[Q] Why? - General Questions and Answers

I was browsing the page for best smartphones to buy this year, and everywhere the first position is given to iPhone 5, even when Samsung galaxy s4 is not out yet, it occupies second position after iPhone 5, similarly in any other page I check rating iPhone 5 even though it is limited and less powerful than some others, it IS the FIRST, WHY?

Probably because you're looking at a limited sample based on data and opinion for year to date.
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Every review I's depended on the survey provided,
To the web.
And so it might differ in some web to web.
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There is no way to rank the criteria with data, so it can only be based on opinion.

avadis99 said:
I was browsing the page for best smartphones to buy this year, and everywhere the first position is given to iPhone 5, even when Samsung galaxy s4 is not out yet, it occupies second position after iPhone 5, similarly in any other page I check rating iPhone 5 even though it is limited and less powerful than some others, it IS the FIRST, WHY?
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Because rating is not done by a respresentative sample and furthermore it is purely subjective and basically iOS concentrates on making the interface fast as possible and with the quickest response time which most not tech-savvy people define as "ZOMG ITS FAST SO ITS BEST PERFORMANCE!!!1ONE".
Search phones you're interested in on gsm arena, look at the detailed specifications there and read some reviews, not simply ratings.
Happy shopping

My advice to you is avoiding jumping into the fanboy bandwagons as either Apple nor Android fanboys are good.
If you haven't experienced with either one before,
+ spend some times in the stores such AT&T or Best Buy and play around with both iPhone and Android smart phones to get used to it
+ try to look for the features that you want and see which one gives you an edge.
+ do search the online comparison which is unbiased. If you read post that blindly claims "Android is far better" or "iPhone is just simply best" then ignore it since it's not a true review.
+ worst, if you can't come down to the decision, get you a smart phone, either one, iPhone or Android and give it a try for a year or two then switch, pls take note what you like best and worst using that phone. You are the only one able to find the BEST for you, not anyone else.
Note: phone with ton of features, unused features isn't a good phone either.

avadis99 said:
I was browsing the page for best smartphones to buy this year, and everywhere the first position is given to iPhone 5, even when Samsung galaxy s4 is not out yet, it occupies second position after iPhone 5, similarly in any other page I check rating iPhone 5 even though it is limited and less powerful than some others, it IS the FIRST, WHY?
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Just compare your self on website,
www.gsmarena.com
You will get the best.
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Truthfully, Apple products are amazing. Their market is full of fantastic apps created by talented developers. If you use a mac pc or laptop, have an iPad or iPod, they seamlessly integrate. However, I prefer Android because I love to customize my phone, and I enjoy an open source platform. So, nutshell, is iPhone 5 the best phone out there? My answer is it is one of the best. It's definitely nicer looking than most droid phones, but it's just a matter of preference!
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**What phone should I buy next?** -- Not sure what device to buy? Ask here!

Hi everyone,
This thread is a continuation of this thread.
This is here so you can discuss what your next phone/tablet should be, if you're not sure what to pick.
Also, if you need advice as to which device is better than another, then feel free to ask those questions in here aswell.
This is an attempt to clear out all the similar threads being created around these forums.
*NOTE* I will be requesting thread maintenance as and when it is needed, to remove any SPAM comments
Excellent, I hope this will attract some discussion on new devices so new threads won't be opened.
I am not looking for a new phone right now, well maybe not depending on the outcome of HTC repairing my Sensation I guess. I sure hope to find out tomorrow. I think if I was going to get a replacement now I would probably get the SGS3 over the OneX. I really don't like the non-removable battery and maybe worse, no SD slot. I know why they did it for economic reasons but I am just not going to go that direction. Batteries do not last forever and their maximum charge level goes down over time. I want to be able to plug the SD into my computer and do a local backup. I also want to be able to get a bigger or faster SD if one comes out.
I am used to Sense but I am sure I could get used to Touchwiz as well, and I just read in the portal that ROM Cleaner works with the SGS3 now, as long as I can rid of the bloat I am content. I am sure that when my contract is done in a year there will be something newer and better out anyways.
I hope it does aswell. These forums definitely have too many of those threads being created
I think I'd choose the S3 aswell to be honest. Even though the One X is a powerful phone, the S3 can quite easily out perform it, as it can with most phones.
The only time I'd be looking to upgrade is when mine become redundant, which with having an S2 (which can still keep up with the newest flagship devices) and Xperia S, I won't need to upgrade for a while I don't think.
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Never owned a tablet before.. flirting with the idea of a galaxy tab 2 10.1. As of current, I'm all good with my s3 but I'm kinda interested in what this next galaxy note 2 will bring. Guess I'm some sort of galaxy fan.. ever since my vibrant
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OTAw said:
Never owned a tablet before.. flirting with the idea of a galaxy tab 2 10.1. As of current, I'm all good with my s3 but I'm kinda interested in what this next galaxy note 2 will bring. Guess I'm some sort of galaxy fan.. ever since my vibrant
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The galaxy tab 2 10.1 is a pretty good tablet but it just seems a bit bland to me. Mainly because there wasn't much difference from the original galaxy tab 10.1.
The Nexus 7 is a little beast of a tablet though, so that could always be an option for you.
But if you wanna stay with Galaxy, then it's probably best to wait for the Note 2 like you said.
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I have doubts that this will cut down on the many "which device should I buy" threads in this forum, but here's hoping! Ideally, this thread will be used for all such questions. If so, I may sticky it so anyone coming to Q&A looking for advice on which new device to buy will see it.
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I have doubts that this will cut down on the many "which device should I buy" threads in this forum, but here's hoping! Ideally, this thread will be used for all such questions. If so, I may sticky it so anyone coming to Q&A looking for advice on which new device to buy will see it.
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Well obviously I'm hoping for that to be the case.
But we'll just have to wait and see at the moment. Other new threads could always be merged into here, I suppose.
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KidCarter93 said:
The galaxy tab 2 10.1 is a pretty good tablet but it just seems a bit bland to me. Mainly because there wasn't much difference from the original galaxy tab 10.1.
The Nexus 7 is a little beast of a tablet though, so that could always be an option for you.
But if you wanna stay with Galaxy, then it's probably best to wait for the Note 2 like you said.
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My mistake, didn't realize until now I meant the galaxy NOTE 10.1, lol. That seems like a sexy little beast! But the tab 2 doesn't seem too bad for a first time tablet device either.. for the price at least
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To buy Nexus 7 or wait for Microsoft Surface?
The question is really if the Surface will be cheaper than I bet it'll be (under 500)
Nexus 7 seems like awesome tablet, but I think it might be too small for me , but im not really sure, since I never owned a tablet, and where I live I cant go and see any 7 inch tablets in store.
So what you thnik, should I go for Nexus 7 or wait? Or better yet, is there more choices for cheap and quality android tablets?
7 inch tablets seem like an odd size to me. Not really big enough for the things I would use it for to replace a laptop, but too big to replace my phone.
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7 inch tablets seem like an odd size to me. Not really big enough for the things I would use it for to replace a laptop, but too big to replace my phone.
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You are totally right, but now to think other way: its easier to carry 7inch than 10inch tablet.
Also forgot to mention I have some problems with eyesight so bigger tablet might also be better choice, But the nexus 7 price really seems like a good selling point. But if the Surface RT will be 200, then I probably going to miss my money too much.
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You are totally right, but now to think other way: its easier to carry 7inch than 10inch tablet.
Also forgot to mention I have some problems with eyesight so bigger tablet might also be better choice, But the nexus 7 price really seems like a good selling point. But if the Surface RT will be 200, then I probably going to miss my money too much.
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It depends on when you're going to be using it mainly. If you're out quite a lot of the time, then the Nexus 7 is probably going to be the easiest choice, because of carrying it around.
But if you're more often at home, then the Surface might be better for you because it's a 10.6 inch screen so it makes it easier for your eyes.
Another thing to consider is the operating systems. The Surface will be running Windows 8, but I'm not too sure what that's like to use.
And the Nexus is on Jellybean, it's definitely going to get the upgrade to Key Lime Pie and possibly the update after that aswell.
So, even though the Surface does seem like it'll be right up there with the best of them, I'd suggest the Nexus to be honest. It just seems like the best choice overall.
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KidCarter93 said:
It depends on when you're going to be using it mainly. If you're out quite a lot of the time, then the Nexus 7 is probably going to be the easiest choice, because of carrying it around.
But if you're more often at home, then the Surface might be better for you because it's a 10.6 inch screen so it makes it easier for your eyes.
Another thing to consider is the operating systems. The Surface will be running Windows 8, but I'm not too sure what that's like to use.
And the Nexus is on Jellybean, it's definitely going to get the upgrade to Key Lime Pie and possibly the update after that aswell.
So, even though the Surface does seem like it'll be right up there with the best of them, I'd suggest the Nexus to be honest. It just seems like the best choice overall.
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I might get the nexus 7, if I dont like it I could probably sell it here in Estonia for the money I would get it (from US.).
Also should be mentioned that I dont own a laptop or anything else to carry around, at home I use my desktop, and I dont go out too often, but I think nexus would be nice in school and so on.
Also all these old awesome titles (gta 3, max payne) are made for android these days which I really loved back then, are better to play on 7 inch than 10.6 (better to hold, easier) .
So I think i go for nexus 7, but I hope that I dont get the broken one (from first or second branch), because I couldnt take it back.
I will buy a tablet but I am not sure which. Note 10.1 or Nexus 7? I think nexus 7 is too small as a 4.7 inch phone user but not sure about it. But I want to have pure google experience. Is nexus 7 really that small or not? I'm stuck
I thought about bying the Xiaomi M2 or the Galaxy nexus and i cant pick it since the M2 has better hardware and it is smaller but only MIUI can be installed on him unlike the galaxy nexus which has a huge variety of roms.
In my opinion, a 7 inch tablet is the best for portability and viewing. It feels comfortable to hold with one hand, but it comes down to your personal preference really.
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One of my friends asked me for suggestion...
His budget isn't all that big, with a max cap of 15000 inr (~275 usd, though the indian customs are notorious for high taxes; the s3 costs around 38000 inr = 690 usd; so hope you get the picture)
Mainly looking for a low budget android, maybe even a mid end device...
All he needs is "the latest android" on which he can play games...but I know about the quirks that come with a low end phone: inadequate internal mem, low cpu & gpu, lack of official upgrade support...the list kinda goes on...
I have zeroed on sony's live with walkman, mainly for the fact that it gives the most value for money...
The more the money saved + better features; the more likely choice it would be...
If anybody has better suggestions, please share them...
Brands present in india: Samsung, Htc, Sony, Micromax and smaller presence of Motorola and Huawei...
There is no contract system available here, neither are "subsidies" or such...
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a.cid said:
One of my friends asked me for suggestion...
His budget isn't all that big, with a max cap of 15000 inr (~275 usd, though the indian customs are notorious for high taxes; the s3 costs around 38000 inr = 690 usd; so hope you get the picture)
Mainly looking for a low budget android, maybe even a mid end device...
All he needs is "the latest android" on which he can play games...but I know about the quirks that come with a low end phone: inadequate internal mem, low cpu & gpu, lack of official upgrade support...the list kinda goes on...
I have zeroed on sony's live with walkman, mainly for the fact that it gives the most value for money...
The more the money saved + better features; the more likely choice it would be...
If anybody has better suggestions, please share them...
Brands present in india: Samsung, Htc, Sony, Micromax and smaller presence of Motorola and Huawei...
There is no contract system available here, neither are "subsidies" or such...
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Xperia U perhaps? Should get the 4.0 soon (if already has'nt)
I think it depends on your budget.
S3
My next phone is going to be the S3!! I wish Samsung would stop making the phone bigger though...when I first got the S2 I got made fun of because how big it is although it's very thin...I don't see what's the point of going bigger...

give me a reason why i should choose

give a reason why i should choose the htc one over the s4
things i dont care about
1 design i really dont care its not like im going to feel my phone and kiss it
2 camara i really dont care who has a better camera
what i care about is
1 power
2 battery
3 customization
so plz tell me why i should choose the htc one over the s4
i keep reading that the htc one is better but in what WAY
mrej201 said:
give a reason why i should choose the htc one over the s4
things i dont care about
1 design i really dont care its not like im going to feel my phone and kiss it
2 camara i really dont care who has a better camera
what i care about is
1 power
2 battery
3 customization
so plz tell me why i should choose the htc one over the s4
i keep reading that the htc one is better but in what WAY
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If you care about power and battery, S4 is the way to go.
Customization, Nexus devices. They are simply unbeatable.
You will only want the One, if you really put design and materials as a priority especially the UI.
mrej201 said:
give a reason why i should choose the htc one over the s4
things i dont care about
1 design i really dont care its not like im going to feel my phone and kiss it
2 camara i really dont care who has a better camera
what i care about is
1 power
2 battery
3 customization
so plz tell me why i should choose the htc one over the s4
i keep reading that the htc one is better but in what WAY
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based on what you have said you definitely should get the gs4
something else you should consider is the software - if you want to use all features, you are pretty much stuck with stock software on both phones - you need to decide which stock software you like more
You want other people to tell you what to buy or do??
At least wait until they are both out, read the facts and make your own mind up
It looks like the Galaxy S IV will be your device then!
The HTC One is tailored to the more design attentive crowd. S IV isn't as pretty and lacks a couple features but the power is definitely there and Samsung will probably have more stable builds of AOSP based ROM's for customization
Livebyte said:
If you care about power and battery, S4 is the way to go.
Customization, Nexus devices. They are simply unbeatable.
You will only want the One, if you really put design and materials as a priority especially the UI.
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Why are Nexus devices more customizable? Can't any Android devices be rooted and loaded with custom roms?
Nexus devices are easier to root and unlock the bootloader, and updates are received directly from Google. Although those quick updates come with awful bugs.
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Generally the most consumer popular phones will have the largest customizability, it's true that nexus devices are built for devs and are easy to root, but really.. none of the devices you've listed are hard to root.
In this case, S4 is for you.
But not everyone fancy on getting yesterday product, not everyone fancy Samsung follow Apple step, not everyone think design / material not important.
Andrewtst said:
But not everyone fancy on getting yesterday product, not everyone fancy Samsung follow Apple step, not everyone think design / material not important.
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Apparently, quite a few of them do. It would be a lot easier to argue how awful Samsung's formula is if it weren't working so well. No matter what your personal feelings about Samsung or their products are, does anyone here think the SGS4 won't outsell the SGS3?
Samsung Galaxy S Sales Hit 100 Million
By Angela Moscaritolo January 14, 2013
Samsung on Monday announced a major milestone: global sales of its flagship Galaxy S smartphones have hit 100 million units since the first model made its debut in 2010.
The original Galaxy S smartphone, launched in June 2010, has sold some 24 million units to date, with 10 million purchased during the first seven months of launch, Samsung said. The follow-up Galaxy S II, launched in April 2011, reached the 10 million sales mark in just five months, and has logged sales of around 40 million units to date.
The fastest-selling device in the lineup, however, is the Galaxy S III. The uber-popular phone, unveiled this past May, achieved 20 million global sales in just 100 days, and has now passed the 40 million unit sales mark.​
BarryH_GEG said:
Apparently, quite a few of them do. It would be a lot easier to argue how awful Samsung's formula is if it weren't working so well. No matter what your personal feelings about Samsung or their products are, does anyone here think the SGS4 won't outsell the SGS3?
Samsung Galaxy S Sales Hit 100 Million
By Angela Moscaritolo January 14, 2013
Samsung on Monday announced a major milestone: global sales of its flagship Galaxy S smartphones have hit 100 million units since the first model made its debut in 2010.
The original Galaxy S smartphone, launched in June 2010, has sold some 24 million units to date, with 10 million purchased during the first seven months of launch, Samsung said. The follow-up Galaxy S II, launched in April 2011, reached the 10 million sales mark in just five months, and has logged sales of around 40 million units to date.
The fastest-selling device in the lineup, however, is the Galaxy S III. The uber-popular phone, unveiled this past May, achieved 20 million global sales in just 100 days, and has now passed the 40 million unit sales mark.​
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Galaxy S, S II & S III was total different design device.
S 4 is just recycle - that the main different here, also this year got more competitor, Xperia Z and HTC One ain't bad and direct compete with S 4.
Ya, S 4 probably still selling well not because it was great, because Samsung got money on marketing. Let said S 4 selling well, continuer S 5, S 6, S 7 and so on will be same/similar design. Is this what you all want? Definitely not for me.
mrej201 said:
give a reason why i should choose the htc one over the s4
things i dont care about
1 design i really dont care its not like im going to feel my phone and kiss it
2 camara i really dont care who has a better camera
what i care about is
1 power
2 battery
3 customization
so plz tell me why i should choose the htc one over the s4
i keep reading that the htc one is better but in what WAY
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If you only care about power and battery then get yourself any dual core phone with an extended battery pack. Save yourself a few hundred dollars.
Removable battery on the S4
Andrewtst said:
S 4 is just recycle
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I don't understand why people are saying this, every single technology has been upgraded to the latest thing, or best available at the moment, CPU, memory, camera, screen, battery, added software, added sensors.
What the hell were people expecting? Something that Startrek would be proud of??
The only thing similar is the casing.
Shall I also tell you how to dress and what to eat?
zetsumeikuro said:
Shall I also tell you how to dress and what to eat?
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I'm telling you to send me and zetsumeikuro £500 each
johnk1973 said:
I don't understand why people are saying this, every single technology has been upgraded to the latest thing, or best available at the moment, CPU, memory, camera, screen, battery, added software, added sensors.
What the hell were people expecting? Something that Startrek would be proud of??
The only thing similar is the casing.
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Spec and Design run together, not either one.
Compare the 2 together dude. If design, looks, feel, ui doesn't concern you then go for S4. However The battery life on htc is better then s3, hox, iPhone 5 but not quite as good as Note 2.
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Spec and Design run together, not either one.
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Not necessarily, only if that's what you are looking for, a completely different phone.
Different people are looking for different things, some want design, some fastest CPU, some best camera (me!) , etc.
But hey, everyone is old enough to have their own opinion and wants, the which Is why this thread is so dumb.
Isn't CM dropping this phone for support
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Note 3 Scroll Tests

I am extremely disappointed that scrolling on the Note 3 isn't "buttery smooth" as claimed by many reviewers. I have found scrolling to be janky and jittery most of the time. It completely destroys the touch metaphor. I have posted some examples on YouTube. Unfortunately my camera isn't very good and doesn't shoot at a high enough frame-rate to show just how bad the problem really is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSG9SGP-hyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq3hEDJWe5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucDko2cQQhw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lri0VVQe078
This problem exists with all android device not just note 3.
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Unfortunately i notice too, it's the thing i look first when using a new phone.
I'm too lazy to shoot a video and I only viewed the first of the videos you posted. In it, you played with the Play Store. At first launch I got the same effect you did because the app is background loading a ton of graphics; some are still loading as you're scrolling. After about 10 seconds the images are cached and moving up and down the page is smooth. My N2 behaves exactly the same way.
I hope you and all those so deathly miserable plan on returning their N3's.
BarryH_GEG said:
I'm too lazy to shoot a video and I only viewed the first of the videos you posted. In it, you played with the Play Store. At first launch I got the same effect you did because the app is background loading a ton of graphics; some are still loading as you're scrolling. After about 10 seconds the images are cached and moving up and down the page is smooth. My N2 behaves exactly the same way.
I hope you and all those so deathly miserable plan on returning their N3's.
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I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.
You're comparing it with devices from other platforms. In that case, wouldn't it be more accurate to refer to android and Google in your comments instead of note3 and samsung ?
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Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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I agree. ios is all about a pretty experience (not they they have succeeded with ios 7). Pretty is not necessarily a bad thing but that is the prime focus for Sir Ive et al. That said, it is still a little surprising that a processor of the power of SD800 isn't always smooth!
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I dont know about you guys. But i can pretty much survive with the scroll even with "Power Saving" on
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lynkchiz said:
I dont know about you guys. But i can pretty much survive with the scroll even with "Power Saving" on
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Me too. I can also survive if my Note 3 falls on the ground and breaks in five. Although, i might cry.
That's not the point. And the point is, this a brand new top of the line Android, that costed me 700€, and you have 3 years old iSomething with better scrolling and touch experience. It annoys me, but i can survive yeh.
Unfortunately i don't think there's an easy fix for this. I have used Android since 2009 and i haven't seen one without this "problem" and i have used all the Galaxy S line.
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Me too. I can also survive if my Note 3 falls on the ground and breaks in five. Although, i might cry.
That's not the point. And the point is, this a brand new top of the line Android, that costed me 700€, and you have 3 years old iSomething with better scrolling and touch experience. It annoys me, but i can survive yeh.
Unfortunately i don't think there's an easy fix for this. I have used Android since 2009 and i haven't seen one without this "problem" and i have used all the Galaxy S line.
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The phone is €700. The platform it runs on is free and open source (which has its advantages and disadvantages). I think you fell into the same boat as OP of confusing between the two. If it wasn't free, mind you, you'd be paying much more than 700€ as samsung would've transferred the cost licensing the OS to the end user (one of the many advantages). Android has a hundred more advantages over IOS, which you can easily Google, but I doubt you'll find "Android is more fluid than ios" listed as one of them, even in the most stingent android fan sites. Of course the overlay that samsung and other OEMs put on top of android doesn't help in that regard either.
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lynkchiz said:
Just get the iphone 5 or 5s if a "buttery smooth" scrolling is your primary requirement. Im content with my note 3's scrolling and i came from an S3, i bought this phone to be a tool and to help me with everyday tasks. So the scrolling performance if its smooth or not isnt any of my concern.
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Thanks for the recommendation. If you look at the videos in my original post, you will see that I already have an iPhone 5. But that's beside the point. I'd like to know why we are in a position where consumers are expected to choose between smoothness and low latency, OR features and functionality. I was expecting the Note 3 to deliver both, and I simply fail to accept they're mutually exclusive.
When the every day tasks are jittery and janky, the user experience becomes jarring (every day).
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Ignore. Double post.
scott.deagan said:
I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.
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Gotta disagree here, the App Store on my iPhone 5 is horrid the first time it loads? Sometimes taking
scott.deagan said:
Thanks for the recommendation. If you look at the videos in my original post, you will see that I already have an iPhone 5. But that's beside the point. I'd like to know why we are in a position where consumers are expected to choose between smoothness and low latency, OR features and functionality. I was expecting the Note 3 to deliver both, and I simply fail to accept they're mutually exclusive.
When the every day tasks are jittery and janky, the user experience becomes jarring (every day).
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You can read this article, has some interesting insight as to why Android is not as smooth as say iOS is. I don't own this device yet, but I've been using the HTC One which is the smoothest android experience I've had to date. It's still not as smooth as my wife's iPhone but it's approaching it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-can-never-be-as-smooth-as-iOS-myth-busted_id26252
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The phone is €700. The platform it runs on is free and open source (which has its advantages and disadvantages). I think you fell into the same boat as OP of confusing between the two. If it wasn't free, mind you, you'd be paying much more than 700€ as samsung would've transferred the cost licensing the OS to the end user (one of the many advantages). Android has a hundred more advantages over IOS, which you can easily Google, but I doubt you'll find "Android is more fluid than ios" listed as one of them, even in the most stingent android fan sites.
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I'm not confused at all, and i agree with you about the advantages of Android. I'm perfectly aware of that, that's why i bought one, and i have had many others, instead of an iOS device.
I will say it again, i have bought a Note 3 that costs about the same as an iPhone in my country. And that's because i think the Note is way better for my needs!
But this isn't a fight to see what OS is better, or what phone, i don't want to go there at all. I don't care about that. I'm just talking about a specific issue that bothers me with my phone, and that i have experience in my 4+ years experience with Android.
Every one wants more and better, i'm no different. Apparently some ppl don't care about this issue, others don't even see it, but i do and i would like it to be a little better. Don't see what the problem is here.
Your suggestion is, i need to accept it because this how Android works? I should be satisfied with that, because this is a chronicle issue? C'mon now, i will never be satisfied with anything ever! I will always want more. That's my nature.
Ok, enough.
tWoBrO said:
Your suggestion is, i need to accept it because this how Android works? I should be satisfied with that, because this is a chronicle issue? C'mon now, i will never be satisfied with anything ever! I will always want more. That's my nature.
Ok, enough.
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Of course, I feel the same way exactly. I want the best of both worlds. This is the nature of all human beings. Without it, civilization itself wouldn't have existed
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I think Android will never be at scrolling as IOS,for two reasons:
1-Its based on Java and thats one slow animal,I told this in this same forum when I first got my Note one almost 2 years ago,and recieved unconvincing answers.
2-While scrolling, IOS stops all and every background processing meanwhile Android keeps tens of them running .
scott.deagan said:
I cannot return it, contrary to the UK's consumer protection legislation. For some reason, Phones4U believe that the UK legislation (14 day return policy) does not apply to the handsets it sells. Instead, I'm selling mine on Gumtree for £400 (which is £220 less than I bought it for). I should have known better and waited for a demo unit in the store so I could see how it performed instead of relying on reviews.
In regards to the Play Store video that you watched, that's an example of poorly implemented lazy loading. No other mobile platform on the market suffers from the same performance issue when executing lazy loaded listviews. Here's an example from another platform (I shot the video at 60FPS, unfortunately YouTube seems to have dropped the frame-rate when transcoding):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbAFj75uH8
The above example is running on inferior hardware, yet it so much smoother and fluid. I understand that it's not exactly a like-for-like comparison, but it still leaves me dumbfounded that no-one at Samsung seem to care about user-experience.
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hagba said:
I think Android will never be at scrolling as IOS,for two reasons:
1-Its based on Java and thats one slow animal,I told this in this same forum when I first got my Note one almost 2 years ago,and recieved unconvincing answers.
2-While scrolling, IOS stops all and every background processing meanwhile Android keeps tens of them running .
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I'm not the most informed, but I believe that Java has drastically improved in speed (JIT and I think you can use JNI). Also, 2 seems to be from Munn's piece (which is inaccurate).

Nexus 6 or iPhone 6 plus..Which one to choose/buy?

Last year by mistakenly I bought Galaxy S5, which processor was not Qualcom snapdragon version. It was Samsung own Exynos variant.
That's why ustom roms like- CM/Aosp, I've not yet used or experienced..
On this point, I want to buy Nexus 6 to enjoy all facilities from Developers..
On the other hand, I heard iPhone 6 plus is a good phone. Larger display, Camera quality, Fingerprint sensor .etc haven't used yet, as I used iPhone 4s before.. And I've seen, iPhone users always feel proud themselves to have/use an iphone..
So please guys, Tell me which device should I buy.. I'm stuck here to choose which device?
Anybody will suggest please.
Nexus 6 latest update on time....lot of dev support ,large ,pure android,fast and u know ryt iPhone suck ...if u want to waste money on something with less spec d bends easily it ur wish.....and yeah u will be highly over priced for hardware ....d yeah u got to pay for lot of apps which are free in android...why care about others u are going to use phone not them lol ...get nexus 6 of note 4
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If I were you, I will choose Nexus 6 because I can get android apps from play store, amazon appstore, or any others I like.
Uh, the Nexus 6 is 6" 2560x1440 493 ppi, the iPhone 6 plus is only 5.5" 1920x1080 401 ppi..... The Nexus 6 has the larger display, even though they're almost identical in size. The Nexus 6 is 2mm bigger, but has 18% more screensize than the i6 Plus.
But really, the 3GB RAM on the N6 vs the 1GB on the i6 Plus is enough of a deal breaker by itself... Even if you ignore all the other 2012 level hardware on the iPhone 6 Plus. It's a reskinned Note 2.
Go for the Nexus.
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Well i depends on your preferences.
Masum56k said:
Anybody will suggest please.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179 ask here.
You will find tonnes of stuff on this. Well on one hand apple says beyond retina display human eye can not define anymore clarity. Its like the end of our looking capacity. Well Apple Vs NEXUS battle can never be WON. well if you want to have a cutting edge techno and more of customization by using xda then go for nexus. Well nexus is pretty powerful device. if you want a calm detail upto maximum clarity then go for apple. they got some of best camera and no log whatsoever. well lag is also not prob with nexus though. but still android as per me is far better.
There are 3 threads already established that are devoted to discussions about devices, please read, and if necessary, repost your question in one of these threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
There are also several other discussion threads that you probably should review to help you. They are What phone do you wish you had? or
The Worst Android Device That You've Ever Had & Why or even this place that talks about The best phone you ever owned.
I will close this so you can check those threads out.

Switching back to Android

I'm looking at going back to Android for my phone. The last Android phone I had was the HTC EVO. It has been that long.
I currently have a nexus player and nvidia shield tablet. So I have still been using android just not as my phone.
So the question is which phone is the best to go with? The s7 edge, nexus 6p or one plus 3.
I would like to stick with 5.5-5.7 screen and ability to do VR and stream games via moonlight.
So any advise?
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Hmm... I have a galaxy s6 and love it. I would recommend nexus or galaxy.
Something important is that DO NOT buy a cheap brand! The specs might look good but the performance is terrible
skoglundsimon99 said:
Hmm... I have a galaxy s6 and love it. I would recommend nexus or galaxy.
Something important is that DO NOT buy a cheap brand! The specs might look good but the performance is terrible
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Are you referring to the One Plus?
Doesn't it take forever to get Android updates on the Galaxy?
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Well, it's hard to say. It depends completly how you want to use your device
Its true Samsung uses a lot if time on updates expecially if you are outside us and UK. But Samsung dedicates itself to the update trying to make it as stable as possible before releasing
I have never had that as a problem, the updates are very minor. Even from Lollipop to Marshmallow I saw very few changes. I would recommend you to do a Google search on the best android phones!
I'm not sure what I feel about nexus, on one hand Google is very good at quality, but on the other hand they are fighting strongly against root etc. So I gotta feeling it's only getting harder and harder to customize the phone
There's a dedicated thread for such questions here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
Many opinions to be had there, so I'll close this thread. :good:

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