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Devs...We need to talk..

Dear Devs,
I'm sure most of you know the HTC Wildfire-S right...? Unfortunately...XDA is promoting it..and some devs are attempting to port ICS on it.. T.T I wish someone can speak to this matter and at least cheer me up...

Sigh, why did I didn't saw this post earlier.. anyway he's right guys, at least some of us should try and take a look with the ICS ports and see if there's something the devs can do and help, it's about helping guys. You're not alone.

Yup god dammit you are right. Our device is a lot better but due to the fact that samsung didn't. Promote our device we have this situation in our hand. Plus we do not have many developers for out devices.
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By the way, which are the most popular devices? I mean in the midfield Prices

Rodsengard said:
By the way, which are the most popular devices? I mean in the midfield Prices
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Galaxy y galaxy ace mini and many more
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bro Jhayzt, you may want to give some time to look at this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393447
don't lose hope~ Praytush saves the day!

Byebye forum

I gonna go change my phone for a xperia play so i gonna leaf this tread ...... iam not completly sure but maybe xd
So thx too all dev's here they made good roms and hope that the battery is beter later...
So change my phone for xperia play or not? ?
Grtz
Martin
Ps iam from holland sorry for my english
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I hear Sony is as bad also when it comes to updates, read the xda Sony forum before you commit, I waited 2 month after I got rid of the horrible O3D, now I have the Samsung Note and I couldn't be happier, I have been reading this forum for the last 2 month to see if there will be a fix, my friend is still stuck with one, he is using it with froyo bb, and CM9 for the LGP-925.
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gamesz2 said:
I gonna go change my phone for a xperia play so i gonna leaf this tread ...... iam not completly sure but maybe xd
So thx too all dev's here they made good roms and hope that the battery is beter later...
So change my phone for xperia play or not? ?
Grtz
Martin
Ps iam from holland sorry for my english
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Are we really going to get a new thread from each person who abandons this phone?
Where are the mods?
I swear this is the only forum that has so many bull**** posts.
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I have watch to the phone and its lot better with battery use and i love gaming so the phone is great ..
Also it has ics BETA ..
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Yeah Sony is a good choicr. I also have a NEO V. Nice phone , no issues and they will release ICS next month.
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I'm also leaving the p925 for a galaxy s2. I'm within my 30 day limit to exchange it. I loved this phone and I was hoping it would be the exception when it comes to ghost calls. Sadly it wasn't, and I'm glad the ghost call happened within the 30 day limit.
Life's good with a company that actually supports their products. Bye bye lg, hello samsung.

Please sign this petition about ICS update

Please take little time to sign this petition in the hope of getting an ICS update in our galaxy s 4g phone:
it's in change.org, I can't post the full link because I'm new member.
We believe it's capable of running ice cream sandwich.

We already are gonna get the update, just not right away
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mierkat09 said:
We already are gonna get the update, just not right away
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Dude are you serious? Samsung told everyone that the original Galaxy S line wasn't gonna get it due to hardware limitations. They can't get it with touchwiz so we don't get it at all

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brandonc0526 said:
Dude are you serious? Samsung told everyone that the original Galaxy S line wasn't gonna get it due to hardware limitations. They can't get it with touchwiz so we don't get it at all
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That was what they said at first, but supposedly they changed their mind. There was a thread about it a while back
Found the link for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579167
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karl7777 said:
Please take little time to sign this petition in the hope of getting an ICS update in our galaxy s 4g phone:
it's in change.org, I can't post the full link because I'm new member.
We believe it's capable of running ice cream sandwich.
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Why do you think the sgs4g needs to get ics? My phone is fast got extremely great battery life and tons of other things. Do you just want ics so you could have the latest android flavor or do you think or know it will make our phones that much better. I'm not trying to be a smartass just curious why ppl are this rilled up about ics.

I think the only reason is because "others have it".
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Great words blazen you know maybe ics has some quiet interesting features but our developers make than our phone from crappy to gingerbread better than ics that is one the reasons I want to start developing because I feel that I got skills to make some good stuff for the phone ( like themes and guides only things that i have finished) and other reason is because here our developers are way better than samsungs horrible costumer service....anyway every sgs4g user most appreciete the developers work even if the projects are not finished like ics port and aosp port because that makes people more happy and they know that there works are awesome

blazen2000 said:
Why do you think the sgs4g needs to get ics?
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I believe that most want it because it is the newest OS and most believe it will be an improvement, much like GB compared to Froyo... Which is understandable considering the developers here are going full bore in a attempt to port ICS.
Being one of those that was satisfied with froyo, I have to admit I am even more satisfied with GB... But as for your question, I personally hope that it is released for our phone because if it is, so to would the source be released (just imagine what the developers could accomplish with it).
Just my 2 cents in the well.
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mierkat09 said:
That was what they said at first, but supposedly they changed their mind. There was a thread about it a while back
Found the link for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579167
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You do realize that's a post from someone in the forums right? No word from Samsung USA. You cannot depend on what a customer service rep says, they sit behind the computer all day and still do not know a thing about the products they are supposed to be supporting. They are just trying to shut us up about it already. If the OG galaxy s gets just a value pack, it'd be hard to imagine them bending backwards to give us full ICS

Mwuhahahahahaha
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Well looks like bhundev is cooking up something. Devs are the real work horses around here.

I'd much rather see ICS from Team Acid than from Samsung

farmerbb said:
I'd much rather see ICS from Team Acid than from Samsung
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Haha, best quote today =)...me, too...Samsung (customer sevices) is sucks =]] (but their devices are not lol :">)
Thanks to Jt1134 and Bryan men

I don't particularly care for ICS ....
I'm quite happy with GB.
Besides.... ICS is just about outdated with Jellybeans on the way LOL.
Can't wait to see what our devs can do with jellybeans ;-)

jt1134 said:
Mwuhahahahahaha
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You rock dude! Can't wait!

Shortbus-Driver said:
I don't particularly care for ICS ....
I'm quite happy with GB.
Besides.... ICS is just about outdated with Jellybeans on the way LOL.
Can't wait to see what our devs can do with jellybeans ;-)
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Pfft, you're gonna poop your pants :victory:

bhundven said:
Pfft, you're gonna poop your pants :victory:
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Ill get my diapers ready

If I am not mistaken the T-Mobile version is the same as the Telus S2 in Canada. If it is I would not be in any hurry to upgrade to ICS. My own experience and experience of others as reported on the Howardforums has not been stellar. Problems with apps freezing and battery life going in the toilet are common. Looks great, just doesn't work very well. I would hold off until these issues are addressed. I usually always wait to do an update until I here some feedback but this time I jumped in and am now regretting it.
Just a word to the wise

[Q] Need advice on buying older phone possibly ATRIX??

Hi guys, I need an advice on buying an older model smart phone. I don't want to spend more than $200 on it and I was thinking of getting Atrix 4G that costs less than $200. Is it still good idea to buy this older model since it's not going to get an ice cream sandwich upgrade? Or does this really matter? What would be the lifespan left of this phone? I don't need this phone to play any games, I just need it to browse, email and skype. Do you guys have any other suggestions?
Thanks for your time.

Anything older than ICS is going to be pretty lackluster in my opinion - you might check to see what, if any, ROMs are available for the phones you're looking at.
Anything you can get for $200 is probably at the end of its "lifespan" already - not supported. Lifespan that you can use it - well, I imagine ICS will be supported for a while, but anything less is, to me, risking having apps you want to use not support it any more in the future.
You can get some decent phones at that price. You could probably get a used Galaxy Nexus - which would be a good choice as it will continue to be supported by Google likely for some time. It will just take a bit of hunting and sniping on eBay to get one at that price that's in decent condition.

Hi erikmarko,
I've bought a Motorola Atrix in november (160€≈200$). It's a great phone and a cool developpement tool. But CM10/AOKP ROM it's not fine for it. I don't know why there are many graphic bug (for example, i can't make a benchmark -> fc on 3d test).
But if you install CM7/9, you'll get an awesome phone for gaming and HD videos playing. For your requirements, what do you think about an Xperia x10 ? Cheaper than Atrix but great too for you if you want only check your mails etc...
Or if you have worries about lifespan, you can listen Pennycake and check eBay for a used Nexus or Nexus S (Google will support it longer than Motorola supports Atrix).
Sorry for my bad English
GoL LuM
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GoL LuM, I have couple of questions for you. That CM7/9 is it custom rom that you can upload to the phone? And does it run ICS software when I upgrade to it? Does Xperia x10 run ICS?
GoL LuM said:
Hi erikmarko,
I've bought a Motorola Atrix in november (160€≈200$). It's a great phone and a cool developpement tool. But CM10/AOKP ROM it's not fine for it. I don't know why there are many graphic bug (for example, i can't make a benchmark -> fc on 3d test).
But if you install CM7/9, you'll get an awesome phone for gaming and HD videos playing. For your requirements, what do you think about an Xperia x10 ? Cheaper than Atrix but great too for you if you want only check your mails etc...
Or if you have worries about lifespan, you can listen Pennycake and check eBay for a used Nexus or Nexus S (Google will support it longer than Motorola supports Atrix).
Sorry for my bad English
GoL LuM
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You should buy an atrix HD (new) , its a phenomenal device with not much development. If you buy an old phone, buy the HTC Google nexus one (2010).
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Guys, I was afraid that if I get a phone that is stuck on Gingerbread and let's say new version of skype comes out it will require ICS to run. Do I need to worry about that? Or does gingerbread OS still have few years left?

erikmarko said:
GoL LuM, I have couple of questions for you. That CM7/9 is it custom rom that you can upload to the phone? And does it run ICS software when I upgrade to it? Does Xperia x10 run ICS?
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I don't understand your question. CyanogenMod is a custom ROM. Your can upload and install it to the phone. All you need is just a unlocked bootloader (there are tutorials on Google). Take a tour in the "Motorola Atrix 4G" section on XDA.
CM7=Gingerbread
CM9=Ice Cream Sandwich
CM10=Jelly Bean
If you need specific apps that require ICS, just install CM9.
For the Xperia x10, it runs CM9/CM10.
For more information, don't hesitate to ask.
GoL LuM
Sorry for bad english
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Aha! thanks for explaining this to me GoL LuM. Sorry my question maybe did not make sense because I'm a total newbie when it comes to phones.
GoL LuM said:
I don't understand your question. CyanogenMod is a custom ROM. Your can upload and install it to the phone. All you need is just a unlocked bootloader (there are tutorials on Google). Take a tour in the "Motorola Atrix 4G" section on XDA.
CM7=Gingerbread
CM9=Ice Cream Sandwich
CM10=Jelly Bean
If you need specific apps that require ICS, just install CM9.
For the Xperia x10, it runs CM9/CM10.
For more information, don't hesitate to ask.
GoL LuM
Sorry for bad english
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I don't said that your question didn't make sense. I just have some difficulty to understand english sometimes ^^
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No problem GoL LuM, I learned something from your answer. Oh and by the way you live in a cool city. I love Paris I have been there two times and will visit it again. Maybe this time Catacombes will be open I had no luck last time
GoL LuM said:
I don't said that your question didn't make sense. I just have some difficulty to understand english sometimes ^^
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erikmarko said:
No problem GoL LuM, I learned something from your answer. Oh and by the way you live in a cool city. I love Paris I have been there two times and will visit it again. Maybe this time Catacombes will be open I had no luck last time
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I'm absolutely agree with you.
If you want more informations about Paris' catacombs, maybe this website will help you :
http://www.catacombes-de-paris.fr/english.htm
Hope you'll enjoy Paris
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I <3 rien, I'm parisien

Is the development of this phone dead ?

Hi everybody, i have been watching the android development forum and noticed that since marcelusbe attempt of cm10 porting dating last august no great innovation has happened. Should we consider our phone rom dead ?
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Ironandroid said:
Hi everybody, i have been watching the android development forum and noticed that since marcelusbe attempt of cm10 porting dating last august no great innovation has happened. Should we consider our phone rom dead ?
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Well development is slow but it isn't dead. Hillbeast and Moikop are working on kernel 3.4. Marcelusbe found job in other country, so maybe after few months he will continue his work.
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zygis10 said:
Well development is slow but it isn't dead. Hillbeast and Moikop are working on kernel 3.4. Marcelusbe found job in other country, so maybe after few months he will continue his work.
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Thanks but following the threads i was aware of these news. The reason of my post was that due to the rarity of the hw of our phone and the very few developers still working on it and looking at the development going on on other phones my impression is that we cannot expect too much in the future. Hope i am wrong

Unfortunately, the phone is 'old'.
I have an i5801 until today, and I stop to use, and the development was one of the reasons. Is great phone, it is. But the most ROMs that we have (CM9, CM10), doesn't connect with the camera, and when does, you can't see what are you taking because of the black image. Also have freeze lag's all the time because of the memory.
I don't blame the developers, they did an AWESOME work, but is time to move on. The new systems are to heavy for our i5800.
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fucore said:
Unfortunately, the phone is 'old'.
I have an i5801 until today, and I stop to use, and the development was one of the reasons. Is great phone, it is. But the most ROMs that we have (CM9, CM10), doesn't connect with the camera, and when does, you can't see what are you taking because of the black image. Also have freeze lag's all the time because of the memory.
I don't blame the developers, they did an AWESOME work, but is time to move on. The new systems are to heavy for our i5800.
I totally agree with you. That is why I posted this thread. I think it is time we state that we cannot expectanything more than GB
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I totally agree with you. That is why I posted this thread. I think it is time we state that we cannot expect anything more than GB

Ironandroid said:
I totally agree with you. That is why I posted this thread. I think it is time we state that we cannot expect anything more than GB
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That's true I think that untill kernel 3.4.x is ready we can not expect a fully working cm9 or cm10 and IF they get everything working with kernel 3.4.x it will be more stable i think... But still the developers do a great work I only would say keep it up
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If you dont want, dont use the phone and thats end of it. No reason can justify putting this kind of threads!
Stop complaining because what we have got is much more than what those officials could ever give us in dreams.
Respect developers work.
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Abhijeetsinghvsf said:
If you dont want, dont use the phone and thats end of it. No reason can justify putting this kind of threads!
Stop complaining because what we have got is much more than what those officials could ever give us in dreams.
Respect developers work.
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I didnt see any complaining. He just asked a simple question so please treat forum member with respect and if you dont have anything helpful to say then dont say anything at all.
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MicroGeek said:
I didnt see any complaining. He just asked a simple question so please treat forum member with respect and if you dont have anything helpful to say then dont say anything at all.
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With all your wisdom, Mr. Whatever, do you really think this thread is helpful to anybidy in any respect. I sincerely feel this thread is a polluting one. And also if you respect drvelopers who have been working more than what many other forums could see, you should atleast not support this kind of junk threads.
Think before what you react, better understand the whole thing and then react!
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I can just say 1 thing, that if samsung ever takes interest in xda, we would have had a stable ics by now
But with all the hard work that all the developer are doing here, our phone has definitely become more worthy than the cost at which we all got in the past

Abhijeetsinghvsf said:
If you dont want, dont use the phone and thats end of it. No reason can justify putting this kind of threads!
Stop complaining because what we have got is much more than what those officials could ever give us in dreams.
Respect developers work.
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I am truly sorry if my post caused the perception of disrespect towards the developers. I absolutely appreciate the amazing work done by all the developers in keeping this phone uptodate as possible. Even if it is not my everyday phone I am still a proud owner of the GT-I5800 and I am still using it. I am very anxious so to see it still "efficient" :good:. As correctly stated by MicroGeek i was asking more expert members than me to confirm or disregard my feeeling of "end of the game" situation. Apologies if I hurted somebody's feeling. It was not my intention

fucore said:
Unfortunately, the phone is 'old'.
I have an i5801 until today, and I stop to use, and the development was one of the reasons. Is great phone, it is. But the most ROMs that we have (CM9, CM10), doesn't connect with the camera, and when does, you can't see what are you taking because of the black image. Also have freeze lag's all the time because of the memory.
I don't blame the developers, they did an AWESOME work, but is time to move on. The new systems are to heavy for our i5800.
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And even if we manage to fully port everything, its not great because of a small screen; the phone's main weakness and my only regret for buying it.

Maybe something is moving...... at least in cm 7