Running a title-only search for 'android forum' yields quite some many results.
it seems like many on xda want their own android subforum. polls show that most think it makes sense. I agree with that because for people not interested in anything linux based it's totally annoying to have android threads everywhere. on the other hand if you're looking for some linux based / android image it's easier to have a special place for that.
So it's overall a good step imho.
The reason for posting this thread is that I have some thought on that:
It might be better to put one main forum instead of many subfora for linux/android:
Many htcs with the same chip share the same linux codebase and can run the same android/ubuntu/whatever roms. Also most of the msm7*/qsd8* device forums have at least one linux/android topic thread. You will end up with one linux/android subforum for each device.
=> development processes and rom distribution are eased when focused in one place.
It's not ideal to create *android*-only subfora.
Since there are many linux distributions you have quite some stuff that won't fit an android subforum.
Let's say you made some ubuntu image for the blackstone you want to share. Blackstone android rom development is the wrong place then because ubuntu is, just like android, linux based. And not vice versa.
Same if you have a question about a linux driver on your blackstone. Same problem. That'd be linux kernel related and has nothing to do with android.
=> It is better to use different naming. e.g. linux & android rom development. This will reduce confusion and make the splitting into wince / linux based topics more efficient.
My 2 cents
regards
Doesn't this do the trick?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=564
svetius said:
Doesn't this do the trick?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=564
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I forgot to mention that I'm talking about the devices that support linux non officially!
I'm sorry for causing confusion.
Well still your answer would make sense to my first point.
Forget about that. I guess it is better to have those device specific linux/android subforums in the device main forums! Cause that's where people are looking for them.
Still concerned about the second thing about the subforum names though. Could you give me a thought on that (now that you know I'm referring to the non-official linux/android devices)
I think they should really be Linux (and android) subforums, and not android only.
Ok, so just to be clear, you think that we ought to rename the device-specific Android forums for WinMo device (like Blackstone, Rhodium, etc) to include Linux? So instead of:
Touch HD Android Development
it would be:
Touch HD Linux (Android, etc) Development?
Like that? I know that some other operating systems that run from Linux have been shown running on some of these Windows Mobile devices, but 90% of the Linux dev work is being done on Android. Perhaps this may be a good idea in the future if we see Ubuntu/etc development pick up, or do you think we need the change today?
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Ok, so just to be clear, you think that we ought to rename the device-specific Android forums for WinMo device (like Blackstone, Rhodium, etc) to include Linux? So instead of:
Touch HD Android Development
it would be:
Touch HD Linux (Android, etc) Development?
Like that? I know that some other operating systems that run from Linux have been shown running on some of these Windows Mobile devices, but 90% of the Linux dev work is being done on Android. Perhaps this may be a good idea in the future if we see Ubuntu/etc development pick up, or do you think we need the change today?
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Yes I would suggest to change the current subforum names to something like that. So that people know everything <device>-linux related can be posted there with any userspace they like. Still it is important to put android in the name because many people just look for android and don't know that it's based on linux. So the pattern you propose seems perfect.
I agree. Obviously most of the users want to run android userspace on their HTCs now and that's what the biggest part of the discussions seems to be about. Still I would change it in the proposed way already for two reasons.
With the current titles not only discussion about non-android userspace is excluded but also everything kernel related. And the kernel is very important. Of course also for android.
Also, people who want to develop non-android linux based stuff like ubuntu for HTCs might not be much attracted seeing a (seemingly) android-only forum. They will rather publish/discuss their stuff elsewhere because it might appear to them that only android related things can be released in the xda forums.
Thanks a lot for the attention payed to this!
Plz rename Android section to Linux?
Or give us a Ubuntu section like Andriod got its own (Still both Linux thou)
Im happy for all who want Android on there WM, BUT for me i have second to non intrest on getting it on my HD2, like WM 6.5.3 and NRG keeps making WM more and more perfect everyday (Love to NRG and...HOW The hell do you do it!=)
My intressts are fully on Ubuntu news and just plainly, talk about buggs and leave feedback and we are drowning in Andriod threads. And atm i feel there is no way to find peace and calm to engage people to this. Ubuntu or other Linux work could grow, given only a chance.
Anyway i hope this getts a solution since its trying my patience. So i agree totally with Dcordes, we need a change
I know this thread is a little old, but I think that changing the forum names to include linux in the title should be looked at again. In the HD2 Android Dev Forum there was a thread asking about porting meego to the HD2, and it got a quick response from a member saying "maybe when we have a meego dev forum" and continued to post responses against it, when there are several people interested in meego or maemo. Its all linux and the forum should be called HD2 Linux/Android Dev or something similar to avoid confusion.
I feel some of the users won't get it that *Device* Linux Section is the one which contains Anroid ! They might start asking for a seperate Android section again.
IMHO.
I'm currently reading on becoming an Android developer. But I've caught an interest in hacking Android phones. My biggest question is how do you learn how to root Android phones??????? I hope someone will be nice enough and point me in a good direction. My current Android device is an CDMA HTC Hero and saw reports of 2.2 being ported on it but everything is not working. I figure this could be my first project Finishing the 2.2 on the Hero but how do I do that. So if any one can PLEASE help.
Android is based on the Linux platform. I would imagine that most of the people that are doing the heavy work on android know quite a bit about Linux, as it pertains alot to these devices.
You should learn C and C++. Also, you should read up on the Linux Kernel and all you can about Android's framework. I don't know specifically about the Hero, but it's probably not all working due to driver issues.
This is a HUGE undertaking to a new coder.
Could you please rephrase your question about android hacking please? Like do you mean you wish to be able to come up with your own exploits and find your own ways to root a phone, or do you mean something along the lines of using current exploits and developing your own roms and such?
~PsyCl0ne
Hi all,
I know this thread is quite old but I wanted to have some info about the rooting topic.
My question is about the general development necessary to root a phone, sdks and tools needed.
I know already a bit of Linux and C, C++ but I don't know how the rooting work exactly. It seemed to me it is a program that runs when connected to the phone in the boot loader menu.
I think it would be useful a guide made by using an example, like the code used to root the Nexus 1 (I own one so I could put that in practice)
Thanks
me too.. same with conte79
I know this question should be obvious but I am not a developer so I don't know for sure. I am wanting to get a lg 800g for my dad and put android on it. The os it has on it looks like android but it isn't. I was wondering if it would be possible to put android on it so the phone could be more compatible possibly.
The most likely answer is 'no'. The device doesn't appear to be nearly powerful enough to support Android. Even if it were, you'd need massive community support to port Android over, and it doesn't appear that that exists for this device.
To answer your subject-line question more generally, in the vast majority of cases, this is not possible. The rare exceptions usually involve devices that use derivatives of Android, like the Nook Color.
We have great android ports on our hp touchpad including cm7 and miui . I'd say this device definitely would not be easy, but hey, its android so you never know what magic will happen. I hope you are able to find a community of people willing to help you with that phone. Not sure what kind of experience you have, but why not see where you can get on a port for yourself and then ask some recognized developers what direction you need to head. If you paid, im sure a few devs would do it for you
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I have had the s3 since the release date a few months back and am quite satisfied so far. Ive been using android since the G1. Though the new ICS/JB builds are nice, I still like the feel of the old build.
Is it possible to revert back to the Android 1.5 Cupcake on my GS3? If so, how would I go about doing so....?*
Im rooted, unlocked bootloader, stock Rom, currently running ICS 4.0.4
Why you post here when you already posted this in the general? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35719549
Doesn't even belong here in the first place this a question belongs in q&a
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Well sir, according to Merriam-Webster "General" means involving, relating to, or applicable to every member of a class, kind, or group. Which in this case, my question would fit the "general" guidlines.
According to Merriam-Webster "Development" is defined by the act or process of*developing*growth; progress. In this case, I would like to my phone to progress from the regression it has taken with these newer android builds.
We could argue all day and say what goes where and why, but this was my logic behind my reasoning to post in these sections.
I understand that the S3 was built on ICS, but dont see why its not able to run older versions of firmware like 1.5 cupcake. My analogy is like the PlayStation 3. It has capabilities to play ps2 and ps games. And brand new labtops have capabilities of running windows 95... In theory, cupcake should work on this phone.
What is preventing me from doing this? If someone could use a good analogy, I might be able to comprehend this situation from a different point of view.
Nice diss up there but first off when the ps3 and windows run older games, they run the latest OS and emulate the older core OS to run them. Therefore, you'd have to run ICS and emulate cupcake, unless of course someone will port it which I honestly can never see happening. The work it would take would not be worth the finished product
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Also, just an FYI, development is where people post ROMs
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This is about as close as you're going to get. The chances of it working are probably slim to nill, but thats why we have Odin!
http://www.androidcentral.com/how-manually-install-android-15-cupcake-us-version
RealMuphukkinG said:
Well sir, according to Merriam-Webster "General" means involving, relating to, or applicable to every member of a class, kind, or group. Which in this case, my question would fit the "general" guidlines.
According to Merriam-Webster "Development" is defined by the act or process of*developing*growth; progress. In this case, I would like to my phone to progress from the regression it has taken with these newer android builds.
We could argue all day and say what goes where and why, but this was my logic behind my reasoning to post in these sections.
I understand that the S3 was built on ICS, but dont see why its not able to run older versions of firmware like 1.5 cupcake. My analogy is like the PlayStation 3. It has capabilities to play ps2 and ps games. And brand new labtops have capabilities of running windows 95... In theory, cupcake should work on this phone.
What is preventing me from doing this? If someone could use a good analogy, I might be able to comprehend this situation from a different point of view.
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To start off there are a ton of things that would need to be ported to work with cupcake. Could you load in on your phone? Possibly, but you would not have a full function phone (ie. data, sms, wifi, and possibly camera).
The easier route would be to request a Cupcake theme for ICS, which might already exist for custom launchers like ADW and GoLauncher.
please post in the correct forum.
try a theme or buy an older phone.
ddurandSGS3 said:
please post in the correct forum.
try a theme or buy an older phone.
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Seems like a dev question to me
Y'all be postn' in a troll thread
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RealMuphukkinG said:
I have had the s3 since the release date a few months back and am quite satisfied so far. Ive been using android since the G1. Though the new ICS/JB builds are nice, I still like the feel of the old build.
Is it possible to revert back to the Android 1.5 Cupcake on my GS3? If so, how would I go about doing so....?*
Im rooted, unlocked bootloader, stock Rom, currently running ICS 4.0.4
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This should be in q and a but unless you do this port yourself it is not gonna happen. Cupcake was not meant to run on these kind of high end phones. It sounds like you just want the look and feel anyway so you should just look for themes. Android has progressed a lot since then and I can't imagine why you would want that but each to their own. Theming is the closest you're gonna get unless you do it yourself
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RealMuphukkinG said:
Well sir, according to Merriam-Webster "General" means involving, relating to, or applicable to every member of a class, kind, or group. Which in this case, my question would fit the "general" guidlines.
According to Merriam-Webster "Development" is defined by the act or process of*developing*growth; progress. In this case, I would like to my phone to progress from the regression it has taken with these newer android builds.
We could argue all day and say what goes where and why, but this was my logic behind my reasoning to post in these sections.
I understand that the S3 was built on ICS, but dont see why its not able to run older versions of firmware like 1.5 cupcake. My analogy is like the PlayStation 3. It has capabilities to play ps2 and ps games. And brand new labtops have capabilities of running windows 95... In theory, cupcake should work on this phone.
What is preventing me from doing this? If someone could use a good analogy, I might be able to comprehend this situation from a different point of view.
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Thanks for being a smartass and looking in the Merriam Webster for definitions. Really dude? Development is for RELEASES only, regardless of what the Dictionary says. And it would be pretty close to impossible to put a 3 yr old software on a phone that was made to have a locked bootloader. If you have nostalgia just go install a theme and a very old version of ADW.
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RealMuphukkinG said:
Well sir, according to Merriam-Webster "General" means involving, relating to, or applicable to every member of a class, kind, or group. Which in this case, my question would fit the "general" guidlines.
According to Merriam-Webster "Development" is defined by the act or process of*developing*growth; progress. In this case, I would like to my phone to progress from the regression it has taken with these newer android builds.
We could argue all day and say what goes where and why, but this was my logic behind my reasoning to post in these sections.
I understand that the S3 was built on ICS, but dont see why its not able to run older versions of firmware like 1.5 cupcake. My analogy is like the PlayStation 3. It has capabilities to play ps2 and ps games. And brand new labtops have capabilities of running windows 95... In theory, cupcake should work on this phone.
What is preventing me from doing this? If someone could use a good analogy, I might be able to comprehend this situation from a different point of view.
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Yeah but really this isn't the dictionary thus a a developing website it has it's guidelines to follow what goes where, I don't remember seeing that whatever the dictionary says follows on here maybe I should go look something up for you? Come on dude, just follow what xda says, unless you never cared to read them, instead of trying to flame me with stupid dictionary words.
PS3 was given the feature of backwards compability, it wasn't just something it could do out of the ordinary because not all types of PS3 do it. Your just go with fallacies that this this therefore this? I mean you gotta see not everything goes backwards.
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I never really understood why people always insisted on telling the op to post in the right section.
Once posted, the op can do nothing to move it.
Don't waste you time and troll , hit the report button and the mod will explain it very well in their own way.
Reported thread.
bmatty14 said:
Seems like a dev question to me
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There's is no such thing as a dev question.. keep the questions out of the Damn development section!
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jmichaels1982 said:
I never really understood why people always insisted on telling the op to post in the right section.
Once posted, the op can do nothing to move it.
Don't waste you time and troll , hit the report button and the mod will explain it very well in their own way.
Reported thread.
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In the hopes to stop repeat offences
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Thread Closed:
Duplicate of his other thread. Please refer to it-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35719549
Also development is for development only, thanks for your cooperation.
~ The-Captain
first and foremost, i'd like to start by saying that this is my very first post for an android device and my knowledge level as far as messing around with the software goes is about -10 so please go easy if i'm talking like a total fool. and apologies if this is a new post, i'm new to the forums and i looked to the best of my abilities and found no thread related to this
now onto the important stuff; i'd like to know if there is a way for me to turn my physical HP slate 7 extreme into a virtual Tegra Note 7? i mean, they're almost identical, but not the same. one major issue i have with the S7E is that i have a feeling that HP won't be supporting the tablet very well (and i couldn't get my hands on a TN7 and i needed a non-samsung stylus tablet ASAP) . they're already over a month late on the 4.3 update that nVidia released.
so could someone please point me to a dummy's guide to "gut" the software from S7E and install TN7 software so that i can use this tablet as if i bought it from EVGA or Advent Vega or something? i want to be able to receive OTA updates from nVidia as soon as they become available.
thanks for reading
PS: if this is posted in the wrong section, my apologies, and please move this to the appropriate forum