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I'm curious but do you get full desktop Internet Explorer or just the Metro version?
If you get both, can you please run a test for me? Does CSS3Please function identically in both? If it doesn't, it's because Metro IE doesn't support Flash on that site (it's not been whitelisted). Don't ask me why that site needs Flash. *shrugs*
(FYI, that site doesn't run identically in both IEs for full Windows 8)
yes it does .. both desktop IE and metro IE
It does, but the desktop mode is not true desktop. Its features and looks are like desktop but function is different. Flash is hard baked into it, there are no plugins allowed as far as I can see. Basically its the same browser with a different interface.
Your CSS3 sheet does not work in either browser.
I'm really not happy about the poor implementation of flash - your test CSS3 underscores the problem. It doesnt really perform like a desktop browser. One of my biggest hopes with the surface was to finally have a flash competent browser. But it doesn't appear to be the case. Looks like Surface Pro or a third party i5 or atom tablet with Windows 8 might be a better option for browsing.
The site appears to work OK in desktop IE10 on Windows RT, but I'm not certain how well it is supposed to work so I can't really compare.
As for the Flash thing, it's the only current ARM tablet that ships with Flash at all... and, while I'm working on a way to enable it on *any* site, for now I wrote a very simple script that automates the setting of the registry value for you, plus one that will set the permissions so that you don't have to run as Admin in order to change the value.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33412065&postcount=2
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It does, but the desktop mode is not true desktop. Its features and looks are like desktop but function is different. Flash is hard baked into it, there are no plugins allowed as far as I can see. Basically its the same browser with a different interface.
Your CSS3 sheet does not work in either browser.
I'm really not happy about the poor implementation of flash - your test CSS3 underscores the problem. It doesnt really perform like a desktop browser. One of my biggest hopes with the surface was to finally have a flash competent browser. But it doesn't appear to be the case. Looks like Surface Pro or a third party i5 or atom tablet with Windows 8 might be a better option for browsing.
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The site appears to work OK in desktop IE10 on Windows RT, but I'm not certain how well it is supposed to work so I can't really compare.
As for the Flash thing, it's the only current ARM tablet that ships with Flash at all... and, while I'm working on a way to enable it on *any* site, for now I wrote a very simple script that automates the setting of the registry value for you, plus one that will set the permissions so that you don't have to run as Admin in order to change the value.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33412065&postcount=2
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I've found it to be possible to edit the whitelist locally. Now I need to find a way to disable the whitelist at all. It should be doable as the whitelist is closely related to the Compatibility View (as I found out trough some brief research).
For now you can just add all your desired domains to the whitelist so you will get flash on all websites you want.
See this post for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961793
Dear all,
As we all know Windows RT/8's IE Metro browser has limited flash support based on a whitelist. However a lot of sites are not (yet) whitelisted and hence do not work as desired. So I did some digging in the whitelist mechanism and found a way to hack it.
Be sure to follow the following steps in respective order:
Open Desktop IE10 type ALT --> Tools --> Compatibility View settings. Now UNCHECK the last checkmark which says: "Download updated compatibility list from Microsoft". If you have done this, you will be able to locally change the whitelist without getting overridden.
WARNING: If this checkbox is checked IE will override your custom whitelist back to default on each rebout, so be sure to uncheck it..
The whitelist is named "iecompatdata.xml" and is located in this path (copy + paste in File Explorer or IE10)
Code:
%HOMEPATH%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\IECompatData\
(Alternatively open File Explorer and search in C:\ for "iecompatdata")
As suggested by danchar4, you can open and edit this file directly with Notepad by pressing WIN + R and type:
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notepad "%HOMEPATH%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\IECompatData\iecompatdata.xml"
All whitelisted flash enabled websites are located in this file inbetween the following tags:
Code:
<Flash>
[...]
<domain>zumiez.com</domain>
<domain>zynga.com</domain>
</Flash>
To add a website to the whitelist, all you do is add your desired website inside these tags as follows:
Code:
<domain>YOURDESIREDDOMAIN.COM</domain>
Add as many websites as you desire...
Now we are almost done, one last task is to delete browsing histroy. Open IE10 Metro and click WIN+I (to open settings) --> Internet Options —> Delete browsing history
And you are all set and done. Flash is now enabled in IE10 Metro for the websites you have added to the whitelist!
Of course as with any hack, attempt only at your own risk. I am not responsible in case faulty behaviour occurs... That said, it should be fine
Kind regards,
Marvin
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TROUBLE SHOOTING + FAQ
I tried to do these steps but it does not work on www.website.com...
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If the flash content is embedded as an iframe, be sure to also add the domain of the source of the flash content. E.g. be sure to also add the website where the iframe links to to the whitelisted sources, this is what will eventually determine whether flash will be activated or not for this website.
Does this method work for www.website.com?
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If 'website.com' uses a standard flash plugin (e.g. if you can view the flash content on a normal desktop with just the standard adobe flash player plugin) it will work with this method. All this method does is activating the built in flash plugin for any website you have added to the whitelist.
I can not find the file "iecompatdata.xml"
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If you can't find this file be sure to enable "show hidden files", this folder will show up now. Alternatively you can find it by searching C:\ for the query "iecompatdata", the file will now show up.
I have added www.website.com to the whitelist, but it does not work!
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Be sure to delete your browsing history and refresh the page. If it does not work now, please be sure to check if you have added the website correctly (e.g. within <domain> tags).
After I have rebooted my computer, I have lost my custom whitelist!
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Make sure you have UNCHECKED the last checkmark in "Compatibility View settings" which says: "Download updated compatibility list from Microsoft". If you have done this, you will be able to locally change the whitelist without IE overriding it automatically.
Marvin_S said:
After more thorough testing, I found that a domain with a wildcard will not work i.e.
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<domain>*.com</domain>
Does not allow flash to work on all .com sites... so this solution is out of the window, unless somebody knows if a wildcard in this list is supplied differently. I could not find anything in the documentation regarding the use of wildcards in this list, so most likely its not supported.
Alternatively, we could create some kind of "community" maintained whitelist, where anybody can just add any website and we will then point IE10 to download a whitelist from this community maintained source (instead of from Microsoft).
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Thanks so much for this work. I remember u from ur past work on wp7/7.5 on here. Thanks again. I almost called MS lite to return my surface because of this stupidity. Are they like apple or what? Trying to decide what u can do and what u can't is a v.stupid idea and whoever decided this at MS should be fired. If I wanted a prison garden, I'd buy an iPad.
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Now if I can find an easy way to block the ads ill be really happy. These ads are so invading. I didn't realize how much firefox with adblock was until I had to us IE for the last 3 days. quite annoying as it makes content loading so slow.
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Thanks so much for this work. I remember u from ur past work on wp7/7.5 on here. Thanks again. I almost called MS lite to return my surface because of this stupidity. Are they like apple or what? Trying to decide what u can do and what u can't is a v.stupid idea and whoever decided this at MS should be fired. If I wanted a prison garden, I'd buy an iPad.
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Now if I can find an easy way to block the ads ill be really happy. These ads are so invading. I didn't realize how much firefox with adblock was until I had to us IE for the last 3 days. quite annoying as it makes content loading so slow.
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Your welcome. Glad it was helpful, yes I have been less active due to obligations at the univerisity. If we find a better solution we will let you know.
Some kind of adblocker is also integrated in Internet Explorer. Go to Manage add-ons and then to Tracking Protection. Now download a couple of adblock lists. It is not as good as chrome/ff, but it gets the job done for the most part!
And take some time to get used to your new machine, its a beautiful device and only yet people are starting to explore it and develop for it. It will for sure be a highly demanded device and will most likely reach a lot of developer/hacker interest.
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Are they like apple or what? Trying to decide what u can do and what u can't is a v.stupid idea and whoever decided this at MS should be fired. If I wanted a prison garden, I'd buy an iPad
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The restriction against other browsers is equally disturbing.
See here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57431236-92/microsoft-bans-firefox-on-arm-based-windows-mozilla-says/
Even Google, who loves to push their own brand name through Chrome, saw the wisdom of allowing the customer freedom.
Lets not forget what, in large part, created Android's success - people jumped ship from Apple because they saw Android as an OS that allowed the consumer as much or as little customization as you want - you want it simple - they present a good out of box experience - you want something more, you can make changes.
We don't need two walled gardens.
Eh, that's just the restriction against third-party desktop apps. Mozilla even acknowledges that they could build a Windows Store app, and in fact they're apparently doing that (http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-57376421-264/coming-in-2012-firefox-for-windows-8s-metro/)... just for some reason they're doing it only for x86. Since Store apps, even for RT, are allowed to use native C/C++ and the compiler supports building them for ARM, I'm really not sure why they don't just recompile it for RT. Yeah, their JavaScript JIT would need to be changed, but they already have a JIT for ARM don't they? That's equally relevant for Firefox on RT in the Desktop or in "Metro" anyhow, so it would be a stupid thing to complain about. In any case, they could just fall back to interpreted JS.
Installed Chrome Browser
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Eh, that's just the restriction against third-party desktop apps. Mozilla even acknowledges that they could build a Windows Store app, and in fact they're apparently doing that (http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-57376421-264/coming-in-2012-firefox-for-windows-8s-metro/)... just for some reason they're doing it only for x86. Since Store apps, even for RT, are allowed to use native C/C++ and the compiler supports building them for ARM, I'm really not sure why they don't just recompile it for RT. Yeah, their JavaScript JIT would need to be changed, but they already have a JIT for ARM don't they? That's equally relevant for Firefox on RT in the Desktop or in "Metro" anyhow, so it would be a stupid thing to complain about. In any case, they could just fall back to interpreted JS.
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I am not sure if this adds anything to the discussion. I don't own a Windows RT machine, but I was in Office Depot the other day looking at their devices. They had a Samsung ATIV Smart PC on display. So, I messed around with if for a while. I had read that other browsers were forbidden on the RT. I thought, I wonder if Google Chrome will run? So I installed it off the internet and it worked.
My question is this: Is it just the MS RT the locks itself down? Why did the Samsung allow me to D/L and install Chrome?
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My question is this: Is it just the MS RT the locks itself down? Why did the Samsung allow me to D/L and install Chrome?
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the software restrictions should be the same, the other limitation is that you can't just download x86 software and install it on the RT because x86 doesn't run on ARM processors, are you absolutely certain you were on an ATIV tab running Windows RT or just a samsung tablet running Windows 8 with an x86 processor? If it was already possible to install chrome on Windows RT it'd be all over the internet.
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I am not sure if this adds anything to the discussion. I don't own a Windows RT machine, but I was in Office Depot the other day looking at their devices. They had a Samsung ATIV Smart PC on display. So, I messed around with if for a while. I had read that other browsers were forbidden on the RT. I thought, I wonder if Google Chrome will run? So I installed it off the internet and it worked.
My question is this: Is it just the MS RT the locks itself down? Why did the Samsung allow me to D/L and install Chrome?
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it's the samsung smart PC running on x86 hardware? (clovertrail or i5) if it is, then it's running full windows 8 and you can install any legacy apps (like chrome/ff) to your hearts content.
not to go off topic too much, but as to the earlier comment about freedom and choice being the reason android gained so much marketshare so fast. it has more to do with the combination of cheap handsets and carrier penetration, at a time when the iphone was locked to one network in the US and blackberry was slowly falling out of the consumer mindshare. yes, people like us who frequent xda might have moved to it because of the openness of the platform, but the mainstream market really doesn't care about that.
Guys, we are wandering too far off topic. I appreciate the discussion, but please let it be (somehow) related to ways of enabling flash on IE10 on Win RT and 8. The limitations of Windows RT are better to be discussed in appropriate threads
Did anybody do an experiment with this compatibility list? Or tried to deactivate it in its entire? A systems admin or IT pro might no some more details on this?
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Guys, we are wandering too far off topic. I appreciate the discussion, but please let it be (somehow) related to ways of enabling flash on IE10 on Win RT and 8. The limitations of Windows RT are better to be discussed in appropriate threads
Did anybody do an experiment with this compatibility list? Or tried to deactivate it in its entire? A systems admin or IT pro might no some more details on this?
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I added several websites and it worked fine. I'm a bit bummed as I think MS will find a way to over write the xml file in a masquerade windows update. As far as deactivation is concerned, I thought about making a backup of the xml file, and completely deleting the original to see if it works at all. What do u think?
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I added several websites and it worked fine. I'm a bit bummed as I think MS will find a way to over write the xml file in a masquerade windows update. As far as deactivation is concerned, I thought about making a backup of the xml file, and completely deleting the original to see if it works at all. What do u think?
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It might work, but I assume it will just deactivate compatibility view in its entire and hence disable flash for all sites. But its worth the try Let me know if it works!
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It might work, but I assume it will just deactivate compatibility view in its entire and hence disable flash for all sites. But its worth the try Let me know if it works!
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Well I created a local account to test this. Backup the file and deleted the original. All the blacklisted sites didn't work. So its not 100% possible yet but I bet there's a reg option or even a security policy (secpol.msc) that will turn this check off completely. Perhaps a bit of poke around will yield some insights. I looked in secpol and didn't find anything. So that leaves the registry up for grabs unless they're pulling that wp hidden / reg lock down thing.
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Well I created a local account to test this. Backup the file and deleted the original. All the blacklisted sites didn't work. So its not 100% possible yet but I bet there's a reg option or even a security policy (secpol.msc) that will turn this check off completely. Perhaps a bit of poke around will yield some insights. I looked in secpol and didn't find anything. So that leaves the registry up for grabs unless they're pulling that wp hidden / reg lock down thing.
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i bet its hidden, since if you want to add a developer website to test flash on you will have to create a reg key in a non existing folder in the ie registry settings called FLASH, so I guess thats the hidden folder. But I wonder if it is possible to somehow trace these folders. I personally dont know anything about the entire mechanism behind the comapibility view. I just discovered it by accident by figuring out where the whitelist was located. So far it seems that it does not take wildcards for domains and also shutting down the list in its entire does not seem to work. We can try to add a 'blank' domain but I doubt it will work.
Doesn't work for me
I am doing just as instructed. I do not know why it doesn't for me. I tried movie2k.to and myp2p, ibliz. None of them work
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It might work, but I assume it will just deactivate compatibility view in its entire and hence disable flash for all sites. But its worth the try Let me know if it works!
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More likely is that it will download the default list, or the current list. I don't really see compatibility view as an issue. What you are getting is the ability to use the major Flash-enabled sites without any of the ad sites, built-in as opposed to using third-party solutions.
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I am doing just as instructed. I do not know why it doesn't for me. I tried movie2k.to and myp2p, ibliz. None of them work
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Make sure you follow each step correctly. It has been tested and confirmed working by lots of people, on both Windows RT and Windows 8. Make sure you delete browsing history.
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Alternatively, we could create some kind of "community" maintained whitelist, where anybody can just add any website and we will then point IE10 to download a whitelist from this community maintained source (instead of from Microsoft).
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Here you can add sites: http://minecraft.digiex.org/flash/
And here is the list itself: http://minecraft.digiex.org/flash/iecompatviewlist.xml
Working with Nuduaa on a auto downloader script to autoupdate it every now and then on the surface.
jessenic said:
Here you can add sites: http://minecraft.digiex.org/flash/
And here is the list itself: http://minecraft.digiex.org/flash/iecompatviewlist.xml
Working with Nuduaa on a auto downloader script to autoupdate it every now and then on the surface.
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Awesome! Now I just have to wait for MS to ship me a damn Surface
If it is done (and there is some automation) I will add it to the first post!
Thank you for maintaining the list. This is great guys... good work!
Does anybody know if Windows RT allows the creation of custom extensions?
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I am following the steps yet I can't find the place in c drive as described on my surface.
Ok! I keep hoping I'll see some neat way to get my desktop apps on my Surface on here! However, I found a pretty cool solution myself!
First I set up remote desktop with my windows 7 PC and my surface. That was cool. It felt clunky and slow. However, I looked up how to do RemoteApps. I thought it looked complicated but worth it. While stumbling around I found a utility that basically sets it up for you!
1. First setup remote desktop access and free the port for remote desktop. I will not describe it here.
2. I used this utility! Kim Knight's remoteapp tool. Google it. XDA won't let me post a link cause I've never posted before. I just wanted to share my findings.
3. I now can use Utorrent, Photoshop and even my silly Pidgin! Eventually I'm going to use Maya! It works great with hardly any lag! The only lag I get is when I'm saving to my tablet vs the remote computer. I haven't been able to get a browser to work yet but I have invested that much time into it. I'm sure other people will figure it out. Whats cool is Utorrent will save to my tablet. Yah download speeds are slower but expected!
Nice find
This is indeed a great find! I've played with RemoteApps before on the server editions of Windows, but it's quite tricky to get it to work with one server and not a huge enterprise! Being able to use it in this way is just great. Plus we can probably work out an XML file that will populate the apps into the RemoteApp control panel / metro RDP client automatically.
However, I'm having a problem with this on Win 8 (as a host). It seems to all setup ok, but upon connecting (from Win8 or Surface RT) after credentials, cert etc are accepted the RDP client just vanishes. I see Kim Knight's page says it works with Win 8 CP - has anyone tested it with Win 8 RTM? If MS have broken this with Win8 I think I'll have to setup a Win7 box/VM just for this purpose!
I had issues getting it working on Windows 7 pro at work, so i swapped up to Enterprise and it worked great. I haven't tested it at home yet off my system. I haven't used this but for my home fileserver, but you can take it a step further and patch RDP to work for multiple concurrent connections.
http://www.redmondpie.com/remote-de...-easy-way-with-this-native-windows-rdp-patch/
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Microsoft .Net Framework 3.5
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Remote Desktop 7 enabled on host
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Remote Desktop 7 client on client
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Windows 7 Enterprise or Ultimate (or Vista Pro or XPproSP3 - untested)
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I had issues getting it working on Windows 7 pro at work, so i swapped up to Enterprise and it worked great. I haven't tested it at home yet off my system. I haven't used this but for my home fileserver, but you can take it a step further and patch RDP to work for multiple concurrent connections.
http://www.redmondpie.com/remote-de...-easy-way-with-this-native-windows-rdp-patch/
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With concurrent connections, can you remote app and use desktop still with same login?
Edit: Tried it myself and it works. So now I can remote app in while I'm still logged in my desktop and it won't boot me off, allowing me to use them simultaneously with the same login.
I can confirm this works with Windows 8 Enterprise, but not Pro. There is, of course, no Ultimate. This is all a bit of a shame as I can't use RemoteApp on my primary home PC, which also runs Media Centre (which can't be added into W8 Enterprise).
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With concurrent connections, can you remote app and use desktop still with same login?
Edit: Tried it myself and it works. So now I can remote app in while I'm still logged in my desktop and it won't boot me off, allowing me to use them simultaneously with the same login.
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Mine keeps booting me off... Asks me to sign out the other user before logging in. Any tips on how you were able to achieve that?
Mandy
mandy3d said:
Mine keeps booting me off... Asks me to sign out the other user before logging in. Any tips on how you were able to achieve that?
Mandy
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Did you install the concurrent RDP patch?
I installed it on Windows 7 Ultimate and I can use remote apps on my Surface and use desktop at the same time.
Guilde posted for remote apps on Windows 8 ENT
I have a post up on how to get this working on Window 8.
http://mattalter.wordpress.com/2012/11/09/how-to-enable-remote-apps-in-windows-8-and-windows-rt/
Thanks
Matt
Brilliant. Worked like a charm. No idea how, without a server running the remote app role, but it does.
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I have a post up on how to get this working on Window 8.
Thanks
Matt
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Does it work with a win 8 pro instead of an entreprise edition ?
No
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Brilliant. Worked like a charm. No idea how, without a server running the remote app role, but it does.
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RemoteApp is just a remote desktop connection to a specific application, it's been around since Windows XP SP3. It's also how XP mode in Windows 7 does its magic.
I know what remote desktop is! But remoteapp - seamless windowed app on client - is pretty impressive.
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The remote app program does work under Windows 8, but you need to run it as administrator otherwise it's crashtastic.
After that it works perfectly.
One other thing is that you should apply the patch to allow multiple co-current remote desktop sessions to work on your machine, here's the patch... http://www.tenniswood.co.uk/technol...current-remote-desktop-sessions-in-windows-8/
That's not legal.
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i would love to get this working on windows 8 pro. does anyone know of a way to get it working?
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Hey all, if anyone can help me get remote desktop working on my surface it would be greatly appreciated. If a developer out there could set up an app to get this done easier, could be a moneymaker, I know id pay for it.
After scouring youtube, and the web, I found a lot of different walkthroughs on how to set up a home pc as a remote server. Unfortunately, I really don't know what im doing and cant figure out why it isn't working. Im running WinXP Pro SP3 on a few year old laptop (I bought the thing during the Vista debacle, and down graded to xp for software reasons - I am an architect and needed my AutoCAD and various graphic intensive programs)
These are the steps that I have tried, all to no avail
- I go to control panel, System, Remote, turn on Remote Desktop.
- open Linksys router configuration, and try to set up Port Forwarding
- this is where it really gets confusing for me, and I don't think that I am doing it correct. I know I need to open the port, I go to Applications and Gaming, and enter RDP, Im not sure of the port number, and what else to do here
- cmd, ipconfig - I enter all information - ip address, DNS, Gateway, etc?
I then found out that in order to really get this working, I needed a static IP address - Im not sure how to do this, but I found a couple posts, and a youtube video suggesting using DynDNS to get this working as a host. I signed up, and am still not able to connect.
Any help would be appreciated - Im not great with this stuff.....I never really played with networking, before....Please help me get my Surface working. Its possible im not entering the address correctly in the Surface Remote Desktop App.
Thank You!!
If the surface is on your home wifi, it should be able to rdp (remote desktop) to the XP system no problem.
Only need the router ip mapping / translation if using the Surface outside the house on another Internet connection
I know there is a lot of gripe about the White list of what websites are allowed to use flash. I don't have a lot of knowledge on the topic so I wanted to fish around a bit for some information and pose some questions.
-Is it always going to be like this? Is it likely that they will release someway for users to control their own flash preferences?
-Is it likely that a 3rd party will release something that will allow a setting like this?
- [Edit] If more support for Flash is to be forthcoming, what would one expect the timeline to be? How long would it take? [I know this will mostly be speculation ]
- [EDIT] if firefox or chrome were developed for it, would they have to run off of the whitelist as well?
-As someone who hasn't touched windows 8 full, does the full OS have a similar flash limitation?
Also if this is the wrong place for this I am terribly sorry and will move the thread where ever it goes.
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I know there is a lot of gripe about the White list of what websites are allowed to use flash. I don't have a lot of knowledge on the topic so I wanted to fish around a bit for some information and pose some questions.
-Is it always going to be like this? Is it likely that they will release someway for users to control their own flash preferences?
-Is it likely that a 3rd party will release something that will allow a setting like this?
-As someone who hasn't touched windows 8 full, does the full OS have a similar flash limitation?
Also if this is the wrong place for this I am terribly sorry and will move the thread where ever it goes.
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Hello
I don't think it will always be like this. I think someone may create a tool that automatically adds websites or simplify the process for us. Or we may even have a list that the community creates and we could possibly set our browser to auto download the list via options or script or 3rd party software. That being said, I do not think full windows will have the same flash limitation..at least not in desktop mode, because they can install whatever windows app they choose. It's an awesome device nonetheless.
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I don't think it will always be like this. I think someone may create a tool that automatically adds websites or simplify the process for us. Or we may even have a list that the community creates and we could possibly set our browser to auto download the list via options or script or 3rd party software. That being said, I do not think full windows will have the same flash limitation..at least not in desktop mode, because they can install whatever windows app they choose. It's an awesome device nonetheless.
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There is no doubt that I am enjoying my new toy. However I really enjoy certain facebook games, like Marvel Avenger's and Draw something, but unfortunately the flash support of Facebook doesn't extend to these. I got this to replace my laptop, it's unfortunate that I can't play these on the go any more. I suppose a time line for flash support would be another question I have.
laptop replacement...I think the surface pro is probably a better option for laptop replacement than the RT. Unless of course you only do light amount of things on your laptop, and do not care about not being able to install 'regular' windows applications such as Photoshop. Even then you could remote desktop into your PC and use those applications, Some people have reported very good results using remote desktop on the surface, but I have yet to try it or myself. Don't get me wrong though, the surface RT is a very powerful device and a lot better then android and ipad as far as productivity IMO. We are just little behind on the number of applications, and even then you could argue that most android and apple apps are useless. Nonetheless, the do have us beat by the numbers. We get a real high quality app right out the box - Office.
I was at a crossroads before I purchased my Surface. I love androids and I couldn't decide between RT or android tablet. I played with the Surface and I feel in love, Whereas the android tablet would have been just like having a bigger phone. There's not much I could do in an Android tablet that I couldn't do on my Samsung Galaxy S3.
I also though I wanted the Surface PRO at first, but upon further research, I came to the conclusion that RT was the right choice. I wanted a Tablet that can do light PC related tasks, not a full mini laptop - I have a DELL XPS 15 and multiple desktops for any 'serious' work I may need to do. The pro will probably get HOT and windy and noisy due to the fans as well. I think a lot of people who purchase the pro may end up returning it and getting a RT because I do not think the PRO will functions completely like a tablet. I may be wrong but I guess only time will tell.
I love this thing.
To answer some questions:
Win8 (x86/x64) includes the whitelist in its iecompatdata.xml file, but doesn't "respect" it (i.e. all Flash sites work).
While an official tool to control Flash usage is quite possible, don't hold your breath. A few unofficial tools already exist, but tend to be a bit limited and/or cumbersome to use (I'm working on an improved one myself).
A Windows Store app, even if it could get approved, probably wouldn't work for most people; the relevant file is outside the app sandbox, so the user would have to manually grant permission to access it.
For Facebook games (or other places where an external video is embedded manually), try adding the domain of the Flash file itself (usually found in an OBJECT tag, with an extension like ".flv"). For example, if the Flash file comes from "http://flash.facebook-games.com/IMaedAGaem/flashgame.flv", you should try adding "facebook-games.com" to the whitelist. You can try using my old scripts (working on updates for them) for this, although I can't promise they'll work in that case (haven't ever tried). The link is in my signature.
GoodDayToDie said:
To answer some questions:
Win8 (x86/x64) includes the whitelist in its iecompatdata.xml file, but doesn't "respect" it (i.e. all Flash sites work).
While an official tool to control Flash usage is quite possible, don't hold your breath. A few unofficial tools already exist, but tend to be a bit limited and/or cumbersome to use (I'm working on an improved one myself).
A Windows Store app, even if it could get approved, probably wouldn't work for most people; the relevant file is outside the app sandbox, so the user would have to manually grant permission to access it.
For Facebook games (or other places where an external video is embedded manually), try adding the domain of the Flash file itself (usually found in an OBJECT tag, with an extension like ".flv"). For example, if the Flash file comes from "http://flash.facebook-games.com/IMaedAGaem/flashgame.flv", you should try adding "facebook-games.com" to the whitelist. You can try using my old scripts (working on updates for them) for this, although I can't promise they'll work in that case (haven't ever tried). The link is in my signature.
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So what's the real hope? That more websites get whitelisted?
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So what's the real hope? That more websites get whitelisted?
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That, or that Microsoft discontinue the whitelist
you do understand that you can easily add to the whitelist yourself right?
mmian said:
you do understand that you can easily add to the whitelist yourself right?
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Yes, but it would be nice to not have to. And I'm not always 100% successful
All,
Please find the attached Windows RT native binaries for QupZilla 1.4.3. QupZilla is lightweight multiplatform browser using Qt.
http://www.qupzilla.com/
I had to attach this in 2 parts because its quite large (well.. QtWebKit is large I should say). You'll need to remove the trailing ".7z" before extracting -- XDA didn't like files with a .001 extension.
I haven't compiled all the plugins, but the browser itself appears to work great! Enjoy!
Cheers!
EDIT: my bad.. the original attachments didn't have SSL or correct image support.. fixed now. Please re-download.
EDIT2: i've noticed that bookmarks, HTML5 video/audio, and the RSS reader appear to be not working correctly -- I'm investigating why that is. FWIW -- Qupzilla on Windows8 doesn't support HTML5 video/audio out of the box either. Flash simply won't work because the FireFox flash plugin isn't ported to ARM by Adobe.
EDIT3: Bookmarks and RSS reader now working -- please re-download. Still tackling HTML5 video/audio support... its currently a 'broken' feature in my Qt webkit build.
Very cool! Which JS engine is it using? I'm guessing it much be interpreted, unless you managed to get it to JIT to THUMB-2...
GoodDayToDie said:
Very cool! Which JS engine is it using? I'm guessing it much be interpreted, unless you managed to get it to JIT to THUMB-2...
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Yeah.. interpreted. The engine is the QtScript / JavaScriptCore in Webkit from Qt.
http://qt-project.org/wiki/JavaScript
Would be nice to get it to JIT to THUMB2... but honestly I'm looking to fix all the HTML5 issues and getting a fully functioning replacement for IE. Performance isn't my main concern right now.
Cheers!
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Bookmarks and RSS reader support is now fixed. I've uploaded new binaries, please re-download Sorry for the problems. I'm still working on HTML5 audio/video support.. fingers crossed I can get it sorted out. Dealing with Qt using Visual Studio is not fun.
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Just thought I'd update you all to know that I haven't forgotten about getting this working with HTML5... just the opposite actually. I've burned many hours trying to get h264 encoded video to work with QtWebKit. If you troll on google, you can quickly find out that its not as easy as it seems.. and Windows RT just makes matters worse.
Long story short, I have all the bits building correctly but the wmf engine doesn't seem to work correctly on Windows RT. I'm not sure why that is. I've fixed at least 2 bugs that was making the browser crash, but its going to take a serious debugging session to figure out exactly what I need to fix and/or rewrite to get functioning video. I haven't given up though.
In other news, I've added enough features to QtWebkit such that Qupzilla is scoring higher than the built in IE browser in terms of feature set... so once I get HTML5 video working.. it should be a great browser.
I can't get this to work for some reason. I keep getting a WinError.
I removed the trailing .7z and I am opening it with Extractor RT from the Window store. I have downloaded both files.
crkdslider said:
I can't get this to work for some reason. I keep getting a WinError.
I removed the trailing .7z and I am opening it with Extractor RT from the Window store. I have downloaded both files.
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Did you try extract it with 7-zip for ARM?
Yeah, I just removed the extension, then opened the .001 file as an archive using 7-Zip; it extracted very easily.
I take I need to be jailbroken to install this? Because I tried to install 7zip for arm, but kept getting signature issues, and two unzip apps I tried from the app store weren't able to open it.
Yes, of course. That's the point of the jailbreak (installing apps like this).
Thank you for clearing that up.
SSL Not Working
Hello. I know this thread is old, but I was checking to see if there is anything I need to do to get SSL working on Qupzilla. I'm able to load up normal URLs, but SSL isn't working. I downloaded the latest that is pinned to OP, btw.
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Hello. I know this thread is old, but I was checking to see if there is anything I need to do to get SSL working on Qupzilla. I'm able to load up normal URLs, but SSL isn't working. I downloaded the latest that is pinned to OP, btw.
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It has not been updated since then
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Qiangong2 said:
It has not been updated since then
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Thanks for the reply!
An alternative to IE sure would be useful
I am NOT able to use the browser. All sites automatically use https . Help
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I am NOT able to use the browser. All sites automatically use https . Help
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IE is currently our only option for browsing the internet
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Vivaldi just released a ARM Version of their browser, usable on Rasberry Pi. Is it possible to get it on our Win RT Machines?
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Vivaldi just released a ARM Version of their browser, usable on Rasberry Pi. Is it possible to get it on our Win RT Machines?
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Possibly, but only once the source code for the ARM version is released. It currently isn't available.