USB Audio - working! - Xperia Z Accessories

Hi everyone,
I know this has been confirmed elsewhere on the net, but I didn't see anything here so thought I would pass this on to the more hardcore audio fans here.
I tried all my USB DACs last night - RSA Intruder, Apex Glacier, HeadAmp Pico, Leckterton UHA-6S.MKII and all are working with the Xperia Z.

great news! thanks mate!
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I recently got the MW1 (only €19!!!) and learned about DACs (apparently there's a pretty good one inside, Wolfson). Now using this together with the MDR-1R and my Xperia Z! Really nice.
The DACs you are talking about are standalones? How would you use these and why? And why so many? Sry noob questions, but would really like to know.

Yeah, standalone DACs/amps. You would use these because they give you better sound quality than the phone itself does, and also the amplification makes them able to drive less sensitive headphones, which phones are unsuited for. Now that Sony, HTC, and Samsung all have USB audio in their phones it means I never have to care how good or bad my phones inbuilt sound quality is, I know I'll always have awesome sound quality regardless.
As for why so many, well, no particular reason apart from I wanted to know which I liked best and I'm taking my sweet time about deciding!

moraal said:
I recently got the MW1 (only €19!!!) and learned about DACs (apparently there's a pretty good one inside, Wolfson). Now using this together with the MDR-1R and my Xperia Z! Really nice.
The DACs you are talking about are standalones? How would you use these and why? And why so many? Sry noob questions, but would really like to know.
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Where did you get it for 19 euros from?

L11 said:
Where did you get it for 19 euros from?
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It was a temporary offer from Studentmobiel, the dutch company where I ordered my XZ. Ridiculously good offer
NZtechfreak said:
Yeah, standalone DACs/amps. You would use these because they give you better sound quality than the phone itself does, and also the amplification makes them able to drive less sensitive headphones, which phones are unsuited for. Now that Sony, HTC, and Samsung all have USB audio in their phones it means I never have to care how good or bad my phones inbuilt sound quality is, I know I'll always have awesome sound quality regardless.
As for why so many, well, no particular reason apart from I wanted to know which I liked best and I'm taking my sweet time about deciding!
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Thanks for the explanation.
What do you mean by less sensitive headphones?
If I understand, newer model phones all have a DAC inside already?
In my case, because there's a Wolfson DAC in the MW1, would you recommend using MW1 or just using Xperia Z (in the case of audio quality) ?

PlugAndPlay
Is it a simple plugAndPlay or do you have to restart the phone with the DAC plugged in?
Would love to attach a Behringer X302 to my (future) Xperia Z
It's only 42Euro at Thomann.de
According to the Android App USBAudioRecorderPRO
i can record a signal with the Xperia Z (hopefully)
Think that output is also possible?

Mixermachine said:
Is it a simple plugAndPlay or do you have to restart the phone with the DAC plugged in?
Would love to attach a Behringer X302 to my (future) Xperia Z
It's only 42Euro at Thomann.de
According to the Android App USBAudioRecorderPRO
i can record a signal with the Xperia Z (hopefully)
Think that output is also possible?
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Simple plug and play, USB Audio Recorder Pro not required.

moraal said:
Thanks for the explanation.
What do you mean by less sensitive headphones?
If I understand, newer model phones all have a DAC inside already?
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All phones have a DAC inside, a DAC is a digital to analog converter, and is required for the playback of digital music and sound.
The advantage of bypassing the phones internal DAC, which is what is being done with USB audio, is that if a phone has a poor DAC (or good DAC that is poorly implemented for that matter) you're not stuck with that.
Headphones and IEMs have varying sensitivity to a given input signal - some require more power to drive effectively (and when I say drive effectively I mean drive to both good listening volume levels and adequately control the driver of the headphone to get the best from it). That's a fairly simplistic and ham-fisted explanation right there to get the basic gist across, if you really want to understand 'sensitivity' you should take a look at somewhere like Head-Fi and so some reading about sensitivity and input impedance (for starters). As a general rule IEMs tend to be more sensitive than full-sized headphones.

NZtechfreak said:
Simple plug and play, USB Audio Recorder Pro not required.
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Input and Out?
What happens when you connect a USB Hub.
Would love to connect a external powered USB Hub, a cheap DAC and my Samson G-Track USB Microphone )

Mixermachine said:
Input and Out?
What happens when you connect a USB Hub.
Would love to connect a external powered USB Hub, a cheap DAC and my Samson G-Track USB Microphone )
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I haven't tried input, I expect that will require USB Audio Recorder Pro. I can check that with my generic Logitech mic.
Connection via a hub should work fine, at least for output, have done that with my S3 and Note II and it's fine. Not sure about simultaneous input and output via a hub though.

NZtechfreak said:
All phones have a DAC inside, a DAC is a digital to analog converter, and is required for the playback of digital music and sound.
The advantage of bypassing the phones internal DAC, which is what is being done with USB audio, is that if a phone has a poor DAC (or good DAC that is poorly implemented for that matter) you're not stuck with that.
Headphones and IEMs have varying sensitivity to a given input signal - some require more power to drive effectively (and when I say drive effectively I mean drive to both good listening volume levels and adequately control the driver of the headphone to get the best from it). That's a fairly simplistic and ham-fisted explanation right there to get the basic gist across, if you really want to understand 'sensitivity' you should take a look at somewhere like Head-Fi and so some reading about sensitivity and input impedance (for starters). As a general rule IEMs tend to be more sensitive than full-sized headphones.
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Thanks, clear explanation!
I've read several reviews on head-fi, but when it comes to the details, I have no clue what they're talking about ;p Soundstages and subbass and all that. I do want to learn though, would you have any other recommended sites fot this kind of information?

USB audio out works plug and play with my Fiio E07K. Makes the MDR-1R sound awesome!

@NZtechfreak
Youve got me thinking :thumbup:
Is it possible to yplug a micro usb into the Xperia z which splits on the other end into two usbs -
One for the dac the other for charging?
Ive got an idea brewing...
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I'm getting back my Audio-GD NFB-3.32... Upgraded to USB 32... wonder if that'll work with the XZ.... cause i believe that even in windows, a driver needs to be installed...

DarkKrypt said:
@NZtechfreak
Youve got me thinking :thumbup:
Is it possible to yplug a micro usb into the Xperia z which splits on the other end into two usbs -
One for the dac the other for charging?
Ive got an idea brewing...
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You can use a Y-split cable according to some at Head-Fi, however I believe it will only charge the attached peripheral and not the phone.
jkwanness said:
I'm getting back my Audio-GD NFB-3.32... Upgraded to USB 32... wonder if that'll work with the XZ.... cause i believe that even in windows, a driver needs to be installed...
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Probably not if driver installation is required. I have the Audio-GD Reference 10 by the way, they make some stunning gear.

NZtechfreak said:
Hi everyone,
I know this has been confirmed elsewhere on the net, but I didn't see anything here so thought I would pass this on to the more hardcore audio fans here.
I tried all my USB DACs last night - RSA Intruder, Apex Glacier, HeadAmp Pico, Leckterton UHA-6S.MKII and all are working with the Xperia Z.
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Hi, I am really interested in knowing more. Could you tell me how you plugged the Xperia Z? Is it a direct plug and play using USB out from the Z. ANY SPECIAL CABLE NEEDED OR JUST THE CHARGER USB CABLE?
Appreciate the info. :good:

Hi,
I'm very interested in this thread.
I bought that device for my xperia z, ESI Dr. dac nano.
But it doesn't work "power consumption error message", because this dac is usb powered :s.
I think the xperia z will only accept dac/AMP which work with their own battery, do you have a device to test this ?
i'm also very interested in the hrt microstreamer but it is also usb powered, so i won't buy it until i have a proof it can work with an xperia z.
I think your not new in "the word of usb dac/amp" could you give me an advice if i want to buy a battery powered usb dac/amp, as small as possible and with a sound as good as the microstreamer(only basing on review :s)?

cedou97yon said:
Hi,
I'm very interested in this thread.
I bought that device for my xperia z, ESI Dr. dac nano.
But it doesn't work "power consumption error message", because this dac is usb powered :s.
I think the xperia z will only accept dac/AMP which work with their own battery, do you have a device to test this ?
i'm also very interested in the hrt microstreamer but it is also usb powered, so i won't buy it until i have a proof it can work with an xperia z.
I think your not new in "the word of usb dac/amp" could you give me an advice if i want to buy a battery powered usb dac/amp, as small as possible and with a sound as good as the microstreamer(only basing on review :s)?
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You are right in that you need a self powerd amp/dac. I suggest the Sony PHA-1.
By any chance do you know if for Xperias equiped with 4.1 Jellybean connection to outside amp/dacs is plug n play or do you need special app?

Related

[Q] Desire - Splitters, Y-Cables, 3 in 1 Adapters

Hi,
I've been looking around for something that will allow me to connect 3 separate inputs/outputs into my Desire:
microphone
speakers
charger
There seem to be a few DIY methods involving camcorder leads/ 4 pole jacks I can't be arsed with, but then I found these:
1. http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTC-Splitter-XV6850-Diamond-XV6950/dp/B001W49OKK
2. http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Multifunction-Adapter-T-Mobile-Shadow/dp/B001QD3MQE
3. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001RTM6KA
4. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00195I3X6
1 and 2 look ideal but they don't mention compatibility with the desire
the otherz look as though they won't work with a microphone
has anyone already purchased any of these / do they work?
or can you recommend anything else that would work?
any help would be appreciated, thanks
I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure the Desire doesn't have any audio capability via the USB port.
tarmacsurfer said:
I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure the Desire doesn't have any audio capability via the USB port.
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that really sucks if you're right
tarmacsurfer said:
I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure the Desire doesn't have any audio capability via the USB port.
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Yes, that's true. Heard it from HTC Sweden. I think it sucks, when will we Android-users be able to buy cool audio docks?
#3 and #4 are mini usb, they wont even fit in your desire. #1 and #2 are too low quality to be sure.
i'm sure you could look for something to utilise your headphone jack so you have a separate microphone and headphone component plugged into a Y jack, and charging via usual means
You could butcher your hands free kit that came with the desire and use it for speaker/microphone.

[Q] Fiio E18 DAC/AMP compatible?

Hi, I recently bought the Samsung galaxy note 4.
Has anyone got the E18 working with it? I would like to know before ordering the E18.
Also I plan to use it with a lot of spotify. Even though that is not the best source I do believe the E18 will still dramatically improve the sound.
Does anyone know if that's true or is it not worth bothering getting an E18 if spotify is my source?
Thanks,
coffeenkfc
coffeenkfc said:
Hi, I recently bought the Samsung galaxy note 4.
Has anyone got the E18 working with it? I would like to know before ordering the E18.
Also I plan to use it with a lot of spotify. Even though that is not the best source I do believe the E18 will still dramatically improve the sound.
Does anyone know if that's true or is it not worth bothering getting an E18 if spotify is my source?
Thanks,
coffeenkfc
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I have ordered one and will let you know.
yes, i have one, no prob ...
kryz70fr said:
yes, i have one, no prob ...
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Sweet! Thanks!
According to the guys over at headfi, it is a software issue. Kitkat does not support music over usb. You will have to wait until Lolipop comes out that will support music over usb. You can still use the Fiio as a regular amp, just no DAC
I also order one myself from the Massdrop deal, i should have it by Tuesday, my Beyerdynamic 770 are useless without a AMP/DAC.
Thanks kryz70fr, does it work as a DAC or just as a AMP? Are you using the kitkat version of android?
kryz70fr said:
yes, i have one, no prob ...
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I ordered the cheepo beheringer one and it worked.
Have you guys tried http://tidalhifi.com/us yet ?
"With our lossless audio experience, you can enjoy your music the way the artists intended. Unlimited access to over 25 million tracks."
I bought USB Audio Player Pro, so it should work.
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willywill said:
I also order one myself from the Massdrop deal, i should have it by Tuesday, my Beyerdynamic 770 are useless without a AMP/DAC.
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My portable setup for 16bit audio is/was an old 5.1 ipod w/ Wolfson DAC, AMP'd with the TTVJ Slim. My portable setup for HD 24bit audio is an Astell&Kern 120 Titan, no AMP. My portable cans are Beyer D's DT1350's @ 80ohms and Westone 4R IEMs @ 31ohms.
I've recently put a fair amount of 16bit audio on my Note 4 and use Neutron as my player. After boosting up the preamp a bit in Neutron, I can run my DT1350s with no amp and still get an excellent sound signature compared to my ipod/TTJV Slim setup. Very happy with the sound.
I don't see the Note 4 being able to drive cans that are much > 80ohm of impedance without an AMP. Honestly, 80ohms is at the higher end of the scale to be driven by most portable devices/phones, something in the 30ohm range would be a better choice. I'd say my 1350's require about 20-25% more volume relative to my 4Rs.
Which DT770s do you have, the 32, 80 or 250ohm version?
You don't need any software like audio pro. I use it with e18 and e17 from fiio. Note 4 has native usb audio. Just get a nice player like poweramp or neutron.
would love tidal hi fi but it's not in Canada yet
Hi, I would love to try tidal hi fi but it's not a/v in Canada yet!
lurch0101 said:
Have you guys tried tidal hi fi yet ?
"With our lossless audio experience, you can enjoy your music the way the artists intended. Unlimited access to over 25 million tracks."
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verified e18 works with note 4
Hi guys I found an e18 to test w/ my note 4 and it works as a DAC no problem with android 4.4.4.
Finally I can listen to music in a decent & portable way
Only two minor complaints - the USB mini to USB mini cable that comes with the e18 seems too tight. Hopefully doesn't wear out the connector.
The other item is when music isn't playing you hear a little static on occasion (at least when spotify is running & no music is playing) but I think I read this on a review saying it's pretty hard to eliminate this the source being a smartphone so I can accept that.
coffeenkfc said:
Hi, I recently bought the Samsung galaxy note 4.
Has anyone got the E18 working with it? I would like to know before ordering the E18.
Also I plan to use it with a lot of spotify. Even though that is not the best source I do believe the E18 will still dramatically improve the sound.
Does anyone know if that's true or is it not worth bothering getting an E18 if spotify is my source?
Thanks,
coffeenkfc
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lurch0101 said:
Have you guys tried http://tidalhifi.com/us yet ?
"With our lossless audio experience, you can enjoy your music the way the artists intended. Unlimited access to over 25 million tracks."
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Yes fantastic but music sounds better on my LG G3.
I am waiting for a USB otg which I bought from eBay to come to me so I can connect my fiio e17 with my at m50x
i have problem with the e18 fonction Charge out and Note 4, don't charge and you ?
do you know an way to charge the note 4 in a car with the Fiio plugged ?
coffeenkfc said:
Hi guys I found an e18 to test w/ my note 4 and it works as a DAC no problem with android 4.4.4.
Finally I can listen to music in a decent & portable way
Only two minor complaints - the USB mini to USB mini cable that comes with the e18 seems too tight. Hopefully doesn't wear out the connector.
The other item is when music isn't playing you hear a little static on occasion (at least when spotify is running & no music is playing) but I think I read this on a review saying it's pretty hard to eliminate this the source being a smartphone so I can accept that.
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Have you tried FLAC music on the Note 4 feeding the E18?
Charges for me. Did you try selecting 'CHG OUT' and also powering on the e18 i.e. turning the volume knob higher than 0? The cable you should be using is the same as DAC i.e. middle. You can't use the side connector i.e. the one you use to charge the e18 to also charge your phone.
kryz70fr said:
i have problem with the e18 fonction Charge out and Note 4, don't charge and you ?
do you know an way to charge the note 4 in a car with the Fiio plugged ?
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No sorry, I'm all about Spotify right now. If it's worth listening to FLAC it's worth listening to on my desktop system.
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Have you tried FLAC music on the Note 4 feeding the E18?
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Inside the JBL motomod

Has anyone taken this thing apart? I cannot really find a lot of information on it online.
I am curious to know if it has its own dac/amp to run the speakers and what the connectors are made of.
If it does have a dac/amp is there a way to wire a 3.5mm headphone jack to it...or make the usb c port use the dac and amp to push headphones.
Please do not get into a debate trying to sell me on bluetooth headphones I have no desire to use a bluetooth adapter with a record player, and don't even like wireless gaming headsets, I prefer my audio wired...part of why I love this mod, not too many wired speakers as convenient and as portable as this one.
LeeMullinsII said:
Has anyone taken this thing apart? I cannot really find a lot of information on it online.
I am curious to know if it has its own dac/amp to run the speakers and what the connectors are made of.
If it does have a dac/amp is there a way to wire a 3.5mm headphone jack to it...or make the usb c port use the dac and amp to push headphones.
Please do not get into a debate trying to sell me on bluetooth headphones I have no desire to use a bluetooth adapter with a record player, and don't even like wireless gaming headsets, I prefer my audio wired...part of why I love this mod, not too many wired speakers as convenient and as portable as this one.
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Back cover is a sticker. Its pretty compact inside. Can you add a jack to it? Yes. Will it look good? No. If you have to ask if it can be done its going to be to large of a project for you.
bignazpwns said:
Back cover is a sticker. Its pretty compact inside. Can you add a jack to it? Yes. Will it look good? No. If you have to ask if it can be done its going to be to large of a project for you.
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Is there a dac/amp in it?
LeeMullinsII said:
Is there a dac/amp in it?
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Amp yes. DAC not sure never looked at the ic's close. I would Assume there is one to to do the digital to analog conversion.
Personally i would just make a mod. Order the parts have a case 3d printed. Making the mod is pretty simple. Few ways you can do it through a mod. If you do this you can set up something nice made for headphones. Adjust the gain from that so you can use higher impedance speakers.
Lenovo is going to announce more mods soon. I bet one of them will be a hi-fi mod. I would just wait for that.
I am hoping for something from ifa, but still want to keep my options open since I refuse to buy a walkman for close to a grand...although replacing speakers with a headphone jack seems a little easier to me than building a mod from scratch
LeeMullinsII said:
I am hoping for something from ifa, but still want to keep my options open since I refuse to buy a walkman for close to a grand...although replacing speakers with a headphone jack seems a little easier to me than building a mod from scratch
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If you do that then just use the USB c conversation. That moto mod is not going to be set up for the impedance of some headphones. So the amazing audio quality you think you will be getting will not be there.
Stock JBL speakers are I think 3 ohms. My high-end headphones are around 70-200. It just won't have the power needed to drive high end headphones to the upper levels
Can the connection pins for the mods duplicate a usb otg connection?
What Im thinking is making something of a case for the drangonfly red dac/amp should have room in there for a small battery pack as well...for the dac not the phone.
LeeMullinsII said:
Can the connection pins for the mods duplicate a usb otg connection?
What Im thinking is making something of a case for the drangonfly red dac/amp should have room in there for a small battery pack as well...for the dac not the phone.
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Gonna need a dev kit if you wanna go through the moto mod and not a USB OTG.
Moto mod will give you USB 3.1 host and slave 2.0 host.
MuC is basically the brain for a Moto mod.
The moto mod it's self is not hard to make. You can get a dev kit. Plug into the USB type c on it and call it a day. Or build something.
bignazpwns said:
Gonna need a dev kit if you wanna go through the moto mod and not a USB OTG.
Moto mod will give you USB 3.1 host and slave 2.0 host.
MuC is basically the brain for a Moto mod.
The moto mod it's self is not hard to make. You can get a dev kit. Plug into the USB type c on it and call it a day. Or build something.
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The dev kit has a usb port on it? Is there a forum dedicated to mod developing?

USB Type C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter

My issue
Hi everyone, I have a Nexus 6P and want to route my audio through a USB type C converter to 3.5mm headphone Jack. I have purchased one online, but it doesn't seem to be working. I have seen that the Moto Z has this adapter and I assumed one I found online would be compatible with my 6P. The reason I want to do this is because I prefer for the AUX jack to come out the bottom of my phone.
What I have tired
Changed 'Select USB Configuration' to all the different options and tried playing music.
Tried 'audio routing' apps from the app store
What I would like to know
Is this because I need to change a setting in my phone to route music out of the USB C?
Do I need to get some kind of DAC to allow support for this?
Has anyone else tried this with their phone?
Thanks
broj0nes
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If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
eregev said:
If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
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One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
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One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
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Re:sound quality, you'd possibly see a quality increase if you use an external Digital to Analogue Converter or fully usb-c headphones. BUT, if you're using a little dongle (if it's possible), then the phone is still managing the analogue conversion and, thus, a very similar quality of audio output. Now I don't know of the 6p's ability to pipe it straight out iPhone 7 style through a dongle, but short of buying a DAC and going whole-hog on an audio upgrade, I'd just flip your phone the other way in your pocket and go the standard route.
Just my $.02
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
sgandy2989 said:
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
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Looks quite similar to the one that I got. Hopefully it works for you! Let me know how it goes
I read recently that the current implementation of audio over USB-C isn't very efficient or battery friendly. There's a new spec being ratified to provide audio like the iphone can. Hopefully that's a firmware change and not a hardware one.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/17/12519936/intel-usb-type-c-headphone-jack-replacement-idf-2016
I don't think it's possible on the 6P, not without using a USB DAC anyway.
As far as I'm aware, the adapter you have is for a USB 3/3.1 interface. While the 6P has USB-C it is USB 2.
I'm able to get audio out of my USB C port, but it's with a USB headset. Haven't tried it with a 3.5mm headphone adapter, but havd no reason to try it either.
This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
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This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
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Bluetooth headphones usually have their own DAC, so the audio for all but the Aux is still being sent through the DAC first, which is supported by older USB standards.
The new USB 3.1 Audio standard can pass through analogue audio from the internal DAC, which is what I believe phones such as the Moto Z utilise. Otherwise the adapter would require it's own DAC, which would make it far larger and more expensive.
Not sure if you will find a good solution at the moment since they just created a standard for audio over usb c http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160927006252/en/USB-IF-Announces-USB-Audio-Device-Class-3.0
Did the amazon converter end up working for you?
My experience so far.
Hi, I ordered some usb c to 3.5mm & out of the box so far they aren't working. I tried Neutron and tried to force the audio to usb but unsuccessfully with phone not recognizing the USB connection.
On the other hand the type C to usb-a adapter worked beautifully using mixplorer. If I get working, will update. Thanks.

Bullet USB-C vs. 3.5mm Audio Quality On OP6? Has Anyone Compared Them.....?

I know these are only $20.00 earbuds but has anyone compared? I read usb-c is better because the processing is done in the buds vs. on the phone for 3.5mm.
I ordered and received my OP6 with accessories one being the USB-C Bullets (by mistake choosing the wrong power play bundle). They didn't work and I was going to return them until I found out enabling OTG enabled them. It is kind of a hassle having to enable OTG every time though. But if the output is better?
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I know these are only $20.00 earbuds but has anyone compared? I read usb-c is better because the processing is done in the buds vs. on the phone for 3.5mm.
I ordered and received my OP6 with accessories one being the USB-C Bullets (by mistake choosing the wrong power play bundle). They didn't work and I was going to return them until I found out enabling OTG enabled them. It is kind of a hassle having to enable OTG every time though. But if the output is better?
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The sound quality of a playback from any device is a relative thing. You can't measure quality but only compare it by and for yourself, still, only subjectively. You have to judge $20 earbuds and ask yourself: are they good enough for me? If the answer is 'No' then you try something else.
Some people rely on 1 to 5 Star ratings posted by the seller, that could be deceiving too.
I came from an s7 edge and I felt that the 3.5mm jack output quality was not as good in op6. So it would be interesting to know if maybe usb c audio is better
koolkunz said:
I came from an s7 edge and I felt that the 3.5mm jack output quality was not as good in op6. So it would be interesting to know if maybe usb c audio is better
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Same, all good with ViPER4Android tho.. (used the same for s7 edge)
Have you tried USB c output?
Hi georgiapi, have you figured out how to enable USB c audio output? I tried several times with enabling otg or switching preset USB mode (PTP,charging, file transfer, midi...) in developer options but I'm not able to make USB c audio working... I read on the internet that enabling otg works with OP3, 3t, 5, 5t...Anyone that can help? I honestly think that music quality coming from 3,5mm jack is really low-quality and I would like to know if with USB c the situation would be better...thanks

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