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I've tried various different ROM images (including the excellent Dr.Gonzo), and I have this problem with all of them.
When I'm using the phone either with the keyboard in or out, the screen just switches off randomly. If I wait a few seconds (possibly the backlight timer length), then it comes back. Mostly... Othertimes I have to wait a lot longer, but it does always come back.
A reboot sometimes fixes it, but not always - does anything survive a reboot or battery removal?
Anybody else seen anything like this? I have seen a lot of threads about the screen staying on, but not off.
Of course, it could be a hardware fault, but because it's intermittent, it's hard to prove.
Mike
same problem
If you shake the phone can you re-produce this problem? I've never not heard of this being affected by software - you might also want to ensure you're not overclocking it.
Nothing is removed when you do a battery removal or reboot, ensure your connections are all tight and make sure the SIM pins are all making contact and the SIM door closes, apart from that it sounds like a possible bad LCD ribbon.
Shaking it doesn't reproduce the problem.
Once the phone has started doing this, it happens everytime you press a key.
Seems more like a memory leak to me since it always seems to happen after a while of web browsing/email use.
So actually, it looks like it might be a hardware fault.
I think it happens when the device gets warm. After a few minutes with the screen on, keyboard lit up, wifi on, the phone gets pretty warm and that's when the screen seems to go black. Leave to cool and all returns to normal.
Mike
Same issue here, but the screen does not acually go black/blank it just seems that the screen backlight does not turn back on from a standby like state, the phone itself functions but just not able to see whats going on on the screen.
(keyboard lights work fine and come on when expected)
Not sure about the heat theory as it happens (to me) most often right after a call, anything over 30-50 seconds and the backlight problem occurs, when it decides to work again is a matter of luck.
As said before because it's intermittent, it's very hard to prove.
Has anyone who has had this issue, fixed it with a hard reset ?
Very strange ... but also getting very annoying now!
i got the same thing. took it back to warranty and they said nothing's wrong with the phone but i still get this.
I experience the same problems.. it happens pretty random, but every time when you hit a key. I have set all timers to never but the problem is still there.
Running Gonzo 1.1 at the moment, upgraded from guava.. but that didn't solve the problem.
It is getting so annoying now that I am about to throw the s710 in the dustbin
I have had the same problem!
I have turn it back to my provider and no problem now.
i have the same problem with my VOX
apparently, i can still receive phone calls, and do whatever i want with the phone,
but the screen just stays black, its like if you have unplugged your monitor
since i dont have a htc center in my town or anywhere else nearby.
does anyone know a way on how to open the phone, change what need to be changed and correct the problem? im all up for testing if that would resolve this annoying problem :s
cheers everyone
there is a dismantling manual somewhere in this forum. search.
i don't think taking it apart would help you because this is not a physical fault that you can locate.
and i learned that mcel is the retail seller of vox in mozambique. they should be able to help you with service. else just send a mail to htc support and they will guide you.
yes, mcel are the retail sellers, but i tried to go there, and there are no specialists on htc's there,
the thing is, i didnt bought my htc from them, so i can't go there and change for another one
but tks anyway
no problem
but do try to contact htc support by email. they might suggest a way.
I'm having exactly the same weird problem and I think I found some pattern when it occurs. Well, the thing is that in the bright day or in a room with lots of light it works just fine. In the darker conditions… well… not so fine. It seems to me that this screen blackout happens whenever the keyboard light is on and screen changes to full brightness (in the dark, because of the light sensor). In the daylight, keyboard light doesn't turn itself on, so s710 works. I don't know much but this definitely isn't some bad contact problem. Maybe some battery problem, but I doubt it since I can receive phone call in this condition. This started to happen after I flashed this Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM from HTC (I have original S710). Flashing Dr.Gonzo's later on didn't bring any luck either. I believe that some power control SW is the main culprit. I've read that many people mention some Tornado Power Control app. Does anybody know can this application be permanently disabled or removed?
are you trying to say that by desabling the light sensor, the problem might go away?
i would also like to know if it possible to have the baklight on the lowest possible brightness forever, because it seems, on a low brightness the problem might go away
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I'm having exactly the same weird problem and I think I found some pattern when it occurs. Well, the thing is that in the bright day or in a room with lots of light it works just fine. In the darker conditions… well… not so fine. It seems to me that this screen blackout happens whenever the keyboard light is on and screen changes to full brightness (in the dark, because of the light sensor). In the daylight, keyboard light doesn't turn itself on, so s710 works. I don't know much but this definitely isn't some bad contact problem. Maybe some battery problem, but I doubt it since I can receive phone call in this condition. This started to happen after I flashed this Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM from HTC (I have original S710). Flashing Dr.Gonzo's later on didn't bring any luck either. I believe that some power control SW is the main culprit. I've read that many people mention some Tornado Power Control app. Does anybody know can this application be permanently disabled or removed?
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I also have this problem with the lightsensor turned off. And also at (as it seems) random moments.
well, even with the light sensor turned off, the problem persisted.
i got my phone to a repair shop of htc's, and they figured out the problem
my phone is now 100% thankfully, the repair man told that the problem was because of bad or malfunctioned circuits, he exchanged them with new ones, and the problem went away,
dont know wich circuits exactly, and he didnt want to tell me, but i suggest anyone having the same problem to try and do the same
probably its a hardware malfunction with these VOX,
its possible since so many times before i've heard about malfunctioned pieces coming out in large quantities for sale.
anyways, cheers everyone, and good luck Portugal in EURO!
I have the same problem. I just noticed that it usually happens when the phone is warm, so if you need to do something on my phone just... take some ice from fridge and put it on back of your mobile. I cant see any more solutions.
Please someone help us!
Update. Problem Solved
Just thought I'd update this thread I started.
I sent the phone back to my dealer (Grapevine in Poole,UK).
A week later, I got a brand new one back from the HTC repair centre.
So far, so good. Looks like the problem's solved.
Mike
Sam problem here,
i called with HTC and they sent them to there repair centre.
Hi all, my O3D is shuting down randomly each and every day for like 4-5 times. Dont know why, dont know hot, just when I press power button no picture on screen and after few seconds LG logo pops up. Its running on v21e stock rooted with megatrone. Also try to wipe dalwik, cache and battery stats after instaling ROM Manager and still the same, right now it shuts down for two times in 10 minutes. Could be problem that I root phone after did install few apps from market.What to do, read many posts and threads regarding this problem and no help for me.
Thanks.
it could be a posibility about some programmes
i had the same problem and i tried to load the same baseband again (kdz files) , then it stopped rebooting
No, just did reinstall v21e and still the same. Also did factory data reset few times and no help my O3D just keeps shuting down without any reason. Anyone has some suggestion its really stupid to use phone this way.
I had this problem on froyo. In advanced wifi settings make sure the wifi sleep policy is set to "when screen turns off"
If you have it on "never " the CPU gets overheated or something. I had been rebooting Every hour since changed it to "never " but when I turned it back the reboots stopped
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It was already set to 'when screen turns off' and I did not change anything. Today only two shut downs since this morning.
Do a clean installation Kdz . Don't change anything and see if it reboots. If it does you must have some sort if corrupted kdz file
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Tried cleaning the battery terminals/contacts, you might be getting a bit of oxidisation making the power drop out. This happened to me with some older phones so no reason it can't be the cause.
I tried everything, new kdz update, check the contacs on battery, but they were clean and I doubt this has anything to do with it but even that did not help. My problem was yellow spots on screen, send it to service and now I dont have no problem with yellow spots but my phone constantly keep shutting down and now it is really unusable at all.I have no idea what to do.
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I tried everything, new kdz update, check the contacs on battery, but they were clean and I doubt this has anything to do with it but even that did not help. My problem was yellow spots on screen, send it to service and now I dont have no problem with yellow spots but my phone constantly keep shutting down and now it is really unusable at all.I have no idea what to do.
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Who serviced the phone? If it was through LG or your service provider, I would see if they can replace or repair it. It sounds like it could be an issue with the motherboard. Devices exposed to long periods of high humidity experience the same issue that you described.
LG service my phone and yes they replace my board with new I send it to service because of yellow spots on screen and they replace my board, now I dont have no yellow spots but phone keeps shuting down. Then I will again send it to them. Thanks
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LG service my phone and yes they replace my board with new I send it to service because of yellow spots on screen and they replace my board, now I dont have no yellow spots but phone keeps shuting down. Then I will again send it to them. Thanks
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That would be the best course of action. If you ever get a product back from repair and is still faulty, notify them immediately so that they will repair it. Sometimes if you wait to long they'll try to push the problem off on you for abusing the phone and refuse to repair it. Also, you may get lucky if you notify them that you received a faulty device after repair and handle it rationally. Most companies will compensate by replacing the device or sometimes even upgrading it for the inconvenience. I work in IT and if I don't repair something correctly the first time I'll make sure it gets taken care of and go the extra mile as long as they don't come in yelling about it. Just some "food for thought" for today.
So my Nexus 5 (a couple months ago) has started to just randomly go black. I get notifications and stuff, and the backlight but no display. Not sure what to do or what part to replace. Would flashing/rooting help at all?
Appears to be a hardware problem.
Was the phone every dropped or exposed to water/moisture? Possible loose connection inside?
No way to tell for sure if the phone needs a new screen unless you are able to test the motherboard in another N5.
audit13 said:
Appears to be a hardware problem.
Was the phone every dropped or exposed to water/moisture? Possible loose connection inside?
No way to tell for sure if the phone needs a new screen unless you are able to test the motherboard in another N5.
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It's been dropped a couple times but not like any major drops or anything. Im pretty sure I checked all the connections inside and they were good. Im starting to figure out that the phone has to be off for a little bit then I have to charge it and turn it on and it works again
Sounds like it could be a damaged lcd or lcd connection. If it can work after being charged while powered off, could be battery or USB flex cable issue.
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Sounds like it could be a damaged lcd or lcd connection. If it can work after being charged while powered off, could be battery or USB flex cable issue.
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OK thanks, ill have to look up some videos on how to check everything
Same problem
cocook2000 said:
So my Nexus 5 (a couple months ago) has started to just randomly go black. I get notifications and stuff, and the backlight but no display. Not sure what to do or what part to replace. Would flashing/rooting help at all?
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The screen suddenly goes black and after force reboot every thung is fine. When screen was black i tried calling my no it ranged but i cannot answer thr phone.
It had happed around 5-6 times in a about a week with me.
Cant figure problem.
After reboot every thing is fine working normally
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The screen suddenly goes black and after force reboot every thung is fine. When screen was black i tried calling my no it ranged but i cannot answer thr phone.
It had happed around 5-6 times in a about a week with me.
Cant figure problem.
After reboot every thing is fine working normally
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Ya I figured out I have to reboot it a bunch of times then it will work
I think it might be the battery because this is my dad's old phone so it's been in use for a solid 3 years.. I wish I knew for sure though
So I have discovered that if my screen is on for a while the task bar at the bottom starts to shift up and down
Have you found out more about this? I think I have the same problem. My phone never turns black while I use it. But when the screen is off/sleeping, it sometimes won't turn on again. So a force reboot fixes it. Sometimes this happens a lot, some times it works fine a whole day.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
tor0en said:
Have you found out more about this? I think I have the same problem. My phone never turns black while I use it. But when the screen is off/sleeping, it sometimes won't turn on again. So a force reboot fixes it. Sometimes this happens a lot, some times it works fine a whole day.
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No I decided to send it into LG I'll update this when they tell me what's up with it
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No I decided to send it into LG I'll update this when they tell me what's up with it
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OK!
I could also mention that this happen every time I unlocked the lockscreen on stock ROMs, and custom. But nameless ROM for some reason got it to this point at least. If any one have black screen on unlocking the block screen, try nameless rom...
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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OK!
I could also mention that this happen every time I unlocked the lockscreen on stock ROMs, and custom. But nameless ROM for some reason got it to this point at least. If any one have black screen on unlocking the block screen, try nameless rom...
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So what your saying is to try the rom and see if it fixes it? Can I have a link or something, I don't know much about roms
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So what your saying is to try the rom and see if it fixes it? Can I have a link or something, I don't know much about roms
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Maybe, I don't think so. My phone was useless, black screen on every screen unlock. But namelessrom took that away, so that tip about nameless was for those who have the same black screen I had earlier. But now I have the same black screens as you do. Anyway, if you want to try it out, nameless-rom.org
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Happens with my nexus too. The screen goes blank randomly ..... But i have managed to deal with it.
Its happan to me also, with 4 nexus 5 of my family.
Is a firmware problem?
I'm trying to buy a new flex cable to see if it will help I'll update when I find out
You're replacing the USB charging flex cable? If you are, be careful with cheap third-party replacements as I have read reports of people having issues with charging, signal, or speaker functionality after installing the cable.
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Have you found out more about this? I think I have the same problem. My phone never turns black while I use it. But when the screen is off/sleeping, it sometimes won't turn on again. So a force reboot fixes it. Sometimes this happens a lot, some times it works fine a whole day.
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Ya so i sent it to LG finally and the diagnostic said that it was a flex cable issue which I was sure that it was anyway but I have a confirmation now
I've had a similar problem when my display suddenly started failing. First, there was colourful bands over the working display, then colourful static only and then black with backlight only. Bought a new phone, left it for a year and today after digging in the phone for a while I found a fix. The connection between the motherboard (the top bit) and the daughter board (the bit below battery with USB and connection to display) was somewhat loose and when pressed on, the display worked beautifully. I stuffed the insides with some tape to maintain pressure on the connection and phone works great.
Might not work for your problem, but it's worth a try if you're out of warranty and have tools to disassemble the phone.
I got the following issue which has been confirmed by Samsung Service desk to be occur more often:
After power down (switching of) and start-up the screen stays blind//black. Phone seems to work (LED and sound notifications). Attaching to PC with USB phone is recognized as normal. Hard reset via power and volume down bottom (and home button) seems to work but still screen stays blind. Phone is now on its way for repair. Will keep updated once I got news.
Anyone else here has same problem? Cures? Root-cause?
no one?
I had the problem 4 months ago.
The screen went black a few times but always goes up after 10 minutes of pressing vol down + power button. But after a lot of time doing that, it finally went absolutely black like yours, and yes the phone was working cause I could hear my ringtone, see the led blinking and it vibrated sometimes.
Then they repaired it free of charge even if my knox was 0x1. I don't know if the issue is root related or not. I was rooted and on SuperMan Rom.
Hi thanks, for the reply. Mine is 100% original and being repaired currently. Not sure yet what the cause is but will share it once I got the feedback.
Cheers,
Steven
Update 28/11/2016: According to repair-shop it's the motherboard. Anyone else had issues like this?
Steven13 said:
Update 28/11/2016: According to repair-shop it's the motherboard. Anyone else had issues like this?
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When I had this issue, they told it was an issue with the motherboard and the lcd panel and they changed both according to the reparation report.
Steven13 said:
Update 28/11/2016: According to repair-shop it's the motherboard. Anyone else had issues like this?
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Not personally, but have read another one member at least, here having the same problem
Update 6-12: I'll get my phone returned this week. Apperently a faulty motherboard was the cause of this error. Samsung and it's official repair center where negatively in the news this week on a Dutch consumer program. Reason is not having enough OLED replacement screens so consumers are "forced" to buy a new one. [in Dutch: http://kassa.vara.nl/nieuws/reactie...eprocedure-van-beeldschermen-van-smartphones].
Hi All
Has anyone had any issues with a black screen?
Everything else works like incoming calls and notifications but the screen it totally black!
Woke up early hours last night and noticed no AOD so tried to turn my phone on but the screen was just dead. Tried the volume and power button but still no joy
Power it down completely then plug in the charger.
If nothing shows on the screen it sounds like you lost some significant hardware... maybe just a connector.
toddyc said:
Hi All
Has anyone had any issues with a black screen?
Everything else works like incoming calls and notifications but the screen it totally black!
Woke up early hours last night and noticed no AOD so tried to turn my phone on but the screen was just dead. Tried the volume and power button but still no joy
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Same happened to my SM-N9860 unit when I woke up today. I about to unlock and the display suddenly went black screen. Did everything but no luck. I am also sure it's the display that's f***d up. The phone is still working - I can still access it in Dex and Link to Windows. This is my second Samsung phone with f**d up display for unknown reason. This is crap Samsung. Not expecting for this from an expensive flagship smartphone. I swear this is the last.
toddyc said:
Hi All
Has anyone had any issues with a black screen?
Everything else works like incoming calls and notifications but the screen it totally black!
Woke up early hours last night and noticed no AOD so tried to turn my phone on but the screen was just dead. Tried the volume and power button but still no joy
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By the way, how did you fix your phone?
I tried searching it on the net, seems a number of Note 20 ultra units are experiencing the same.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Note20/Note-20-Ultra-Black-Screen-Phone-no-display/td-p/1437825
Seems that display replacement is the only fix.
tribalfs said:
By the way, how did you fix your phone?
I tried searching it on the net, seems a number of Note 20 ultra units are experiencing the same.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Note20/Note-20-Ultra-Black-Screen-Phone-no-display/td-p/1437825
Seems that display replacement is the only fix.
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Poor parts QC.
Samsung will substitute components and smaller chipsets in the middle of a production run. This can lead to unpredictable behavior especially after firmware updates... or outright failures like this.
Not reassuring especially with a flagship phone.
blackhawk said:
Poor parts QC.
Samsung will substitute components and smaller chipsets in the middle of a production run. This can lead to unpredictable behavior especially after firmware updates... or outright failures like this.
Not reassuring especially with a flagship phone.
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Yeah. Very disappointing.
I can't believe it but my screen unexpectedly revives itself after a day.
tribalfs said:
I can't believe it but my screen unexpectedly revives itself after a day.
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Time will tell. Intermittents are the hardest hardware failures to troubleshoot...
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Time will tell. Intermittents are the hardest hardware failures to troubleshoot...
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Agree. But I am happy that it's working fine now and I hope it will not recur.
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I can't believe it but my screen unexpectedly revives itself after a day.
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hi im facing exact same thing in my N986 B Galaxy Note 20 Ultra. I had 10 percent battery left. i had put phone on charge and saw after 20 minutes and tghe screen was black.
Now its blackscreen can connect with tv via hdmi dex mode
but phone restarts after 10 minutes.
the touch seems fine as mouse function works phone is on but no display
can you tell exactly what you did when your phone revieved after one day
did u keep it on. charge all tiime tried reset or removed charging
or nothing and tried after 1 day
Edit After 24 hours of tapping slappingrebooting installing stock firmware. my display came back alive.
last thing was i was using phone in dex mode and trying to open close camera app rapidly by direct touch on screen. i dont know what worked but it saved my 300 dollars of screen replacement
I have exactly the same issue.
I was typing on whatsapp when suddenly screen get black. It was on friday morning. Notifications were ok, voice commands too. Touchscreen ok, I could use it normally when using my TV as screen with HDMI cable or with my notebook, when connected to windows or even Dex.
One day earlier I had an issue with the new magisk update. I freeze magisk manager wich was force closing but later, I managed to reinstall with dex and was working fine. Not sure if it's related.
I already flashed fresh stock Android R rom, wich I thought would solve any issues related to magisk or any other software issue.
24h after flash stock rom and keep force rebooting and taping, and my display is still dead.
Tried to tap, slap, shake (I can her some noise next to camera module when shaking, is it normal? I took off S-pen and microsd tray to see if it was the cause, but the noise still persists). No damage, water, or anything else. Only 2 months of use.
Display is still dead.
I'm draining battery now with some apps that also vibrate phone, to see what happens when full drained.
I live in Manaus/Brazil and repair centers are not working until March 23 because of Sars-CoV2. And my knox is tripped. It would cost a lot If I have to replace display or even the phone, since they probably will say it's no longer covered by warranty.
Any tips are welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Hope I have that lucky as well.
It happened to me again today. Surprisingly, a strong knock at center of the screen revived it again.
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It happened to me again today. Surprisingly, a strong knock at center of the screen revives it again.
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Hardware failure. May be a loose connection, cracked solder joint, trace failure on the mobo, or a bad component.
Intermittents are the hardest problems to find...
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Hardware failure. May be a loose connection, cracked solder joint, trace failure on the mobo, or a bad component.
Intermittents are the hardest problems to find...
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Yes, obviously. Samsung already replacing displays of those who are having this issue.
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Yes, obviously. Samsung already replacing displays of those who are having this issue.
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Not good if there's a recall... crap QC is getting to be a bad Samsung habit.
Those of you with BSOD issues: Did you have intermittent wifi connectivity issues as well? My N20U had the 'connected to wifi AP but no internet' for the last month. Then today after unplugging the OEM charger, checking charge level, never picking the phone up from the desk, and returning to it 30 minutes later the BSOD had hit. No amount of hard restarts or waiting fixed it and it had to get shipped back. Just wondering if there is any correlation between the wifi issue and the screen going out, and if people should start sending their note in ASAP if the wifi problem occurs before the screen goes?
hello
i had the same problem (didn't have any Wifi issues before)
and after the screen went black for 2 day , it came back and worked for a few hours.. then went off again and Never came back
i tried everything, resets , cables , connecting to Dex or Hdmi , updating.. but Never worked
i went to Samsung and they said screen must be replaced ( will pay for it as i am out of warranty)
can you tell me what have you done or if anything worked for you?
My screen went black after a screen replacement. Only the front glass was broken not the digitizer or actual screen. From what I can tell it's not just the screen that's dead, it's the digitizer too. The S-Pen board underneath it all isn't even registering. When I plug it in the computer doesn't see it so Dex won't connect and there is no signal for HDMI to work. Had the USB port replaced just to be sure it wasn't a bad port.
It's like some one took the graphics card out of a computer and took the touch screen monitor. The phone still gets signal. It connected to my smart Fossil watch and I could answer calls and texts.
But the phone is 9 months old. And from what I've heard from parts distributors it's not the screen that's the issue. So now I have a new motherboard. Now I have to figure out how to program it....