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[Q] mycloud remote desktop

Hey guys,
I'm considering getting a transformer and I'm really interested in the remote desktop feature of the myCloud app that is included. It isn't specified, but I kind of get the impression that you can only access computers on the same network. Is this true? If it is, it kind of makes the feature a little bit useless.. If I'm on the same network, I'm obviously close to the computer so I could just walk over there and use the computer rather than trying to control it through my tablet. If I could use it anywhere though - at university, for example - this could be very useful. Have any of you guys tried this out yet?
It's also too bad that it doesn't work with linux.. but oh well. I can always use ssh for that, I guess. Sometimes having an actual GUI is kind of nice though.
Thanks,
Sam

Do I need to install any software on the remote machine for this to work?
Or it works just like the mstsc.exe program in window?
Thanks.

I haven't used it since I don't have a transformer(yet anyway), but I believe that there is some software you need to install on the pc first. The myCloud app should come pre-installed on the transformer though.

It's Splashtop, which IMO is the best (local?) remote desktop software. It's very fast, like very very fast, and it transmits sound. I use it on my iPhone to listen to driver radios during NASCAR races. If you want something that works no matter where you are, buy LogMeIn.

smaskell said:
I haven't used it since I don't have a transformer(yet anyway), but I believe that there is some software you need to install on the pc first. The myCloud app should come pre-installed on the transformer though.
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Oh, I see.
Why do ASUS bother with this when there are tons of app out there that do this?

junks2010 said:
Oh, I see.
Why do ASUS bother with this when there are tons of app out there that do this?
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Because they got a license with Splashtop. Splashtop costs money normally, but they are including it free.
Who knows, or cares why. It's an awesome piece of software.

Zach Alt said:
Because they got a license with Splashtop. Splashtop costs money normally, but they are including it free.
Who knows, or cares why. It's an awesome piece of software.
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From the demo video, it is very fast. Unfortunately, I don't think I can use it to connect to my work PC.
What I usually do with my Windows 7 laptop
1. VPN to my company network
2. Remote desktop to my work PC using mstsc.exe
3. Do my work from there.
Is there a way to do this using a Honeycomb tablet without having to install any third party software on my work PC?
Thanks.

No, not with the app ASUS includes. You have to install the splashtop software and you have to be on a local network.

junks2010 said:
From the demo video, it is very fast. Unfortunately, I don't think I can use it to connect to my work PC.
What I usually do with my Windows 7 laptop
1. VPN to my company network
2. Remote desktop to my work PC using mstsc.exe
3. Do my work from there.
Is there a way to do this using a Honeycomb tablet without having to install any third party software on my work PC?
Thanks.
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Well there are remote apps in the android market place - I don't know what mstsc is, but some of them work with the standard windows 7 remote desktop protocol, ie you don't need to install anything on the pc

Kermode said:
Well there are remote apps in the android market place - I don't know what mstsc is, but some of them work with the standard windows 7 remote desktop protocol, ie you don't need to install anything on the pc
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Do you remember the name of that app? I hope it works with Win XP also (we still have XP at work).
I will to wait until I get my hands on the Transformer to try this out.

I use RemoteRDP on my Droid Incredible to connect to Windows via Remote Desktop. (RDP = remote desktop protocol) Also, mstsc.exe is the executable in Windows for remote desktop.
RemoteRDP has a free version that only allows you to connect to one computer. I bought the full version to connect to multiple computers. Setup a little port forwarding on your home router, and you're good to go!
..I'm still hoping the mynet software including the Asus splashtop will have some middle-hosting capability similar to gotomypc or logmein.com so it won't be LAN only... but I have no data to base that on, just a hope and guess!

Dan76 said:
I use RemoteRDP on my Droid Incredible to connect to Windows via Remote Desktop. (RDP = remote desktop protocol) Also, mstsc.exe is the executable in Windows for remote desktop.
RemoteRDP has a free version that only allows you to connect to one computer. I bought the full version to connect to multiple computers. Setup a little port forwarding on your home router, and you're good to go!
..I'm still hoping the mynet software including the Asus splashtop will have some middle-hosting capability similar to gotomypc or logmein.com so it won't be LAN only... but I have no data to base that on, just a hope and guess!
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I'm 98% sure it does not. It's just a renamed version of Splashtop.

Confirmation for you all that the newest update adds Splashtop for free. Other updates/faults I've listed HERE if you are interested.

i dont see mycloud app in my list of aps when i tap on the apps button on top rigjt corner of home screen. how do i find if mine came with mycloud or not?

ipulaski said:
i dont see mycloud app in my list of aps when i tap on the apps button on top rigjt corner of home screen. how do i find if mine came with mycloud or not?
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Well dont know you got your TF, but I got my TF on launch date and I had to do an update for mycloud app to show up on my tablet.

ipulaski said:
i dont see mycloud app in my list of aps when i tap on the apps button on top rigjt corner of home screen. how do i find if mine came with mycloud or not?
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If it was not included just flash the latest firmware on the Asus site.

I didn't think I'd get so much use out of it, since I usually only remote into my home systems when I'm away from home. However, I've actually found myself using it to watch cable in the bedroom when my wife is watching something else on the actual TV. I start Windows Media Center on my desktop that has a tuner, and am simply amazed at how well it performs. Video is as high-quality as if I was watching it on the desktop.
Also, note that Asus has stated that a version will be coming this summer that supports access from remote networks. I doubt that it will perform as well as it does locally, but if they can get even close to the same performance it will be a great solution.
This is another of those little surprises that have me loving the TF so much. Asus has put a lot of work into making a truly useful machine, in my opinion.
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SonicTab said:
If it was not included just flash the latest firmware on the Asus site.
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can u give some details on how to do that? sorry noob/dumb here...

ipulaski said:
i dont see mycloud app in my list of aps when i tap on the apps button on top rigjt corner of home screen. how do i find if mine came with mycloud or not?
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You need to go to asus website and manually download the new firmware for your region. Then you'll get myCloud.

ipulaski said:
can u give some details on how to do that? sorry noob/dumb here...
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Go here and download one that is right for your region. It has step by step instruction.
http://support.asus.com/download.as...101&p=20&s=16&os=32&hashedid=gHh4q7I8dvWJzhdV

Logmein for Surface RT

I know that Logmein does not have an app to support Windows RT but I was wondering if any of you great minds can make it work on this machine. I also have a Samsung Ativ 500T with Windows 8 but I want my Surface to be my daily driver. Without Logmein this cannot happen. Not all of my clients allow the port to be open for RDP and we handle a lot of sites.
I can log in with my account but when I attach to a computer (Active X script) it make me type in the words and letters and click the Send button for every action and the screen does not refresh.
Any of you know a work around or how to make this work?
Thanks in advance!

I hope this happens as well.

I've started using Team Viewer Touch on my surface. It seems to work just as well as logmein and as a bonus, it works on a LAN as well.

Team Viewer
drowe said:
I've started using Team Viewer Touch on my surface. It seems to work just as well as logmein and as a bonus, it works on a LAN as well.
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The problem with Team Viewer is you cannot install it on a Server for free. We handle servers on a daily basis so the Team Viewer option is not feasible unless we want to spend the $3,000 for unlimited installations and we don't just to get Surface RT working.
I know we can wait until Windows Pro, but just seeing if someone has a workaround for now while we wait the 3-4 months for Pro.

I also rely on LogMeIn for my IT business for supporting multiple clients.
My workaround is to RDP into my Win8 desktop at home, then LMI from there. This works great for me, even while WiFi tethered through my LTE phone.

How far are you guys getting with logmein on the RT? I can actually get into my remote machines if I hit the 'click here if you don't see the active x bar'. I lose certain features like switching monitors on dual monitor machines though. I also have logmein central which may be why I have that option?

skeptikal said:
How far are you guys getting with logmein on the RT? I can actually get into my remote machines if I hit the 'click here if you don't see the active x bar'. I lose certain features like switching monitors on dual monitor machines though. I also have logmein central which may be why I have that option?
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Logmein.com is unusable on WinRT.

Not completely unusable. I can log on and do most things. Just can't switch monitors and things like that.

skeptikal said:
Not completely unusable. I can log on and do most things. Just can't switch monitors and things like that.
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I have tested multiple times and it does this awful refresh all the time that makes the screen go white...making it virtually unusable.

Wish I could
TheAccuser said:
I also rely on LogMeIn for my IT business for supporting multiple clients.
My workaround is to RDP into my Win8 desktop at home, then LMI from there. This works great for me, even while WiFi tethered through my LTE phone.
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I would do that but I am running an iMac at home. I have Windows dual booted on it but I would have to remember to change it to that OS everyday when I left and stuff.
Too much of a pain.

We called Team Viewer and they have a $1,500 option but that is still too much to pay for something that should be so simple to use on the Windows RT device.
If we don't get it running we will just get Samsung Ativ Smart PC 500T's to use. I know they work. I just love the form factor of the Surface.

In think that we will see a version of logmein very soon taking in consideration that they already release join.me

Hope
ctitanic said:
In think that we will see a version of logmein very soon taking in consideration that they already release join.me
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Yeah I hope so. We really love Logmein otherwise I wouldn't even be asking.

I ended up installing Windows 8 Pro on my bootcamp partition on my iMac and allowing remote desktop. I will just use it this way until Microsoft release the Pro version of the Surface.
The Surface Pro will be the sweetest technical device in a long time.

Sort of related but I have been using my Windows Home Server and it worked great for remote control of my home pc.
All free past the hardware and software purchase. Likely some old ones out there for sale.

Hardcore73 said:
I know that Logmein does not have an app to support Windows RT but I was wondering if any of you great minds can make it work on this machine. I also have a Samsung Ativ 500T with Windows 8 but I want my Surface to be my daily driver. Without Logmein this cannot happen. Not all of my clients allow the port to be open for RDP and we handle a lot of sites.
I can log in with my account but when I attach to a computer (Active X script) it make me type in the words and letters and click the Send button for every action and the screen does not refresh.
Any of you know a work around or how to make this work?
Thanks in advance!
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If you follow the direction in another thread to add logmein.com to the Flash whitelist, logmein works perfectly in the browser.

Tried that
opsmgr3774 said:
If you follow the direction in another thread to add logmein.com to the Flash whitelist, logmein works perfectly in the browser.
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Tried it and it didn't work. It still has to refresh the page everytime to do anything.
Maybe I did it wrong. Can anyone confirm that it will work correctly just like the desktop would.

Hardcore73 said:
Tried it and it didn't work. It still has to refresh the page everytime to do anything.
Maybe I did it wrong. Can anyone confirm that it will work correctly just like the desktop would.
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Same results for me.

Did anyone get Logmein working with the Flash fix?

Just give it up. ?
LMI will not work properly on RT until we get a native app.

Flash on Windows RT

Hi all
I bought the Asus Vivo Tab which has Windows RT on it. I'm aware that Windows RT / 8 Have the white-list functionality inbuilt into IE.
I've amended the iecompatdata.xml file so I could add my own sites and that has worked fine for a number of sites that weren't on the white-list yet.
My question relates to running facebook games on Windows RT. In the list, I put in URL's for certain direct facebook games (e.g. apps.facebook.com/gardensoftime ) . However, this didn't work when I put this exact URL into the .xml file and still has the adobe flash error requiring 10.0 or higher (even though Windows RT comes with 11 + ).
Could you help on:
Is it possible to put in direct links to facebook apps into xml file and them to work?
Is there any other way to view/utilise the facebook apps on the website?
Apart from waiting for the app to hit the microsoft store - is thre any other way to access them?
Thanks a lot for your help!

Flash
Doesn't Win8 RT have the desktop IE 10 app as well? In the desktop version, you can manually disable ActiveX filtering on a per site basis.

^^1(2050]=7 1337 said:
Doesn't Win8 RT have the desktop IE 10 app as well? In the desktop version, you can manually disable ActiveX filtering on a per site basis.
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That doesn't help it either. It's not ActiveX Filtering that's stopping it - I'm not sure what it is.
Some games work and some don't. A lot of the playdom games don't work (this isn't for me, it's for my mother and I'mt rying to get them working for her).
apps.facebook.com/gardensoftime or apps.facebook.com/blackwoodandbell
If you go to either of those, where the game shows up, it says, Adobe 10.0 or higher is required. I've set the compatibility listing, and there's no other pop up related to it so I'm unsure as to why it won't load up. And I can only use IE because.. windows rt. etc.
Any other advice?

viconia said:
That doesn't help it either. It's not ActiveX Filtering that's stopping it - I'm not sure what it is.
Some games work and some don't. A lot of the playdom games don't work (this isn't for me, it's for my mother and I'mt rying to get them working for her).
apps.facebook.com/gardensoftime or apps.facebook.com/blackwoodandbell
If you go to either of those, where the game shows up, it says, Adobe 10.0 or higher is required. I've set the compatibility listing, and there's no other pop up related to it so I'm unsure as to why it won't load up. And I can only use IE because.. windows rt. etc.
Any other advice?
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did you solved this issue???I have the same problem...

The future of Flash

I know there is a lot of gripe about the White list of what websites are allowed to use flash. I don't have a lot of knowledge on the topic so I wanted to fish around a bit for some information and pose some questions.
-Is it always going to be like this? Is it likely that they will release someway for users to control their own flash preferences?
-Is it likely that a 3rd party will release something that will allow a setting like this?
- [Edit] If more support for Flash is to be forthcoming, what would one expect the timeline to be? How long would it take? [I know this will mostly be speculation ]
- [EDIT] if firefox or chrome were developed for it, would they have to run off of the whitelist as well?
-As someone who hasn't touched windows 8 full, does the full OS have a similar flash limitation?
Also if this is the wrong place for this I am terribly sorry and will move the thread where ever it goes.

adashofrainbow said:
I know there is a lot of gripe about the White list of what websites are allowed to use flash. I don't have a lot of knowledge on the topic so I wanted to fish around a bit for some information and pose some questions.
-Is it always going to be like this? Is it likely that they will release someway for users to control their own flash preferences?
-Is it likely that a 3rd party will release something that will allow a setting like this?
-As someone who hasn't touched windows 8 full, does the full OS have a similar flash limitation?
Also if this is the wrong place for this I am terribly sorry and will move the thread where ever it goes.
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Hello
I don't think it will always be like this. I think someone may create a tool that automatically adds websites or simplify the process for us. Or we may even have a list that the community creates and we could possibly set our browser to auto download the list via options or script or 3rd party software. That being said, I do not think full windows will have the same flash limitation..at least not in desktop mode, because they can install whatever windows app they choose. It's an awesome device nonetheless.

equisbox said:
Hello
I don't think it will always be like this. I think someone may create a tool that automatically adds websites or simplify the process for us. Or we may even have a list that the community creates and we could possibly set our browser to auto download the list via options or script or 3rd party software. That being said, I do not think full windows will have the same flash limitation..at least not in desktop mode, because they can install whatever windows app they choose. It's an awesome device nonetheless.
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There is no doubt that I am enjoying my new toy. However I really enjoy certain facebook games, like Marvel Avenger's and Draw something, but unfortunately the flash support of Facebook doesn't extend to these. I got this to replace my laptop, it's unfortunate that I can't play these on the go any more. I suppose a time line for flash support would be another question I have.

laptop replacement...I think the surface pro is probably a better option for laptop replacement than the RT. Unless of course you only do light amount of things on your laptop, and do not care about not being able to install 'regular' windows applications such as Photoshop. Even then you could remote desktop into your PC and use those applications, Some people have reported very good results using remote desktop on the surface, but I have yet to try it or myself. Don't get me wrong though, the surface RT is a very powerful device and a lot better then android and ipad as far as productivity IMO. We are just little behind on the number of applications, and even then you could argue that most android and apple apps are useless. Nonetheless, the do have us beat by the numbers. We get a real high quality app right out the box - Office.
I was at a crossroads before I purchased my Surface. I love androids and I couldn't decide between RT or android tablet. I played with the Surface and I feel in love, Whereas the android tablet would have been just like having a bigger phone. There's not much I could do in an Android tablet that I couldn't do on my Samsung Galaxy S3.
I also though I wanted the Surface PRO at first, but upon further research, I came to the conclusion that RT was the right choice. I wanted a Tablet that can do light PC related tasks, not a full mini laptop - I have a DELL XPS 15 and multiple desktops for any 'serious' work I may need to do. The pro will probably get HOT and windy and noisy due to the fans as well. I think a lot of people who purchase the pro may end up returning it and getting a RT because I do not think the PRO will functions completely like a tablet. I may be wrong but I guess only time will tell.
I love this thing.

To answer some questions:
Win8 (x86/x64) includes the whitelist in its iecompatdata.xml file, but doesn't "respect" it (i.e. all Flash sites work).
While an official tool to control Flash usage is quite possible, don't hold your breath. A few unofficial tools already exist, but tend to be a bit limited and/or cumbersome to use (I'm working on an improved one myself).
A Windows Store app, even if it could get approved, probably wouldn't work for most people; the relevant file is outside the app sandbox, so the user would have to manually grant permission to access it.
For Facebook games (or other places where an external video is embedded manually), try adding the domain of the Flash file itself (usually found in an OBJECT tag, with an extension like ".flv"). For example, if the Flash file comes from "http://flash.facebook-games.com/IMaedAGaem/flashgame.flv", you should try adding "facebook-games.com" to the whitelist. You can try using my old scripts (working on updates for them) for this, although I can't promise they'll work in that case (haven't ever tried). The link is in my signature.

GoodDayToDie said:
To answer some questions:
Win8 (x86/x64) includes the whitelist in its iecompatdata.xml file, but doesn't "respect" it (i.e. all Flash sites work).
While an official tool to control Flash usage is quite possible, don't hold your breath. A few unofficial tools already exist, but tend to be a bit limited and/or cumbersome to use (I'm working on an improved one myself).
A Windows Store app, even if it could get approved, probably wouldn't work for most people; the relevant file is outside the app sandbox, so the user would have to manually grant permission to access it.
For Facebook games (or other places where an external video is embedded manually), try adding the domain of the Flash file itself (usually found in an OBJECT tag, with an extension like ".flv"). For example, if the Flash file comes from "http://flash.facebook-games.com/IMaedAGaem/flashgame.flv", you should try adding "facebook-games.com" to the whitelist. You can try using my old scripts (working on updates for them) for this, although I can't promise they'll work in that case (haven't ever tried). The link is in my signature.
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So what's the real hope? That more websites get whitelisted?

adashofrainbow said:
So what's the real hope? That more websites get whitelisted?
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That, or that Microsoft discontinue the whitelist

you do understand that you can easily add to the whitelist yourself right?

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you do understand that you can easily add to the whitelist yourself right?
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Yes, but it would be nice to not have to. And I'm not always 100% successful

Frustrating IE11 on Surface Pro (1st Gen)

Ever since the upgrade to 8.1, my SP has been very buggy. I sent the machine back to MS store, they did a clean install of 8.1 (i.e. not an upgrade, but an install of 8.1 from scratch), and I'm still not happy. Among the issues, my biggest gripe is that IE11 will freeze, both Desktop and Metro versions won't work. I don't understand how MS can mess up their own device. How can SP not handle MS software?

takawira said:
Ever since the upgrade to 8.1, my SP has been very buggy. I sent the machine back to MS store, they did a clean install of 8.1 (i.e. not an upgrade, but an install of 8.1 from scratch), and I'm still not happy. Among the issues, my biggest gripe is that IE11 will freeze, both Desktop and Metro versions won't work. I don't understand how MS can mess up their own device. How can SP not handle MS software?
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since you have a pro, havent you tried another desktop browser?

ricm said:
since you have a pro, havent you tried another desktop browser?
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i've noticed this freezing in chrome on Surface Pro (1st Gen) too...

your the only one with this problem, others and myself IE11 works great, try uninstalling IE11 and re-install it alone

IE11 works fine here.
I'm more dissatisfied with the fact that the pro 2 came out so soon.

Works great for me. Try opening IE in desktop version and reset all the settings.
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I'm not a Google fan, so Chrome is a no go. Does uninstall really work? From What I read online you can "add or remove windows components" but that doesn't sound like uninstalling at all (to me it's like MS hides the feature somewhere, so I add it back it will come back with the same issues).
Since I started this thread, my SP has started to randomly crash and lose internet access as well. The Wi-Fi adapter won't even turn on/off from the PC Settings. I have to restart to reset everything. This SP is beginning feel like it's more trouble than it's worth, and I've had it for only 2 months!!
I bought this machine with full protection, and yet after shelling out $1400 it seems I might end up returning this for refurbished product, which sucks big time. Yet as a student who has frequent online tasks to do (including exams), I can't be working with an unreliable machine. What to do...what to do????

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I'm not a Google fan, so Chrome is a no go. Does uninstall really work? From What I read online you can "add or remove windows components" but that doesn't sound like uninstalling at all (to me it's like MS hides the feature somewhere, so I add it back it will come back with the same issues).
Since I started this thread, my SP has started to randomly crash and lose internet access as well. The Wi-Fi adapter won't even turn on/off from the PC Settings. I have to restart to reset everything. This SP is beginning feel like it's more trouble than it's worth, and I've had it for only 2 months!!
I bought this machine with full protection, and yet after shelling out $1400 it seems I might end up returning this for refurbished product, which sucks big time. Yet as a student who has frequent online tasks to do (including exams), I can't be working with an unreliable machine. What to do...what to do????
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Then try Firefox? Or use chrome even if you're not a "Google fan" if you want a good browsing experience.
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takawira said:
Since I started this thread, my SP has started to randomly crash and lose internet access as well. The Wi-Fi adapter won't even turn on/off from the PC Settings. I have to restart to reset everything. This SP is beginning feel like it's more trouble than it's worth, and I've had it for only 2 months!!
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Sounds like it has network/WiFi hardware issues. Time to get a new machine.

Mine freezes all the time as well. I also am having issues with embedded YouTube videos on a couple sites. They will play the stupid adds and then when it comes time to watch what I have clicked on it will give me a black video screen and will only play sound.

drowens said:
Mine freezes all the time as well. I also am having issues with embedded YouTube videos on a couple sites. They will play the stupid adds and then when it comes time to watch what I have clicked on it will give me a black video screen and will only play sound.
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That seems to be a general youtube thing recently, I have had this on both my laptop and desktop (both windows 8.0 and chrome), university computer on windows 7 with firefox and on CentOS with firefox.
Seems to have been around the same time as they introduced Google+ comments that everything went to **** with their video stability.

Ie works fine for me. Except it goes to 225% zoom for no reason sometimes which is the only annoyance I face.
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