I used the ROM from here. (LG Optimus T (P509): January 8: Build 7/Final)
I have no Google Play store icon anywhere. I see the Google Play process running in the background.
but have no way to get it to show up. This on a fresh ROM, all User data, Cache, and all that cleared.
Any help on this would be nice.
Would of asked on that post where I got the ROM. but I don't have the patience to or any thoughts about other post to make to meet the requirements to even post there.
Tried without flashing the Google Apps and with the google apps they list there.
Flashing Google Apps just crashes things like the browser. it wont even open.
Not flashing Google Apps I can use the browser just fine. but I still see "Google Play Services" Running. So that tells me google play is installed.
So don't have to flash it. but cant open it even if i did or not. no Icon anywhere no matter what I try. I been wanting to use CM10. but this issue keeps me going back to CM7.
Thanks in advance to the person with the answer.
TroyFoxxin said:
I used the ROM from here. (LG Optimus T (P509): January 8: Build 7/Final)
I have no Google Play store icon anywhere. I see the Google Play process running in the background.
but have no way to get it to show up. This on a fresh ROM, all User data, Cache, and all that cleared.
Any help on this would be nice.
Would of asked on that post where I got the ROM. but I don't have the patience to or any thoughts about other post to make to meet the requirements to even post there.
Tried without flashing the Google Apps and with the google apps they list there.
Flashing Google Apps just crashes things like the browser. it wont even open.
Not flashing Google Apps I can use the browser just fine. but I still see "Google Play Services" Running. So that tells me google play is installed.
So don't have to flash it. but cant open it even if i did or not. no Icon anywhere no matter what I try. I been wanting to use CM10. but this issue keeps me going back to CM7.
Thanks in advance to the person with the answer.
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Are you sure you are using the right GApps package? That's Rasheds ROM you're referring to using. Build 7 is Android 4.1.2. Check this link here. And some of the problems you may be experiencing could be due to a faulty installation because of limited system space. You may want to review the LG Optimus One FAQ too.
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Are you sure you are using the right GApps package? That's Rasheds ROM you're referring to using. Build 7 is Android 4.1.2. Check this link here. And some of the problems you may be experiencing could be due to a faulty installation because of limited system space. You may want to review the LG Optimus One FAQ too.
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There is more then enough internal space. (150MB Free after Gapps Flashed).
I tried again with the Gapps for 4.1.2. At the time my post I re flashed the ROM but left it out. I didn't flash it.
When I tried again. I got the Updating Android. but still no Play Store Icon. However it did not break my home or other buttons.
and browser still working. but again. no Play Store icon.
I checked the FAQ. Currently i see nothing there to give hints. I got more then enough free space. I've flashed ROMs on this phone dozens of times so I know the whole wiping of cache and data and all that between each ROM.
TroyFoxxin said:
There is more then enough internal space. (150MB Free after Gapps Flashed).
I tried again with the Gapps for 4.1.2. At the time my post I re flashed the ROM but left it out. I didn't flash it.
When I tried again. I got the Updating Android. but still no Play Store Icon. However it did not break my home or other buttons.
and browser still working. but again. no Play Store icon.
I checked the FAQ. Currently i see nothing there to give hints. I got more then enough free space. I've flashed ROMs on this phone dozens of times so I know the whole wiping of cache and data and all that between each ROM.
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You have to trim the Rom, there's not enough SYSTEM space for the Rom and Gapps..this has been discussed time and time again on rashed thread(cm10)..There's a tool ( Oone Rom editor that will help you do this) This is why you have the bugs that your facing.
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You have to trim the Rom, there's not enough SYSTEM space for the Rom and Gapps..this has been discussed time and time again on rashed thread(cm10)..There's a tool ( Oone Rom editor that will help you do this) This is why you have the bugs that your facing.
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I used that program already. looking at all that it would only show.
the math dont even come to half of what the phone memory is.
TroyFoxxin said:
I used that program already. looking at all that it would only show.
the math dont even come to half of what the phone memory is.
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The system partition has nothing to do with the devices memory. These devices have a 190 MB system partition, this is where Android gets installed. What you are referring to is the user data partition which is 200 MB, while the device has 415 MB+- RAM ( memory ). Unless you are using Android 4.2.2, the only way to see how much space is on the system partition is with a third party app, with ADB, or with a Terminal Emulator app on the device. The math isn't adding up because you don't understand it, that's why I pointed you to the FAQ thread.
I wrote OOne ROM Editor. I haven't put hundreds, yes hundreds, of hours in to it's development just for general pleasure. It was written for a specific purpose, to trim ICS and newer ROMs for devices with small or limited system partitions.
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The system partition has nothing to do with the devices memory. These devices have a 190 MB system partition, this is where Android gets installed. What you are referring to is the user data partition which is 200 MB, while the device has 415 MB+- RAM ( memory ). Unless you are using Android 4.2.2, the only way to see how much space is on the system partition is with a third party app, with ADB, or with a Terminal Emulator app on the device. The math isn't adding up because you don't understand it, that's why I pointed you to the FAQ thread.
I wrote OOne ROM Editor. I haven't put hundreds, yes hundreds, of hours in to it's development just for general pleasure. It was written for a specific purpose, to trim ICS and newer ROMs for devices with small or limited system partitions.
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I dont know what to try to trim with that program. i dont know what half them apps do.
Like Exchange2.apk. I don't know what that is. Which are some of the key things i can trim?
Also, Telling me how many hours you put into a program and that i dont understand something not going to be on my good side. So i missed something, big deal. I just got off a anxiety attack. and i was needing was a simple answer. doing a search for "LG P509 No Playstore Icon" was getting me no where and i didnt want to have to search page by page of the 487 pages of the ROMs post to find clues.
TroyFoxxin said:
I dont know what to try to trim with that program. i dont know what half them apps do.
Like Exchange2.apk. I don't know what that is. Which are some of the key things i can trim?
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The help docs in OOne ROM Editor's thread list some of the known files that can be removed from and or moved around, ie; converted to user app, in the ROM.
shinobisoft said:
The help docs in OOne ROM Editor's thread list some of the known files that can be removed from and or moved around, ie; converted to user app, in the ROM.
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just never mind. i dont need the stress right now, ill just stay with CM7.
Every time i try to Build the ROM and put it on the phone CWM just says its bad.
TroyFoxxin said:
just never mind. i dont need the stress right now, ill just stay with CM7.
Every time i try to Build the ROM and put it on the phone CWM just says its bad.
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Are you getting an "assert() failed" message? If you are using CWM 5.0.2.7 Touch, it will only allow you to install P500 ROMs. OOne ROM Editor has the ability to remove the "assert()" statement from the ROM's updater-script to prevent that particular error from happening. Before building the ROM, go to the Tools->Build submenu and select the Build Options command. Check the checkbox for "Remove updater-script 'assert()' statement". Then build the ROM.
And stress... You call editing a ROM stress? Try writing the code for OOne ROM Editor Or better yet, play with live electricity :silly: - oh wait I do that already since I am an electrician... DOn't get frustrated by it. Sit back relax and soak in some of the knowledge around here.
shinobisoft said:
Are you getting an "assert() failed" message? If you are using CWM 5.0.2.7 Touch, it will only allow you to install P500 ROMs. OOne ROM Editor has the ability to remove the "assert()" statement from the ROM's updater-script to prevent that particular error from happening. Before building the ROM, go to the Tools->Build submenu and select the Build Options command. Check the checkbox for "Remove updater-script 'assert()' statement". Then build the ROM.
And stress... You call editing a ROM stress? Try writing the code for OOne ROM Editor Or better yet, play with live electricity :silly: - oh wait I do that already since I am an electrician... DOn't get frustrated by it. Sit back relax and soak in some of the knowledge around here.
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Again bad, day. had a Anxiety attack. haven't slept. I havent played with Android as often as other things. I am also a Electronic person. Soldering Caps and so on on motherboards all the time. So please dont talk like that to people you dont know. they may have plenty of knowledge. but maybe having whats called a short fuse kinda day.
Also I did do "Remove updater-script 'assert()' statement". And i get no error from OOne ROM Editor it was in CWM it would just say it was bad, or say nothing at it would just restart CWM. Ill try again when Im better. Right now my phone has CWM 5.0.2.0, So ill change that as well when i try again.
but right im turning in for the night.
TroyFoxxin said:
Again bad, day. had a Anxiety attack. haven't slept. I havent played with Android as often as other things. I am also a Electronic person. Soldering Caps and so on on motherboards all the time. So please dont talk like that to people you dont know. they may have plenty of knowledge. but maybe having whats called a short fuse kinda day.
Also I did do "Remove updater-script 'assert()' statement". And i get no error from OOne ROM Editor it was in CWM it would just say it was bad, or say nothing at it would just restart CWM. Ill try again when Im better. Right now my phone has CWM 5.0.2.0, So ill change that as well when i try again.
but right im turning in for the night.
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Sorry you're having a bad day. Rest assured, if I was talking down to you, there wouldn't be any smilies. I was just expressing that you weren't the only one out there with stress in their life, and some of us have loads of it. On that note, I'm not one of the many teenagers around here. So I'm not talking down to you, but out of experience. My teenage years were gone 23 years ago. Apparently it was take outta context, Sorry.
I think the issue I mentioned for CWM 5.0.2.7 is a shared issue with CWM 5.0.2.0, but I can't say for sure as I don't recall ever using CWM 5.0.2.0. I wasn't suggesting changing to the CWM I mentioned, was asking if that was the one you were/are using, which you've now stated you aren't. There error I was referring to would have been from CWM after flashing or trying to flash a ROM.
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Sorry you're having a bad day. Rest assured, if I was talking down to you, there wouldn't be any smilies. I was just expressing that you weren't the only one out there with stress in their life, and some of us have loads of it. On that note, I'm not one of the many teenagers around here. So I'm not talking down to you, but out of experience. My teenage years were gone 23 years ago. Apparently it was take outta context, Sorry.
I think the issue I mentioned for CWM 5.0.2.7 is a shared issue with CWM 5.0.2.0, but I can't say for sure as I don't recall ever using CWM 5.0.2.0. I wasn't suggesting changing to the CWM I mentioned, was asking if that was the one you were/are using, which you've now stated you aren't. There error I was referring to would have been from CWM after flashing or trying to flash a ROM.
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Can that program add apps? If so or not. maybe I can edit the zip directly. but is it possible to port the old music player in Gingerbread to JB. I don't like Apollo. or would it just be better to remove Apollo and find something I like in Play store when i make this work?
And should i try to use CWM 5.0.2.7 instead, and try again?
EDIT: Says I have the latest according to this.
EDIT 2: just ROM Manger being a butt. going to the site directly. I see CWM 5.0.2.7 as the latest.
TroyFoxxin said:
Can that program add apps? If so or not. maybe I can edit the zip directly. but is it possible to port the old music player in Gingerbread to JB. I don't like Apollo. or would it just be better to remove Apollo and find something I like in Play store when i make this work?
And should i try to use CWM 5.0.2.7 instead, and try again?
EDIT: Says I have the latest according to this.
EDIT 2: just ROM Manger being a butt. going to the site directly. I see CWM 5.0.2.7 as the latest.
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Yes apps can be added, but only as User Apps. Select "User Apps" in the treeview on the left. Then right click on the listview on the right and select the "Add apps" command item. A file dialog will appear. Multiple file selection is allowed.
You can remove Apollo. I prefer Google Play Music myself.
For your recovery. CWM 5.0.2.7 will only allow installing P500 ROMs. I do prefer the touch version of CWM, and since P509 is identical to P500, it's really not an issue other than baseband which is solved with a flashable patch. I really cannot recommend a recovery as we all have different likes/dislikes/usage patterns. I would recommend not using ROM Manager to install a recovery. It's been known to be faulty with our devices. Theres always ADB and fastboot or another one of my tools, Android Flash Recovery. There are several other apps around XDA that can do this also.
shinobisoft said:
Yes apps can be added, but only as User Apps. Select "User Apps" in the treeview on the left. Then right click on the listview on the right and select the "Add apps" command item. A file dialog will appear. Multiple file selection is allowed.
You can remove Apollo. I prefer Google Play Music myself.
For your recovery. CWM 5.0.2.7 will only allow installing P500 ROMs. I do prefer the touch version of CWM, and since P509 is identical to P500, it's really not an issue other than baseband which is solved with a flashable patch. I really cannot recommend a recovery as we all have different likes/dislikes/usage patterns. I would recommend not using ROM Manager to install a recovery. It's been known to be faulty with our devices. Theres always ADB and fastboot or another one of my tools, Android Flash Recovery. There are several other apps around XDA that can do this also.
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Ill just leave it be then. Its always worked for me. if there was a problem it was with the ROM.
I haven't tried Google Play music before. but is it possible to port the music player from Gingerbread to JB?
but I'm getting the jiffs of that program. I just need to play with it. some things I converted to User apps never loaded at all.
So I need to play with what I can put in User data that will still work. but none the less i been getting the builds to install.
And even show Play Store again.
Just need to mess with what works and dont in User data.
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I tried to Make LatinIME Smaller and convert it to Userdata in the build options but every build has no keyboard support.
TroyFoxxin said:
Ill just leave it be then. Its always worked for me. if there was a problem it was with the ROM.
I haven't tried Google Play music before. but is it possible to port the music player from Gingerbread to JB?
but I'm getting the jiffs of that program. I just need to play with it. some things I converted to User apps never loaded at all.
So I need to play with what I can put in User data that will still work. but none the less i been getting the builds to install.
And even show Play Store again.
Just need to mess with what works and dont in User data.
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I tried to Make LatinIME Smaller and convert it to Userdata in the build options but every build has no keyboard support.
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Is there anyway you can post the updater-scipt from one of the builds you've made with OOne ROM Editor where you've modified the LatinIME.apk and specified to install as a User App? The updater-script is located in the /META-INF/com/google/android folder in the output/build ROM.
One thing to note tho, build options are reset after every build.
shinobisoft said:
Is there anyway you can post the updater-scipt from one of the builds you've made with OOne ROM Editor where you've modified the LatinIME.apk and specified to install as a User App? The updater-script is located in the /META-INF/com/google/android folder in the output/build ROM.
One thing to note tho, build options are reset after every build.
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I noticed that it resets everytime. so i been ontop of that. I check both boxes in the build options before I build them.
I did read also not to delete LatinME.apk. and use the editor. But i know the LatinME is a nice chunk of Memory.
So to make it smaller and usable in User apps is plus to make the important things I need working.
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I haven't been saving the bad builds. that attachment was for a new build I haven't tried yet.
and I just did. now keyboard working. But I think that build I didn't tell it to put Latin in User apps that time.
But I did use the editor. So I don't know.
TroyFoxxin said:
I noticed that it resets everytime. so i been ontop of that. I check both boxes in the build options before I build them.
I did read also not to delete LatinME.apk. and use the editor. But i know the LatinME is a nice chunk of Memory.
So to make it smaller and usable in User apps is plus to make the important things I need working.
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I haven't been saving the bad builds. that attachment was for a new build I haven't tried yet.
and I just did. now keyboard working. But I think that build I didn't tell it to put Latin in User apps that time.
But I did use the editor. So I don't know.
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I can't tell what you installed as user apps from the updater-script, but there were apps installed to the user ( data ) partition. And the assert() statement is missing from the script, so I know that option was checked in the Build Options.
The reason I say not to manually move it is because the LatinIME Keyboard Editor should be used to edit it's dictionaries. Once you press the "Apply" button in the LatinIME Keyboard Editor, it removes the LatinIME.apk from System Apps and actually puts it in the apps Recycle Bin. I use the list of files in the Recycle Bin as a filter of files not to include when building the ROM. LatinIME Keyboard Editor also looks in the Recycle Bin for the LatinIME.apk if it can't find it in System Apps but it assumes that it's deleted so it won't do anything.
I am actually working on OOne ROM Editor right now. So you can be on the lookout for an update
shinobisoft said:
I can't tell what you installed as user apps from the updater-script, but there were apps installed to the user ( data ) partition. And the assert() statement is missing from the script, so I know that option was checked in the Build Options.
The reason I say not to manually move it is because the LatinIME Keyboard Editor should be used to edit it's dictionaries. Once you press the "Apply" button in the LatinIME Keyboard Editor, it removes the LatinIME.apk from System Apps and actually puts it in the apps Recycle Bin. I use the list of files in the Recycle Bin as a filter of files not to include when building the ROM. LatinIME Keyboard Editor also looks in the Recycle Bin for the LatinIME.apk if it can't find it in System Apps but it assumes that it's deleted so it won't do anything.
I am actually working on OOne ROM Editor right now. So you can be on the lookout for an update
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Well I got everything to work. Keyboard, Play Store, etc. But not sure ill stick with trying to put JB on the phone.
Its really slow. Unless more free space on the system partition would allow it to run faster.
Would your OOne ROOM Editor work on Any rom Like a CM7 Rom? or just JB ones? if not would you consider support for other roms?
I haven't tried, but figure I would ask.
TroyFoxxin said:
Well I got everything to work. Keyboard, Play Store, etc. But not sure ill stick with trying to put JB on the phone.
Its really slow. Unless more free space on the system partition would allow it to run faster.
Would your OOne ROOM Editor work on Any rom Like a CM7 Rom? or just JB ones? if not would you consider support for other roms?
I haven't tried, but figure I would ask.
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OOne ROM Editor is just for ICS and JB ROMs. It's really not needed for Android versions prior to 4.0.
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Android 2.0.1-r5v0.6
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After spending some time and looking over this rom and ways to make it work with out any legal issues. The most viable option was to build something like what cynanogen has built. His process takes the proprietary bits (all google apps including sync) and copies them off onto the SD card before doing a update. After the update it copies them back to the newly installed rom. This method basically does a automated backup/restore of your licensed applications. I can't do this for several reasons including that we are supposed to be coming from a 1.5 OS to a 2.0.1, which isn't compatible with the older application set.
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I am sorry to have to do this but we are now having more then just a small handful goofing with this ROM and I need to take this offline while I inspect each of the parts and make sure all licensing is in order since its a bit more then the google Opensource framework. I know that several other ROM creators have not paid much attention to it as I am going to now but I really don't want to upset any IP holders like what happened to Cynanogen a couple months back.
I will put it back up but I want to make sure that I am totally covered and don't have any issues.
version 0.6: download (offline)
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-fixed wifi thanks to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593620
-Now starts up with Android stock keyboard. (No longer needs HTC_IME.apk for second keyboard)
A few have asked for this ROM so I thought I would put it up here for anyone that wants to contribute to or take from it.
This ROM is only compatible with the Sprint CDMA HTC Hero. It is not finished and still requires some work but its good enough for my day to day use and I am sure others may find the same potential.
This ROM is vanilla android and what it takes to actually get it running on a CDMA phone. It is built off of this GSM variant. I am going to try and work to remove the google bits so that you can use Cynanogens method of extracting your own and then doing a follow up update to install them. My efforts for this is not to build a better rom but to build a cleaner base that has limited to no proprietary IP.
Credits to all on this forum how have helped or contributed in any way to building the roms that are here. I would point out names but there are to many to name. I am positive that anyone that pays attention to this forum will know who you are. I used many parts of these ROM's and many others on XDA to build this one.
This is my first ROM and was primarily made for myself to help me learn how to create a custom ROM.
Here is the link to my blog where I originally posted about this and a video of it booting.
Here is the Youtube video of it booting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRTh-rXKe-E
*Warning*: Don't attempt to flash this ROM onto anything else unless you know what you are doing! I am not responsible for any device malfunctions or "Bricks".
Notes on Installing:
- Run a Nandroid backup before you do anything.
- Make sure you do a full wipe first. (Sorry )
- Run the update zip found * Version 0.6 *(offline) from the recovery console.
To get the HTC keyboard installed: (Now Optional as of Version 0.6)
- Follow the instructions here.
Things that don't work:
- Gallery some times has issues.
- Camera
- Wired or Wireless Tethering (Now Testing)
- Orientation
- Trackball light
- Trackball click (Rolling and moving are fine)
- (Let me know if something else needs to go here.)
Possible issues that are not repeatable:
- speaker not working on out bound calls? I made 30 test calls to my home phone and was not able to replicate this issue. Needs to be verified (see here)
Awesome! Thanks! disregard my PM lol.. Great timing.
VoXHTC said:
Awesome! Thanks! disregard my PM lol.. Great timing.
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LOL I was just getting to replying to you!
im trying it now nice work
Let me know if any of you have issues flashing. I still have it all right here in front of me if I need to make a change.
FYI: The first boot takes for ever as it registers all the APKS.
i just get the HTC_IME fource close i installed the one from the site like you said and installed it and i get this
thorracing1 said:
i just get the HTC_IME fource close i installed the one from the site like you said and installed it and i get this
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So you installed both the HTC_IME.apk and the Clicker.apk? Did you do a adb push or a adb install?
Try and go into settings --> Language & Keyboard --> Touch Input --> Text Input?
I think its a force of habit with out really thinking to go there and calibrate but just going there may help.
Try that and let me know.
i just flashed it and pushed the keyboard and calibration app through adb and all is well. its working awesome. Thanks!!!
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i just flashed it and pushed the keyboard and calibration app through adb and all is well. its working awesome. Thanks!!!
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Awesome, keep the feed back coming as you have it!
please take note orientation doesnt work. please put in first post.
otherwise, great work!
should i do adb install or adb push?
blankd3ckskat3r said:
please take note orientation doesnt work. please put in first post.
otherwise, great work!
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Got it listed now, that one bugs me... Must have been to worried about building this to remember it.
BTW thanks for the feed back!
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should i do adb install or adb push?
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I would do an install or transfer them to your SD card and grab a app like Astro from the market to install them. Don't worry we will get you worked out.
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Got it listed now, that one bugs me... Must have been to worried about building this to remember it.
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lol well its a common problem, cant wait for a fix. really like what you did with this build
dchadwick said:
I would do an install or transfer them to your SD card and grab a app like Astro from the market to install them. Don't worry we will get you worked out.
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Not able to get a working Keyboard Now I'm stuck in a boot loop. Tried installing through droid explorer.. no go.. tried installing from astro ..no go.. now it loads lockscreen.. dead... reboot..rinse and repeat
removed SDcard.. boots now trying to push.. but where do I push the apk files to?
blankd3ckskat3r said:
lol well its a common problem, cant wait for a fix. really like what you did with this build
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Thanks, but I really can't take to much credit. Its a "Pick and Pull" from several ROMs. This one actually came from our GSM Brothers and then I used the CDMA tricks in this form to make it work.
I keep watching and playing with the Google Nexus Dumps. I would really like to get one of them up and running.
Based on your posting and replies I assume you are re-using the 2.6.27 kernel like the other roms?
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Not able to get a working Keyboard Now I'm stuck in a boot loop. Tried installing through droid explorer.. no go.. tried installing from astro ..no go.. now it loads lockscreen.. dead... reboot..rinse and repeat
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Wow thats allot in a little space.
What I gather is that it originally booted, then after trying to install via droid explorer and then astro it now just dies after the lockscreen.
I am not sure where to start. I would just say to do a full wipe, then a clean install. Then if you have the sdk try the ADB install method as Cynanogen's post talks about.
I am working on trying to get the stock Android keyboard to work. If we can figure out that then we don't have to mess with the HTC one.
ok i got it i just adb pushed them to system/app works great
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Based on your posting and replies I assume you are re-using the 2.6.27 kernel like the other roms?
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Yeah, actually some of your work if I remember correctly, thats why its got the same issues. My first goal when I built this for my self was to get past the blasted google bits sync loop. The more I worked into it the more I moved on to the 2.0.1 build with some of your stuff in it.
Your welcome to anything I have learned, its really not my work.
Hi, I am a relative newbie to ROM flashing and the like. Additionally I dont have a very deep computer knowledge base. I have rooted my Samsung Captivate and have flashed a ROM (which flashed properly, but didn't quite work). I have three questions about ROM usage and such:
1. I know kernels basically add aspects to the ROM you are running, but when should you flash these? How do you flash them (same process as with ROMs? do you just do it over-top of the Rom you currently have loaded? etc...)
2. If a newer version of the ROM you have running comes out, do you have to start over and completely wipe the device over again and do the whole process from start, or can you load a newer version of your current ROM over the one you have?
3. I have been hearing/reading about some problems with the Android Market disappearing on certain ROMs when the market updates, how can i avoid this/fix this?
Thanks. Sorry the basic/stupid questions.
1. Yes
2. There are WIPE versions and NO WIPE version. Usually you can use the NO WIPE version and keep everything. But sometimes if the roms are too different you get problems and errors, then it is recommended to flash a WIPE version.
3. Hm did not experience this yet, but there are fixes somewhere .
Whats up... No question is a stupid one buddy.... (Sometimes )
To answer your first question about kernels. Flashing kernels aren't a must. You don't have to flash them really, unless there is a need. Kernels for the most part can often change the way Android handles stuff like memory management, battery resources and even multitasking. They change (tweak) the way the Android OS itself interacts with the phones hardware. That's all a kernel is really. So read up on them before flashing them because each has their advantages and disadvantages. For example, the kernel I use gives me a good RAM boost and much better battery life but it suffers on the multitasking side and I have to do other stuff to compensate for that. That's how it is. As far as flashing them is concerned. That depends. Usually, you just flash them through recovery (Like a ROM) but I would suggest you follow the instructions they give you (if it exists).
Your second question is simple. Just follow the instructions they give you for installation. Some ROMS require a full wipe and others don't. It just depends on the ROM. When in doubt, follow the instructions (again if it exists).
Your third question is a weird one, I've never heard about that really. BUT.... Some ROMS may or may not include the GAPPS applications (Google Apps).
If the ROM you flash doesn't have Google Apps built in, it would literally be missing. You would have to flash it separately. Usually in those cases though, at the download location for that ROM, they would also provide links for GAPPS zip files to flash separately so you can have the option to go with Android Market, Gmail and such OR you can use an alternative. Short of that..... never heard of that issue before..... If the issue is happening after the Market app updates, in that case it might be some type of ROM issue, you'll probably have to somehow get the updated Vending.apk (Android Market) remove/backup the original and reinstall it manually (the way you would a regular apk). I'm guessing though....
Don't you just love research........
Thanks. And now, inevitably, answers lead to more questions.
With regards to kernels, how do I know which one's do what, are compatible with which ROMs etc. I feel like its the kinda thing that needs a giant database for them, but i know there isn't.
Also, is the process for flashing other .zip files the same (though either Rom manager or a built in Recovery option). For example, a bootanimation.zip?
Ultimately I hate the idea of asking overly simply questions, but I just don't know what I dont know, nor what is supposedly implied. Thanks.
Don't sweat it...... I'm in the same boat so I have no hangups....
I think I know what you mean when it comes to kernels. Ultimately, learning about kernels requires a lot of reading in many forums (Just like this one)... Why?.... Because in many instances the persons posting the kernels might not always give you an exact breakdown on exactly what it does..... so I understand. Your best bet would be scanning XDA. I've found all sorts of really excellent kernels lying around and the devs here love documentation so there is a good chance you'll know what it does...
You could also try DroidBasement: http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/
They actually have just what you wanted, a database....kind of. They have a very large variety of kernels for different devices so its a good place to start as well.
They also tend to do a breakdown of what each kernel is capable of, the device it should be used on and so on.
About flashing zip files. Generally speaking, most zip files are flashed through recovery but its not written in stone. Following the instructions concerning said zip files are always very important. Always look for instructions before you do so at least at first. In the case of bootanimation.zip.... They are not always flashable. But if it is flashable, you can flash it through recovery which would be the best method....
If you want though, you can replace the original bootanimation.zip file with the new one manually, once you have root and some type of root explorer (for example RootExplorer for Android).
Generally, the boot animation directory is usually, /System/Media so you can check to see if its there and if it is, just backup the original and replace it with the new one.... That should work... Always nandroid before doing so though.... before doing anything really....
Thanks. I actually had a question about nandroid but forgot. Basically, what is it. I realize contextually that it's a backup program and apparently works through the recovery menus. I read a ROM flashing step-by-step that mentioned it but couldnt figure out where to get it (not in the market unlike Ti-bu which i use currently).
Nandroid is a backup program that basically creates a flash image of your phone... If you've ever heard of "Ghosting" or "Imaging" a Hard Drive, its exactly the same thing.
Its really as good as it gets as far as data backup is concerned. Its also a low level backup, so even file structures would be recorded.. In other words, you can completely screw up your phone (file partitions everything!!!!) but once you can boot to recovery, your phone can be restored. That's why its so important because its your safety net....
Its not something that you can install like an apk, so its not in the market.
You would have to flash a custom recovery. If you have one already, it should be located in one of the menus (It changes depending on the type (brand) of recovery).
If you don't see the option in your recovery then its probably not custom and you're going to have to do some digging on these forums and maybe a bit of googling for instructions on exactly how to do so. Because it could change from device to device.
Nandroid also allows you to backup your sd-ext partition as well, so if you switch cards, you can restore to another card.... Its really incredibly handy and I wouldn't suggest you do anything until you can create nandroid backups....
Now, I'm having an interesting problem I posted this same thing in general Captivate forums but maybe someone who is looking at this/answering me knows. here's what i posted there:
have a Captivate that I recently flashed Di11i's 7.1.1 to, before that I had flashed my first ROM which was Serendipity 6.2. Both times I have found that I don't get incoming calls. People calling me get 2-3 rings, and then a traditional "busy signal" sound. On my end, either the phone vibrates once but the screen doesnt change from whatever screen I'm on. Or, The screen goes black like its going to the incoming call screen, but the black screens only flashes and goes away, as does a force close message box that goes away quickly without me clicking it.
Everything else on my phone works as far as I can tell, I've been running my current ROM for about 5 days without issues other than this one. This same exact problem also happened when I flashed Serendipity 6.2 (which I only kept for like a day because of this problem)
Ok....I currently use a G1 and most of my experience has been on HTC Devices. I'm not sure of how to reply to this as I have never really modded Samsung devices before. So I'm not really familiar with software and hardware differences (Like Bootloader, Recoveries, Radios and such). But based on what you're describing.... It sounds like a ROM or maybe a radio issue. Maybe its an issue with the phone app itself. If the app is somehow buggy then thats exactly what would happen. When the phone rings the phone app would try to run but then force close....
I'm guessing here, but it could also be a radio issue because you're getting a busy tone as well which is not good. Maybe the ROM requires a specific Radio version BEFORE its flashed.... Check the source of the download and determine if it requires a specific Radio version.
In my experience though, if the correct radio version isn't used for a ROM that requires it, the phone just won't boot..... but then again, I don't know what would happen on a Samsung Captivate.... Not sure if I can help on this one because I don't have any info on that type of hardware. I don't own one you see.....
What about if you found out a new kernel isn't as good as the old kernel, how would you go on to take away the new kernel to replace it with the old kernel? Is it the same process or even harder?
vlen22 said:
What about if you found out a new kernel isn't as good as the old kernel, how would you go on to take away the new kernel to replace it with the old kernel? Is it the same process or even harder?
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NOW THIS IS ANNOYING..
u have to flash ur rom again..
but fortunately u dont need to do and wiping data or partitioning sd card.. jus flash rom..
Its not something that you can install like an apk, so its not in the market.
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NOW THIS IS ANNOYING..
u have to flash ur rom again..
but fortunately u dont need to do and wiping data or partitioning sd card.. jus flash rom..
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The rom kernel that I downloaded, or flashing clockwork recovery mod? Like adrenylyne's kernel for the thunderbolt.
EDIT: Never mind, I found out. I didn't mean any harm if MY POST was annoying.
If you have two kernels, in a flashable zip, you can just flash them over each other to exchange them (turn off any modification the kernel did befor though, like lagfix).
New question, I had an app (quick office) that came on my captivate. Now that I've flashed di11i's 7.1 I don't have it anymore. This is particularly peculiar because all the other native apps are still here:samsungs media player from example. How do I go about getting this missing app back on my phone. I have all the backup files on my computer so I should have the .apk (although I'm not entirely sure how to install those properly) thanks
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Hi,
I have openrecovery installed on my XT720 but I want to know how I can install AOR.
Does I have simply to change openrecovery zip by AOR one or does I have to do another think ?
Thank you
unzip the openrecovery 3_3 thing. there will be 2 things inside: an update.zip and a openrecovery folder. copy both into the root of your sd card. then you computer will ask you whether you want to replace the openrecovery folder already on ur sd card, and you should click yes. once both are on, you are done. AOR is full of features, haha. i just learnt this a few days ago.
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unzip the openrecovery 3_3 thing. there will be 2 things inside: an update.zip and a openrecovery folder. copy both into the root of your sd card. then you computer will ask you whether you want to replace the openrecovery folder already on ur sd card, and you should click yes. once both are on, you are done. AOR is full of features, haha. i just learnt this a few days ago.
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Thank you, I will try.
EDIT : It works good, I made a mistake, I deleted openrecovery.zip from sdcard, this file must stay or openrecovery fail and there is to pull battery to reboot.
Do you know where to find script to check sdcard error ?
its somewhere in AOR. just look around the AOR utilities thing. you should use zipalign. my phone feels slightly smoother. adblock works for most apps i think, except for angry birds and a few others. prevents these ads from loading up. they clutter the screen. you can also adjust the heap size in AOR. im using 40mb. heavy apps run more smoothly, but if u launch an app within an app, the original app might get killed because 40mb might not be enough to run 2 apps. but its ok for me. i dont usually do a lot of multi tasking.
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its somewhere in AOR. just look around the AOR utilities thing. you should use zipalign. my phone feels slightly smoother. adblock works for most apps i think, except for angry birds and a few others. prevents these ads from loading up. they clutter the screen. you can also adjust the heap size in AOR. im using 40mb. heavy apps run more smoothly, but if u launch an app within an app, the original app might get killed because 40mb might not be enough to run 2 apps. but its ok for me. i dont usually do a lot of multi tasking.
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I will try but for ads, I use droidwall, it's a firewall so, you can block 3g and wifi for each app.
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Do you know where to find script to check sdcard error ?
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Go to Menu Utilities and it is options 4 and 5. Scan disk and Scan sd-ext. I use both b/c if your partition is corrupted, it will show and try to fix it. I actually do this both before and after I flash a new ROM just to make sure it will "accept" the new ROM and also to make sure it has "accepted" it and that part is working correctly before I ever get into the new ROM.
Fix permissions works well too, btw. Also be careful messing with the VM heap size b/c most of our ROMs already have this paramenter set. It is usually on the front page of the ROMs description like on Kahl's V4 ROM for example. And one final, don't mess with the basebands, it will F%^& your phone up.
Sorry, this is the final thought. Make sure you are aware that the modding menus are based on Kernals, so most of the Froyo things, although we are on a hacked Froyo, probably won't work and may screw something up. The Eclair menu has JIT and Memhack, we already have those. They (modding menus) are mostly if you are running stock 2.1 or stock 2.2 (which no one is running stock 2.2 at this point).
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Go to Menu Utilities and it is options 4 and 5. Scan disk and Scan sd-ext. I use both b/c if your partition is corrupted, it will show and try to fix it. I actually do this both before and after I flash a new ROM just to make sure it will "accept" the new ROM and also to make sure it has "accepted" it and that part is working correctly before I ever get into the new ROM.
Fix permissions works well too, btw. Also be careful messing with the VM heap size b/c most of our ROMs already have this paramenter set. It is usually on the front page of the ROMs description like on Kahl's V4 ROM for example. And one final, don't mess with the basebands, it will F%^& your phone up.
Sorry, this is the final thought. Make sure you are aware that the modding menus are based on Kernals, so most of the Froyo things, although we are on a hacked Froyo, probably won't work and may screw something up. The Eclair menu has JIT and Memhack, we already have those. They (modding menus) are mostly if you are running stock 2.1 or stock 2.2 (which no one is running stock 2.2 at this point).
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Thank you, I didn't found this last time but I did'nt check in eclair utilitie menu so, I mean it's on it.
Hi guys, I am new here so try to be gentle.
This was the first time I've ever tried to do something with my phone (Nexus S) from the day I've bought it. (Ver 2.3.4)
I did my homework, and tried to install a new Mod.
I have tried many Roms from the last couple of days, but for some strange reason non of them worked fast enough (at least as my old version).
(well and the fact that it erased my SD card with all the info I've had there...)
The one version that looked ok from first sight was:
CyanogenMod 9 v4.0.3 v3.4 + CM Night builds
Now I'm having lots of different issues, and have no idea if someone already solved them, or should I just return to the working old version I had.
The first thing is -> I cannot move Apps to the SD storage, Under the Storage cattegory i have no option to choose to install apps on the SD (like I had with the old version), and under Apps - the "move to SD card" is Grey.
another thing is the languages, why do I see Chinese and other langauged by default and Im unable to uncheck them?
there are many more issues, but these are the most annoying ones for now.
I cannot reply to the version thread, so who can advice?
Thanks!
There are MANY roms for the Nexus. You just have to try a few and find one to your liking. The Chinese text you were talking about might of been an MIUI rom. They are based from China. When you go through the setup screen on each rom after you flash, make sure you choose the appropriate language to your liking.
On another hand. If you tried an ICS rom, then I think apps to sd don't work on Ice Cream Sandwich. I am not 100% sure, though. Please don't take my word for it.
Some roms might have bugs, some might work 100%. Just do the reading and flashing and learn from experience. Its the best way.
BTW. Welcome to XDA!
Well not quite.
mabry said:
There are MANY roms for the Nexus. You just have to try a few and find one to your liking. The Chinese text you were talking about might of been an MIUI rom. They are based from China. When you go through the setup screen on each rom after you flash, make sure you choose the appropriate language to your liking.
On another hand. If you tried an ICS rom, then I think apps to sd don't work on Ice Cream Sandwich. I am not 100% sure, though. Please don't take my word for it.
Some roms might have bugs, some might work 100%. Just do the reading and flashing and learn from experience. Its the best way.
BTW. Welcome to XDA!
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The MOD is the most recent CM9 mod, (named in the topic).
I dont see why is it related with the fact I cannot uncheck the unneeded language like Chinese.
but the language part is not much of an issue like the SD card.
I am not trying to run old Apps, since my SD was formatted during the upgrade,
I am trying to move - or choose where to install current apps, ability I had before this Version.
I have an image to attache, but I cannot since I am a new member.
any reason why other mods for the same phone were working very slow? (Clean installation)
thanks for the quick reply.
The ability to move/force all apps to to SD or pick a default install location is not included in the rom yet. Do it manually with a app if you want to move something to SD that doesn't support being moved there.
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The ability to move/force all apps to to SD or pick a default install location is not included in the rom yet. Do it manually with a app if you want to move something to SD that doesn't support being moved there.
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Just tried it, same thing, Apps cannot move to the SDcard.
I find the "Airplane" icon can't be shown on the top when you choose "text" in Signal status style.
ROM: CM9 v3.4
KERNEL: Matr1x v17.5
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Just tried it, same thing, Apps cannot move to the SDcard.
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How did you try it?
I have not used that particular rom myself but have used kangs and am running a official nightly build of cm9.
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How did you try it?
I have not used that particular rom myself but have used kangs and am running a official nightly build of cm9.
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I have d/l couple of apps that move to usb, they all say apps cannot be moved to the SD, those apps (like facebook) were already on my SD with the old version.
Just because the old version allowed to move them to SD that does not mean the apps support it. Again since the feature to do it within the rom itself is not there yet you have to do it manually with a third party app. Titanium backup or one of the who knows how many root apps2sd apps will move it
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Just because the old version allowed to move them to SD that does not mean the apps support it. Again since the feature to do it within the rom itself is not there yet you have to do it manually with a third party app. Titanium backup or one of the who knows how many root apps2sd apps will move it
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Got it, thanks.
another thing, when unlocking the device I have two options.
one is to unlock, and the other one is the camera.
Q: 1. can i switch the camera with something else?
2. I have seen roms with 4 -5 -6 different options to unlock, how can I have this feature?
thanks again.
That is a feature built into that rom. Cyan doesn't have it yet. Not sure what options they are planning to add to lock screen . Just a place holder for now in settings. There are lock screen replacements on the market you could install if you like.
Try CNA or the more stable CM7.2
CM9 made by Kalim doesn't have these features right now. You could try a different ROM called "Codename Android" (CNA) which is based on ICS.
However, all these ROMs are not in their final stage. A better choice to try would be the CyanogenMod 7.2 for NS. I was using it while I was on GB, works wonders, although expect BSOD some times...
Enjoy the testing!
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Got it, thanks.
another thing, when unlocking the device I have two options.
one is to unlock, and the other one is the camera.
Q: 1. can i switch the camera with something else?
2. I have seen roms with 4 -5 -6 different options to unlock, how can I have this feature?
thanks again.
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Can someone help me understand how we can have root methods for the HD 10, but no custom recovery or ROMs?
Any news or updates on the effort here? I'm willing to pay or donate to get it done!
I REALLY want to turn my tablet into an Android tablet... Not a fire tablet with an almost Android experience.
If we can get some one to create safestrap probably we can have a custom Rom !ade
There's no ROM(s) because root was just gained in December. So far as I know, no developers own a HD 10 (at least none that have said so) so no one is able to build one. I am willing to try, but unfortunately I don't have all the resources yet. There is no custom recovery because the bootloader is still locked (so far as I know). Its very hard, almost impossible to get a custom recovery on a locked device. Give it some more time. Maybe @ggow will surprise us.
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There's no ROM(s) because root was just gained in December. So far as I know, no developers own a HD 10 (at least none that have said so) so no one is able to build one. I am willing to try, but unfortunately I don't have all the resources yet. There is no custom recovery because the bootloader is still locked (so far as I know). Its very hard, almost impossible to get a custom recovery on a locked device. Give it some more time. Maybe @ggow will surprise us.
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I have a 'maybe dumb' problem, because we only can flash with FlashFire.
Months ago, I owned a Samsung Galaxy Core Prime. I tried to compile Oreo for it. But, what happened to me is, before I get the ROM to BOOT, I compiled it exactly 17 times, fixing bugs. I never had a problem because I had the TWRP handy, but in this case we will not have a custom recovery at all. If the ROM fails to boot, we'll have to sideload stock ROM. Sideloading stock 17 times... doesn't it look tedious? From my experience, any developer no matter how clever he is, will have to compile at least 10 or so times before getting the ROM to boot???
Thanks!
Supersonic27543 said:
I have a 'maybe dumb' problem, because we only can flash with FlashFire.
Months ago, I owned a Samsung Galaxy Core Prime. I tried to compile Oreo for it. But, what happened to me is, before I get the ROM to BOOT, I compiled it exactly 17 times, fixing bugs. I never had a problem because I had the TWRP handy, but in this case we will not have a custom recovery at all. If the ROM fails to boot, we'll have to sideload stock ROM. Sideloading stock 17 times... doesn't it look tedious? From my experience, any developer no matter how clever he is, will have to compile at least 10 or so times before getting the ROM to boot???
Thanks!
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To be honest, FireOS is pretty awesome with root and debloated. I've not had a single problem debloating, and I'm still going lol.
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To be honest, FireOS is pretty awesome with root and debloated. I've not had a single problem debloating, and I'm still going lol.
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Hi! I pretty much agree with you. But you never know what it can do until you flash stock Android.
Thanks!
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Hi! I pretty much agree with you. But you never know what it can do until you flash stock Android.
Thanks!
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That's one of my projects
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To be honest, FireOS is pretty awesome with root and debloated. I've not had a single problem debloating, and I'm still going lol.
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Could be that I don't know how to solve the problems I have, but for me not all the Google play applications I want (for my kid) work. Issues vary from validating my authorized purchase to core functionality of applications not working. Some of the applications refer to Android os content and services that either aren't in fire os, are named differently, or have different functionality.
Not to mention that I dislike my son's user experience... He's only 3, quite smart but I've not been able to strike a good balance of protecting him and allowing him to actually use his tablet without learning wierd tricks to access Google play apps.
I'm ok if I have to stay on Fire Os if I can have complete control over profiles, launchers and have a genuine experience using my Google Play applications. Some of the FreeTime stuff is ok... My son might like some of it. But more importantly I want him to have the far superior applications on Google Play which are not currently available on Fire.
I'm willing to contribute to get a custom rom on the fire 10.
I really want to compile one, my skills are getting blunt without some compiling, but it turns out that I only have a HD 8.
Can someone please educate me on getting the GPS to work with google maps, like my phone? My HD 10 7th gen is rooted w/supersu. I have xposed and flashfire installed.
Is a custom ROM really required for this? I tried GPS tethering over hotpot but even that didn't work properly. I wish Amazon had their own proper NAV app to use the GPS chip, could be a bonus to being a prime member.
kferling said:
Can someone please educate me on getting the GPS to work with google maps, naively like my phone? My HD 10 7th gen is rooted w/supersu. I have Xposed and flashfire installed.
Is a custom ROM really required for this? I tried GPS tethering over hotpot but even that didn't work properly. I wish Amazon had their own proper NAV app to use the GPS chip, could be a bonus to being a prime member.
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Clear data of 4 Google apps. Uninstall and reboot. Make sure nothing of the apps are left in /data/data. If so, delete folders and reboot. When booted again, toggle off location services for about 30 seconds and turn it back on. Then install the 4 APKs in this exact order: gfs_login, gfs, gms, vending. After install wait about a minute or two and reboot then log in. Wait several minutes, watching the two desktop icons. When they flash, the apps have updated. Go to location services and it might be turned off. If so, turn it on and press accept/yes for ALL OPTIONS. If it's turned on, toggle it off for 30 seconds then turn it on and again accept/yes all boxes that appear.
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Clear data of 4 Google apps. Uninstall and reboot. Make sure nothing of the apps are left in /data/data. If so, delete folders and reboot. When booted again, toggle off location services for about 30 seconds and turn it back on. Then install the 4 APKs in this exact order: gfs_login, gfs, gms, vending. After install wait about a minute or two and reboot then log in. Wait several minutes, watching the two desktop icons. When they flash, the apps have updated. Go to location services and it might be turned off. If so, turn it on and press accept/yes for ALL OPTIONS. If it's turned on, toggle it off for 30 seconds then turn it on and again accept/yes all boxes that appear.
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Thanks, although I did not get location prompts at the end. :/
Data was wiped for all 4, and uninstalled. rebooted and verified no data with ES.
Installed google apks in the exact order, waited 2 minutes, rebooted, then logged into playstore.
Went to home screen, saw apps flash after waiting. Went to location services (was off) turned on and no prompts
Turned off, waited 30 secs, turned back on, still no prompts.
Is this any different from your guide here?
Step 6. states "Once all the APKs are installed, open the Play Store and sign into your account and IMMEDIATELY go to settings and TURN OFF auto-updates. "
Perhaps that's what I need to do?
Just ordered an HD10, will this tutorial still work? https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd...7-root-box-t3726443/post75187398#post75187398
Will that debloat Fire OS also?
So I've figured out numerous things that get this closer to a custom rom. I just want to report my progress. As I'm working to get my PC in a good enough shape to run Windows and Linux again, I can't compile from source yet. my biggest issue is space. I need to free a lot up. But that doesn't mean anything.
I have been able to track down a lot of useful old school tools here on XDA. The amount of resources that exist on this site never cease to amaze me. Given what I've been doing to these tablets (the resources are old, 2012 onward), I kept looking in that era for tools to assist in getting us to a rom. In the past week I've been able to do these things, with success but have not tested a rom yet. Amazon has had it a bit more difficult with this device.
- Successfully deodexed the stock ROM 5.6.1.0. This was very easy to do...once I found tool that was compatible with deodexing Lollipop. Apparently it not easy to do.
- Successful library integration and editing of a stock AOSP Gallery3d apk. Fully 100% operational and full picture editing availability. Combine my wallpaper discovery, Amazon Photos is no longer required as a wallpaper or gallery source.
- Successfully addition of other surprises
- Figured out how Amazon restocks the ROM on a reflash. In the update.bin is a .dat file. When compiled, produces the system files in whole fresh stock. This can be edited then recompiled back into a system.img or can be used to build a ROM .zip style. That also means once I can build from source, a real ROM can be built.
- Will be pre-rooted with busy box.
- Viper4Android
- Ad blocking from open source free ware.
- Includes my framework and Settings mods.
Any questions please feel free to ask.
Have a new 2015 HD 10. Will definitely be following your progress
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Have a new 2015 HD 10. Will definitely be following your progress
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Or a severe lack of progress...
I have been at it for hours and hours and I am no closer than I was when I made my last post. I've looked at dozens of updater-scripts and the mount points are no different than the Fire 7, but it just won't flash a zip and when the rare chance comes along that the zip does flash, booting doesn't get past the white Amazon logo (first power on logo). I finally managed to get nearly all of the script right, and now when I add assert getprop for device ID verification, it rejects it despite the fields being properly filled out. I'm not giving up, I just need to figure out why.
On a side note, I have been able to do a switcheroo on the system, sorta. In trying to further mod the settings apk, I have been able to use a settings apk from an AOSP rom to replace FireTabletSettings. There is a trick...uninstall the stock FireTabletSettings APK, wipe the caches and dalvik, and took a resigned AOSP settings apk (test key signed), installed it as a user app then converted it to a system app. It installs fine, but I can only get half of it to work. I haven't tried with the framework or systemUI yet because I haven't been successful with the settings.
Back to the drawing boards...
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DragonFire1024 said:
Or a severe lack of progress...
I have been at it for hours and hours and I am no closer than I was when I made my last post. I've looked at dozens of updater-scripts and the mount points are no different than the Fire 7, but it just won't flash a zip and when the rare chance comes along that the zip does flash, booting doesn't get past the white Amazon logo (first power on logo). I finally managed to get nearly all of the script right, and now when I add assert getprop for device ID verification, it rejects it despite the fields being properly filled out. I'm not giving up, I just need to figure out why.
On a side note, I have been able to do a switcheroo on the system, sorta. In trying to further mod the settings apk, I have been able to use a settings apk from an AOSP rom to replace FireTabletSettings. There is a trick...uninstall the stock FireTabletSettings APK, wipe the caches and dalvik, and took a resigned AOSP settings apk (test key signed), installed it as a user app then converted it to a system app. It installs fine, but I can only get half of it to work. I haven't tried with the framework or systemUI yet because I haven't been successful with the settings.
Back to the drawing boards...
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Try digging in files. I guarantee that Amazon took a very similar approach as Samsung did, requiring you to flash a break encryption zip.
I would try to help, as I've made several AOSP roms, but that was when Android 4.4 was the newest and you could compile it with 4 gb of ram.
Once I upgrade or get a new PC, I will most definitely install Linux, and try to help this forum.
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DragonFire1024 said:
Or a severe lack of progress...
I have been at it for hours and hours and I am no closer than I was when I made my last post. I've looked at dozens of updater-scripts and the mount points are no different than the Fire 7, but it just won't flash a zip and when the rare chance comes along that the zip does flash, booting doesn't get past the white Amazon logo (first power on logo). I finally managed to get nearly all of the script right, and now when I add assert getprop for device ID verification, it rejects it despite the fields being properly filled out. I'm not giving up, I just need to figure out why.
On a side note, I have been able to do a switcheroo on the system, sorta. In trying to further mod the settings apk, I have been able to use a settings apk from an AOSP rom to replace FireTabletSettings. There is a trick...uninstall the stock FireTabletSettings APK, wipe the caches and dalvik, and took a resigned AOSP settings apk (test key signed), installed it as a user app then converted it to a system app. It installs fine, but I can only get half of it to work. I haven't tried with the framework or systemUI yet because I haven't been successful with the settings.
Back to the drawing boards...
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Haven't been up-to-date.
Do we have TWRP? If not how are you flashing the files?
I'd be open to porting TWRP to the HD 10 and maybe the 8 if we needed.
Reason being TWRP backups can be converted to a flashable .zip file, meaning that once you've gotten all the AOSP apps working (settings, gallery, etc) you could theme it, debloat it, deodex it, and everything else then save it and convert it to a zip. Would save people the time of doing it, and would be one step forward.
TechNash said:
Try digging in files. I guarantee that Amazon took a very similar approach as Samsung did, requiring you to flash a break encryption zip.
I would try to help, as I've made several AOSP roms, but that was when Android 4.4 was the newest and you could compile it with 4 gb of ram.
Once I upgrade or get a new PC, I will most definitely install Linux, and try to help this forum.
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Haven't been up-to-date.
Do we have TWRP? If not how are you flashing the files?
I'd be open to porting TWRP to the HD 10 and maybe the 8 if we needed.
Reason being TWRP backups can be converted to a flashable .zip file, meaning that once you've gotten all the AOSP apps working (settings, gallery, etc) you could theme it, debloat it, deodex it, and everything else then save it and convert it to a zip. Would save people the time of doing it, and would be one step forward.
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Not sure about the encryption. It has to be a script problem, or the system partition won't accept zips and that's the barrier. However if I just flash the system directory instead, everything works fine. I can flash stuff into it just fine that way, but seems any time I go the way of the partition, I can't win. Flashing your own system image works too. However I haven't been able to get one to flash if I modify it. So I can decompile a system.img add to it, remove items and recompile it and it won't flash.
I am using flash fire to flash zips. We still have a locked bootloader so twrp isn't a likely option.
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DragonFire1024 said:
So I've figured out numerous things that get this closer to a custom rom. I just want to report my progress. As I'm working to get my PC in a good enough shape to run Windows and Linux again, I can't compile from source yet. my biggest issue is space. I need to free a lot up. But that doesn't mean anything.
I have been able to track down a lot of useful old school tools here on XDA. The amount of resources that exist on this site never cease to amaze me. Given what I've been doing to these tablets (the resources are old, 2012 onward), I kept looking in that era for tools to assist in getting us to a rom. In the past week I've been able to do these things, with success but have not tested a rom yet. Amazon has had it a bit more difficult with this device.
- Successfully deodexed the stock ROM 5.6.1.0. This was very easy to do...once I found tool that was compatible with deodexing Lollipop. Apparently it not easy to do.
- Successful library integration and editing of a stock AOSP Gallery3d apk. Fully 100% operational and full picture editing availability. Combine my wallpaper discovery, Amazon Photos is no longer required as a wallpaper or gallery source.
- Successfully addition of other surprises
- Figured out how Amazon restocks the ROM on a reflash. In the update.bin is a .dat file. When compiled, produces the system files in whole fresh stock. This can be edited then recompiled back into a system.img or can be used to build a ROM .zip style. That also means once I can build from source, a real ROM can be built.
- Will be pre-rooted with busy box.
- Viper4Android
- Ad blocking from open source free ware.
- Includes my framework and Settings mods.
Any questions please feel free to ask.
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I mean, if PC performance is an issue I can give you access to a brand new xeon if it means there will be a custom ROM out.
Been thinking about buying the Fire HD 10 this black Friday and flash the Amazon garbage out, and was amazed to see none exist even though it has been a year since they figured out the rooting.
This will be an outstanding value if it was possible...