Has anyone taken this thing apart? I cannot really find a lot of information on it online.
I am curious to know if it has its own dac/amp to run the speakers and what the connectors are made of.
If it does have a dac/amp is there a way to wire a 3.5mm headphone jack to it...or make the usb c port use the dac and amp to push headphones.
Please do not get into a debate trying to sell me on bluetooth headphones I have no desire to use a bluetooth adapter with a record player, and don't even like wireless gaming headsets, I prefer my audio wired...part of why I love this mod, not too many wired speakers as convenient and as portable as this one.
LeeMullinsII said:
Has anyone taken this thing apart? I cannot really find a lot of information on it online.
I am curious to know if it has its own dac/amp to run the speakers and what the connectors are made of.
If it does have a dac/amp is there a way to wire a 3.5mm headphone jack to it...or make the usb c port use the dac and amp to push headphones.
Please do not get into a debate trying to sell me on bluetooth headphones I have no desire to use a bluetooth adapter with a record player, and don't even like wireless gaming headsets, I prefer my audio wired...part of why I love this mod, not too many wired speakers as convenient and as portable as this one.
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Back cover is a sticker. Its pretty compact inside. Can you add a jack to it? Yes. Will it look good? No. If you have to ask if it can be done its going to be to large of a project for you.
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Back cover is a sticker. Its pretty compact inside. Can you add a jack to it? Yes. Will it look good? No. If you have to ask if it can be done its going to be to large of a project for you.
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Is there a dac/amp in it?
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Is there a dac/amp in it?
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Amp yes. DAC not sure never looked at the ic's close. I would Assume there is one to to do the digital to analog conversion.
Personally i would just make a mod. Order the parts have a case 3d printed. Making the mod is pretty simple. Few ways you can do it through a mod. If you do this you can set up something nice made for headphones. Adjust the gain from that so you can use higher impedance speakers.
Lenovo is going to announce more mods soon. I bet one of them will be a hi-fi mod. I would just wait for that.
I am hoping for something from ifa, but still want to keep my options open since I refuse to buy a walkman for close to a grand...although replacing speakers with a headphone jack seems a little easier to me than building a mod from scratch
LeeMullinsII said:
I am hoping for something from ifa, but still want to keep my options open since I refuse to buy a walkman for close to a grand...although replacing speakers with a headphone jack seems a little easier to me than building a mod from scratch
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If you do that then just use the USB c conversation. That moto mod is not going to be set up for the impedance of some headphones. So the amazing audio quality you think you will be getting will not be there.
Stock JBL speakers are I think 3 ohms. My high-end headphones are around 70-200. It just won't have the power needed to drive high end headphones to the upper levels
Can the connection pins for the mods duplicate a usb otg connection?
What Im thinking is making something of a case for the drangonfly red dac/amp should have room in there for a small battery pack as well...for the dac not the phone.
LeeMullinsII said:
Can the connection pins for the mods duplicate a usb otg connection?
What Im thinking is making something of a case for the drangonfly red dac/amp should have room in there for a small battery pack as well...for the dac not the phone.
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Gonna need a dev kit if you wanna go through the moto mod and not a USB OTG.
Moto mod will give you USB 3.1 host and slave 2.0 host.
MuC is basically the brain for a Moto mod.
The moto mod it's self is not hard to make. You can get a dev kit. Plug into the USB type c on it and call it a day. Or build something.
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Gonna need a dev kit if you wanna go through the moto mod and not a USB OTG.
Moto mod will give you USB 3.1 host and slave 2.0 host.
MuC is basically the brain for a Moto mod.
The moto mod it's self is not hard to make. You can get a dev kit. Plug into the USB type c on it and call it a day. Or build something.
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The dev kit has a usb port on it? Is there a forum dedicated to mod developing?
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Has anyone seen a microUSB dock/charger/headset that has audio capability as well as charging the phone? What I'd like is to play music from, have headset controls from, and charge the phone all from the microUSB port on the bottom... or is this what car docks are supposed to do?
The way my car is, it's annoying to plug in the charger on the bottom AND the line out on the top - if there's a headset/adapter type thing, I figure I'll buy one of those and build my own car dock, and potentially speaker dock for the indoors.
OR: Just a microUSB headset - maybe I could add charger wires to it...
Month-long bump: I've realized that all I want right now is a microUSB headset, like for the older phones with no headphone jack. Obviously they don't make these for the G2x; has anyone confirmed another LG headset that works with this phone?
I honestly dont know if anything like that exists but I dont think so because of several reasons. Just a few that come to mind I'm not sure if the kernel driver supports it even if it could; the power running parallel to the audio probably would sound terrible; the USB would probably have to be used with a USB (female) to micro-USB (male) adapter since if you were to find it, it would probably be for PC so needed to be converted further adding to the reduction in sound quality.
Silly question.... why not just use Bluetooth and then usb to charge/data only??
Not a silly question at all. I don't feel like paying for a bluetooth adapter but also, because I've had bad luck with them in the past, as far as sound quality goes; I wasn't very impressed. Are there any good/reasonably priced bluetooth adapters that you've had luck with?
The blackberry audio gateway has been reliable for me and sounds decent.
Hmm maybe... not really a fan of having to plug that in, in addition to my stereo. I'll keep it in mind. Any others?
I own a Galaxy S3 phone from Verizon, and I also own a 2012 Chevy Impala with the stock head unit. The head unit has a 3.5mm input jack in it, and I currently use a 3.5mm male to 3.5mm male cable to feed audio to my head unit from my phone's headphone jack. I was looking today through my box of cables, and I found this cable with a micro-USB plug on one end, and a full-size USB plug and a 3.5mm mini-jack plug on the other end. I do not know for the life of me where this cable originated; but I want to use this cable to charge my S3 and feed the head unit audio through the USB port on the bottom of my phone. (Technically the cable will be plugged into my car dock that I got with the phone.) I have a 12v to USB converter in my car already (because the car's alternator causes huge audio interference with the Verizon charger I have) and the cable works to charge the device, but no audio comes to the head unit. Is there a way to force the S3 to pipe audio through the USB port in a similar way as it does with the official desk dock?
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Don't know but I just bought one of these to try after reading about it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-AUX-Audio-Output-Cable-USB-Charger-Cable-Sam-sung-S3-i9300-i9220-i9100-/111002137997
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Don't know but I just bought one of these to try after reading about it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-AUX-Audio-Output-Cable-USB-Charger-Cable-Sam-sung-S3-i9300-i9220-i9100-/111002137997
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Just grabbed one as well, feels like I replace the headphone cable pretty often, should've gotten a bluetooth deck.. what was I thinking.
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Don't know but I just bought one of these to try after reading about it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-AUX-Audio-Output-Cable-USB-Charger-Cable-Sam-sung-S3-i9300-i9220-i9100-/111002137997
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Yeah, that's the thing that I have, but it does not work...
Okay, I read the rest of that ebay listing, and I followed the instructions. It does work, as it turns out. However, it's very inconvenient to turn on and off. Anyone have a homescreen widget that enables and disables accessory audio?
Forget all of that. Go this route. It will give you excellent audio quality and USB sound+charge at the same time. I have this setup with the Behringer UCA202 DAC and couldn't be happier with the sound quality. I love that it charges too and I only have to plug one cord in to the phone. No settings to change or anything, just plug and play music from any app. The DAC moves all of the sound processing off of the phone for better quality. Just check that link out.
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Forget all of that. Go this route. It will give you excellent audio quality and USB sound+charge at the same time. I have this setup with the Behringer UCA202 DAC and couldn't be happier with the sound quality. I love that it charges too and I only have to plug one cord in to the phone. No settings to change or anything, just plug and play music from any app. The DAC moves all of the sound processing off of the phone for better quality. Just check that link out.
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I don't have anywhere to mount a DAC in my vehicle, though...
I'm sure you could find a space under the dash. You don't have to mount it out in the open. lol.
Hi. I purchased a Star Note i9220 n9000 a few months ago and I wanted to plug in new headphones. The headphones that came with the phone fit the jack perfectly and I can hear out of it just fine but when I plug in different headphones, the plug is too short and the jack is too long. Does anyone know where I can purchase an adapter or headphones with a longer 3.5mm plug? I also posted a picture to compare. Notice how the one on the right is a little longer and has 3 ridges instead of two.
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Hi. I purchased a Star Note i9220 n9000 a few months ago and I wanted to plug in new headphones. The headphones that came with the phone fit the jack perfectly and I can hear out of it just fine but when I plug in different headphones, the plug is too short and the jack is too long. Does anyone know where I can purchase an adapter or headphones with a longer 3.5mm plug? I also posted a picture to compare. Notice how the one on the right is a little longer and has 3 ridges instead of two.
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This heaphone is not compatible with your phone.
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Hi. I purchased a Star Note i9220 n9000 a few months ago and I wanted to plug in new headphones. The headphones that came with the phone fit the jack perfectly and I can hear out of it just fine but when I plug in different headphones, the plug is too short and the jack is too long. Does anyone know where I can purchase an adapter or headphones with a longer 3.5mm plug? I also posted a picture to compare. Notice how the one on the right is a little longer and has 3 ridges instead of two.
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Is the picture on the earphones?
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Is the picture on the earphones?
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No that is not the picture of the earphones, but if it's made by the same company then they should use the same jack and headphones. I bought my phone off Amazon, just look up Star Note n9000. Normal 3.5mm headphones have plugs that are too short, the headphones that came with the phone are still 3.5mm but they are a bit longer. So I need help finding an adapter or headphones that have the special longer plug. Thanks to anyone who can help.
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This heaphone is not compatible with your phone.
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Yes, I know it isn't compatible. That's why I'm trying to find headphones that are compatible with my phone or an adapter that can make it compatible.
Hope This Helps!!
Take a look on ebay for Quad connection Headphones or similar
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Take a look on ebay for Quad connection Headphones or similar
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Thanks for the help, but could you send me a link? I can't seem to find it.
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Is the picture on the earphones?
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Also, the headphones in that picture look like they might work on my phone. Do you think you could send me a link to those headphones if you can?
Hey guys, I'm giving up on trying to find headphones that work with my phone. I'll just buy a wireless, bluetooth one now.
Update: I changed my mind, i'm not giving up on trying to find compatible headphones for my phone.
normally 3.5 is 3.5, but from the way it looks these are more like 3.6 or 3.7 so it looks like they have their own headphone type or something
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normally 3.5 is 3.5, but from the way it looks these are more like 3.6 or 3.7 so it looks like they have their own headphone type or something
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I'm pretty sure that the 3.5mm is the diameter instead of the length. So both of the headphone plugs in the picture are 3.5mm. It's just that the one on the right's length is a little longer than the other one. I really need help trying to find an adapter for this or finding some other headphones with the longer plug. I also figured out what the three rings/ridges on the other plug meant. The third ring is for the microphone. So I tried to find earbuds with a microphone, although i am not sure if all earbuds with microphones have a plug that's longer than standard earbuds.
Hey guys i found some earbuds that might work with my phone.
http://www.amazon.com/Alpatronix-Pe...=1381367364&sr=1-148&keywords=earbud+with+mic
I am not entirely sure if these will work with my phone but they have the three ridges on the plug that my current headphones have. Please notify me if you don't think these will work or if you think they will.
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I'm pretty sure that the 3.5mm is the diameter instead of the length. So both of the headphone plugs in the picture are 3.5mm. It's just that the one on the right's length is a little longer than the other one. I really need help trying to find an adapter for this or finding some other headphones with the longer plug. I also figured out what the three rings/ridges on the other plug meant. The third ring is for the microphone. So I tried to find earbuds with a microphone, although i am not sure if all earbuds with microphones have a plug that's longer than standard earbuds.
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yeah, i realised that
normally, the ones with a mic aren't any longer
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yeah, i realised that
normally, the ones with a mic aren't any longer
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Do you think you could show me a side by side comparison of a headphone plug without a mic and a one with a mic? Thanks!
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Do you think you could show me a side by side comparison of a headphone plug without a mic and a one with a mic? Thanks!
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i could, but it is an apple one, so i don't know the difference with a normal one with mic, but i can compare the apple thing with a normal one without mic, maybe i can a normal one with mic, will see later this day
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i could, but it is an apple one, so i don't know the difference with a normal one with mic, but i can compare the apple thing with a normal one without mic, maybe i can a normal one with mic, will see later this day
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Alright, please do so whenever you can. I really appreciate the help.
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Do you think you could show me a side by side comparison of a headphone plug without a mic and a one with a mic? Thanks!
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Not really needed.
The short one: 3.5mm 2 (or 3) conductor stereo jack (TRS - Tip ring sleeve)
The long one: 3.5mm 4 conductor stereo + mic jack (TRRS - Tip ring ring sleeve)
So, all in all, just look on the net for TRRS to TRS adapter. Should run you 10$ at most. They're a bit rare but hey you'll be able to use any headphones with any stereo jack.
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Not really needed.
The short one: 3.5mm 2 (or 3) conductor stereo jack (TRS - Tip ring sleeve)
The long one: 3.5mm 4 conductor stereo + mic jack (TRRS - Tip ring ring sleeve)
So, all in all, just look on the net for TRRS to TRS adapter. Should run you 10$ at most. They're a bit rare but hey you'll be able to use any headphones with any stereo jack.
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both of these types should be the same size, and most phones are compatible with both types, so an adapter shouldn't be neccesary.
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both of these types should be the same size, and most phones are compatible with both types, so an adapter shouldn't be neccesary.
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Nope. You're wrong.
Edit: I think Apple uses a TRRS connector that is the same size, but that's pretty much the only exception, because surprise surprise it's Apple.
Edit 2: Here's a link for one, for instance: http://www.scansound.com/index.php/4-conductor-trrs-to-3-conductor-trs-3-5mm-adapter.html
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Nope. You're wrong.
Edit: I think Apple uses a TRRS connector that is the same size, but that's pretty much the only exception, because surprise surprise it's Apple.
Edit 2: Here's a link for one, for instance: http://www.scansound.com/index.php/4-conductor-trrs-to-3-conductor-trs-3-5mm-adapter.html
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never had any problems with any trrs on any device, most phones should be compatible with trs and trrs
Hi!
I find that the original port jack delivers a sound of poor quality. The power of output is very low.
My question is: Do you think that using the USB type C port with an adaptator could improve the sound quality in my headphones?
Thank you
Buy a external dac or LG product
Did you try the v4a module in magisk with the profile given in this section of xda?
I was wondering if using an extarnal DAC (adaptator usb C to jack) could improve the quality
What is V4a module? is it necessary to be rooted?
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I was wondering if using an extarnal DAC (adaptator usb C to jack) could improve the quality
What is V4a module? is it necessary to be rooted?
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Yea, magisk/root is needed for the viper4android module to get the sound tweaks. I dont know what type of headset you got but it its bluetooth then make sure its APT X supported to get the best sound out of the non rooted phone.
These usb c to 3.5 with biuld in DAC are nice but you need to have a premium headset to enjoy from those.... these adapters are like 15 bucks and can do 16 and 24bit output.
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Yea, magisk/root is needed for the viper4android module to get the sound tweaks. I dont know what type of headset you got but it its bluetooth then make sure its APT X supported to get the best sound out of the non rooted phone.
These usb c to 3.5 with biuld in DAC are nice but you need to have a premium headset to enjoy from those.... these adapters are like 15 bucks and can do 16 and 24bit output.
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Thank you!
I really want to improve the quality on the headphone jack.
Do you think that if I use an adaptator on the usb C port it will work?
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Thank you!
I really want to improve the quality on the headphone jack.
Do you think that if I use an adaptator on the usb C port it will work?
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yup ofcourse it will and it will be the same as the pixel 2 dongle. Just make sure you buy the correct one with a high res DAC in the cable and not these 2 dollar cheap one's that only convert digital to analog.
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Hi!
I find that the original port jack delivers a sound of poor quality. The power of output is very low.
My question is: Do you think that using the USB type C port with an adaptator could improve the sound quality in my headphones?
Thank you
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You will need a dongle that has a decent amplifier in order to get louder sound than stock without crazy distortion. Decent amplifiers are not cheap. Finding a dongle with a good dac/amp combo is probably the best way to accomplish this
Stick in something into the headphone jack, go to settings, audio and vibration, audio tuner
Play around till it fits your taste.
Hi. The audio is okay on the phone. Good with earphones but okay when I use the headphone jack to my car stereo input. Why not bluetooth? Its because direct connect provides the best sound. NOW HEAR THIS. I plugged in my essential phones usb head jack adapter (essential phone has no headphone jack but they do provide a USB C headphone jack dongle) and its like a WOW. I couldn't believe how much the quality of the audio improved. I am talking about tremendous improvement. Like a different phone WOW. Now whether it was due to essential having a dac chip in the dongle (I think it does) I have no clue. I was shocked because normally the question would be why does a dac chip USB C headphone cable work on a phone with a headphone jack? Did Moto decide at the last design phase was to include a built in jack? The dac cables only supposed to work on phone like the essential or the google pixel 2 etc if I am correct.. Well i am da.... sure glad it works on the Moto G6. How you proceed with what you get/prefer to purchase is up to you. I don't know what the end result will be because I truly don't know. The one I have from essential worked miracle wonders. I only suspect it will work with other USB C dongles with a dac chip. Man, i am digging this phones audio improvement. I am like WOW.
Check it out with something like Viper installed and disable Dolby for a little while to see if that also improves the sound. I use an aux cord to play music in my car as well the Viper HiFi Magisk module on top of tweaking some of my head unit settings, and it puts out some of the best sound for music. Can get my old 2004 Carolla to sound like it has a 10-11" sub in it just from the stock stereos and a Pioneer head unit ;p
Not really that big of a surprise, considering that my old Moto E4 would use a pair of USB-A headphones plugged into a OTG adapter. Feel free to call me out, but isn't the USB-C headphone dongle just getting talked to by the phone like a USB sound card?
Most newer (and some older) phones are all capable of USB audio routing. Just take a look in developer options to see some settings.