Hi everybody, i have been watching the android development forum and noticed that since marcelusbe attempt of cm10 porting dating last august no great innovation has happened. Should we consider our phone rom dead ?
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Ironandroid said:
Hi everybody, i have been watching the android development forum and noticed that since marcelusbe attempt of cm10 porting dating last august no great innovation has happened. Should we consider our phone rom dead ?
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Well development is slow but it isn't dead. Hillbeast and Moikop are working on kernel 3.4. Marcelusbe found job in other country, so maybe after few months he will continue his work.
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zygis10 said:
Well development is slow but it isn't dead. Hillbeast and Moikop are working on kernel 3.4. Marcelusbe found job in other country, so maybe after few months he will continue his work.
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Thanks but following the threads i was aware of these news. The reason of my post was that due to the rarity of the hw of our phone and the very few developers still working on it and looking at the development going on on other phones my impression is that we cannot expect too much in the future. Hope i am wrong
Unfortunately, the phone is 'old'.
I have an i5801 until today, and I stop to use, and the development was one of the reasons. Is great phone, it is. But the most ROMs that we have (CM9, CM10), doesn't connect with the camera, and when does, you can't see what are you taking because of the black image. Also have freeze lag's all the time because of the memory.
I don't blame the developers, they did an AWESOME work, but is time to move on. The new systems are to heavy for our i5800.
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Unfortunately, the phone is 'old'.
I have an i5801 until today, and I stop to use, and the development was one of the reasons. Is great phone, it is. But the most ROMs that we have (CM9, CM10), doesn't connect with the camera, and when does, you can't see what are you taking because of the black image. Also have freeze lag's all the time because of the memory.
I don't blame the developers, they did an AWESOME work, but is time to move on. The new systems are to heavy for our i5800.
I totally agree with you. That is why I posted this thread. I think it is time we state that we cannot expectanything more than GB
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I totally agree with you. That is why I posted this thread. I think it is time we state that we cannot expect anything more than GB
Ironandroid said:
I totally agree with you. That is why I posted this thread. I think it is time we state that we cannot expect anything more than GB
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That's true I think that untill kernel 3.4.x is ready we can not expect a fully working cm9 or cm10 and IF they get everything working with kernel 3.4.x it will be more stable i think... But still the developers do a great work I only would say keep it up
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If you dont want, dont use the phone and thats end of it. No reason can justify putting this kind of threads!
Stop complaining because what we have got is much more than what those officials could ever give us in dreams.
Respect developers work.
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Abhijeetsinghvsf said:
If you dont want, dont use the phone and thats end of it. No reason can justify putting this kind of threads!
Stop complaining because what we have got is much more than what those officials could ever give us in dreams.
Respect developers work.
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I didnt see any complaining. He just asked a simple question so please treat forum member with respect and if you dont have anything helpful to say then dont say anything at all.
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MicroGeek said:
I didnt see any complaining. He just asked a simple question so please treat forum member with respect and if you dont have anything helpful to say then dont say anything at all.
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With all your wisdom, Mr. Whatever, do you really think this thread is helpful to anybidy in any respect. I sincerely feel this thread is a polluting one. And also if you respect drvelopers who have been working more than what many other forums could see, you should atleast not support this kind of junk threads.
Think before what you react, better understand the whole thing and then react!
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I can just say 1 thing, that if samsung ever takes interest in xda, we would have had a stable ics by now
But with all the hard work that all the developer are doing here, our phone has definitely become more worthy than the cost at which we all got in the past
Abhijeetsinghvsf said:
If you dont want, dont use the phone and thats end of it. No reason can justify putting this kind of threads!
Stop complaining because what we have got is much more than what those officials could ever give us in dreams.
Respect developers work.
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I am truly sorry if my post caused the perception of disrespect towards the developers. I absolutely appreciate the amazing work done by all the developers in keeping this phone uptodate as possible. Even if it is not my everyday phone I am still a proud owner of the GT-I5800 and I am still using it. I am very anxious so to see it still "efficient" :good:. As correctly stated by MicroGeek i was asking more expert members than me to confirm or disregard my feeeling of "end of the game" situation. Apologies if I hurted somebody's feeling. It was not my intention
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Unfortunately, the phone is 'old'.
I have an i5801 until today, and I stop to use, and the development was one of the reasons. Is great phone, it is. But the most ROMs that we have (CM9, CM10), doesn't connect with the camera, and when does, you can't see what are you taking because of the black image. Also have freeze lag's all the time because of the memory.
I don't blame the developers, they did an AWESOME work, but is time to move on. The new systems are to heavy for our i5800.
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And even if we manage to fully port everything, its not great because of a small screen; the phone's main weakness and my only regret for buying it.
Maybe something is moving...... at least in cm 7
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Well its been an experence with you guys really. But at the moment im prob going to follow in krylons footsteps and be purly rootzwiki sorry its not xda... Xda is a great site. But with THe constant Trolling pretty much almost nit pick the roms to death hey guys to build audiophile do you realize its taken me litterly as much time as i spent at work i spent more time helping people install roms fix roms fix pretty much any issue. We are Devs we are not servents. Yes we try to take your advice and wants but we have to think of the community as a whole not the individual.
Sorry if my roms didnt live up to peoples expitatons As i have always stated im not a rom person but i can build them but sorry people have expetations that i cant meet and or features i wanna bring that i been working on i cant give it to you instantly. I will still support all of Team acid rom bug fixes i will allow my work to be reposted from rootzwiki to xda but as a whole I cant read though 50 pages of trollfest to see if someone has a issue i opened up a irc chat room in hopes we could give live support and whatnot to people and pretty much other then 5 people isnt used.. NOt saying its a requirement.
I wish u all the best of luck take care
RaverX3X-Team Acid - Developer
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thanks for all the help you hace given us and the roms you worked on...you are a great dev! Thanks for everything!
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you guys are welcome
Looks like I better get signed up over there... I appreciate what you have done for this community
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Thanks for what you have done. Just registered over there
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Thanks for everything! Best wishes on your new endeavors raver.
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I went over as soon krylon360 did... Love my xda sgs4g brothers and sisters.
You have personally helped me many times raver. I'm spinnakernut at rootzwiki.
Thank You and see you there!
Double posted, my bad
I know there are a lot of dumbasses and annoying noobs on XDA but to me the good members completely outweigh the bad members here. We can always ignore the dumb members. It's just a common side effect that happens when a forum gets big and popular. And I guarantee once RootzWiki gets more popularity it will as well get its fair share of obnoxious members.
There's slow development going on as it is for this phone over here, but I don't see what moving there would do when there's nothing interesting for this phone in that forum except for "A post your home screen thread"...
Like I said, there's more good members here than bad. Your decision is yours and that's fine, but I'm sure I speak for everyone when i say that I hope you come back. Or at the very least be on both forums.
Anyways, good luck! And thanks for the continuing contribution.
it wouldnt be so bad if xda impimented a ignore user function to block seeing there posts
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it wouldnt be so bad if xda impimented a ignore user function to block seeing there posts
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I will miss you here, having you on xda made it feel like a great place to be. Losing krylon and now you all of the good developers are leaving for one reason or another. You made my phone better, and you were going to make gingerbread awesome. I have much respect for all of the developers and the work that they do, its time consuming and sometimes frustrating, and everyone seems to demand more and more.
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dam you part four.
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Amen to that... I think devs should be able to mange permissions to the threads they start... Lol
I'm over on rootzwiki already...
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I'm a noob and you helped me my first time ever on xda thanks again,and the best of luck to you.
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as i said ill still support my roms..
if xda god i wish they would put in a ignore button id whole hardly stay .... Its just not fare to the actuall members that want to make this a better place as i said its not xda and yes i could ingore the igonrant and im sure once that place gets bigger there will be people like that but honestly
they have a block user button
not saying there better or xda is worse just to sift though so many pages of childish antics to get to real questions is almost a job in itself...
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You do great work don't let any other ass's get to you. Thanks for everything and catch ya on the flip flop.
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I've only had my phone for about a month and I can honestly say that your work and team acid's work has made me become more interested in android development. It's sad to see you go because some troll could not keep his mouth shut but thanks again for all the contributions you've made.
Good job..helped me,a billlion times without cockiness..good luck bruhh
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I guess most of us will be following you guys to RootzWiki. Thanks for all the work you've done RaverX3X.
Btw, isn't there an ignore list for this forum? I was reading some post and one of the guys were saying "if I never respond to your post, that's because I put you on my ignore list."
I was wondering when we might get ICS cuz the ics development which was going on here was shut down.
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People wont leave the developers alone. Asking questions and reporting bugs on a alpha so we might get it when its done.
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By the summer
Development hasn't been shut down. Keeping the masses up to date has. Too many people that can't/won't read.
XDA Mobile
Me sad
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I just hope developers can give me a nice Christmas gift and give them at least $30 donation.
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but would it be possible for them to post whats happening then lock the tread again?
I know, im getting so jealous of everyone talking about the g nexus!
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!
the developers pretty much couldn't ignore all the repetitive questions and morons in general. to be honest it was somewhat silly for htem to close the thread and not let anyone know, but hey its their project.
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the developers pretty much couldn't ignore all the repetitive questions and morons in general. to be honest it was somewhat silly for htem to close the thread and not let anyone know, but hey its their project.
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These types of comments are why I'm glad they closed it! When a stable ice rom is ready for public testing they will open a new thread.
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d12unk13astard said:
These types of comments are why I'm glad they closed it! When a stable ice rom is ready for public testing they will open a new thread.
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Exactly + 1
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The OP of the ICS thread also posted where you can find updates at. Which i check daily. So if you want updates read the OP in the ICS thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
Not saying it's as drastic, but I love reading this.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
Not saying it's as drastic, but I love reading this.
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Wow... I love that guy now. Had to give him thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
Not saying it's as drastic, but I love reading this.
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That made my morning.
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You are glad they closed it because I made a comment about them not being like most typical developers and ignore a question already answered? I never used the rom, I understood that it wasn't ready
. You do understand though that these guys aren't the only developers in the world right? All it takes is ignoring the dumbasses like yourself and answering important questions. I enjoy the phone I have and could hardly care if they get an ics out first or if the cm team does. I am patient and have no reason to be impatient
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Dameon87 said:
That made my morning.
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Had to give you thanks for all the hardwork you done and the time you spent on it. THANKS!!
Wow......Thanks for a nice read........Now I know what wish should I make to santa ...... Kick those dumb guys who ask so many stupid questions!!!
Azuske posted on his twitter that the same persistent issues as before remain (sound, data, camera, mass storage) and that our phones will probably not see ICS until CM9.
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Azuske posted on his twitter that the same persistent issues as before remain (sound, data, camera, mass storage) and that our phones will probably not see ICS until CM9.
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I guess I can ask Santa to get us ICS for Christmas........I realized the pain and amount of time a person has to spend to develop a rom. But some people don't understand the time they take to develop these roms. Kudos to the developers at xda.
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Thanks to carlsanderson1986 who posted the system folder of ICS prada, we could hopefully get some sort of ICS on the optimus3d
https://rapidshare.com/files/2781060780/system.7z
ps: this is NOT a rom, for developers ONLY!!
pps: Please dont ask for Eta's , or start another thread requesting an eta, when the developers are ready and confident they have a working build im sure they will post it in the "Optimus3d Development" thread
the Prada ICS source has been released , which will help with the porting .http://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensource-detail.jsp
Does this mean ICS today for the Optimus 3D??? :laugh:
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Does this mean ICS today for the Optimus 3D??? :laugh:
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No its not that freaking easy quite asking
It takes weeks even months of work to port a rom like this over its not just copy and paste
xstokerx said:
No its not that freaking easy quite asking
It takes weeks even months of work to port a rom like this over its not just copy and paste
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Quit*. If you're going to be rude at least use proper grammar. And you can chill out, I don't know what your problem is. I'm just trying to be a little hopeful and Optimistic. I appreciate what these devs are doing to get ics on our phones. Quit being so pessimistic and ruining everybody's curiosity.
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Quit*. If you're going to be rude at least use proper grammar. And you can chill out, I don't know what your problem is. I'm just trying to be a little hopeful and Optimistic. I appreciate what these devs are doing to get ics on our phones. Quit being so pessimistic and ruining everybody's curiosity.
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Don't ask for ETA. Ever.
Personally, me and a couple devs sat down and thought about starting a build.
We've got a half working kernel, but posts like "eta" always make us feel like dropping the project. It's extremely annoying.
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Don't ask for ETA. Ever.
Personally, me and a couple devs sat down and thought about starting a build.
We've got a half working kernel, but posts like "eta" always make us feel like dropping the project. It's extremely annoying.
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How? If anything that would make me happy that people are excited and curious for the build to come out. Thats what posts are for tbh. To read and ask questions. If it bothers you so much I would just ignore the threads and work. I'm not trying to be rude but I just don't see why people being curious would upset somebody so much they want to drop all their hardwork. Anyways glad for the hard work you all are doing. Keep it up. A lot of people are excited and curious, nothing to get annoyed about.
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How? If anything that would make me happy that people are excited and curious for the build to come out. Thats what posts are for tbh. To read and ask questions. If it bothers you so much I would just ignore the threads and work. I'm not trying to be rude but I just don't see why people being curious would upset somebody so much they want to drop all their hardwork. Anyways glad for the hard work you all are doing. Keep it up. A lot of people are excited and curious, nothing to get annoyed about.
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It's just an etiquette thing towards devs. It's just impolite especially because it'll be out when it's out.
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Evanizer, buddy, developers dont like "eta's" because if they answer to one, another pops up asking the same question, plus people use that as a definate and start complaining when its not delivered. When the time is right the developers will give us news, they are giving the most important asset to this community...their time.
All we can do , is give them support and now and again some support ...GOOD LUCK DEVELOPERS!!
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Evanizer, buddy, developers dont like "eta's" because if they answer to one, another pops up asking the same question, plus people use that as a definate and start complaining when its not delivered. When the time is right the developers will give us news, they are giving the most important asset to this community...their time.
All we can do , is give them support and now and again some support ...GOOD LUCK DEVELOPERS!!
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Got it. Well then maybe we should just stick to posting in "ICS Dreams", thats the thread I check the most often.
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It's just an etiquette thing towards devs. It's just impolite especially because it'll be out when it's out.
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its funny cause its how we all treat lg... Lol except the devs here are not paid to do it...
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its funny cause its how we all treat lg... Lol except the devs here are not paid to do it...
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Its like when you're kids keep askin are we there yet
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Trekfan422991 said:
its funny cause its how we all treat lg... Lol except the devs here are not paid to do it...
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Well that's why it's different when it's a hobby vs a job
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Lg posted prada ICS source.
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Iodak could you post the link please, so i could put it on the front page
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Iodak could you post the link please, so i could put it on the front page
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http://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensource.jsp
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thanks
I am one of the testers for EdgeHoods new ROM: ENVY. Im writing this to give you all a heads up on how GREAT this rom is! I honestly believe it is the best rom i have tried..and i've tried a few already and just honestly its the best. Its snappy, fast and just all around great! Im getting unbelievable battery life...about 14-20 hours(depending on if i use my phone alot) on 1 charge while on wifi. Its really truly great and when the rom comes out for everyone i highly recommend that all try it and see for yourself. If any of the testers wanna post something go for it because i know you guys love it too! BE ENVIOUS!
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I am one of the testers for EdgeHoods new ROM: ENVY. Im writing this to give you all a heads up on how GREAT this rom is! I honestly believe it is the best rom i have tried..and i've tried a few already and just honestly its the best. Its snappy, fast and just all around great! Im getting unbelievable battery life...about 14-20 hours(depending on if i use my phone alot) on 1 charge while on wifi. Its really truly great and when the rom comes out for everyone i highly recommend that all try it and see for yourself. If any of the testers wanna post something go for it because i know you guys love it too! BE ENVIOUS!
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Dude. You could have just posted it in the thread and not made a new one...
Well he's trying to get his 10 posts. Someone who said just post in the general with thoughts was wrong. I suggest you help the community with answers to receive your 10 posts rather than spamming it with this thread that will only ly end up getting locked.
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What i dont get is why xda made it this confusing but hey stuff happens and i guess thats that...sorry for "spamming" the general threads..even tho i see others posting similar stuff like i posted mine but its watever i guess ill just post elsewhere next time..thnx for the heads up and ALMOST friendly advice :
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What i dont get is why xda made it this confusing but hey stuff happens and i guess thats that...sorry for "spamming" the general threads..even tho i see others posting similar stuff like i posted mine but its watever i guess ill just post elsewhere next time..thnx for the heads up and ALMOST friendly advice :
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Well yeah people do it, but it doesn't make it right.
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Well just because you say it aint right...doesnt mean it aint right...right???
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Well just because you say it aint right...doesnt mean it aint right...right???
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No. Its definitely not right.
You sure
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Actually yes you got through a whole process while you sign up, hopefully you read that and the video of how not be a noob. We don't wanna say you are but like it causes problems on developers and the forums if we have constant clutter with all these types of threads that can be considered useless if there have already been solves threads of the same exact problem and such. I don't wanna sound mean but I don't really enforce this, this is just the way this site it. To be honest, I actually think we won't have much people on here if it weren't for one click roots and such meaning less noobs who end up having problem for their lack of rudimentary knowledge towards the android world.
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Leave the poor guy alone guys.
He just wanted to post his thoughts on the beta builds of the ROM.
There may be another thread for it, but at some point we're all beginners and learning how to use a new system (forum system in this case). Let him get his post count up and if you don't like this thread or if you insist on complaining about this thread, just let it die out and don't post your complaints here.
I agreed StrumerJohn's comment. Stay out and stop being ass on the poor guy alone.
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Leave the poor guy alone guys.
He just wanted to post his thoughts on the beta builds of the ROM.
There may be another thread for it, but at some point we're all beginners and learning how to use a new system (forum system in this case). Let him get his post count up and if you don't like this thread or if you insist on complaining about this thread, just let it die out and don't post your complaints here.
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I agreed StrumerJohn's comment. Stay out and stop being ass on the poor guy alone.
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I was never being an ass just stating something that xda expects of new users and problems that could possibly occur if things aren't read. You just need to get your things straight.
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I was never being an ass just stating something that xda expects of new users and problems that could possibly occur if things aren't read. You just need to get your things straight.
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My sentiments exactly.
No, I am saying you all guys used be NOOB when we came to XDA forum to learn something new. Right? So Let's give OP a break and it's cool if someone want say it about the beta ROM. Nothing harm to anyone.
Please don't take this offense and I am not perfect grammar since my english is my secondary language.
Leave him alone guys lol, there really isn't any reason that this CAN'T be posted in General. If you think that it should be posted in the ROMs thread, that's fine, but there's no reason to team up on the poor guy about it.
I'm just glad someone's enjoying the ROM.
There was one early on by Mr Hyde which I installed and have been using ever since. That was discontinued about a year ago though. Was just wondering if there's been any development since.
See...there's hardly any way to get answers here,,, I mean thank God for the geniuses touching down to earth ever so often with there brilliant work but then they flutter back into their bong smoke filled dens to game on or whatever other strange itch they're wanting to scratch at that particular moment...lol. but answers for the old folks....hehehe not a chance!
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sch-i705+rom
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I like you shakatu. you've got a sense of humor I can relate with. :good:
Yeah, I can be a little sarcastic. But he DID say people like me used to be super active then disappear to play video games and aren't helpful anymore. Not that we have a life and are actually, you know, devoting 12+ hours a day sometimes 6 days a week to working full time and advancing our education...
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Uh,,,,, that would be a NO then.because none of those lead to a working Rom or a working anything for that matter,,, development for this particular device is dead......that was why I made my remark...because most of you guys go to great links to impress yourselves but add very little to helping any of us that aren't as savvy,,,,, that's pretty cool animation but I see you really haven't followed any of those links in that real cool way to say nothing.....
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Uh,,,,, that would be a NO then.because none of those lead to a working Rom or a working anything for that matter,,, development for this particular device is dead......that was why I made my remark...because most of you guys go to great links to impress yourselves but add very little to helping any of us that aren't as savvy,,,,, that's pretty cool animation but I see you really haven't followed any of those links in that real cool way to say nothing.....
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C'mon man, don't be a troll. There are very few owners/users of your particular tab. Which is why there is little development for it. Have you seen Shakatus contributions to the community of P51xx.Take a look for yourself, and then try spouting off. If he, or any other, of the great devs around here actually had one of your models, maybe they may be able to figure something out. But, he doesn't. So he wont. Unless of course you want to send him yours to try, but I can guess the answer to that. Bashing people around here for problems that you are having (or unwilling to do anything about, except lean on others ie: learn something for yourself) is unacceptable and will be reported. No trolls allowed......next!
I wasn't trying to be crass....I will be happy to donate or whatever in order to advance the work on this model....but there's no current anything for this device.....I've ran down every link and thread trying to find anything useful to break VZW's hold on this device, so it's not a matter of not researching or being lazy....my apologies.
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