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What the heck was I thinking????

Walked into a Verizon store so my girlfriend could get a new phone. As the salesman was helping her out, he started up a conversation with me about who I had service with and what phone I was using.
Like a gun slinger pulling out his shiny nickle plated revolver I smuggly produced my fully hacked and modded Samsung Captivate. He was seriously impressed with it. Especially that I had a 2.2.1 ROM loaded on it with all the bells and whistles.
Then the fun was over and he hit me where it hurt....."How much are you paying each month for your service?"
To shorten up this story I will just skip to the part where he offered me a service plan on my 3 lines (2 of which are Captivates) that was almost too good to be true, and before I new it, my poor cappy was now nothing more than a hopped up mp3 player, and I was the new owner of a Droid X.
Its been 2 days, and I have yet to have a conversation where the phone doesn't shut down in the middle of it. I have flashed the latest and greatest ROM over on the Droid X side but it still reboots at will. I have found numerous people with the same problem after searching Google, but no fixes for it.
Coincidentally, the second droid is doing the same thing.
To be honest, even without the reboot issue, the DX just doesn't compare to my Captivate in any way.....well except for one. The GPS is stinking flawless on the droid.
I want to drive by the Verizon store and throw all three phones through the window and go back to AT&T begging them to take me back without either of them charging me out the yahoo in penalties.
Does anyone know if I can switch back without any issues or is Verizon and AT&T both gonna stick it to me? I made the purchase 7pm Sunday the 16th.
Its worth mentioning that two numbers have been ported over to Verizon and one will not be for another week or two. So technically I still have an account with AT&T.
Thanks in advance for any replies.

At&t should be able to restore your numbers on your account. Basically everything goes back to the way it was before you ported. Then you should get credited back for the ETA fees if they already billed you for it. There may be reactivation fees though...
Doing so would also automatically cancel your Verizon account so you would need to return all the equipment back to them otherwise they'll charback your credit cards for the retail prices of the phones.
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I am actually very tempted to switch to Verizon solely due to all the scrap and issues that ATT has given me in the past. And that their 4G network promises to bring only mediocre speeds is not appealing either.
I mean, I love my Captivate, but I don't think that ATT's service is worth the money or hassle. If my workplace wasn't paying and forcing me to stay, I would have jumped ship 4 years ago.
(Why didn't you get a HTC Droid Incredible? What were you thinking? )
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All of my friends with Droid X's talk them up bigtime, then they see my screen and the realize that for them, black is just dark grey.

You should have 30 days to go back to Verizon and tell them thanks, but no thanks.

Verizon gives you 30 days to try out new phones. all you have to do is return it and they will charge you a pro-rated amount for the service that you used, nothing else. No etf's or any penalties. And I'm sure AT&T would be more than willing to take you back, especially if you are coming back from verizon.

No lie, I have heard horrible things about DROID. My buddy has replaced his 3 times.

Aus_Azn said:
I am actually very tempted to switch to Verizon solely due to all the scrap and issues that ATT has given me in the past. And that their 4G network promises to bring only mediocre speeds is not appealing either.
I mean, I love my Captivate, but I don't think that ATT's service is worth the money or hassle. If my workplace wasn't paying and forcing me to stay, I would have jumped ship 4 years ago.
(Why didn't you get a HTC Droid Incredible? What were you thinking? )
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I have no problems with att, and verizon's 4g speed is still less than the six mb/s att's 3g pulls down. I seed no reason to switch to verizon. slower, less coverage, customer service is crap, phone are ****e... Att has been nothing but gold to me.
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skatcat31 said:
I have no problems with att, and verizon's 4g speed is still less than the six mb/s att's 3g pulls down. I seed no reason to switch to verizon. slower, less coverage, customer service is crap, phone are ****e... Att has been nothing but gold to me.
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Verizon's theoretical speed is upwards of 15Mbps last I checked. AT&T's 3G coverage seems to be pretty shoddy for me; often when I'm travelling, I am forced to EDGE; it doesn't really bother me that much, but means my internet is heavily crippled. For customer service, ATT's bricked 4 of my phones and asked me to pay. I don't think it gets much worse than that; at least I managed to force them to upgrade my RAZR V3 to a V3XX after it just died within 2 months, then to send me a new one when they bricked that while unlocking it, then sending me a new LG Shine after bricking that while unlocking it when I owned it. Worst was when they bricked my Bold 9700 when they told me to update it after my data got spontaneously wiped.
AT&T has no good phones save for the Captivate and the iPhone (both of which are debatable at this point), so I have no clue what your point there is. Any of Verizon's Droids destroy both.

Aus_Azn said:
Verizon's theoretical speed is upwards of 15Mbps last I checked. AT&T's 3G coverage seems to be pretty shoddy for me; often when I'm travelling, I am forced to EDGE; it doesn't really bother me that much, but means my internet is heavily crippled. For customer service, ATT's bricked 4 of my phones and asked me to pay. I don't think it gets much worse than that; at least I managed to force them to upgrade my RAZR V3 to a V3XX after it just died within 2 months, then to send me a new one when they bricked that while unlocking it, then sending me a new LG Shine after bricking that while unlocking it when I owned it. Worst was when they bricked my Bold 9700 when they told me to update it after my data got spontaneously wiped.
AT&T has no good phones save for the Captivate and the iPhone (both of which are debatable at this point), so I have no clue what your point there is. Any of Verizon's Droids destroy both.
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i also hate at$t, but in my area it is great!! and yeah i want the infuse! i need a bigger screen,atrix will be aswome im sure, just root, flash and love life

I got a free dell streak from my dell Rep and it is easily day shiznit. It came with froyo preloaded and it is unlocked. Works great on att but there is no compatiable software for front facing webcam.
Can't beat it really. And the GPS works instantly
For realz
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I talked to the verizon rep that sold me my phones. He replaced the dx's (which have worked flawlessly btw), and told me to give it a couple of weeks before I made my move.
I have to admit, I'm liking the new coverage. I'm not getting the 2 and 3mgs download speeds I was getting on my cappy, (which I could only get in very few areas) but I am getting about 1.5mgs on the dx almost everywhere with verizon coverage.
The dx isn't a elegant a my cappy and I have had to jump through a couple of hoops to get a custom rom installed, but it is just as functional, and the gps has been spot on.
I miss my captivate pretty bad, but as the initial shock is wearing off, verizon doesn't seem do bad.
I still have a couple of weeks to decide and my cappy is still sitting on my dresser just incase.
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It's pretty retarded to leave AT&T when we're a matter of weeks away from the holy grail of Android.

derek4484 said:
Verizon gives you 30 days to try out new phones. all you have to do is return it and they will charge you a pro-rated amount for the service that you used, nothing else. No etf's or any penalties. And I'm sure AT&T would be more than willing to take you back, especially if you are coming back from verizon.
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Just to correct everyone about the "30 days" to return/cancel your service with Verizon. On Sunday the 16th (the day the OP purchased his phone) Verizon implemented a 14 day (not 30) day period to avoid the ETF.
I know this because I work at a national retailer who sells Verizon phones.
That explains why the rep said "just give it a couple more weeks." Wow do I hate people who try to screw others over (the rep in this case).
"You may return or exchange wireless devices and accessories purchased from Verizon Wireless within 14 days of purchase. A restocking fee of $35 ($70 for netbooks and tablets) applies to any return or exchange of a wireless device (excluding Hawaii)."
http://www.verizonwireless.com/ReturnPolicy.shtml

I know 2 people with Droid X's and TBH they are horrible. I'm not saying SGS phones don't have their own unique issues but the "official" 2.2 for the Droid X is seriously just bad. They both have random shutdowns/reboots and they are sluggish compared to SGS phones. The one lady I know used my cappy and didn't understand why her droid was was so much slower...at everything. I told her that's what she gets for buying a phone because it's "Cool" because they have a commercial for it ever other commercial break. Also did you look into if you get a discount through ATT for your job? I get 20% off my bill (5 phones, 3 cappys, iphone3g, crap flip phone) for a company I haven't worked for for like 4 years now.
As for the Streak, I burned all my Jinco's 15 years ago and bought jeans that fit. I don't care how great it supposedly is or isn't, a 5" phone is to big to fit in a normal pair of jeans comfortably and not look retarded.

MikeyMike01 said:
It's pretty retarded to leave AT&T when we're a matter of weeks away from the holy grail of Android.
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That might be true Mike but my money says you'll be pulling your hair out trying to port 2.3 over to the Atrix with its locked up boot loader when the Bionic is to be released with it already.
And its almost a sure bet you can tack on about 6 to 8 months on AT&T's promised release date on any phone they advertise.
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Verizon gives you 30 days to try out new phones. all you have to do is return it and they will charge you a pro-rated amount for the service that you used, nothing else. No etf's or any penalties. And I'm sure AT&T would be more than willing to take you back, especially if you are coming back from verizon.
Just to correct everyone about the "30 days" to return/cancel your service with Verizon. On Sunday the 16th (the day the OP purchased his phone) Verizon implemented a 14 day (not 30) day period to avoid the ETF.
I know this because I work at a national retailer who sells Verizon phones.
That explains why the rep said "just give it a couple more weeks." Wow do I hate people who try to screw others over (the rep in this case).
"You may return or exchange wireless devices and accessories purchased from Verizon Wireless within 14 days of purchase. A restocking fee of $35 ($70 for netbooks and tablets) applies to any return or exchange of a wireless device (excluding Hawaii)."
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This is correct. He told me this Tuesday. I bought the phones Sunday. So I have until the next saturday to make up my mind.

Just so you know, Verizon's is CDMA which means it will have weaker call signal and stronger data signal. The signal bars only report your data signal, not your voice call signal. It can be very deceiving.
Also, you cannot use data while using the phone to talk to someone. So you can't say, "Let me look it up right now." Because it will just say "No Data Connection."

if you decide to stay with verizon, make sure you check your bill each month. vzw likes to add bogus fees that most of their customers don't even notice. this happened to both me & my gf (on separate accounts)

First Verizon's return policy is 14 days after that etf is 375$ no matter where u r n contract, 2nd they don't have a 4G phone that has 4G speeds nor do any carrier. ATT speeds are greater at 3G than all competitors except tmo areas that are using their upgraded 3g network they claim is 4g and they r barely faster but they have a small area their coverage covers without losing Singal since they "changed their 3g".
And who would do the droid x over the cappy? That sales man must be good at what be does because stock the cappy kills droid x in all benchmarks and speed tests for network since Verizon 3g network is the slowest of all major carriers. Do a speed test bet it don't do more then 1.2Mbps down when I can get 5Mbps on my cappy with ATT.
ATT 4G when it is rolled out will do 4-5x faster then what it does now which is suppose to be 7Mbps x 4 so around 28Mbps down is insane... my phone is already faster then a lot of dsl providers...
Anyway not flaming just wanted to put my 2cents in with facts. My brother owns a droid x its not bad but cappy is one nice piece of hardware
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Just wondering why the op was in the Verizon store. Take her to an AT&T store man! But, to each their own.
Personally, I am looking forward to the Atrix.
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So my contract is up and I'm thinking about switching to ATT. I'm going to wait until the inspire 4g first. Any thoughts on ATT?
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Data plans sucks to be honest

Right now I pay 140 a month with a 20% discount. This is for a family data plan. I would get the same discount with ATT. I think I would pay about 160 or 170 with ATT
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klquicksall said:
Right now I pay 140 a month with a 20% discount. This is for a family data plan. I would get the same discount with ATT. I think I would pay about 160 or 170 with ATT
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I think it comes to around $100 a month for a single line, not sure, never had a contract in my life jsut stuck around with prepaid. also you must be carefull when on roaming, as charges are heavy. if your just going for the phone, then you should wait as there are more phones coming to other networks

Thanks for the info. I didn't know ATT charged roaming.
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klquicksall said:
Thanks for the info. I didn't know ATT charged roaming.
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I meant international, dont know about local like i said i never had them, i know cause i ask them all these questions since i;m in their store checking out phones

Switch to T-Mo for the best Android phones and awesome customer support.
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Frankly, if you live somewhere without 3G and want to use data, AT&T really sucks.
All this fastest network crap is moot when verizon and tmobile have high speed networks where I live and it takes me a full minute to load a web page.
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Im in the same boat all my phones are going to be up this year and was thinking of switching to Tmo. but i have been with sprint for 9 or 10 years now and have not had one problem. so i might just stay with sprint.

Im on ATT and im on a family plan right now; my phone costs a total of 30 bucks a month (5 for having the line, 25 for 2gb data).
You should definitely wait until mwc to see what all comes out. The inspire looks really good though.
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon

I used to have AT&T and I switched to T-mo when the Nexus S was released. I got tired of my iphone and wanted to experience android. So glad i did!
I had been on AT&T for 7 years (4 years being an iphone user) and never really had any issues with there service.
I travel alot and always got wonderful reception no matter where I went ( besides LA, if you live in LA avoid AT&T)
if your looking to switch to AT&T I would deff check out the Moto Atrix 4G. Although I never liked motorola to be honest and think there phones are junk. There putting an a killer phone. Tegra 2 processor. Super AMOLED plus LCD.
Check out the Atrix 4G over the inspire, the inspire is sort of old technology I feel like when compared to the new powerhouse phones coming out with tegra 2's.
HTC should of revamped the Inspire with new internals instead of just rebranding the Desire.

Go for a company with a Unlimited Data Plan. I hate the ATT Data Plan.

Am concidering making the jump to Verizon

I have been back and forth to Verizon a couple of times this week looking at the thunderbolt ...Right now I have a nexus s with T-Mobile,witch I do love,but am really not game to stick around with disaster that at&t is going to create...so my question, who has gotten one coming from a nexus s or galaxy's and how do u like it? This is one hard decision for me to make,any real honest opinions would be great
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I switched from a Nexus S. The TB is an awesome phone and the data speeds are amazing. Really the single downside that I've found is that the black levels of the screen don't compare at all to the Nexus S, but then again nothing else really compares to the contrast of Super Amoled. The TB screen however does appear clearer and sharper to me than the NS screen. I have no regrets about switching, and my plan is only $5/month more on Verizon than I was paying to Tmo.

I switch from a mytouch 4g and haven't looked back.
Verizon is more expensive then tmobile in every way and luckily my company has a 19% off voice plans so my transition was easier.
Lte is definitely worth it if you can get grandfathered into the unlimited plan.
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One other thing, if you aren't in a 4g area then I don't think I would switch.

I switched from Tmobile as well. I think it is a great idea. I have had both Galaxy S phones and HTC phones on Tmoible ( I had every top end phone that came out between the N1 and the MT4G).
I think that now is a great time to jump ship and get Grandfathered into Verizons Unlimited 4G data plans before they go to tiered. The speeds are Amazing. I mean like 3-5 times the speeds of the fastest speed test I ever pulled with Tmobile. I could get 5-6mbps on Tmo in strong HSPA+ area. I get a minimum of 10mpbs down on Verizon, and have seen speeds nearing 30mbps down and 35+ up. That is twice my comcast cable modem speed.
I think the 200$ etf was worth every penny! The phone is nice and compares to every top end phone out there. It is on the best network in the USA according to consumer reports.
GET IT. I have no regrets leaving TMO. It is awesome I get coverage everywhere now, real 4G and Strong 3G where 4G isn't!

I have the Nexus S and got this device as well. LTE is simply stunning. that being said, I returned the Thunderbolt because in the end, the Nexus S was the better phone for me. You'll be happy with either phone for sure but there are pros and cons on each side and really comes to the individual user. If you are thinking about it, try it out as you have 14 days before you have to commit. Verizon is the best carrier hands down but I've never had any issues with T-Mobile either. So to me the decision wasn't about the carrier but about the devices themselves

I have until next Friday to decide, its when I get payed and will have to sell my ns shortly there after,and yea my Verizon bill would only run about $15 more then with T-Mobile ..
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Yea I love my ns! But....its future is in the hands of at&t and we all know what that means.....
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Come on in the waters fine......

Raver27 said:
Yea I love my ns! But....its future is in the hands of at&t and we all know what that means.....
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That's not known yet, it still has to pass some regulatory hurdles and complaints filed by Sprint. Although I hear yeah, the thought of AT&T makes me cringe too.

I just opened a brand new account on vzw and got Thunderbolt. Wasn't ready to give away my iOS experience and AT&T 3G that's actually pretty decent and nicely fills the speed gap between LTE and EVDO. My Verizon plan is heavily discounted through corp employee channel so I really can't complain.
The LTE network alone is worth switching to Verizon.

I'm like gr8Gorilla. I've owned just about every one of TMOs better phones, and yes there was a few I enjoyed very much. After hearing the news last Sunday about AT&T taking over, or wanting to take over TMO I knew it was time for me to take off. I refuse to put a dime into AT&T pockets!
Anyway, my thoughts on Verizon... Hands down It was the best move I've made all year thus far. IT's BIG, it's an HTC, it has good weight to it, and best of all it's F'ING FAST!
Yeah, I'll be paying a little more, but in the end it's gonna be well worth it! Stop thinking about it, and JUST DO IT!

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Returning g2x probably leaving tmo

I will be returning the g2x and leaving to sprint.
Yesterday I received my 3rd unit. Now I have never had the other 2 past any remorse period.
The phone had finger prints on it. Ding! First flag.
I mean crusted finger prints. Like food leaves on a phone.
Then the after removing the screen protector there are clear hairline scratches in the center bottom part of the screen.. like its been dropped and the polished.
The scratches still very visible.
Tmo sent me a refurbished phone.
I was told its showing as new. But there may have been a mix up at the factory and a refurbished unit may have been sent.
Well that person should stop eating cheetoes before packaging phones.
I'm getting my refund. I'm leaving my grandfathered plan of my faves 89.00 a mnth.
To sprint for unlimited everything 79.00 a mnth.
I just want a working product. I never received a NEW working product like I paid for.
And now I'm getting used scratched up replacements.
Ill be looking to Sprint honestly.
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Have fun with 400 minutes..... should find out what your plan provides you first. Unlimited mobile minutes and 400 anytime.
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Good luck with that. I just left Sprint and will never go back...
Compare the level of complaints between T mobile and Sprint, I think it is really clear how bad Sprint is. Go to the forums at Sprint.com and see. People are REALLY angry. Myself included. Then look at T mobiles. People complain, of course. But not nearly at the same level. Not even close.
I was a customer from 2007 to 2009. When there was a huge error on my bill, I told them my contract was expired and I'd be leaving. I had bills to prove when I had signed my contract, yet they informed me I had several months left on it.
I waited that two months out and ran from them as fast as I could. I heard "That's what our records indicate" so many times I throw up in my mouth just thinking about it. It was awful.
Stupidly, I went back this past April. I was having issues w/ MetroPcs and the Samsung Indulge.
I just got through with a horrible horrible 3 weeks dealing with a bunch of jerks at Sprint.
I invoked the guarantee and left. Triple checked that I owed nothing.
Got a bill yesterday.The full months bill past due.....and they said I owed JUST the insurance to this months due.
Called Sprint really upset. The rep assured me he'd deleted it and that I owed nothing. After I railed about how really bad my experience was, he assured me that Sprint was sorry and hated to see me go. He was SO sorry that he would delete the "unexplained" six dollars left due on my account!!!! This right after he's just assured me my account was zeroed out! Unbelievable.
Be afraid. Really afraid. My experience was bad. Read the posts at their own forums.
Since I've left, I've sent them many notes detailing my experience. Have yet to receive a reply. Sprint DOESN'T care.

You will love sprint. I've been a customer for over 5 years. And as for the 400 anytime minutes, that's obviously 400 anytime minutes to LAN lines because we have free "any mobile, anytime" minutes. Plus nights start at 7pm for us, not 9pm like T-Mobile.
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lawnmower said:
You will love sprint. I've been a customer for over 5 years. And as for the 400 anytime minutes, that's obviously 400 anytime minutes to LAN lines because we have free "any mobile, anytime" minutes. Plus nights start at 7pm for us, not 9pm like T-Mobile.
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Yes. But for 10 dollars more I don't have to be worrying about anything (79.99 truly unlimited plan). In the other hand your precious 69.99 plan can cost you a headache. Besides if your in xda you have to know that Tmobile has the best android phones.
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I switched from Sprint to T-Mo not too long ago, and all I can say is that my experience with Sprint was horrid at best (really, does anyone truly like their wireless provider). Here's my rundown, but of course ymmv:
-Customer "care" was routinely rude.
-Roaming charges would show up on my bills even though I had an unlimited plan w/o roaming.
-It would take several billing cycles to clear up errors.
-Had to jump through multiple hoops to get warranty repairs done.
-Accused of deliberately damaging phone by a Sprint repair technician.
-Was told by Sprint repair technician he couldn't work on my phone bc there was evidence I rooted it, even though I had re-locked the bootloader, placed stock recovery image on phone, deleted root apps, and removed sd card before taking to repair center.
-A couple of dropped calls a day.
-SMS & MMS messages not being delivered or duplicates of messages.
-Slow "3G" network speed.
-Non-existent "4G" even though I lived in a "4G" area w/ an allegedly strong signal.
Need I go on? I'm not saying that T-Mo is the best ever, but imao, it is far superior to Sprint. Maybe VZW would be better, but their plans are just too expensive. Have they really hassled you about the returns? Probably not. It took my 3 tries to get an acceptable G2x; T-Mo never hassled me or busted my balls about it. Should they have quality controlled better w/ the unit they sent you? Absolutely.
My advice would be to stick w/ T-Mo and keep exchanging that bugger until you get an acceptable unit.

Sprint sucked from day 1, and still sucks. I will go back to verizon before I ever choose sprint.
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VisedMonk said:
I switched from Sprint to T-Mo not too long ago, and all I can say is that my experience with Sprint was horrid at best (really, does anyone truly like their wireless provider). Here's my rundown, but of course ymmv:
-Customer "care" was routinely rude.
-Roaming charges would show up on my bills even though I had an unlimited plan w/o roaming.
-It would take several billing cycles to clear up errors.
-Had to jump through multiple hoops to get warranty repairs done.
-Accused of deliberately damaging phone by a Sprint repair technician.
-Was told by Sprint repair technician he couldn't work on my phone bc there was evidence I rooted it, even though I had re-locked the bootloader, placed stock recovery image on phone, deleted root apps, and removed sd card before taking to repair center.
-A couple of dropped calls a day.
-SMS & MMS messages not being delivered or duplicates of messages.
-Slow "3G" network speed.
-Non-existent "4G" even though I lived in a "4G" area w/ an allegedly strong signal.
Need I go on? I'm not saying that T-Mo is the best ever, but imao, it is far superior to Sprint. Maybe VZW would be better, but their plans are just too expensive. Have they really hassled you about the returns? Probably not. It took my 3 tries to get an acceptable G2x; T-Mo never hassled me or busted my balls about it. Should they have quality controlled better w/ the unit they sent you? Absolutely.
My advice would be to stick w/ T-Mo and keep exchanging that bugger until you get an acceptable unit.
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My experiences were PRECISELY like this. And these things are the exact things seen at Sprint.com. Seriously....JUST LOOK THERE.
Knowledge is power. It could not be any more obvious on their own site.

i left sprint, horrible customer service was my main problem. and i like the use of sim cards. i swear sprint has reps in india
sprint messes up on your bill alot, i had to call in alot to get stuff fixed and i dealt with so many prorated charges.. they were cheap tho lol

Experiences will differ from person to person, but I came back to T-Mobile from Sprint for the G2x and couldn't be happier (even though my phone has a few problems).
Things I disliked about Sprint:
Awful customer service
3G speeds that are 1mb down or less. If you want faster, you have to turn on the battery sucking 4G. You think our G2x's die fast? Try using any Sprint phone with WiMax enabled for more than 2 hours and get back to me.
Spotty 4G coverage. I live in Houston, and you'd think that since it's a pretty big city, we'd have solid 4G coverage. Nope! Unless you're in a spot that you know has 4G and you're not moving, it's useless. Don't bother using it while driving
Equipment. I'm a GSM fanboy. SIM cards make life 100 times easier.
Either way, best of luck.

I just came from 10yrs of Verizon to T-Mobile. My first phone with them was the G2X. I travel in the US very heavily. Ive been very unhappy with their service. Verizon was always dead on reliable when traveling.
I have a trip next week and if its not any better (they said to try a new SIM card) than I will have to leave and go back to Verizon.

Aaron636r said:
I just came from 10yrs of Verizon to T-Mobile. My first phone with them was the G2X. I travel in the US very heavily. Ive been very unhappy with their service. Verizon was always dead on reliable when traveling.
I have a trip next week and if its not any better (they said to try a new SIM card) than I will have to leave and go back to Verizon.
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There's no doubt Verizon has the best coverage out of all the major carriers. The problem is that they're just too expensive for some people (me)
I came from sprint to TMobile and couldn't be any happier. I get signal at home and work which I didn't with sprint plus for some reason both my evo and epic would not even reach 1mb/s download speeds even with a good 3g signal
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I agree, their cheaper. But having no service isn't worth the cheaper part. If I have to pay more for greater coverage...than I don't have a choice

Aaron636r said:
I agree, their cheaper. But having no service isn't worth the cheaper part. If I have to pay more for greater coverage...than I don't have a choice
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Hopefully it was just the SIM card. I have very impressed with T-Mobile coverage.
I was a little hesitant at first but not any more.
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Can we stop these pointless threads please? Yes we know some people aren't happy with the phone or service but there are many who feel the opposite.
If you're unhappy then move along and post in the forum where you are happy with whatever carrier / phone that makes you happy.

I feel your pain. As of today I have my third g2x on the way.
I know from what I hear sprint is better than it used to be. 10 years ago when I was a freshman at college I changed from what is now t mobile (voice stream back then) to sprint. I was going to a smaller school that was smaller in a small town, scholarships are nice. Sprint was the only carrier that worked down there.
One day I was waiting for a friend to call me so we could go do something and never heard from him. I called him all upset and he asked why my number was showing up differently. He has been trying to call my, but sprint decided to change my area code and not let me know. I called sprint to see what was going on, and they confirmed they changed my area code. I was pretty mad that they did this, and didn't let me know. They informed me that the local telephone company should of let me know. Even back then I knew the local phone company had nothing to do with it. I could see if they might of informed my parents before me because they were paying the bill. So I called my parents to let them know that the area code had changed. I guess they had been freaking out. They could not get a hold of me for 3 days because of the area code change.
Then a couple of months later my phone got broken. I had payed for the insurance in case anything happened to the phone. Well I did get my phone replaced, but at the time I had the most expensive phone that sprint had. Its been so long I don't remember what it was. Well I did get a replacement, but it was the cheapest phone that they carried. I was informed that the insurance just meant that I got a new phone, not the same one I had. Needless to say I was mad, so as soon as my 2 years was up I left and never came back. It is so much simpler now that we can transfer our phone numbers.

lawnmower said:
You will love sprint. I've been a customer for over 5 years. And as for the 400 anytime minutes, that's obviously 400 anytime minutes to LAN lines because we have free "any mobile, anytime" minutes. Plus nights start at 7pm for us, not 9pm like T-Mobile.
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And sprint TV included.
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I left sprint for the G2x. Sprint has crappy coverage, but to each there own. Best of luck...

I just don't know damn.
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That's why I never order online... returning and waiting for phones is such a pain especially if they send you the wrong thing...i always get my phones in store that way I know it's not refurbished.
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Is LG the old Samsung?

Name in the title says it all. Will anyone ever buy another LG phone? After the Behold II debacle, allot of people swore they would never buy Samsung again.

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Name in the title says it all. Will anyone ever buy another LG phone? After the Behold II debacle, allot of people swore they would never buy Samsung again.
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And yet they did and I'm going so far as to predict Samsung will topple part of Apple's stranglehold on the smarthphone and tablet market.

hey jrwingate can I have your sensation

c19932 said:
hey jrwingate can I have your sensation
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I'll think about that and get back to yah.

Absolutely not. This will definitely be the last. The way they put a strangle hold on the carrier with this phone is ridiculous. They should stop making phones all together.
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Triune said:
Absolutely not. This will definitely be the last. The way they put a strangle hold on the carrier with this phone is ridiculous. They should stop making phones all together.
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How'd they put a stranglehold on the carrier?

not here
almost everything i own is lg i guarantee as i replace it wont be.
and ill play around with the g2x until a good phone comes out on verizon my update is good in august there and it looks like i can keep unlimited data, glad i didnt cancel it. i should be able to sell the g2x to pay off the etf on tmobile. and only loss will be the differnce between g2x sale and 400 - 200etf 200 phone.
wasnt expecting to stay with tmobile more than a year since i know the merger is already bought and paid for with the fcc. but tmobile has seriously disapointed me, they are nothing now like everything i have read and the people i talked to. must already be ATTMobile.

eagle1967 said:
almost everything i own is lg i guarantee as i replace it wont be.
and ill play around with the g2x until a good phone comes out on verizon my update is good in august there and it looks like i can keep unlimited data, glad i didnt cancel it. i should be able to sell the g2x to pay off the etf on tmobile. and only loss will be the differnce between g2x sale and 400 - 200etf 200 phone.
wasnt expecting to stay with tmobile more than a year since i know the merger is already bought and paid for with the fcc. but tmobile has seriously disapointed me, they are nothing now like everything i have read and the people i talked to. must already be ATTMobile.
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I will be headed for Verizon as soon as the ATT merger goes through but right now there is no point since in my area T-Mobile has the fastest data speeds by a long shot and the cheapest pricing as I am on a loyalty plan. That said, it is hit or miss with T-Mobile but if I don't get my way with customer service, I just keep calling back. I mean, I really can't think of any other provider that would have gave me a free Sensation and let me keep my G2X while still remaining contract free. Can you?

Gold Star>>>LG
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I will be headed for Verizon as soon as the ATT merger goes through but right now there is no point since in my area T-Mobile has the fastest data speeds by a long shot and the cheapest pricing as I am on a loyalty plan. That said, it is hit or miss with T-Mobile but if I don't get my way with customer service, I just keep calling back. I mean, I really can't think of any other provider that would have gave me a free Sensation and let me keep my G2X while still remaining contract free. Can you?
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http://androidheadlines.com/2011/06/verizons-new-data-plans-broken-down-in-complete-detail.html I will stay
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You'd think that after two different manufacturers both produce craptastic phones for the same carrier then the blame should really be leaning towards T-Mobile's allowance of said phones into their line-up..?
Previous Samsung Vibrant user here and still the same T-Mo customer service bullsh*t with the G2x.
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S0NiX0928 said:
You'd think that after two different manufacturers both produce craptastic phones for the same carrier then the blame should really be leaning towards T-Mobile's allowance of said phones into their line-up..?
Previous Samsung Vibrant user here and still the same T-Mo customer service bullsh*t with the G2x.
I was a Vibrant user as well and I loved almost everything about the phone except the GPS.
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@jrwingate6
The Vibrant gave me GPS issues constantly... I guess this was a bigger issue for me since I was travelling a lot at the time. The GPS issues were widespread and poorly handled by Samsung in my opinion, also didn't like how they dropped the Vibrant and replaced it with a clone with a FFC under the disguise of Galaxy S 4G.
The final straw was once I started to notice my notification bar clock burning into the screen (along with some of the constantly displayed icons). I bailed before the problems got worse and argued with T-Mo till they at least gave me a free upgrade.
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I'll never say "I'll never buy from "X" place" again. You aren't going to make a liar out of me. Samsung botched the vibrant (and a few others) and I along with nearly everyone else is drooling over the gs2. With this many different devices with different hardware and software variants, some are bound to be lemons. What I'd really wish t-mobile(and other carriers) would do is offer to reset phone upgrades for people with specific devices that have well known and documented issues. My old vibrant, for instance... everytime I call to complain about the gps issue, EVERY csr tells me this is a known issue and sends me a replacement. I've swapped it out 6 times in 9 months and even asked for a different phone of equal value and been shot down, as recent as 2 weeks ago. I don't want a free phone, I just want to be able to spend ANOTHER $200 on a "high-end" phone that works.
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Edit: Not worth it.

tweezit said:
Edit: Not worth it.
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I started this thread and never once did I say I wouldn't buy another LG. When the behold II debacle hit, I never said I wouldn't buy a Samsung. This thread was simply starting the obvious. LG is now screwing its customers over just like Samsung used to. But yea. I don't believe for one second half these people will never buy LG again because as soon as the Nexus 3 hits, there is going to be a mass exodus of LG users. You also see how far boycotting samsung got you. No where. They now make some of the best devices out and have no problem selling them.
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