and sound, make it the worst Nexus in the record.
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I don't wonder about it. One S probably will remain the best android phone of this size until HTC M4 out at Q3 end hopefully.
Plain stock android is always bad because you got too little function and settings but the best thing on nexus is you always have a perfect working CM rom. The most updated and bugs free CM.
There are many hardware problems on N4 like camera and sound, make it the worst Nexus in the record.
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I completely agree, the fact that I'm giving up a phone with a hd display for a phone with a qhd pentile display is a credit to how good the One S is. I'll only probably have it for about 4-5 months and then I'll get the HTC One when my contract runs out but the One S is great, I suppose I'm just a sense maniac. I love HTC sense.
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I completely agree, the fact that I'm giving up a phone with a hd display for a phone with a qhd pentile display is a credit to how good the One S is. I'll only probably have it for about 4-5 months and then I'll get the HTC One when my contract runs out but the One S is great, I suppose I'm just a sense maniac. I love HTC sense.
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You aren't alone to doing this mad thing..lol... I was once have a Sony Xperia S and finally sold it out for One S in June and never look back. But yep, you're right, 720P is very impressive for text reading.
Do you guys think a higher resolution would be worth it on a 4.3" screen? I come from a Galaxy S II and I agree that 800x480 is far worse than our 960x540. But going any higher would be worth it?
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Do you guys think a higher resolution would be worth it on a 4.3" screen? I come from a Galaxy S II and I agree that 800x480 is far worse than our 960x540. But going any higher would be worth it?
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I do but no higher than 720 x 1280. The 8x has that resolution and the screen is as sharp as anything. I personally think the higher resolution is great for text but apart from that it's hardly a big deal. The resolution of the one s is fine for videos and picture viewing etc. I certainly see absolutely no point in the 1080p full hd screens that they're putting in these newest flag ship phones! So I don't think it's worth it although it would be nice. Anything above 4.3" i'd say it certainly is worth a higher resolution than qhd.
I'd have to agree that 4.3" is likely the sweet spot for this screen resolution.
I'm also switching to a One S soon; I currently have an LG Optimus L9, mostly for audio purposes since a large majority of my smartphone time is spent listening to music (for its price, it's sure low on distortion and seems to be able to drive my NuForce IEMs with no fuss). Being an avid GSMArena reader, I was pleased to learn that the One S still holds some of the lowest distortion readings of all smartphones ever reviewed (and that the Snapdragon S4 really zooms on this particular device).
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I'd have to agree that 4.3" is likely the sweet spot for this screen resolution.
I'm also switching to a One S soon; I currently have an LG Optimus L9, mostly for audio purposes since a large majority of my smartphone time is spent listening to music (for its price, it's sure low on distortion and seems to be able to drive my NuForce IEMs with no fuss). Being an avid GSMArena reader, I was pleased to learn that the One S still holds some of the lowest distortion readings of all smartphones ever reviewed (and that the Snapdragon S4 really zooms on this particular device).
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You'll love it, the sound quality is superb on this phone. It's half the reason why I missed the phone in the first place! The jellybean update made the audio a bit distorted and the volume was too loud so I don't know if that's been fixed but I know the sound quality was immense on sense 4.1 on ice cream sandwich.
Wow, you guys are updating quite fast! I just bought my one s (for a bargain) and I'm hoping to keep using it for 2 years. My previous phone was a galaxy s1, so compared to that, the one s really flies
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Some people will call me mad and no one probably cares but I'm coming back to the one s! I sold mine back at the start of February and I bought a nexus 4
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Welcome back but 64 GB variant will be batter
From HTC One S
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I do but no higher than 720 x 1280. The 8x has that resolution and the screen is as sharp as anything. I personally think the higher resolution is great for text but apart from that it's hardly a big deal. The resolution of the one s is fine for videos and picture viewing etc. I certainly see absolutely no point in the 1080p full hd screens that they're putting in these newest flag ship phones! So I don't think it's worth it although it would be nice. Anything above 4.3" i'd say it certainly is worth a higher resolution than qhd.
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1080P is still useful if you are going to read some low quality pdf documents(probably scan via scanner) but WWW should be enough at 720p.
Do you think third party apps are more optimized (more fluid, stable...) on nexus 4 than on htc one s? Im thinking of switching to an iphone because of this...
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Do you think third party apps are more optimized (more fluid, stable...) on nexus 4 than on htc one s? Im thinking of switching to an iphone because of this...
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Nexus is not necessary better when you only stick with stock plain os. However, if you are willing to flash Nexus CM rom with 3rd kernels then the answer is 100% yes. But N4 is really bad at music, camera and voice call(or use BT handfree instead)........really really bad
iphone is good if you can live with the tiny screen.
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Nexus is not necessary better when you only stick with stock plain os. However, if you are willing to flash Nexus CM rom with 3rd kernels then the answer is 100% yes. But N4 is really bad at music, camera and voice call(or use BT handfree instead)........really really bad
iphone is good if you can live with the tiny screen.
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+1 to this
Apps run a little bit smoother on the nexus 4 but stock android and 4.2 are the main reason why. I just think the hardware of the device is rubbish. The dac is poor and the camera is awful. The nexus is good if you want a snappy stock android phone.
If you flash acid audio engine, music with earphones should be great, as it is on hos with cm and that mod.
Ill wait for ios 7 and key lime pie to decide, but I really dont see why not choosing a nexus instead of any other android phone: the SO is far more polished and software is always up to date. However when I see even nexus devices lagging in browser ,for example, I doubt a lot about android as SO...
Aside from the camera and sound I wouldn't go back to the one s , yea the widgets look better on sense and the theming is cool but I got rid of the soft keys thanks to a ROM and now I have the screen space jack and I really love the display ... I just wish they can make a nexus the size of a one s with HTCs camera and Googles freedom ... I know Google said the next nexus is going to have an insane camera so that might be the one!
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Matter of opinion I suppose
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Matter of opinion I suppose
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Don't fret too much guitarman (get it?) Look in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116062
Tecardo is a master of restoring bricked HTC One S, give him a PM and see if he can help you out.
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Don't fret too much guitarman (get it?) Look in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116062
Tecardo is a master of restoring bricked HTC One S, give him a PM and see if he can help you out.
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hehe I get it, nice one
Coming from my HTC 10 I love the stock Android experience, but my device is battered after years of use! I'm torn between buying the XZ Premium or the Pixel 2 (Non xl). With recent software updates what would you recommend and why?
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Sony has the better screen however is majorly beat out by the camera. The Pixel 2 also has the better speakers.
The biggest want for me is the screen, is the 4K display worth it?
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Coming from my HTC 10 I love the stock Android experience, but my device is battered after years of use! I'm torn between buying the XZ Premium or the Pixel 2 (Non xl). With recent software updates what would you recommend and why?
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The biggest want for me is the screen, is the 4K display worth it?
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If you want fastest Android updates and a better camera in low light pixel is better (but as I know pixel have lot of bugs)
If you want more features headphones jack micro SD card and etc and a bugless phone xz premium is better.
Also xz premium have stunning design in luminous chrome.
xzp has headphone jack!
How about XZ 2 premium?
Going back to your question I would recommend the XZ PREMIUM. However if you can go for the XL version then I would say go with the Pixel 2 XL.
I personally went from the xz premium to the PIXEL 2 XL and am very happy. I was waiting for the xz 2 premium but that took too long to get released so gave it a miss.
Using pure Android is an amazing feeling nevertheless.
If you can get the XZ 2 premium definitely get that as it is amazing
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Coming from my HTC 10 I love the stock Android experience, but my device is battered after years of use! I'm torn between buying the XZ Premium or the Pixel 2 (Non xl). With recent software updates what would you recommend and why?
The way I'm seeing it
Sony has the better screen however is majorly beat out by the camera. The Pixel 2 also has the better speakers.
The biggest want for me is the screen, is the 4K display worth it?
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man stay away from sony! if you are a simple user yah sony is nice and snappy but when it comes to modifying they dont do a good job!
i mean XZ2 has the same camera as xzp and its better... sony upgrades their phones by software not hardware, only rarely they upgrade the hardware on next flagships.
Pixel 2 has a great camera and its really really fast and believe it or not, all the phone reviewers and high tech people either choose iphone or pixel, some times samsung as well and they know what they are doing trust me no one holds sony dude i regret every second buying, thats just my opinion.
again just focus on what features you want in a phone and compare it in youtube. If you want camera, compare cameras in different phones and see which is better, you want speed, check comparisons, you want cool UI check comparisons, do your own research based on your needs and only then YOU can make the decision.
check this out too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi2tjMLVpdQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji6Hz0xprVg
and 4k isnt really worth it unless you want to root the phone.
even after rooting its a pain in the a** to get to enabling native 4k, yes you can use ADB commands to make it 4k all the time but its not native, still cool though, but i would rather a Pixel 2 as it has almost every thing else better.
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man stay away from sony! if you are a simple user yah sony is nice and snappy but when it comes to modifying they dont do a good job!
i mean XZ2 has the same camera as xzp and its better... sony upgrades their phones by software not hardware, only rarely they upgrade the hardware on next flagships.
Pixel 2 has a great camera and its really really fast and believe it or not, all the phone reviewers and high tech people either choose iphone or pixel, some times samsung as well and they know what they are doing trust me no one holds sony dude i regret every second buying, thats just my opinion.
again just focus on what features you want in a phone and compare it in youtube. If you want camera, compare cameras in different phones and see which is better, you want speed, check comparisons, you want cool UI check comparisons, do your own research based on your needs and only then YOU can make the decision.
check this out too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi2tjMLVpdQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji6Hz0xprVg
and 4k isnt really worth it unless you want to root the phone.
even after rooting its a pain in the a** to get to enabling native 4k, yes you can use ADB commands to make it 4k all the time but its not native, still cool though, but i would rather a Pixel 2 as it has almost every thing else better.
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Hmmmm, a couple of weeks ago I got the XZ2 and have no regrets, I had the XZ Premium last year when it first came out and it was very good but I sold it on and quite quickly, regretted it. The XZ2 is great but I kind of miss the slabby build factor and unashamed squareness of it all., so much so that I've just ordered another up.
Anyway, I digress .....basically, I had a Pixel 2 XL a few weeks ago but sold it on as the screen is frankly tripe, flat, dull and the device itself is a bit soulless and meh....all that snobbiness and rubbish about "pure Android experience"......great camera though and very slick/fast....just very dull