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Am concidering making the jump to Verizon

I have been back and forth to Verizon a couple of times this week looking at the thunderbolt ...Right now I have a nexus s with T-Mobile,witch I do love,but am really not game to stick around with disaster that at&t is going to create...so my question, who has gotten one coming from a nexus s or galaxy's and how do u like it? This is one hard decision for me to make,any real honest opinions would be great
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I switched from a Nexus S. The TB is an awesome phone and the data speeds are amazing. Really the single downside that I've found is that the black levels of the screen don't compare at all to the Nexus S, but then again nothing else really compares to the contrast of Super Amoled. The TB screen however does appear clearer and sharper to me than the NS screen. I have no regrets about switching, and my plan is only $5/month more on Verizon than I was paying to Tmo.

I switch from a mytouch 4g and haven't looked back.
Verizon is more expensive then tmobile in every way and luckily my company has a 19% off voice plans so my transition was easier.
Lte is definitely worth it if you can get grandfathered into the unlimited plan.
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One other thing, if you aren't in a 4g area then I don't think I would switch.

I switched from Tmobile as well. I think it is a great idea. I have had both Galaxy S phones and HTC phones on Tmoible ( I had every top end phone that came out between the N1 and the MT4G).
I think that now is a great time to jump ship and get Grandfathered into Verizons Unlimited 4G data plans before they go to tiered. The speeds are Amazing. I mean like 3-5 times the speeds of the fastest speed test I ever pulled with Tmobile. I could get 5-6mbps on Tmo in strong HSPA+ area. I get a minimum of 10mpbs down on Verizon, and have seen speeds nearing 30mbps down and 35+ up. That is twice my comcast cable modem speed.
I think the 200$ etf was worth every penny! The phone is nice and compares to every top end phone out there. It is on the best network in the USA according to consumer reports.
GET IT. I have no regrets leaving TMO. It is awesome I get coverage everywhere now, real 4G and Strong 3G where 4G isn't!

I have the Nexus S and got this device as well. LTE is simply stunning. that being said, I returned the Thunderbolt because in the end, the Nexus S was the better phone for me. You'll be happy with either phone for sure but there are pros and cons on each side and really comes to the individual user. If you are thinking about it, try it out as you have 14 days before you have to commit. Verizon is the best carrier hands down but I've never had any issues with T-Mobile either. So to me the decision wasn't about the carrier but about the devices themselves

I have until next Friday to decide, its when I get payed and will have to sell my ns shortly there after,and yea my Verizon bill would only run about $15 more then with T-Mobile ..
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Yea I love my ns! But....its future is in the hands of at&t and we all know what that means.....
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Come on in the waters fine......

Raver27 said:
Yea I love my ns! But....its future is in the hands of at&t and we all know what that means.....
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That's not known yet, it still has to pass some regulatory hurdles and complaints filed by Sprint. Although I hear yeah, the thought of AT&T makes me cringe too.

I just opened a brand new account on vzw and got Thunderbolt. Wasn't ready to give away my iOS experience and AT&T 3G that's actually pretty decent and nicely fills the speed gap between LTE and EVDO. My Verizon plan is heavily discounted through corp employee channel so I really can't complain.
The LTE network alone is worth switching to Verizon.

I'm like gr8Gorilla. I've owned just about every one of TMOs better phones, and yes there was a few I enjoyed very much. After hearing the news last Sunday about AT&T taking over, or wanting to take over TMO I knew it was time for me to take off. I refuse to put a dime into AT&T pockets!
Anyway, my thoughts on Verizon... Hands down It was the best move I've made all year thus far. IT's BIG, it's an HTC, it has good weight to it, and best of all it's F'ING FAST!
Yeah, I'll be paying a little more, but in the end it's gonna be well worth it! Stop thinking about it, and JUST DO IT!

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Samsung infuse dead???

Just wondering if the infuse is dead or if Samsung and att are Judy being very very slow about releasing it.
Could it be delayed due to att's lack of true 4g and Samsung wont release it to them under att's false 4g. If i were Samsung I wouldn't let att ruin what had potential to be a great phone. But I would atleast let my customer base know a little about what is going on with it.
This as well as the sgs2 not being released until 3rd quarter or later in the states is starting to make me lose faith in both companies, along with att lying about their 4g and purposfully throttling down speeds on the inspire and atrix.
It might be getting time to try another carrier and just forget about Samsung.
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if that were the case, t-mobile wouldnt have been aple to release the galaxy s 4g. and technically there is no true 4G avalible anywhere in america. By that standard LTE doesnt count as 4G 'till you hit the LTE-Advanced mark which wont be for a few years. unfortunatley the big companies are going to decide what '4g is' (even so much that the ITU was going to change the standard) once we hit LTE-Advanced well be crusing at speeds around 800mbps-1gbps

When those days come we won't need laotops any longer. Can't wait.
I was waiting for the infuse out the sgs2 but am impatient. Im like a kid at Christmas with this stuff. Now I have an inspire and have a nexus s with att 3g on its way. Should keep me happy for awhile I hope. If not my wife might kill me.
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Meh, I was pretty excited for the screen size and specs, however it's only single core and the Galaxy S 2 should be coming out next month. If ATT sold it for under 200 it would be a great phone to buy and I think a lot of people who don't want an iPhone would pick it up.

[Q] How to switch from Charge to GS2 next month

So I know there is a pool of people like me that recently purchased a Charge in order to get locked into an unlimited data plan. I assume there is also a smaller set of people, like me, who did this despite the fact they would have rather waited and purchased the Samsung Galaxy S2, but were forced into this decision because of the now enacted tiered data plans. With that being said and the recent news of the GS2 being released next month, I want to know if there is a way to switch from the Charge to the GS2, preferably without paying full retail for the phone (or adding a line). Any insight from current or former Big V employees or aggressive customers on how to go about this, if at all?

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So I know there is a pool of people like me that recently purchased a Charge in order to get locked into an unlimited data plan. I assume there is also a smaller set of people, like me, who did this despite the fact they would have rather waited and purchased the Samsung Galaxy S2, but were forced into this decision because of the now enacted tiered data plans. With that being said and the recent news of the GS2 being released next month, I want to know if there is a way to switch from the Charge to the GS2, preferably without paying full retail for the phone (or adding a line). Any insight from current or former Big V employees or aggressive customers on how to go about this, if at all?
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theres no guarantee it will be a verizon function (or whatever its called) released next month or that it will have lte *unless i missed a news story about that*
so odds are it ill just be tmo/att gsm versions followed by sprint, then vzw...hopefully the vzw one isnt the only 3g one
but no there is no way at launch you can get one on contract price without opening a new line

braveally said:
I want to know if there is a way to switch from the Charge to the GS2, preferably without paying full retail for the phone (or adding a line).
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Well, this may not be any help to you, but it may help someone.
Best Buy Mobile is the only place that I know that still has a 30 Day exchange policy for Verizon. Unless the GS II comes out the first week of the month you would be out of luck. But you never know someone my be able to hustle one when it releases.

If you got it from costco you can return within ninety days
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I have yet to see any news about the SGS2 on Verizon anytime soon. While it will hopefully be out in the next month or two, there are no guarantees.

My guess is that there will be a flood of used charges on craigslist when the gs2 releases.
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The Galaxy S2 is the device I really have been waiting for but after having 4g speeds there is no way I can go back to a 3g device. As far as I know the S2 will not be LTE.

Ill be keeping my charge. Good enough to hold me off until upgrade comes.
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I'm going to wait on upgrading to the gs2 until some proper reviews come out. And then ill buy one off eBay or something later on.
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timgt said:
The Galaxy S2 is the device I really have been waiting for but after having 4g speeds there is no way I can go back to a 3g device. As far as I know the S2 will not be LTE.
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and you base this lack of lte knowledge on what?

braveally said:
So I know there is a pool of people like me that recently purchased a Charge in order to get locked into an unlimited data plan. I assume there is also a smaller set of people, like me, who did this despite the fact they would have rather waited and purchased the Samsung Galaxy S2, but were forced into this decision because of the now enacted tiered data plans. With that being said and the recent news of the GS2 being released next month, I want to know if there is a way to switch from the Charge to the GS2, preferably without paying full retail for the phone (or adding a line). Any insight from current or former Big V employees or aggressive customers on how to go about this, if at all?
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You do know you didn't have to buy a new phone to be grandfathered into unlimited data,right? As long as you don't downgrade to a feature phone, you could continue having unlimited data for as long as you're a Verizon customer and don't downgrade.

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and you base this lack of lte knowledge on what?
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I'm guessing he's basing that off of how thin it is.
I wonder if that new Verizon Samsung slider that's been wandering the interwebs lately is Verizon's SGS II...

I'm basing it off of not a single mention of LTE in the many many reviews online. We have leaked specs on the entire phone pretty much but not one place mentions LTE.

I haven't reviewed the specs of the gs2. Is it a dual core phone? Have you noticed all 4g lte phones are single core? What I was told by verizon is the lte connection somehow literally fries the current dual core processors thus resulting all the lte phones being single core and also why the droid bionic hasn't been released. To conclude my yapping is if the gs2 is a dual core phone then it's likely to be just for 3G.
Gremlins are watching you...

I bought my charge at costco hoping to either get a bionic or gs2 but I'm very happy with my charge even umrooted... I haven't had the need for a dual core cpu and when I do I want a snap dragon dual core. I
am good
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You do know you didn't have to buy a new phone to be grandfathered into unlimited data,right? As long as you don't downgrade to a feature phone, you could continue having unlimited data for as long as you're a Verizon customer and don't downgrade.
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I am a new customer coming over from Sprint. I was not satisfied with their service but stuck with them because they were more affordable and had unlimited everything. Preferred LTE over Wimax and made the switch a few days before the new tiered data plans. I could have gotten a reliable 3g phone for much cheaper, but I could not resist the LTE.

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I'm guessing he's basing that off of how thin it is.
I wonder if that new Verizon Samsung slider that's been wandering the interwebs lately is Verizon's SGS II...
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timgt said:
I'm basing it off of not a single mention of LTE in the many many reviews online. We have leaked specs on the entire phone pretty much but not one place mentions LTE.
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1. no one has reviewed (or seen) a VERIZON sgs2 yet which would be the only one capable of running lte atm
2. going by leaked roadmaps is pointless as some have said lte others not
3. we will have to wait and see, but that sammy slider WAS lte, and unlikely to be the sgs2...i think it ll be another refreshed sgs 1

Most likely the GS2 will be only 3g. Having tasted 4g on the Charge, I can't imagine going back to those slow speeds. However, I think it'll still be a top seller.
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aznxk3vi17 said:
Most likely the GS2 will be only 3g. Having tasted 4g on the Charge, I can't imagine going back to those slow speeds. However, I think it'll still be a top seller.
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again, these 3g only guesses arent based on anything...lets wait and see
frankly though if it launches before oct the odds of 3g are greater...if its october+ i could see them marketing it as a big release

nitsuj17 said:
again, these 3g only guesses arent based on anything...lets wait and see
frankly though if it launches before oct the odds of 3g are greater...if its october+ i could see them marketing it as a big release
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Thing is, it's most likely to come next month: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...nth-someday-some/&category=classic&postPage=1
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What's on AT&T's Android horizon??

From the looks of it, the best Android phone coming out (that we know of) is the HTC Holiday? 1.2 GHz, qHD...it's supposedly coming out during the (wouldn't you guess) holiday season, AFTER phones on other carriers with 1.5 Ghz and 720p screens have been out for a couple months. Wth? From the looks of it, AT&T might not get the Nexus Prime (or whatever it's called, at least not right away). In fact, it's rumored to be going to Verizon, who is also getting the HTC Vigor, the Motorola Dinara, and a couple of the phones in that recently leaked Samsung lineup are going to Verizon.
Of course, where these phones go is all speculation...but damn, someone tell me my crappy carrier will be getting something good within the next 6 months!!
Perhaps I'm missing something...

The Samsung Galaxy S2 should be out next month. That will be the top Android device for ATT. And there is a slight chance they get the Nexus-Prime this Nov/Dec.
I would get the Galaxy S2. Will be a great device and last a long while if there is a steady XDA user base for ATT's version.
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Zorachus said:
The Samsung Galaxy S2 should be out next month. That will be the top Android device for ATT. And there is a slight chance they get the Nexus-Prime this Nov/Dec.
I would get the Galaxy S2. Will be a great device and last a long while if there is a steady XDA user base for ATT's version.
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I dunno. It'll be a 1.2 ghz releasing about the same time as the other supposedly 1.5 phones, AND the screen resolution isn't even qHD, let alone at all on par with the 720p... You're right though, if the development is good (on XDA, etc.) then that does a lot for the phones lasting value.
But spec wise, it seems the SGS2 has been held off of US shores for FAR too long, and it risks being outdated almost immediately.
Are there really no other good ATT phones in our future? Can we expect some surprises to be unveiled in the coming weeks for phones on par with these beasts Verizon, etc. are getting?

Import an unlocked prime.

Well, AT&T is buying out T-Mobile and I'm sure with it will come a bunch of new phones for AT&T

There's rumors a Nexus Prime will be dropping for every carrier.

Galaxy nexus vs. galaxy S 3

My original galaxy s is getting long in the tooth. I'm due for an upgrade. I was thinking of going with the new S 3 when it comes out, but if its 300$, I think they'd a but much for a phone, and was thinking of getting the nexus.
Do you think that the nexus will still be a decent phone 2 years from now when I can upgrade, our should I get the S3 to keep me until june 2014?
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I'm getting a GNex soon. So it will be even older! Yes, I think the hardware will last
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olyloh6696 said:
I'm getting a GNex soon. So it will be even older! Yes, I think the hardware will last
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i think the nexus is better, am waiting for the the next one, dont like capacitve buttons on ics

eppo12- said:
Do you think that the nexus will still be a decent phone 2 years from now when I can upgrade, our should I get the S3 to keep me until june 2014?
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Is 2 years a hard or soft limit? (i.e. contract or no contract?) I'm planning on keeping my Nexus for two years, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
The good news is that the nexus is cheap (off google play or expansys) hence good for buying unlocked. I would not buy it from Verizon, for instance; the updating status on the CDMA variants is questionable.
(Also, yeah, S3 hardware buttons sux.)

naaa you guys have gone soft get the s3 or wait to see the nexus 4
i have the gnex won it from a giveaway and personally i think its dog**** if you have the chance get the s3 not the nexus crap or as i said wait for the next nexus romurs are that it will have a s4 quadcore ship clocked at 1.5ghz sounds sexy also its based on a15

I have verizon, and unless the rules have changed, you can upgrade after 18 months, and get $50 off at a 24 months. Why pay so much for a phone, when your not sure for an upgrade? So I would have to wait 18 months minimum.
Have there been any releases of what the going price would be for the S3 in the US? I ready font want to spend $300 for a phone.
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id prefer the s3, because of its outstanding benchmark, and some new features in smartphones but the design nexus is better,

eppo12- said:
I have verizon, and unless the rules have changed, you can upgrade after 18 months, and get $50 off at a 24 months. Why pay so much for a phone, when your not sure for an upgrade? So I would have to wait 18 months minimum.
Have there been any releases of what the going price would be for the S3 in the US? I ready font want to spend $300 for a phone.
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I would recommend against the verizon version of the nexus, for the reasons above. Though of course, my opinion is not the end-all.
Buying a phone outright gets you more flexibility and, if you go with prepaid, lower costs overall. As you said, you have to wait > 18 months to get a new one under your plan [and you'd have lost out, with your increased rates, if you don't]. I can get my next phone anytime [and am subject to low rates all the time]. My nexus, for example, is definitely good for this year, but I don't want to count on my prophetical powers for anything longer. If it gets broken, or just plain outclassed, I want to be able to grab the newest thing on the market right away.
(Note: Prepaid vs contract is a much more complicated issue than I might have made it sound above; you'd have to shop and probably have to use something besides Verizon, for one thing.)
Another recent thing to note: Verizon is removing unlimited upgrades (you'd be forced onto a tiered plan), though you can keep your old plan if you get your new phone on your own.

I'm not sure what the exact pricing is, but for arguments sake, lets say that the nexus is 200 with contact, and 400 without, pushy the going rate 400? How would you get out any cheaper? And I'm sure no where near $200.
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eppo12- said:
I'm not sure what the exact pricing is, but for arguments sake, lets say that the nexus is 200 with contact, and 400 without, pushy the going rate 400? How would you get out any cheaper? And I'm sure no where near $200.
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The price differential over 24 months adds up.
For example, T-mobile has a $30 100 minute 5 gig prepaid, and Straight Talk has a $45 unlimited prepaid; there are others to shop around for, but those are the most commonly cited. Assuming you even get the cheapest Verizon plan, $40 (450 minutes talk) + $10 (1000 smses) + $30 (2 gb data) = $80 (per month)
Verizon's $80/month is already $35/month more than ST. That means you save $840 over 24 months by going even the more expensive prepaid. (Compared to this, the puny $200 subsidy is nothing.)
For the t-mobile plan, the differential is a whopping $50, and you save, holy hell, $1200 over 24 months.
In other words, the subsidy is just a psychological scam make you think you've got a discount, when really, the higher prices per month make all the difference.

thebobp said it quite well.
But I'm hoping to sign a new contract and keep my grandfathered unlimited plan. I'd liked to upgrade to the S3 with unlimited grandfathered LTE, but that's hoping that the S3 is available before Verizon starts pushing the shared data plans (at which point I can't upgrade to LTE and keep unlimited data).
If the S3 isn't coming out before then, then I'm thinking I should just get a Gnex so I can start enjoying unlimited LTE data.

Wow, I've never thought about it that way. I always thought those other providers offered a lower level of service? I know t mobile has crap service around here, so you can't be using all of verizons network.
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eppo12- said:
I always thought those other providers offered a lower level of service?
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"Lower level of service" is just company propaganda. The only relevant question is which one offers good enough service for you, for the cheapest price. And unfortunately, there's no easy way to answer that except to try them out, preferably cheapest to most expensive. Even reviews aren't all that relevant, simply because service can vary so wildly depending on location. Thankfully, prepaid is a natural platform for "just trying a service out", but it does require a compatible phone.
I don't know what you mean by "tmobile using all of verizon's network"; they're completely distinct. Straight talk (and many others) are carried over AT&T and t-mobile's networks, though.

Thanks a lot for all your replies.
As far as the network goes, I thought tmobile used verizons network, because when 4g came out, they were the only other ones saying they used 4g lte. So I just assumed they used verizons network.
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I'm in a similar situation, right now I'm waiting to see what the S3 looks like in the US. If its not to my liking I'll probably get the Nexus, and a + for the Nexus is it will be getting Android 5.0 aka Jellybean. I would also buy it from the Google Play Store so it doesnt have any bloatware, however that is $299.

If you've made it this long with the Galaxy S, I say wait for the next Nexus. Especially with the rumors of several different manufacturers being able to build their own Nexus device.

I would take the samsung nexus. The S3 doesn't offer enough power difference in my opinion to spend the extra money on. Most of its software features aren't that good imho. And if they are you can find a similar app on the market for it.

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I would take the samsung nexus. The S3 doesn't offer enough power difference in my opinion to spend the extra money on. Most of its software features aren't that good imho. And if they are you can find a similar app on the market for it.
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Have you heard anything about the S3 US version being dual core? because i would think that the Nexus being Dual Core, vs the S3 being quad core would be a big difference.
I'm going to have to look around to see when the next nexus is getting released.
my S1 annoys me a bit, but maybe i'm just getting the itch to get a new phone. every once and a while it stops responding to touch, if you hit the power button, and then unlock the phone again, its been coming back. also, playback skips when i first start playing something in dog catcher, and some games... yeah, I know.. i guess its more of an itch than anything else, but at least this way, i can make an informed decision if/when my phone completely dies.
i am running gingerbread rom, i recently reinstalled it from scratch, and then reinstalled my apps, but its still the same.
I guess i'll try and hold onto this phone as long as i can. I do like the service with verizon, and get a hefty discount from my job, so i'm a bit weary to switch carriers.

eppo12- said:
Have you heard anything about the S3 US version being dual core? because i would think that the Nexus being Dual Core, vs the S3 being quad core would be a big difference.
I'm going to have to look around to see when the next nexus is getting released.
my S1 annoys me a bit, but maybe i'm just getting the itch to get a new phone. every once and a while it stops responding to touch, if you hit the power button, and then unlock the phone again, its been coming back. also, playback skips when i first start playing something in dog catcher, and some games... yeah, I know.. i guess its more of an itch than anything else, but at least this way, i can make an informed decision if/when my phone completely dies.
i am running gingerbread rom, i recently reinstalled it from scratch, and then reinstalled my apps, but its still the same.
I guess i'll try and hold onto this phone as long as i can. I do like the service with verizon, and get a hefty discount from my job, so i'm a bit weary to switch carriers.
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Have you seen the difference between the Quad core One X and the dual core version? No? Neither has anyone else.

eppo12- said:
Have you heard anything about the S3 US version being dual core? because i would think that the Nexus being Dual Core, vs the S3 being quad core would be a big difference.
I'm going to have to look around to see when the next nexus is getting released.
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S3 LTE will most definitely be a dual core, because no quad core supports LTE.
Rumors about Nexus launch date say thanksgiving.
eppo12- said:
As far as the network goes, I thought tmobile used verizons network, because when 4g came out, they were the only other ones saying they used 4g lte. So I just assumed they used verizons network.
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There is no 4g; it hasn't come out yet. The 4g standard requires 1Gbps data, while LTE is capable of max 300Mbps data and, in practice, can get as low as a single-digit Mbps. See this article for more information. Basically, the marketing departments here in the US realized they could get away with calling crap 4G, and that's what we have now.
The much more relevant question is how fast a particular service is in your area (because it can vary so wildly), and that can't be answered by anything except trial and error.