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[Q] Thinking About Getting a Xoom

So I see a lot of questions about ICS roms. In the past, I had read that this is considered a Google Experience flagship, that it didn't come with any skins and was a pure Android. Since it's upgrade to ICS, is this still the case or have skins like Motoblur been added?
Also, if this is pure Android, then why is there interest in making additional roms for ICS if it is already barebones Android?

Is this really so hard a thread for you more experienced lurkers to answer? I see I must have obviously offended someone by asking it in the question and answer board. Thanks anyway.
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Ratlegion said:
Is this really so hard a thread for you more experienced lurkers to answer? I see I must have obviously offended someone by asking it in the question and answer board. Thanks anyway.
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You offend people with the lack of effort on your part. Your answers could easily been found by going to a custom rom thread and reading the list of additional enhancements. Hell, if you are lazy you can even go on YouTube and watch people talk about the rom. There also have been threads that talk about this already. Use the search feature and if that doesn't work out well, use Google and include "xda" along with whatever you are searching for.

I actually have looked into it, and everyone does praise ics on the Zoom, and it is never explicitly said that it has a skin on it, but that doesn't change the fact that xda is more appropriate a source for a correct answer. I haven't seen any quality reviews for it, the hardware being as old as it is. No one has anything to say other than it got the update and that it's fast.
As for the part about roms, they are sexondary, and no, I didn't do any research into that; I will acknowledge that I should have.
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No skin.
Stock is stock. It gets updated in major revisions only. Custom roms have nightlies, even.
Additional hacks and upgrades are made with custom rom. Like having a stock car, and then putting a loud sports exhaust on it. Undisirable to most, but gives more performance to those that want it.

[Q] Tweaks to help Infinity performance?

I'm just wondering if anyone has any other useful tips on improving the performance of the TFI?
I've already done the tweaks in the "[HOW-TO] Some tweaks to sweeten your life with the Infinity a little" which did help somewhat, but this thing is still a bit sluggish.

Absolutely. We keep all the best information hidden out of reach of a simple search. The real key is to nest it deeply beneath tons of stupid questions like this one.
Seriously. This post is exactly why threads with important/pertinent information are made sticky.

Thanks for the helpful reply (sarcasm).
I've looked through just about every thread on this forum in regards to this. I referenced the sticky thread that seemed to have most of the best tweaks already listed.
Sorry for thinking someone might have some insight on why when the TFI in particular performs so poorly even compared to the Prime (I had one of those also).
I've been on this forum for 3 years and to be perfectly honest your answer is the reason I don't bother posting on most forums. I went out of my way to keep it in the Q&A section (because it is a question and I didn't want to post in a section where it would just clutter things up).
MODS, please close as you see fit. I'd guess (by the lack of productive posts) that there isn't anything out there that I haven't already found and being flamed serves no real purpose.

I will take a stab at a useful suggestion rather than bashing you for your innocent question.
The prime has had some performance gains by mounting the /data to /sd:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803252
May be something to try on the tf700.. hope that was more helpful than the snarky bashing that many posters here feel is warranted when anyone asks a question. We need to be nicer around here and if there is nothing useful for you to add to a thread... then don't post, just pm a moderator if you think the thread is not relevant.

350zxtrm said:
Thanks for the helpful reply (sarcasm).
I've looked through just about every thread on this forum in regards to this. I referenced the sticky thread that seemed to have most of the best tweaks already listed.
Sorry for thinking someone might have some insight on why when the TFI in particular performs so poorly even compared to the Prime (I had one of those also).
I've been on this forum for 3 years and to be perfectly honest your answer is the reason I don't bother posting on most forums. I went out of my way to keep it in the Q&A section (because it is a question and I didn't want to post in a section where it would just clutter things up).
MODS, please close as you see fit. I'd guess (by the lack of productive posts) that there isn't anything out there that I haven't already found and being flamed serves no real purpose.
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My honest answer is that the best performance improvement will come from root/unlock/TWRP recovery and flashing Zeus Rom v4.0, now and possibly AOSP Jelly Bean or CM10 when they are ready to flash. I always find more good performance comes from custom software than from stock.

@ Jordanmw - Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look later tonight when I get home from work.
@okantomi - I think you are probably right. I unlocked the Prime shortly after getting it and just basically figured no biggie. The only reason I haven't done it with the Infinity is because it performed so poorly out of the box that my gut reaction was that it was going to have to go back... I'll probably end up doing it though.
I do seem to be making some headway on the issue. I went through and tested some slightly modified build.prop tweaks (modified compared to the tweak thread I referenced in the OP). Added a few others and started to play around with getting init.d working so I can run some other scripts during startup rather than having multiple "tweaking" programs running. Ultimately I'll probably just end up unlocking and using one of the custom roms, but in the meantime I figured it wouldn't hurt to spend a little time learning some new tricks.
Appreciate the helpful feedback guys. Also, Once I get to where I feel the Infinity is performing the way I want, I'll post what I did (giving all credit to those who's work I benefited from of course).

350zxtrm said:
@ Jordanmw - Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look later tonight when I get home from work.
@okantomi - I think you are probably right. I unlocked the Prime shortly after getting it and just basically figured no biggie. The only reason I haven't done it with the Infinity is because it performed so poorly out of the box that my gut reaction was that it was going to have to go back... I'll probably end up doing it though.
I do seem to be making some headway on the issue. I went through and tested some slightly modified build.prop tweaks (modified compared to the tweak thread I referenced in the OP). Added a few others and started to play around with getting init.d working so I can run some other scripts during startup rather than having multiple "tweaking" programs running. Ultimately I'll probably just end up unlocking and using one of the custom roms, but in the meantime I figured it wouldn't hurt to spend a little time learning some new tricks.
Appreciate the helpful feedback guys. Also, Once I get to where I feel the Infinity is performing the way I want, I'll post what I did (giving all credit to those who's work I benefited from of course).
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That would be awesome. I've just flashed the Team Baked Black Beans Infinity Jelly Bean ROM and it's really nice. Will need to do some tweaks but init.d support is build in so it should be pretty easy.

Looking For Talented Devs to Help With a Rom

Hi I'm kinda new into the development side of android coding, but I know about flashing and the other goodies. I would like to create a team to help me and our android community a revolutionary ROM for our device and then release to other developers to port to other devices. I know that I'm probably going to get ridiculed for posting this hear but I have a few cool ideas that I would like to share that I think would make the Android experience on our phone way cooler.
Here are some of the features that I want to add into the ROM that I want help developing that don't exist and that may already exist:
Add widgets and apps into the pull down menu bar and implement that to when the device is locked. Its kinda like the same idea as in 4.2 but I think can be made more better and efficient.
Various build.prop tweaks for better performance.
Removing the bloatware apps from the ROM for more system space and better battery life.
Automatically drop 4g into 3g after a certain amount of time when phone is not being heavily used for better battery life.
Add a widget to switch between 4g and 3g into the notification bar.
Implement the auto arrangement of apps and widgets on the home screen into ICS like jelly bean has if we build off a stock ICS base.
Implement the 4.2 camera app
Implement the 4.2 gallery app
Implement the 4.2 keyboard app
Implement the 4.2 Gmail app
Implement Google Now
Implement a fully working Google wallet app
Add options to switch betwewn a scrolling/non scrolling wallpaper.
Add options to switch between a 5x5/5x4/4x4 launcher.
Add an option when listening to music to go into airplane mode to save battery life.
Add various audio tweaks for enhanced audio.
Increase the auto sync delay over network connection for better battery life.
Implement a CPU/GPU app to overclock for better performance and underclock for better battery life.
Add better and customizable auto brightness settings.
Allow for custom boot images.
Add 4 way Reboot menu.
Add a brightness slider.
Implement an unlocked bootloader.
Implement holding the back button to kill an app.
Possibly implement the Sony Bravia Engine.
Implement nexus 4 notification sounds.
And possibly implement multiview for apps.
I know that some of these things already exists and I think some of the things that don't exist in our current ROMs can be created with some creative coding.
I think that if this project gets up and running we could build this off of a stock VZW JB ROM or we could build this off of a stock ICS ROM .
Let me know what you guys think about this maybe insane idea level of modification to a ROM and hopefully we can get something started.
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This belongs in General section.

CleanROM Lite Edition, Pimp My Rom. There's most of what you requested lol
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Just run away. I suspect this NEVER happening.

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Dear OP,
Perhaps my response will be more enlightening that some of the others.
First things first. It is understandable to ask for help developing a rom. We all had to start somewhere. We all made mistakes and we all had breakthroughs and anyone who denies this is lying.
Second. Just as we started out from nothing and grown into the devs we are, we had to start by learning on our own. Might I suggest getting a zip of a stock rom and messing with it. Add this, Remove that. Mess up, and restart. Then once you have that, perhaps look at compiling source based roms such as Cyanogenmod. Not only will this get you more comfortable with coding, but rather get you used to spending hours infront of a monitor.
Third, Move from CM to aosp. I know it sounds counter intuitive, but with aosp, you are force to be more creative. Learn how to cherry pick and how to run diffs and such.
Fourth, start something. Anything to show you are making an effort rather than asking for others to code it and hope you get the credit.
This by no means is meant to discourage you, but you will go further and enjoy your creation more if YOU physically stick your hands in the code and mess with it.
Have a great day
atc3030

Considering you never dev'd before maybe try taking baby steps instead of listing every feature under the sun that you want in a Rom plus feature that don't really exist yet.
That does not sound like someone wanting to learn how to dev but more like finding someone to make a Rom for them. We all have the talent to list every feature under the sun we would like to see. That does not qualify someone for dev training. lol

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What a supportive community
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sumredhed567 said:
What a supportive community
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i know right

sumredhed567 said:
What a supportive community
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To be fair, had this been posted in general (the correct section) he would have gotten much more help. However people come here looking for ROMs and lately are seeing all these question or incorrect posts.
I hope he does develop something, the more devs the better!
I also think lt would be best if he had something to show before asking for help because basically he is requesting some one build a ROM for him right now.
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No kidding. I was gonna put some stuff up after finals......makes me second guess that whole idea......apparently you're either Elite or complete **** and ridiculed....

TechSavvy2 said:
No kidding. I was gonna put some stuff up after finals......makes me second guess that whole idea......apparently you're either Elite or complete **** and ridiculed....
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I think you're missing the point. He asked for help on a ROM he was thinking about making and posted it in the wrong section on top of that. The biggest problem is posting on the wrong forum though By all means release a ROM and purple will appreciate it.
However, release something then ask for help on some features you want to add and other devs will probably help.
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This is this guys second wrong forum post. He has not learned anything..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31735978#post31735978

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Everyone is supportive here helping this guy not set himself up for failure.
Also, if one does not know the difference between a development thread and a general or q&a thread after already making the mistake once then they have a lot to learn before developing anything...

[email protected] said:
Everyone is supportive here helping this guy not set himself up for failure.
Also, if one does not know the difference between a development thread and a general or q&a thread after already making the mistake once then they have a lot to learn before developing anything...
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He's by no means a developer this is a guy not asking, but essentially demanding people make him a ROM.

The XDA police are in full effect...
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Ok here's where I, usually the quiet guy, am going to get flamed I'm sure. I do understand site rules, and the need for organization. BUT, that said, why does everyone have to be totally anal about it all the time here? The "General" and "Q&A" sections here are TOO General. Everything root-related, not root-related,app-related, plan-related,..etc..etc...etc..etc....(you get my point) ALL gets thrown into the same section. This REALLY degrades from questions or statements getting the attention they NEED half the time. Who wants to sift through 5 pages before they find a question they can answer? Not most people. And to put it frankly, the general attitude around here really bites.
In the OP's defense, the Development section(again another generalized,cluttered section), is EXACTLY where I would want to post a question such as this. It just makes SENSE for it to be here. Would I? No. Why? Because I will get a cyber-smack in the nose for doing it, and breaking the iron-clad-follow-the-rules-or-else rule. In fact, I have posted threads in the Q&A and general sections for various devices here at XDA, and guess what? Only one of said threads got me any answers, and NONE got the attention of the people that needed to see them.
Time to rethink our attitudes, guys. The sense of "community" here is lacking..big time. Take some time to venture into other android websites, and search out XDA on them. You'll see TONS of gripes, and TONS of users that will not come here because of the "Snobiness".. to mention only one of the things that is said.
It's a terrible shame to see such a HUGE resource as this site is be filled with the attitude it is, and have such a bad name externally
Flame me, and you just prove my point.
Mods, if I have violated too many rules, please send me a PM, but also please provide me with a name I can contact high-up so I can also talk to them. My apologies, but I'm just fed up with it, but at the same time this is THE place to be for most of my android needs.
Just food for thought.. carry on people and enjoy your day/night.

@Atari... don't want to quote your long post but the development section is the easiest one to figure out especially if you read the guidelines. If you didn't develop something it doesn't go here. How much simpler can it be?
A question about development is not development. Imagine if it was. The actual ROM downloads would end up being on the 2nd and 3rd pages and lost in people just posting questions.

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@Atari... don't want to quote your long post but the development section is the easiest one to figure out especially if you read the guidelines. If you didn't develop something it doesn't go here. How much simpler can it be?
A question about development is not development. Imagine if it was. The actual ROM downloads would end up being on the 2nd and 3rd pages and lost in people just posting questions.
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Point taken. At least there could be a development Q&A though. His question would most likely have fallen to page 2 or three of the current Q&A section in no time, as many of the questions do.

[Q] worth changing your s3 for a s4?

what you think about this? worth the change?

I have the same doubt! I think S4 improvements are in major part software stuff, except for the camera (13Mpx) and the processor, I think that S3 has not much to envy... The question maybe is, can you afford it? At the far end, it's just a phone.

Im planning on changing. The new features are pretty cool. I am a bit of a phone junkie, so I like to bounce around a lot, but it seems to be worth the jump. Plus, it bugs me to have an outdated version of something. I went in and played with the eye movement stuff and although I may not use it all the time, it is pretty amazing, especially for a smart phone.

HaiKara Fan said:
what you think about this? worth the change?
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I think that there are already 2 threads devoted to questions about devices, please post your question in one of these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
Please search before posting!
Thanks!

New phone suggestions

So I'm looking to buy a new phone soon to replace my sgs4+ and i was wondering if anyone new of any good ones out there. I am having trouble finding anything that's kinda what i want. As i am kinda particular about what i want its a bit hard to find something that suits me. Any tip / recommendation is greatly appreciated☺☺
So here's some of the features my dream phone would have. I am kinda flexible so any suggestions are welcome
1. MicroSD slot
2. "off screen navigation buttons" if you will, same as my current phone..?
3. customisability! Rootable and if possible cyanogenMod (or similar (AOSP)) availability also TWRP would be nice
4. BATTERY!!!! good sized battery, if possible removable and expandable
5. Screen 5 - 6 inch amoled preferably with good resolution
Soo that's kinda what I look for in a new phone # 1&2 are kind important the rest not as much but still important though
I don't now of anywhere where you can look for phones by specs so I'm turning to you all for help, just like I've gotten here on XDA before!??
Cheers
Sorry for long post attached there should be a potato bear... I dunno I'm new at this
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Hi there,
There are threads already established that are devoted to discussions about devices, please read, and if necessary, repost your question in one of these threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
There are also several other discussion threads that you probably should review to help you. They are What phone do you wish you had? or
The Worst Android Device That You've Ever Had & Why or even this place that talks about The best phone you ever owned.
I will have to close this one. Thanks for understanding.