How easy is it to regain root with s-off - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Just wondering
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depends on what you mean. Are you talking about if you lose root and have s-off or are you talking about a fresh phone? If you lose root s-off will help because you don't have to go through unlocking the BL so it will speed up the process.
If you are talking about if you just got a locked phone will it help. Right now the process to gain s-off starts after you have unlocked your BL and are rooted, so as it stands right now the process takes about the same. I too have wondered if they can make a faster root now that they have achieved s-off but not sure if that is possible because I don't understand all the coding behind the scenes

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It's very easy as long as you follow the instructions

s-off removes all security on your phone. Once you do that, you can never permanently lose root.

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[Q] Is there a root method on desire s while s-on?

I'm not interested in changing ROM on desire s.
Things I care more is that whether i could use apps that need root permission.
I am informed that only way to turn S-ON to S-OFF is XTC Clip.
so i'm wondering if there is a way to root without S-OFF?
Thanks.
Only temp root with Gingerbreak currently
sonikz said:
Only temp root with Gingerbreak currently
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I searched Gingerbreak
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045118&highlight=gingerbreak
saying worked only on S-OFF
It does work on S-ON also, but its only temporary and its usefulness is limited
sonikz said:
It does work on S-ON also, but its only temporary and its usefulness is limited
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I want to ask can i use MarketEnabler with that temp. root? And does it affects devices warranty?
no u can't cause market is force closing then and the effect of marketenabler will be killed after a reboot
Don't try Gingerbreak if you're on S-ON. It's useless altogether. Everything was force closing.
We'll have to wait what HTC's workaround on lock bootloaders or AlphaRevs has in store.
Temp root access has been achieved by some but seems to be unstable or at least unreliable.
Agree with previous poster, AlpharevX looks promising for a way forward to achieving superuser status & maybe a permanent software S-Off.
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"Tampered" on HTC one x?

Hey guys. New on the forum and unfortunately a noob. I saw recently 2.20 was open to be rooted for this phone. The instructions are hard enough to follow, let alone on a macbook pro. I got as far as getting the token from htcdev.com. couldn't get any further. I decided to give up as the topic is still fresh and there isn't much Mac love regarding the new root method. So now since I got that far I am still on the stock ROM but now my phone has the "tampered" logo on the boot loader screen. Is there a way I can rid this of the phone? I don't care about rooting or unlock anymore. Just want to get rid of it because the phone is still new and I still want the warranty. Thanks a bunch guys for the help.
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RUU.
Even running a RUU it'll still say tampered I think.. the whole hboot thing isn't reversible till s-off..
For example, if you unlock your bootloader, and take any measure what so ever your hboot will even say re-locked
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InflatedTitan said:
Even running a RUU it'll still say tampered I think.. the whole hboot thing isn't reversible till s-off..
For example, if you unlock your bootloader, and take any measure what so ever your hboot will even say re-locked
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Tampered will go away after an ruu. It will always say relocked until s-off
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Some questions on root/unroot

Hi guys I have some questions on root/Unroot/S-off for HTC one s
I have had a evo3D (still do ) and dev a little to so here are my questions
1.Root
I looked at the all in one thread I saw to the Aio tool kit by hasoon200 and the standard root by torxx
my current stock setup
Htc vile not cs
Stock Ics sense 4.1
Hboot 1.40
Radio 1.08
And T-Mobil
2.Unroot
I have not seen one of these Unroot
Threads like in 3D land So how would o go about going from s-off back to s-on and have no super cid
Also I might sim unlock if I can but only if could go back
Thanks guys I hope to bring some of my development here to the one s
Any one?
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Rooting is pretty straight forward, doesn't take much effort. I prefer to do it through the console and not the AIO tool, no offense to the author. You can check my signature for the tutorial for rooting. As far as unrooting, CM 10 based roms as you may know have settings to restrict root access to ADB or apps, or both. I know in SuperSU, I think you can unroot, and also in SuperUser Elite as well if I'm not mistaken.
You can go from S-Off to S-On with this turtorial, and sim unlock with this one. According to this post sim unlock is persistent even after flashing new roms and factory resets. But now that we have S-Off, I imagine there has to be a way to relock the phone.
impostle said:
As far as unrooting, CM 10 based roms as you may know have settings to restrict root access to ADB or apps, or both. I know in SuperSU, I think you can unroot, and also in SuperUser Elite as well if I'm not mistaken.
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Is there a way to relock bootloader
And back to stock from ruu or firmware zip
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Yeah, you can relock the bootloader with a fastboot command. An RUU will take you back to stock.
impostle said:
Yeah, you can relock the bootloader with a fastboot command. An RUU will take you back to stock.
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Thanks for all the help going all the way s-off tonight and maybe start making some roms
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[Q] Restoring HTC inspire to factory

Over the weekend i rooted the inspire my gf has. Unfortunately i missed the ace kit by 1 month. I tired using the easy root kit and it would not do anything besides unlock the bootloader. I want to try and perform the s-off method in order to allow my gf to add her own roms without me having to use teamviewer.
so i have two questions. For those that have tried the manual s-off method, is there a way to go back in case things get stuck? What would i need to do to prep the phone? Restore the original rom?
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-SubSonic- said:
Over the weekend i rooted the inspire my gf has. Unfortunately i missed the ace kit by 1 month. I tired using the easy root kit and it would not do anything besides unlock the bootloader. I want to try and perform the s-off method in order to allow my gf to add her own roms without me having to use teamviewer.
so i have two questions. For those that have tried the manual s-off method, is there a way to go back in case things get stuck? What would i need to do to prep the phone? Restore the original rom?
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If you follow one of the guides here properly there shouldnt be any issue. There is a way to restore any problem on a device to factory stock settings using a RUU.exe. There is a easy way of telling which you are, just boot into bootloader and see what it says as the first line.
Personally I believe the best way to s-off is using the HTC Super tool v3 it roots, s-off , SIM Unlock etc.

(Solved)Stuck in Bootloader/Relocked

I am currently stuck in the bootloader. To make matters worse, I relocked to RUU and am stuck at Sending with that. I am Super CID which I think is the problem. To make matters even worse, I no longer have my unlock_code.bin file.
Is there any hope for my phone? Also, the RUU process has completely wiped my phone. Thanks for any input in advance. I have searched and searched for an answer but haven't found anything useful.
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You haven't given enough information, what are you trying to do? You could just unlock your bootloader again.
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timmaaa said:
You haven't given enough information, what are you trying to do? You could just unlock your bootloader again.
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How can I unlock my bootloader without the unlock_code.bin file? Update. I reverted back to original CID CWS__001 and am going to try and run the RUU again.
I tried to s-off my wife's phone and it screwed it up somehow (rather I screwed it up). I simply wanted to take it back to stock to start fresh and now I am stuck in the bootloader with no Rom and a locked phone.
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How can I unlock my bootloader without the unlock_code.bin file? Update. I reverted back to original CID CWS__001 and am going to try and run the RUU again.
I tried to s-off my wife's phone and it screwed it up somehow (rather I screwed it up). I simply wanted to take it back to stock to start fresh and now I am stuck in the bootloader with no Rom and a locked phone.
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You would just go to htcdev like you did in the first place and go through the unlock process again. But, you can't do that now because you just changed the CID back to CWS__001 which is blocked by htcdev. And I'm guessing you didn't succeed in getting s-off? If so, you've just used the one and only time you can change the CID without s-off to change it to a CID which is blocked, which means you have no way to unlock the bootloader again, ever. I hope your original plan was to stay stock because that's your only option now. Maybe that's for the best though, you seem to be doing things without fully comprehending what you're doing or the potential catastrophic results.
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timmaaa said:
You would just go to htcdev like you did in the first place and go through the unlock process again. But, you can't do that now because you just changed the CID back to CWS__001 which is blocked by htcdev. And I'm guessing you didn't succeed in getting s-off? If so, you've just used the one and only time you can change the CID without s-off to change it to a CID which is blocked, which means you have no way to unlock the bootloader again, ever. I hope your original plan was to stay stock because that's your only option now. Maybe that's for the best though, you seem to be doing things without fully comprehending what you're doing or the potential catastrophic results.
Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. Can I at least ruu the 3.18 now and get back to stock... That's better than bootloader I suppose. By the way, how could I have unlocked in the state I was in?
Ruu is stuck at sending for some time now.
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//JavaJ said:
timmaaa said:
You would just go to htcdev like you did in the first place and go through the unlock process again. But, you can't do that now because you just changed the CID back to CWS__001 which is blocked by htcdev. And I'm guessing you didn't succeed in getting s-off? If so, you've just used the one and only time you can change the CID without s-off to change it to a CID which is blocked, which means you have no way to unlock the bootloader again, ever. I hope your original plan was to stay stock because that's your only option now. Maybe that's for the best though, you seem to be doing things without fully comprehending what you're doing or the potential catastrophic results.
Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. Can I at least ruu the 3.18 now and get back to stock... That's better than bootloader I suppose. By the way, how could I have unlocked in the state I was in?
Ruu is stuck at sending for some time now.
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If you have a locked bootloader and the correct CID there should be no harm in running the RUU. The unlock process (from memory, I could be wrong) doesn't require the phone to be booted into an os, it's all taken care of while the phone is in bootloader. That's kinda irrelevant now anyway as it isn't possible anymore.
Are you using the usb cable that came with the phone? You can try using a different usb port, usually the ones on the back of the pc tower are the best.
May I ask, how exactly do you think the s-off process screwed up the phone? It either succeeds or fails, and there should be no serious repercussions from either.
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Ever since I ran the s off process I couldn't copy anything to the sd card, I.e. to flash a new Rom. I feel like an idiot for changing the cid back now. I ran the zip for s off and I waited an hour or so and it never went throufh
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//JavaJ said:
Ever since I ran the s off process I couldn't copy anything to the sd card, I.e. to flash a new Rom. I feel like an idiot for changing the cid back now. I ran the zip for s off and I waited an hour or so and it never went throufh
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It sounds to me like you might have actually done a factory reset from bootloader which corrupts the sd card. The s-off process has no ability to change the sd card. Did you have HTC drivers and adb/fastboot all installed when you tried the s-off process? That's probably why it didn't work.
The corrupted sd card might be why the RUU won't work, can you still get into TWRP recovery? If so, you can use the mount menu to mount it to your pc and format it. If not, you might seriously be in trouble. The combination of these things you've done have possibly rendered the device completely useless. If this if the case, I hope this has been a learning experience. It's really important to have a firm understanding of what you're doing (and the results and potential risks) when modifying your device. It looks like you've rushed into all this without understanding it all properly.
In any case, let me know about what I asked about above and I'll do my best to see if there's a way out of this.
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timmaaa said:
It sounds to me like you might have actually done a factory reset from bootloader which corrupts the sd card. The s-off process has no ability to change the sd card. Did you have HTC drivers and adb/fastboot all installed when you tried the s-off process? That's probably why it didn't work.
The corrupted sd card might be why the RUU won't work, can you still get into TWRP recovery? If so, you can use the mount menu to mount it to your pc and format it. If not, you might seriously be in trouble. The combination of these things you've done have possibly rendered the device completely useless. If this if the case, I hope this has been a learning experience. It's really important to have a firm understanding of what you're doing (and the results and potential risks) when modifying your device. It looks like you've rushed into all this without understanding it all properly.
In any case, let me know about what I asked about above and I'll do my best to see if there's a way out of this.
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Took your advice about the usb port. Switched it to the back and the ruu worked. Will I be able to run the root exploit again? Yes, this definitely has been a learning experience. Coupled with my lack of sleep and overall frustration I made some bad moves. Thanks for your patience and help though. Much appreciated.
And no, I could not get back into recovery after I relocked it. It would send me right back to the bootloader. Also, I did do a factory reset from the bootloader. Believe me, taking mental notes all the way here.
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Now that you have a working os, you could be able to use the exploit again to unlock the bootloader etc. Just take it slowly though, do some reading so you gain a bit of knowledge. And if you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask.
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Unlocked and rooted. Again. Thanks for your help. Leary of trying to s off again though
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Very glad to see you got it all working again. S-off might seem daunting now, but it's a pretty straight forward process as long as you follow the instructions exactly.
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timmaaa said:
Very glad to see you got it all working again. S-off might seem daunting now, but it's a pretty straight forward process as long as you follow the instructions exactly.
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Yes, I have done it before, on my One X. Not quite sure what went wrong. Maybe the issue with my wife's phone was preexisting and reared it's ugly head in the process. I have been rooting and nodding phones for years. I am not a complete noob. I am experienced in java programming and have created many interesting applications for my phone. Perhaps I should take my java knowledge and automate my s off experience.
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If you're looking for an automated method, I saw this just before. It's brand new but it looks to have some great tools incorporated. I prefer the manual method myself but many people will love this.
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timmaaa said:
If you're looking for an automated method, I saw this just before. It's brand new but it looks to have some great tools incorporated. I prefer the manual method myself but many people will love this.
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Very nice found Tim.....:thumbup:
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timmaaa said:
If you're looking for an automated method, I saw this just before. It's brand new but it looks to have some great tools incorporated. I prefer the manual method myself but many people will love this.
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Appreciate it. I don't mind working from the command line either. Could my trouble have had anything to do with being plugged into the front of the cpu, for s off that is? Was getting stuck at sending with the flash zip command.
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//JavaJ said:
Appreciate it. I don't mind working from the command line either. Could my trouble have had anything to do with being plugged into the front of the cpu, for s off that is? Was getting stuck at sending with the flash zip command.
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Yeah that was probably it, try again using the rear port and it'll probably be fine.
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timmaaa said:
Yeah that was probably it, try again using the rear port and it'll probably be fine.
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Just wanted to let you know that I went through s off and all went well. Only thing I can think was the problem was that either there was a pre existing corruption on the phone, or the usb port I was using.
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It could have been anything. It's becoming more and more apparent that different things halt the process for different users. It makes it really difficult to troubleshoot when helping someone through the process. In the end you got it though which is great.
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