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I have been back and forth to Verizon a couple of times this week looking at the thunderbolt ...Right now I have a nexus s with T-Mobile,witch I do love,but am really not game to stick around with disaster that at&t is going to create...so my question, who has gotten one coming from a nexus s or galaxy's and how do u like it? This is one hard decision for me to make,any real honest opinions would be great
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I switched from a Nexus S. The TB is an awesome phone and the data speeds are amazing. Really the single downside that I've found is that the black levels of the screen don't compare at all to the Nexus S, but then again nothing else really compares to the contrast of Super Amoled. The TB screen however does appear clearer and sharper to me than the NS screen. I have no regrets about switching, and my plan is only $5/month more on Verizon than I was paying to Tmo.
I switch from a mytouch 4g and haven't looked back.
Verizon is more expensive then tmobile in every way and luckily my company has a 19% off voice plans so my transition was easier.
Lte is definitely worth it if you can get grandfathered into the unlimited plan.
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One other thing, if you aren't in a 4g area then I don't think I would switch.
I switched from Tmobile as well. I think it is a great idea. I have had both Galaxy S phones and HTC phones on Tmoible ( I had every top end phone that came out between the N1 and the MT4G).
I think that now is a great time to jump ship and get Grandfathered into Verizons Unlimited 4G data plans before they go to tiered. The speeds are Amazing. I mean like 3-5 times the speeds of the fastest speed test I ever pulled with Tmobile. I could get 5-6mbps on Tmo in strong HSPA+ area. I get a minimum of 10mpbs down on Verizon, and have seen speeds nearing 30mbps down and 35+ up. That is twice my comcast cable modem speed.
I think the 200$ etf was worth every penny! The phone is nice and compares to every top end phone out there. It is on the best network in the USA according to consumer reports.
GET IT. I have no regrets leaving TMO. It is awesome I get coverage everywhere now, real 4G and Strong 3G where 4G isn't!
I have the Nexus S and got this device as well. LTE is simply stunning. that being said, I returned the Thunderbolt because in the end, the Nexus S was the better phone for me. You'll be happy with either phone for sure but there are pros and cons on each side and really comes to the individual user. If you are thinking about it, try it out as you have 14 days before you have to commit. Verizon is the best carrier hands down but I've never had any issues with T-Mobile either. So to me the decision wasn't about the carrier but about the devices themselves
I have until next Friday to decide, its when I get payed and will have to sell my ns shortly there after,and yea my Verizon bill would only run about $15 more then with T-Mobile ..
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Yea I love my ns! But....its future is in the hands of at&t and we all know what that means.....
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Yea I love my ns! But....its future is in the hands of at&t and we all know what that means.....
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That's not known yet, it still has to pass some regulatory hurdles and complaints filed by Sprint. Although I hear yeah, the thought of AT&T makes me cringe too.
I just opened a brand new account on vzw and got Thunderbolt. Wasn't ready to give away my iOS experience and AT&T 3G that's actually pretty decent and nicely fills the speed gap between LTE and EVDO. My Verizon plan is heavily discounted through corp employee channel so I really can't complain.
The LTE network alone is worth switching to Verizon.
I'm like gr8Gorilla. I've owned just about every one of TMOs better phones, and yes there was a few I enjoyed very much. After hearing the news last Sunday about AT&T taking over, or wanting to take over TMO I knew it was time for me to take off. I refuse to put a dime into AT&T pockets!
Anyway, my thoughts on Verizon... Hands down It was the best move I've made all year thus far. IT's BIG, it's an HTC, it has good weight to it, and best of all it's F'ING FAST!
Yeah, I'll be paying a little more, but in the end it's gonna be well worth it! Stop thinking about it, and JUST DO IT!
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TO Sprint! While I liked my G2X and LOVED all teh support it was getting from all of the developers, the service in my area was just unbearable. Since I moved here 4 years ago I was not able to even stream a song or pandora on the crap EDGE network.
I got the Samsung Galaxy SII Epic 4G Touch and I am loving it so far. I got a hell of a deal and couldnt pass it up. I know Verizon is a better network to be on but it was $30 more and it wasnt truly unlimited like Sprint is.
I got my G2X through Best Buy Mobile and signed up for the buy back program.. well today I went to go see how much that buy back is worth and they gave me $450 for my G2X! It was too good to pass up. So with that $450 I paid the $200 for the new sprint phone, and another $200 for terminating T-mobile contract and walked out of the store with a $50 best buy gift card. It blew my mind, I got paid to switch to a better network and better phone.
Just wanted to shout out to all the devs and support and thanks for all the frustrating times with the old beast.
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TO Sprint! While I liked my G2X and LOVED all teh support it was getting from all of the developers, the service in my area was just unbearable. Since I moved here 4 years ago I was not able to even stream a song or pandora on the crap EDGE network.
I got the Samsung Galaxy SII Epic 4G Touch and I am loving it so far. I got a hell of a deal and couldnt pass it up. I know Verizon is a better network to be on but it was $30 more and it wasnt truly unlimited like Sprint is.
I got my G2X through Best Buy Mobile and signed up for the buy back program.. well today I went to go see how much that buy back is worth and they gave me $450 for my G2X! It was too good to pass up. So with that $450 I paid the $200 for the new sprint phone, and another $200 for terminating T-mobile contract and walked out of the store with a $50 best buy gift card. It blew my mind, I got paid to switch to a better network and better phone.
Just wanted to shout out to all the devs and support and thanks for all the frustrating times with the old beast.
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Wow... I couldn't pass that up either, that's craziness. What dl speeds are you getting on sprint? Doing some window shopping now in case the merger goes through.
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It's funny how this works. I dumped Sprint for the same reasons. Their network in my part of NYC was yuck.
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I dumped sprint too for T-Mobile about 2 weeks ago. Their data speeds were crazy slow in phoenix.
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Yeah I dumped Sprint earlier this year. Couldn't stand the thought of paying $10 extra a month for "smart phone fee" that used to be called "4G" data fee. Of course my city doesn't have Sprint 4G so you could understand how I felt about that bogus fee. My Sprint 3G download speed at home was 100-300kb per sec. I am getting 7-8meg per sec download with Tmobile. I also got 1 bar with Sprint at home and I get full bars at home with Tmobile.
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I dumped sprint too for T-Mobile about 2 weeks ago. Their data speeds were crazy slow in phoenix.
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Ya my buddy on sprint with his nexus s sitting right next to me gets 1.2mb down and I get 8mb down during peak hours he wasn't too happy with his choice either. Best wishes to the OP, how is epic touch, SGSII?
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Thanks folks, I only get 1.2Mbps here inside on 3G. I read everywhere that sprints 3G is slow but it sure beats the heck out of 128Kbps to where I cant even use Pandora while going for a jog. I can still watch youtube and stream netflix and all ther other stuff just fine. T-mobile has no support in my area whatsoever, Best Buy Mobile carried their phones here for like 8 months and just dropped them all last week and picked up Cricket of all things... I did like HSPA+ here in the Twin Cities (Minneapolis / St. Paul) I pulled like 5 down but I was with my friend that just got the LG Revolution and he pulled 12 down which was pretty nuts.
The SGSII is pretty sweet, Its living up to the hype I gues. Its really speedy and the screen is nice. I used to have a Vibrant before the G2X and everybody knows how crappy the GPS was on that among other things which is why I was leary on getting another Samsung. I have run GPS test side by side and the G2X never gets anything below a full green par and 6.1 foot accuracy, and this SGSII took alot longer to get to the 6.1 foot accuracy and didnt lock onto half of the satellites the G2X did and the signal strength was less than half. Aside from GPS I think the SGSII wins in every catagory, it takes amazing phones, I just wish with this huge 4.53" screen that the resolution was better but its hardly noticeable.
I was going to hold out for T-mobiles variant of the SGSII but it doesnt have the Exynos and I was never going to see the 42Mbps ever around here anyways so I had enough of not using internet without wifi. I also kind of wanted to see what teh Nexus Prime was going to be like but it seems like every phone that ever comes out has some sort of huge problem with it especially the G2X and first gen galaxy S phones. And who knows if the Prime is going to have some sort of defect. There are no major hardware problems reported of the SGSII so far and thats all that mattered to me. It has everything I need. I would assume there is going to be ALOT of support for this new device since all the first gen EVO people are probably getting an upgrade soon and want it and there have boon tons of people coming from the Evo 3D because well.. that device blows.
Well it seems that all of samsungs new phones are based off of the galaxy s design in some way or another so you would have to think that with each iteration it gets better. I'm sure the prime will be a beast of a phone. I felt the nexus s was outdated before it even launched
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damn i should start buying from BestBuy too...That's a helluva deal!
I was a Sprint customer for 6 years...and was using the Evo before i decided to go to Tmo. Sprint started charging extra fees out of nowhere...it got pretty crazy.
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damn i should start buying from BestBuy too...That's a helluva deal!
I was a Sprint customer for 6 years...and was using the Evo before i decided to go to Tmo. Sprint started charging extra fees out of nowhere...it got pretty crazy.
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Yeah their insurance is WAAAAAY better too. I highly suggest it. Its like $2 more than sprints but i can smash the phone weekly without question and they will replace it with no deductible no questions asked.. now that I think about it HAHAHAHAHA I gave them my G2X with MIUI running on it, they never even bothered to check it while i was in the store. They probably messed around withit thinking it was some phone from the future. I miss MIUI Touchwiz sucks.
My main reason for dumping Sprint was because in summer of 2010, I got 2mbps on evdo, in August 2011 I was slower than edge. The 10 dollar fee didnt bother me too bad, but then they took away my yearly phone subsidy. This broke the straw.
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TO Sprint! While I liked my G2X and LOVED all teh support it was getting from all of the developers, the service in my area was just unbearable. Since I moved here 4 years ago I was not able to even stream a song or pandora on the crap EDGE network.
I got the Samsung Galaxy SII Epic 4G Touch and I am loving it so far. I got a hell of a deal and couldnt pass it up. I know Verizon is a better network to be on but it was $30 more and it wasnt truly unlimited like Sprint is.
I got my G2X through Best Buy Mobile and signed up for the buy back program.. well today I went to go see how much that buy back is worth and they gave me $450 for my G2X! It was too good to pass up. So with that $450 I paid the $200 for the new sprint phone, and another $200 for terminating T-mobile contract and walked out of the store with a $50 best buy gift card. It blew my mind, I got paid to switch to a better network and better phone.
Just wanted to shout out to all the devs and support and thanks for all the frustrating times with the old beast.
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Not to be an a$$, but did you research sprint lately? They've made tons of changes to their policies and terms. Not to mention, their network took a big hit with alltell (I think it was theirs) towers being sold off. Their 4g partner clearwire is courting other carriers, and their new 4g partner is having trouble clearing the FCC.
There's been a lot of people leaving lately! I'm sure this can be found with most carriers, but sprint doesn't have anything concrete for the future!
GL! Hope all goes well for you!
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Not to be an a$$, but did you research sprint lately? They've made tons of changes to their policies and terms. Not to mention, their network took a big hit with alltell (I think it was theirs) towers being sold off. Their 4g partner clearwire is courting other carriers, and their new 4g partner is having trouble clearing the FCC.
There's been a lot of people leaving lately! I'm sure this can be found with most carriers, but sprint doesn't have anything concrete for the future!
GL! Hope all goes well for you!
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That's why I left Sprint...freaking charges out of nowhere...they said it was statutory fees...x3!
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I made the switch from AT&T to T-Mobile because of service and monthly cost. Good for you if Sprint offers better service in your area.. after all you want your moneys worth. I doubt sprint has the better network between the two though.
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i left sprint for tmobile because of all the changes and because slow 3g
Samsung were amazing with the Galaxy S line, no complaints there. The Infuse came along and it was pretty much the Galaxy's weirdly put together and slightly upgraded step brother. And as we all know, a hold over for the S2. Then the S2 comes out and everyone's excited. Hell yeah, party! Greatest phone ever made, yeah cool, whatever.
And we all love our phones. And then the Skyrocket. The freakin Skyrocket... This phone comes out a month after the S2. I mean, I love Samsung, but this phone release trend is outrageous. Yes people like HTC release a ton per year, but over many carriers. Samsung has three phones for the same carrier in six months. This just irks me. Please discuss.
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and get used to it buddy. specially on AT&T. LTE is just starting up on AT&T. Meaning there is a wave of phones not far from shore. Samsung, HTC, Motorola it hasnt even started.
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and get used to it buddy. specially on AT&T. LTE is just starting up on AT&T. Meaning there is a wave of phones not far from shore. Samsung, HTC, Motorola it hasnt even started.
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Android eco-system enables this. This is how they are outpacing apple.
S2 came out several months ago didn't it? I believe it was the US carriers creating the giant delay while everyone else in the world enjoyed it for a few months.
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and get used to it buddy. specially on AT&T. LTE is just starting up on AT&T. Meaning there is a wave of phones not far from shore. Samsung, HTC, Motorola it hasnt even started.
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Yep - I think you're right. I heard at LEAST 2 more Samsungs by the EOY for Android/ATT alone. Plus a few more for TMobile, Sprint and Ver.
Guys its not like iPhones where the new phone takes an absolute dump on your phone. Samsung puts their best foot forward on most of their phones. Keyword MOST. the new phones are just incorperating the new technology such as LTE for att. Just enjoy the phone you have knowing that its not out of date yet since the new iphone only has 1/2 a gig of ram
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I meant to say the new iphone takes a dunp on your old iphone. I accidently left it open. I didn't mean your samsung phone. If we look at the galaxy s vs the 4 the sgs had a power vr sgx 540 where as the 4 only had a 535. Not trying to turn this into a iphone vs android. Just using the new iphone old iphone model.
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The moment you walk out with your phone its already obsolete because there is a new one coming. I actually perfer this "abundance" of phone. it gives us options.
I just don't like the fact that reps have no idea of up coming phones but the net does. I specifically asked about gs2 when I bought my infuse and att claimed to have no idea, 1.5 months later and its released.
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I dont think the stores actually have an idea of what they are getting, keep in mind there are different departments which handle different stuff.
im guessing the retail part, just sells the device...
or they are complete asses and just dont say anything....
They just don't say anything. I have a friend who works for verizon and they learn about what the phone is as far as features before the phones come out
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sorry to say this, but this thread is stupid.
that is like getting mad at mercedes, "i just bought this E class for 50,000$, now they come out with the new CLS!". haha
when you made your Android purchase, you have to accept that one fact that the turnover of devices are very very high... If you don't like this then you'd be better off with the iPhone.
Otherwise, think about how your phone, even though it might be like 4-5 devices behind the newest device, is still so much better than the newest iPhone in the market.
People really don't understand the point of this thread.... I just look at other companies that don't release 4 phones for one carrier in a 6 month span. I love Samsung just not this crap.
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sorry to say this, but this thread is stupid.
that is like getting mad at mercedes, "i just bought this E class for 50,000$, now they come out with the new CLS!". haha
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No, this is quite a bit different.
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While I do agree with you to an extent, I think you miss an important factor that is causing this.
The Galaxy S line was 3G HSPA. Then AT&T launched their HSPA+ network, and the Infuse is "4G" with HSPA+ and halfway between the SGS and the SGS 2 lines. So the Infuse was thrown out there so Samsung had a high end HSPA+ phone. Then the SGS 2 came out as the full upgrade from the SGS line. It also had HSPA+ as that's still the dominant "4G" network for AT&T right now. Shortly after they release the SGS2 LTE with 4G LTE so they again have a high end phone on the best network AT&T has to offer.
So while it seems like they have released 4 phones in a year and a half, 3 of them upgraded their network support. They probably could have waited on the SGS 2 and just released an SGS2 LTE, but I suspect the SGS2 will drop in price faster than the LTE version will as the LTE network grows, giving them maybe a $100 and a $200 model, or even $150/200.
I don't think you'll see them release as many now that we don't have any network upgrades for another couple of years when they upgrade to LTE Advanced (and I suspect that will roll into LTE phones sooner rather than later).
But yeah, I know what you mean. I would have been pretty annoyed if I had bought an SGS2 and then the SGS2 LTE came out, but the LTE came out soon enough after the SGS2 that you could have returned the SGS2 for the SGS2 LTE if you wanted. They were JUST over 30 days apart, but the Skyrocket was announced before 30 days was up, so you could have returned immediately and used a temporary phone for a couple of days.
This thread isn't stupid...it makes a point
Their frequency of phone releases addresses AT&T's network upgrade needs, not Samsung.
AT&T contracts the OEM's to make devices for them. AT&T is paying boatloads for each device run. Thus they have an incentive to move 'old' devices out as soon as possible to make room for the latest tier. It's about recouping cost with device/accessory sales and new contracts.
Keep in mind, that unless you have confirmed LTE service in your area, paying full price for an LTE phone wouldn't make much sense. On contract? Sure and just wait for your LTE coverage to arrive.
AT&T got caught due to VZW's strong LTE push and the 'postponed' T-Mo M&A. So they have to make an LTE push in profitable markets and have a device that can answer VZW's offerings.
The bottom line in my opinion is for you the consumer to do your own homework and not rely on the salespeople to 'educate' you. They won't. They aren't trained to.
You have this forum, Google and more web rags on mobile tech than you could possibly read. A wealth of info for free where you can research and plan your purchase.
My Infuse and wife's Cappy are expected to remain in service for another 3 yrs. At that point I'll sell them to help offset the costs of their upgrades. If there's a need to upgrade soon than that, it'll be because the new device will fulfill a need these devices couldn't possibly fill.
Both of these phones are powerful and feature rich so I feel confident in their longevity.
Although, that flexible AMOLED screen tech is sexy!!! I'd love to see device designs!
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People really don't understand the point of this thread.... I just look at other companies that don't release 4 phones for one carrier in a 6 month span. I love Samsung just not this crap.
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then you should just be a sheep and get iphone!
choices is good! 4.5 too big? get 4.3 gs2!
4. 3 too small? get 4.5 gs2! now everyone is happy!
that is like complaining fast food restaurants sell hamburger and chicken sandwich instead of just selling one kind!
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AT&T got caught due to VZW's strong LTE push and the 'postponed' T-Mo M&A. So they have to make an LTE push in profitable markets and have a device that can answer VZW's offerings.
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now att have another problem, Verizon give you 4gb of LTE for 30$
if att don't follow suit, I might get galaxy nexus with 4gb of LTE for 30$
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then you should just be a sheep and get iphone!
choices is good! 4.5 too big? get 4.3 gs2!
4. 3 too small? get 4.5 gs2! now everyone is happy!
that is like complaining fast food restaurants sell hamburger and chicken sandwich instead of just selling one kind!
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now att have another problem, Verizon give you 4gb of LTE for 30$
if att don't follow suit, I might get galaxy nexus with 4gb of LTE for 30$
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The reason you piss people off so much is due mainly in part to how of an ass you are. Personally I don't care for iphones. Another thing is why is everyone who has sn iphone is a sheep? Some people genuinally prefer them. I think you talk way too much without thinking, and you really need to stay out of people's topics if your main objective is to cut them down, try to make every point they make seem invalid, and in a general sense just get on people's nerves.
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While I do agree with you to an extent, I think you miss an important factor that is causing this.
The Galaxy S line was 3G HSPA. Then AT&T launched their HSPA+ network, and the Infuse is "4G" with HSPA+ and halfway between the SGS and the SGS 2 lines. So the Infuse was thrown out there so Samsung had a high end HSPA+ phone. Then the SGS 2 came out as the full upgrade from the SGS line. It also had HSPA+ as that's still the dominant "4G" network for AT&T right now. Shortly after they release the SGS2 LTE with 4G LTE so they again have a high end phone on the best network AT&T has to offer.
So while it seems like they have released 4 phones in a year and a half, 3 of them upgraded their network support. They probably could have waited on the SGS 2 and just released an SGS2 LTE, but I suspect the SGS2 will drop in price faster than the LTE version will as the LTE network grows, giving them maybe a $100 and a $200 model, or even $150/200.
I don't think you'll see them release as many now that we don't have any network upgrades for another couple of years when they upgrade to LTE Advanced (and I suspect that will roll into LTE phones sooner rather than later).
But yeah, I know what you mean. I would have been pretty annoyed if I had bought an SGS2 and then the SGS2 LTE came out, but the LTE came out soon enough after the SGS2 that you could have returned the SGS2 for the SGS2 LTE if you wanted. They were JUST over 30 days apart, but the Skyrocket was announced before 30 days was up, so you could have returned immediately and used a temporary phone for a couple of days.
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Thank you. This is exactly what I was saying. And yes, I agree that the main issue is more than likely carrier related especially since Att is the only carrier that released a Skyrocket. This is what I'm looking for, discussion. Not for someone to sit here, call me stupid, and bash my topic and opinion in every way possible.
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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sns-ap-us-tec-att-t-mobile,0,1859192.story?track=rss
Its officially not happening! No AT&T/T-Mobile merger in the near future
Thank God, this is a win for us consumers.
Might want to fix the title, it was actually 39 Billion, not Million
This is sad. This merger would have been so much better for everybody. There's always hope for the future, though. Maybe AT&T will have a better chance with a better president.
Great news...been celebrating since the announcement! And it's a big win for all the users who fought big corporate brother!!
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This is sad. This merger would have been so much better for everybody. There's always hope for the future, though. Maybe AT&T will have a better chance with a better president.
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I sharted while laughing at your satire.
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I sharted while laughing at your satire.
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Shhh!...don't give me away. I like messing with the fanboys and uptight ones. I find it humorous imagining the veins in the foreheads popping out.
I'm happy.
OMG!!!...soo sad...
That was a long waste of a process. Verizon and AT&T control 75% of the market. Sprint and T-Mobile USA are too small to survive on their own. They cannot keep pace with the capital investments of the much larger Verizon and AT&T. Sprint is struggling to build a 4G LTE network, and T-Mobile does not even have any immediate plans for one. I am hoping that some big outside investors (Dish Network, Google, etc.) come in and buy out the small carriers and make the necessary cash infusions. As a consumer, I want affordable, nation-wide mobile broadband with high (or unlimited) data caps.
T mobile is fine. Sprint however is in trouble.
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Everyone keeps saying T-Mobile needs the iPhone and LTE. I'd love to have those things on T-Mobile but not at the expense of low rates. I think most T-Mobile customers will agree with me.
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Everyone keeps saying T-Mobile needs the iPhone and LTE. I'd love to have those things on T-Mobile but not at the expense of low rates. I think most T-Mobile customers will agree with me.
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Customers disagree because T-Mobile continues to bleed subscribers without the iPhone. It is why Sprint is paying so heavily to finally get the iPhone this quarter.
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Everyone keeps saying T-Mobile needs the iPhone and LTE. I'd love to have those things on T-Mobile but not at the expense of low rates. I think most T-Mobile customers will agree with me.
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Absolutely...the iPhone is not needed for T-Mobile to get customers. the HTC Amaze and Samsung Galaxy S2 are more than sufficient and considerably better phones than the iPhone 4S...maybe 2 years ago, T-mobile needed the iPhone, but not today. I highly doubt the iphone will save sprint or bolster their marketshare.
t-mo usa isnt fine, their owner want out of us market, so someone has to buy them now at an good price or at an fire sale later.
Iphone and lte. The iphone is not a network saving device. A lot of people would still buy the iphone out right and stay on t-mobile network. Most people jump to conclusions assume the deal would go through and left t-mobile.
Lets assume T-mobile starts pushing out windows 8 phones next year and they are as intuitive and intergrated with the desktops.
That will bring in more consumers since its a device that works with already most of your home products.
Lte as of right now t-mobile does not need Lte. The technology has not caught enough to have Lte reliable. Most Lte phones don't last more than 5-8 hrs. You shouldn't have to disconnect from 4g service to get decent battery life. Lte has often seen outages as well.
Hspa+ as for now shows that Lte is not needed. Majority of users have wifi at home. Also ping on Lte networks are either low or extremely high. Compared to t-mobile network. Higher ping the longer it takes for the web page to load.
T-mobile needs a better market strategy. Most of their good devices never have a commercial or any type of advertisement. The best bet would be to sell t-mobile to a company with a lot of spectrum like dish.
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Customers disagree because T-Mobile continues to bleed subscribers without the iPhone. It is why Sprint is paying so heavily to finally get the iPhone this quarter.
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And Sprint shareholders agree that the iPhone is bad for business. I'm one of them. It's been painful.
If AT&T bought out T-mobile wouldn't that cause some kind of monopoly? At&T would control all of the market. Not to mention the prices of t-mobile would probably raise. Keep in mind AT&T was saying they'd try and keep T-mobiles price rates which i don't see happening.
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If AT&T bought out T-mobile wouldn't that cause some kind of monopoly? At&T would control all of the market. Not to mention the prices of t-mobile would probably raise. Keep in mind AT&T was saying they'd try and keep T-mobiles price rates which i don't see happening.
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If the merger did happened, AT&T and Verizon would account for 80% of the wireless in the US.
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T-mobile needs a better market strategy. Most of their good devices never have a commercial or any type of advertisement. The best bet would be to sell t-mobile to a company with a lot of spectrum like dish.
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True. Most people dont know. What a htc MT4G slide and htc amaze is.
Sad both phones are very competitve and great peices of technology
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I have to say, after 8 years with VZW, I'm finally throwing in the towel and moving onto another network who actually respects their customers. With the lack of updates and feature support to their tiered data plans, it just doesn't seem logical from a consumers perspective to stay with a company that's hell bent on invading your privacy while offering little to nothing in return. If you're in the same boat, what network are you planning on joining and why?
I really wanted to go to t-mobile so I can cut my bill in half with them but they don't have lte where I live yet and their 4g does not penetrate my work area. I just preordered my gs4 with verizon and its the last phone I will have with them unless they give us our early upgrades back and also let us upgrade from our unlimited data lines. For now I am very satisfied with their service but my days with them are definetly numbered
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I've only had Verizon now for about 9 months, and I've been regretting getting it since about 3 months in when I realized that you can pretty much only use these phones on Verizon (I've seen threads where they use them on other carriers, but it looks really complicated). Not to mention I pay roughly $55/ month just for data alone, which is just 1 GB. I dont even want to get started on how stupid that tiered data is--I know it makes them money, but I also know it doesnt cost them nearly as much as what they charge for it. I will most likely cancel my contract as soon as I get some cash to get out of it. As far as 4G is concerned, its nice to have and all, but it seems to just blow through my whole 1 GB of data in no time flat. Not to mention I use maybe 50 minutes of talking/ month, and about the same text messages. I only got Verizon so I could have a fancy phone, and I got that, and now I'm seriously paying for it. If I could get this bastard to work on Straight Talk I would be set, but I'm pretty sure the easiest way is to buy a TMo or ATT variant (you know, unless someone has a tip they would like to share )
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**** Verizon, and I'm totally jumping ship ASAP
Would like to change, but stuck with Verizon in Upstate NY. AT&T is EDGE speeds at best outside the cities. Most houses act like Faraday cages and since I am on call I need voice and data to work almost all the time. AT&T would constantly drop calls. Sprint isn't bad for voice, but high speed data is lacking in most of the boonies. T-mobile is like AT&T (but worse).
So yeah, I'm rocking a $230/mo family plan for 4 smartphones, a dumbphone, and a measly 4GB of data a month (that is with a 21% corp discount).
Woohoo!!!
There are lots of reasons to hate VZW, but there is one reason to love them: Network coverage. A few months ago I was in ruralish Virginia, and I had 4gLTE. Those towers don't pay for themselves...
Shibby87 said:
I have to say, after 8 years with VZW, I'm finally throwing in the towel and moving onto another network who actually respects their customers. With the lack of updates and feature support to their tiered data plans, it just doesn't seem logical from a consumers perspective to stay with a company that's hell bent on invading your privacy while offering little to nothing in return. If you're in the same boat, what network are you planning on joining and why?
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Ummmm , I've never had a problem with Verizon and I can say that they most definitely do respect their customers . I have mostly positive things to say regarding my total experience with Verizon.
Well I was able to email the President of the Southwest Region of SoCal, got the network extender (cause my base has no coverage for any cell phone service) for free. And everywhere I go I at least got coverage. I've wanted to jump ship for quite sometime
Verizon = bad, others = WORSE!
I rate 'em like this, on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the best:
VZW = -2
T-Mo = -1.5 (slightly better CS but poor coverage)
AT&T = -6,593,865,432
Sprint = Will they be in business tomorrow?
NOTE, all carriers suck, nobody even rates a zero and I'm in a really good mood so I rated AT&T's "We don't care" CS and "Oops, we dropped your call" network much higher than they really deserve.
I'm sticking with VZW.
I have mostly positive experiences with Verizon and with Sprint but I had bad experiences with T-Mobile and AT&T. With t-mobile it was mainly bad cell coverage while AT&T it was customer service.
I pay 55$ a month. 2gb internet, unlimited calls to cellphones , 500 landline minutes (unlimited on weekends and weekday nights I think) unlimited texting, 4g is good here in Houston. I've been thinking when my contract is up, T-Mobile. Maybe back to cricket even. I just don't know anymore.
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I have really been contemplating switching to T-Mobile. I'm in NYC and LTE in Manhattan during the middle of the day is no better than att/tmobile hspa. I rarely get over 10mbps with my galaxy s3. But the overall coverage is great and I really don't want to give that up. I hope that with metro pcs T-Mobile can expand their service.
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Sadly jumping ship isn't an option for me since verizon has the best signal and data where i live. I'm just holding out for the next nexus on verizon.
Neverendingxsin said:
Sadly jumping ship isn't an option for me since verizon has the best signal and data where i live.
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Same here. I've been with Verizon for probably ten years and although their custom firmware settings on phones and fairly high prices grinds on me a bit where I live they're still the best game in town. Just renewed with them for two more years when I got this pair of i535s from Best Buy.
I hope every one here knows that if you have unlimited data with Verizon and you UPGRADE YOU CAN STILL KEEP YOUR UNLIMITED PLANS. THERE IS ALOT OF MISS INFORMATION ON THIS:banghead::banghead:. I UPGRADED AND KEPT MINE.ALSO MY BOSS DID MY INLAWS AND THATS RIGHT MY BARBER.IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS JUST ASK ME.DONT BELIEVE THE INFO SAYING U HAVE TO GO TO TIER OR SHARE PLANS:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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I hope every one here knows that if you have unlimited data with Verizon and you UPGRADE YOU CAN STILL KEEP YOUR UNLIMITED PLANS. THERE IS ALOT OF MISS INFORMATION ON THIS:banghead::banghead:. I UPGRADED AND KEPT MINE.ALSO MY BOSS DID MY INLAWS AND THATS RIGHT MY BARBER.IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS JUST ASK ME.DONT BELIEVE THE INFO SAYING U HAVE TO GO TO TIER OR SHARE PLANS:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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I've heard the only way to do that is to buy a phone at full retail price. Is there another way?
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I've heard the only way to do that is to buy a phone at full retail price. Is there another way?
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Yes ......call them and tell them after you upgrade you want your unlimited back .They will give it to you. But call before you upgrade so it will be in your file. This only can be done on the phone not in any store. When you upgrade just take the 2gb plan. Then when you get the phone call them back and tell them to put the unlimited back on. They do this for loyal customers. Don't let them tell you they don't cause they do. The person you speak to might not know so ask for another rep.Don't upgrade until it is in you file saying they will give it back to you after wards. This works I know for a fact. This is just not advertised. I only learned because a rep was nice enuff to tell me.....So spread the word...Its called The Loyal Customer worry free exchange program......THIS DOES WORK .I UPGRADED MINE AND MY WIFES.PLUS MY BOSS AND BARBER( I get free hair cuts now lol):thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Thanks so much for the advice! I still have a little less than a year left, but ill have to remember this when I go to upgrade!
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You will miss Verizon sorely once you do any traveling. No other network comes close to the coverage they have.
I can't jump ship from Verizon either because the carrier I want to go to (T-Mobile) has the same crappy service from when I was with them 2 years ago. If LTE was to come to my area on T-Mobile I would definitely test it and if its worth it i'll jump ship from Verizon. But Verizon has to be the best service I get in my area & i'm still grandfathered in on my Unlimited Data, been getting phones through Swappa & Craigslist for the time being.
To me, it's similar to Comcast - they have high prices, but the best service too. I always have a great signal, blazing fast internet... hard to complain about the price to me. I'm coming from Sprint, who's price was barely cheaper, and the service was terrible.
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