possible brick? :'( - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

i downloaded the AT&T jellybean update, while updating my screen went black and now no light comes one when plugged in and i hold the power
button and nothing happens. please help!!!!!!!!!!! but when i plug it into my pc it recognizes the device wants me to download the drivers for QHSUSB_DLOAD

This is why we advice not to take otas with supercid

a box of kittens said:
This is why we advice not to take otas with supercid
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i used the 2.20 RUU. i read somewhere that my phone is soft bricked

Megadoug13 said:
i used the 2.20 RUU. i read somewhere that my phone is soft bricked
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Not if you were on 2.20 before getting to QHUSB_DLOAD. If that's the case, get ready to pay $65 for jtag.

iElvis said:
Not if you were on 2.20 before getting to QHUSB_DLOAD. If that's the case, get ready to pay $65 for jtag.
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i read somewhere that is soft bricked... i was doing an ota update. this sucks i think i may be done with android phones :'(

Megadoug13 said:
i read somewhere that is soft bricked... i was doing an ota update. this sucks i think i may be done with android phones :'(
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Close the door on the way on out

Megadoug13 said:
i read somewhere that is soft bricked... i was doing an ota update. this sucks i think i may be done with android phones :'(
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Ya it seems you have had problems since day one with even the simplest tasks. If you are determined its really easy to learn you just have to read up and follow instructions...but hey to each his own...
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Why would you update when we have jellybean already?!
To get at&ts bloat?
Why not wait for a custom ROM based off of it?
That phone didn't know what was coming... Poor phone
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Lol you made thread couple hrs ago asking how to install this and didn't listen and then make this one cause of brick ...srry man its just kinda ridiculous as this is your 3rd thread in less than 6hrs dealing with your ota screwup
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I just stopped reading after the 10 exclamation points and knew what was going to happen in the comments. Lol this funny
-Sugardaddy Duncan

Yes I know its my fault. I'm sorry for spamming and sorry for waisting everyones time. I just need to know how to get out of qhsusb_dload mode
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You don't.. SuperCID + OTA = brick.
No not a soft brick. A soft brick is what happens while you are downgrading hboot.
Sent from my Nexus 4

Megadoug13 said:
i read somewhere that is soft bricked... i was doing an ota update. this sucks i think i may be done with android phones :'(
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I knew the AT&T ota would be good for something
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Megadoug13 said:
i downloaded the AT&T jellybean update, while updating my screen went black and now no light comes one when plugged in and i hold the power
button and nothing happens. please help!!!!!!!!!!! but when i plug it into my pc it recognizes the device wants me to download the drivers for QHSUSB_DLOAD
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qhsusb_dload. ugly.....
try these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjGTP-AmEtA

jtag is really my last option but i think i have no choice but i have read that you can possibly fix the phone by getting it out of qhsusb_dload mode i just need to find the drivers for it...

Megadoug13 said:
jtag is really my last option but i think i have no choice but i have read that you can possibly fix the phone by getting it out of qhsusb_dload mode i just need to find the drivers for it...
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Not if you were on 2.20
Sent from my VENOMized HoxL

And to think if you would have waited a few hours scrosler posted the stock att jb update as a flashable rom lol
Sent from my One X using Tapatalk 2

It doesnt matter. If you read his post history you would see he doesn't have patience and he doesn't read
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Megadoug13 said:
jtag is really my last option but i think i have no choice but i have read that you can possibly fix the phone by getting it out of qhsusb_dload mode i just need to find the drivers for it...
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And where did you read this at.. Because you can't on 2.20 firmware or higher
Sent from my Nexus 4

my hboot was at 1.09 and i did and ruu with 2.20 and it was fine.... as soon as i did the system update it was working and then near the end of the update my phone just went to a black screen

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[Q] Bricked HOX after flashing JellyBean.

Hi, I'm new to this forum, and unfortunately after a week of having my HOX, and it broke, after unlock and try many roms without any I liked, I found a call icecold jellybean in this forum, and after installation my phone is not on again, nothing, no HBOOT, no charge, no LED lights, nothing, totally dead, I'm pretty sure that it is junk, I'll have to buy a new one, but if anyone knows any solution hear suggestions, I am of Costa Rica, so the warranty does not work here HTC ... Here there is no technical service for HTC ..:crying:
Thanks for any help you can give me ..
Greetings ..
For any help, you can write to my emaill: [email protected]
I installed this room http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804223
You flashed a rom for the international one x... If you have the S4 version, you now most probably have a paper weight.
qwertyaas said:
You flashed a rom for the international one x... If you have the S4 version, you now most probably have a paper weight.
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from the link is posted its AOKP for the XL the op did not provide lots of details though
what recovery etc etc
Oh sorry, when I Googled it before I saw the link it led me to the One X forums.
Edit: He linked AOKP yet said he flashed Icecold Jelly which is a One X rom.
qwertyaas said:
Oh sorry, when I Googled it before I saw the link it led me to the One X forums.
Edit: He linked AOKP yet said he flashed Icecold Jelly which is a One X rom.
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yes seen that too something is not adding up sounds like the OP did flash the wrong rom
chrisglanza said:
after installation my phone is not on again, nothing, no HBOOT, no charge, no LED lights, nothing, totally dead,
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These are classic symptoms of flashing a ROM for the International One X on the One XL. When you do that, you overwrite part of the boot partition for the phone so it cannot boot up.
This is potentially fixable if you have access to Linux computer and know what you're doing.
I have CWM, although in this particular installation I suggested installing via teamviewer will say yes, and restart the recovery, install normal success, and to give restart did not turn over, my phone is an HTC one X from at&t , my CID is 111111, reading forums I saw it was the supercid and accepted any rom ..
if I have a computer with linux, I can fix it?:laugh:
... HTC One X and xl are completely different devices. It's like flashing a Vivid rom on your XL.
To be honest I have many roms on my computer, I download that the link the AOKP jellybean, the download forum HOX at&t rogers telstar, then it is assumed if I should serve, but not if it was by mistake upload another roms that I have saved, I have several of the international HOX because I thought I worked, but then I found out that no, then do not know what could have happened
chrisglanza said:
I have CWM, although in this particular installation I suggested installing via teamviewer will say yes, and restart the recovery, install normal success, and to give restart did not turn over, my phone is an HTC one X from at&t , my CID is 111111, reading forums I saw it was the supercid and accepted any rom ..
if I have a computer with linux, I can fix it?:laugh:
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To be honest I have many roms on my computer, I download that the link the AOKP jellybean, the download forum HOX at&t rogers telstar, then it is assumed if I should serve, but not if it was by mistake upload another roms that I have saved, I have several of the international HOX because I thought I worked, but then I found out that no, then do not know what could have happened
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no chance in hell that the aokp meant for the ONE XL hard bricked you no chance ... and your running CWM should be running teamwins recovery
So how I can fix it?
Yeaaa bro if your phone would even turn on you MAY have a chance. But if there is nothing what so ever except your reflection, then yea you've rendered it useless
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I'll keep waiting if anyone gives a solution, fix it with linux sounded interesting but can not find information. And until now my phone does nothing, is totally dead, and logically if there are no lights to flash it and connect it somehow.
chrisglanza said:
if I have a computer with linux, I can fix it?:laugh:
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Caution: I have not done this myself and do not vouch for it. But here's the explanation I've seen before:
beaups said:
when the device is bricked (qhusb mode), after pushing and holding power for ~10 seconds - in linux shortly thereafter all of the partitions will enumerate and expose themselves to linux for about 5 seconds (you'll see sdX1, sdX3, sdX8, about 30 partitions alltogether). During that quick 5 seconds you can DD whatever you feel like back to those partitions.
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This is how I've recovered bricks. Corrupt hboot --> Brick device. DD back correct hboot while in this mode --> unbricked
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Caution: I have not done this myself and do not vouch for it. But here's the explanation I've seen before:
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That's some mission impossible shiz right there.. beaups is the man
Sent from my Nocturnal Evita
Just to be clear, he flashed a HOXL rom on a HOX (International)?
Misterowl said:
Just to be clear, he flashed a HOXL rom on a HOX (International)?
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No, the other way 'round. He's got an AT&T HOXL per an earlier post.
I'm not sure that you install, but my phone is an XL, is supposed to install AOKP XL JB
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No, the other way 'round. He's got an AT&T HOXL per an earlier post.
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I'm not sure that you install, but my phone is an XL, is supposed to install AOKP XL JB
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You mentioned "icecoldjelly" in the first post. That's a ROM for the international version. If you flashed that at any point, that's your problem.

Help me please HTC One x Dead

Hi I have a OX AT&T. I followed a tutorial yesterday. will install the recovery and achieve all good .. after the wipes and install the rom .. when I did reboot. is to become the cel off. no LED light or charge or anything I read you had to let him connected all night and nothing ..
Now the creator of the tutorial said that was only for international HTC and not for at&t.
someone please help me with my phone. I was only 3 days with my new phone and this happens to me :crying:
If you flashed a international ROM , I'm pretty sure that bricks your phone.
You may be out of luck.
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More specific details if you want to have any chance of getting any useful help at this point.
Firmware, hboot, what recovery you flashed what Rom you flashed ect..etc...
Chances are you have a paperweight but at least it looks good
Sent from my HTC One XL
Press and hold power button w. Pointer finger, grasping width of the phone with thumb and remaining fingers. Sling hand over shoulder with high rate of velocity, releasing power button and thumb when parallel with line of sight. Rotate body 180 degrees, don't ever look back.
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954wrecker said:
More specific details if you want to have any chance of getting any useful help at this point.
Firmware, hboot, what recovery you flashed what Rom you flashed ect..etc...
Chances are you have a paperweight but at least it looks good
Sent from my HTC One XL
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Thanks for the quick reply.
when I connect the phone with the PC recognizes this name: Qhsusb_dload
the rom that i wasinstall is Slim Beam
I do not know what is HBOOT
and had the ICS 4.0.3
por favor ayudar..
yo no se saber que hacer :crying:
Don't cry it is just a phone or in your case a fancy paperweight
Sent from my HTC One XL
There's an unbricking Evita thread in the general section. Give it a try.
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954wrecker said:
Don't cry it is just a phone or in your case a fancy paperweight
Sent from my HTC One XL
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then there is no way to fix it???
Luis060 said:
then there is no way to fix it???
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Not yet. there is a thread in general called unbricking evita you can try the stuff they have listed there but it requires a basic knowledge of linux
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If he just got it, he's got 2.20, which means it's a brick.
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Early new years resolution so no more sarcastic comments. My condolences for another phone down due to a hasty owner and a bad naming strategy from htc.
Sent from my HTC One XL
Come on guys he just lost money ...and I'm pretty sure if he ad his phone on android 4.03 he had lower than 2.20 ..not all phones come with 2.20.... So head over to the unbricking thread in the general section and ask absolutely grim for help
omario8484 said:
Come on guys he just lost money ...and I'm pretty sure if he ad his phone on android 4.03 he had lower than 2.20 ..not all phones come with 2.20.... So head over to the unbricking thread in the general section and ask absolutely grim for help
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Ye mi phone was in 4.0.3
I do not understand what is 2.02? so if mi phone had 2.20 i can fix it?
Luis060 said:
Ye mi phone was in 4.0.3
I do not understand what is 2.02? so if mi phone had 2.20 i can fix it?
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It's the One XL firmware number. If you were on the most recent version, 2.20, there is no current fix for your predicament. If you were on anything earlier, you may be able to unbrick using the method in the Unbricking Evita thread.
If he had an att one x and it was 4.03 it has to be lower than 2.20 the 4.04 update came with 2.20
You could always try claiming you took one of their ota's and it killed the phone. Did that to sprint and got free replacement.
junpei1337 said:
You could always try claiming you took one of their ota's and it killed the phone. Did that to sprint and got free replacement.
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Sorry buddy we don't condone fraud here leave now while you have a little bit of dignity
omario8484 said:
Sorry buddy we don't condone fraud here leave now while you have a little bit of dignity
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No need for hostility. I have seen literally hundreds of posts claiming the same thing. If I did break any actual rule I'm sorry. But you don't need to approach people like that. I was just trying to help the guy out instead of giving him crap like some of the others. And until you posted that I was on my way out. So now I bid you farewell
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No need for hostility. I have seen literally hundreds of posts claiming the same thing. If I did break any actual rule I'm sorry. But you don't need to approach people like that. I was just trying to help the guy out instead of giving him crap like some of the others. And until you posted that I was on my way out. So now I bid you farewell
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I do because people like make us pay more ..so yes leave I'm the one helping him at xda we help people get out of their situations by teaching...not telling then to commit insurance fruad

[Q] HELP: After last OTA update - bricked!

My phone is almost bricked after todays last update.
I can enter the settings (after I slide down the menu from the top) and that's it. There is NO WAY to access the home menu or start panel - also, my HTC One S was pretty warm.
I've restarted the phone for 15-20 times but no effect...
It's branded (T-Mobile) phone, rooted and some of the bloatware was removed (nothing too important, tunel radio, soundhound, FB and games)...
Is there any chance that this is possible to repair?
dr.Nathaniel said:
My phone is almost bricked after todays last update.
I can enter the settings (after I slide down the menu from the top) and that's it. There is NO WAY to access the home menu or start panel - also, my HTC One S was pretty warm.
I've restarted the phone for 15-20 times but no effect...
It's branded (T-Mobile) phone, rooted and some of the bloatware was removed (nothing to important, tunel radio, soundhound, FB and games)...
Is there any chance that this is possible to repair?
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Damn you! Your phone isn't even bricked it's so annoying when people say their phone is bricked when it still lives! My phone is completely dead and it won't turn on! THAT IS A BRICK! Now boot into hboot and run a stock ruu. You should be fine.
sharpinator said:
Damn you! Your phone isn't even bricked it's so annoying when people say their phone is bricked when it still lives! My phone is completely dead and it won't turn on! THAT IS A BRICK! Now boot into hboot and run a stock ruu. You should be fine.
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Sorry :cyclops:
"Now boot into hboot and run a stock ruu. You should be fine"
And how am I gonna do that? Is there some thread?
dr.Nathaniel said:
Sorry :cyclops:
"Now boot into hboot and run a stock ruu. You should be fine"
And how am I gonna do that? Is there some thread?
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Google is you're friend..
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Spastic909 said:
Google is you're friend..
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ok, hboot is bootloader but I have one more question: is stock ruu on my phone or do I have to download it from somewhere and put it in my phone?
dr.Nathaniel said:
ok, hboot is bootloader but I have one more question: is stock ruu on my phone or do I have to download it from somewhere and put it in my phone?
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You have to find the file there is a post on this forum called stock roms ville villec2 just pick the right one for you.
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decievedthought said:
You have to find the file there is a post on this forum called stock roms ville villec2 just pick the right one for you.
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Thanks!
You can lock this topic, problem solved!

AT&T HTC One X OTA Update bricked.

My phone was fine yesterday was running Scottsclean rom for months just fine. I Flashed 2.20 RUU and everything was fine.
I then allowed it to OTA Update and after returning to the phone, I believe its bricked does not light up when plugged in, Nor does it enter the bootloader. I do believe its bricked cause after holding Volume down and power it just enters Download mode.
Any help would be appreciated.
If you had supercid and s-on there is nothing we can do for you. You will need to send your phone away for a jtag repair (google mobiletechvideos)
Sent from my VENOMized HoxL
area51avenger said:
If you had supercid and s-on there is nothing we can do for you. You will need to send your phone away for a jtag repair (google mobiletechvideos)
Sent from my VENOMized HoxL
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Believe my phones still in warranty. I did successfully re-flash it to 2.20 VIA RUU and relock before attempting to ATO update.
Do you think ill be fine to take it to att ?
That's too bad. ota keeper seems to be hit and miss. S-off folks seem to be OK when they ota. Theoretically you did everything right by RUU. I'd plug it into a wall mount and make sure it has a full charge then try getting it to boot into bootloader. Redpoint put a thread up a public service announcement with statement to this its in the stickies.
Sent from my HOX w/CM10.1 4.2.2 s-off
viprk24 said:
Believe my phones still in warranty. I did successfully re-flash it to 2.20 VIA RUU and relock before attempting to ATO update.
Do you think ill be fine to take it to att ?
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That's fraud...
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tsav87 said:
That's fraud...
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Fraud? The cause was the OTA update
You voided your warranty when you unlocked your bootloader...
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It says "may" void all or parts of you warranty. Its not fraud unless you lie about it.
Sent from my HOX w/CM10.1 4.2.2 s-off
I like this guy already!
tsav87 said:
You voided your warranty when you unlocked your bootloader...
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In many countries unlocking the boot loader can not void a warranty. Just like installing linux on a computer you bought won't void it. The manufaturer can't just invent escape clauses for when they will or won't cover faulty workmanship. It is like those little stickers that cover some key screw on electronics with "void if broken" are not worth the paper they are printed on.
Workmanship? AT&T blocked bootloader unlocking because of people messing up their phones. This person used an exploit to unlock and root his phone and now wants AT&T to fix the mistake he made by reading half the instructions
Sent from my VENOMized HoxL
The man has a point that's just a disclaimer for them to deny but ultimately outs up to who you are warranting it through via service provider our HTC. And I know many have gotten there device warranted that were unlocked. All were through AT&T though.
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viprk24 said:
Believe my phones still in warranty. I did successfully re-flash it to 2.20 VIA RUU and relock before attempting to ATO update.
Do you think ill be fine to take it to att ?
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I would take it in.. they won't check to to see if it's unlocked... Besides like you said it won't even come on . All you have to say is that you downloaded the update and afterwards it froze up and bricked(obviously you know what you did but they won't) I've been on a couple other threads with HTC one x+ and this seemed to work gl it's worth the try if you think about it. Just don't mention anything like you know about root or flashing anything for that matter lol if they ask about HTCdev unlock say it must be the previous owner lmao
I did this with my inspire awhile back when it first came out and I bricked it second day lmao. Got a new one same day haha stupid att haha
Sent from my Venomized Elemental Evita
Am I missing something here? I thought the purpose of s off was so you could RUU back to older firmwares?
Ie I had 2.4 boot and was able to go back to 1.xx hboot on my one XL. Then I did the Telstra OTA updates back to jellybean and the higher hboot.
same thing happened to me... but this community hates my everlasting guts so they were jerks to me about it but just send it into jtag repair.... its like $60 to $100 to have repaired... ill see all of you soon
Megadoug13 said:
same thing happened to me... but this community hates my everlasting guts so they were jerks to me about it but just send it into jtag repair.... its like $60 to $100 to have repaired... ill see all of you soon
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We don't hate you Doug you just ask a lot of questions without searching first. All of your questions were about things that had been asked and answered before.
Sent from my VENOMized HoxL
Megadoug13 said:
same thing happened to me... but this community hates my everlasting guts so they were jerks to me about it but just send it into jtag repair.... its like $60 to $100 to have repaired... ill see all of you soon
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Well just glad you got phn working, did you end up sending it in and how was your experience with that process
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DESERT.TECH said:
Well just glad you got phn working, did you end up sending it in and how was your experience with that process
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well i didnt quite get there yet, i have to wait a little bit to get the money but ive read that its a great experience and that it takes about a week for repair, right now im using my girlfriends cousins windows phone 7.5.... not really liking it so much lol
s-off
I have a stock ATT OneX 2.20 rooted with TWRP and SuperCid. I've had no luck flashing custom roms so I'm still stock ICS. I've tried the instructions here for turning s-off but no luck. I get through the entire process but still have s-on. Can anyone point me toward better instructions or method of s-off for this phone so I can ota to JB?
Thanks in advance.
Anyone got any idea whether HTC one X(At&t) could be jatgged using USB cable (On riffbox official site they've mentioned that some HTC devices could be JTAGGED using usb, but one x isn't listed. I've got a RIFF BOX JATG, but while i was soldering the RTCK solder pad came off. I wasn't able to figure whether if there's any other place on board where i can solder RTCK cable( Please help if anyone of you has got any idea?)

[Q] Unroot & Return to stock?

How do I un-root my AT&T HTC One X & return it to stock and all of that stuff (Return to factory condition essentially).
Do some reading. This question has been answered countless times.
Sent from my Evita
timmaaa said:
Do some reading. This question has been answered countless times.
Sent from my Evita
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Beat me to it.
I just did a search and found a few threads that talk about it.
Im seeing alot of tutorials but they all seem to be for the international versions
Search within this forum -_- how did you root if you can't figure out the search feature?
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Well i managed to get back to stock with RUU with 2.10, was fine and working, then i RUU'ed 3.18 and now the phone wont even turn on -_-
noahk11 said:
Well i managed to get back to stock with RUU with 2.10, was fine and working, then i RUU'ed 3.18 and now the phone wont even turn on -_-
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dang what did u do?
JayDream said:
dang what did u do?
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He bricked it. SuperCID and jb update = brick. Thats yhe reason you search and read BEFORE flashing. Just because u find a file don't mean it should be flashed carelessly. and just here in q-a there has to be a easy 15-20 threads on the 3.17/3.18 updates bricking devices
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noahk11 said:
Well i managed to get back to stock with RUU with 2.10, was fine and working, then i RUU'ed 3.18 and now the phone wont even turn on -_-
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Bricked.. jtag repair or send to HTC
For new motherboard.
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noahk11 said:
Well i managed to get back to stock with RUU with 2.10, was fine and working, then i RUU'ed 3.18 and now the phone wont even turn on -_-
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well on a positive not it is now ready to be returned to HTC....
I am an intl One X user but one of my mates has the ATT One X. He upgraded to JB but now he wants to root but seeing here there is no root exploits so far for JB. Can he return to ICS in anyway and then root?
There are root exploits for JB.
Sent from my Evita
yash777 said:
I am an intl One X user but one of my mates has the ATT One X. He upgraded to JB but now he wants to root but seeing here there is no root exploits so far for JB. Can he return to ICS in anyway and then root?
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Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283760
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