I have had the s3 since the release date a few months back and am quite satisfied so far. Ive been using android since the G1. Though the new ICS/JB builds are nice, I still like the feel of the old build.
Is it possible to revert back to the Android 1.5 Cupcake on my GS3? If so, how would I go about doing so....?*
Im rooted, unlocked bootloader, stock Rom, currently running ICS 4.0.4
Why you post here when you already posted this in the general? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35719549
Doesn't even belong here in the first place this a question belongs in q&a
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Well sir, according to Merriam-Webster "General" means involving, relating to, or applicable to every member of a class, kind, or group. Which in this case, my question would fit the "general" guidlines.
According to Merriam-Webster "Development" is defined by the act or process of*developing*growth; progress. In this case, I would like to my phone to progress from the regression it has taken with these newer android builds.
We could argue all day and say what goes where and why, but this was my logic behind my reasoning to post in these sections.
I understand that the S3 was built on ICS, but dont see why its not able to run older versions of firmware like 1.5 cupcake. My analogy is like the PlayStation 3. It has capabilities to play ps2 and ps games. And brand new labtops have capabilities of running windows 95... In theory, cupcake should work on this phone.
What is preventing me from doing this? If someone could use a good analogy, I might be able to comprehend this situation from a different point of view.
Nice diss up there but first off when the ps3 and windows run older games, they run the latest OS and emulate the older core OS to run them. Therefore, you'd have to run ICS and emulate cupcake, unless of course someone will port it which I honestly can never see happening. The work it would take would not be worth the finished product
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Also, just an FYI, development is where people post ROMs
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This is about as close as you're going to get. The chances of it working are probably slim to nill, but thats why we have Odin!
http://www.androidcentral.com/how-manually-install-android-15-cupcake-us-version
RealMuphukkinG said:
Well sir, according to Merriam-Webster "General" means involving, relating to, or applicable to every member of a class, kind, or group. Which in this case, my question would fit the "general" guidlines.
According to Merriam-Webster "Development" is defined by the act or process of*developing*growth; progress. In this case, I would like to my phone to progress from the regression it has taken with these newer android builds.
We could argue all day and say what goes where and why, but this was my logic behind my reasoning to post in these sections.
I understand that the S3 was built on ICS, but dont see why its not able to run older versions of firmware like 1.5 cupcake. My analogy is like the PlayStation 3. It has capabilities to play ps2 and ps games. And brand new labtops have capabilities of running windows 95... In theory, cupcake should work on this phone.
What is preventing me from doing this? If someone could use a good analogy, I might be able to comprehend this situation from a different point of view.
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To start off there are a ton of things that would need to be ported to work with cupcake. Could you load in on your phone? Possibly, but you would not have a full function phone (ie. data, sms, wifi, and possibly camera).
The easier route would be to request a Cupcake theme for ICS, which might already exist for custom launchers like ADW and GoLauncher.
please post in the correct forum.
try a theme or buy an older phone.
ddurandSGS3 said:
please post in the correct forum.
try a theme or buy an older phone.
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Seems like a dev question to me
Y'all be postn' in a troll thread
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RealMuphukkinG said:
I have had the s3 since the release date a few months back and am quite satisfied so far. Ive been using android since the G1. Though the new ICS/JB builds are nice, I still like the feel of the old build.
Is it possible to revert back to the Android 1.5 Cupcake on my GS3? If so, how would I go about doing so....?*
Im rooted, unlocked bootloader, stock Rom, currently running ICS 4.0.4
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This should be in q and a but unless you do this port yourself it is not gonna happen. Cupcake was not meant to run on these kind of high end phones. It sounds like you just want the look and feel anyway so you should just look for themes. Android has progressed a lot since then and I can't imagine why you would want that but each to their own. Theming is the closest you're gonna get unless you do it yourself
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RealMuphukkinG said:
Well sir, according to Merriam-Webster "General" means involving, relating to, or applicable to every member of a class, kind, or group. Which in this case, my question would fit the "general" guidlines.
According to Merriam-Webster "Development" is defined by the act or process of*developing*growth; progress. In this case, I would like to my phone to progress from the regression it has taken with these newer android builds.
We could argue all day and say what goes where and why, but this was my logic behind my reasoning to post in these sections.
I understand that the S3 was built on ICS, but dont see why its not able to run older versions of firmware like 1.5 cupcake. My analogy is like the PlayStation 3. It has capabilities to play ps2 and ps games. And brand new labtops have capabilities of running windows 95... In theory, cupcake should work on this phone.
What is preventing me from doing this? If someone could use a good analogy, I might be able to comprehend this situation from a different point of view.
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Thanks for being a smartass and looking in the Merriam Webster for definitions. Really dude? Development is for RELEASES only, regardless of what the Dictionary says. And it would be pretty close to impossible to put a 3 yr old software on a phone that was made to have a locked bootloader. If you have nostalgia just go install a theme and a very old version of ADW.
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RealMuphukkinG said:
Well sir, according to Merriam-Webster "General" means involving, relating to, or applicable to every member of a class, kind, or group. Which in this case, my question would fit the "general" guidlines.
According to Merriam-Webster "Development" is defined by the act or process of*developing*growth; progress. In this case, I would like to my phone to progress from the regression it has taken with these newer android builds.
We could argue all day and say what goes where and why, but this was my logic behind my reasoning to post in these sections.
I understand that the S3 was built on ICS, but dont see why its not able to run older versions of firmware like 1.5 cupcake. My analogy is like the PlayStation 3. It has capabilities to play ps2 and ps games. And brand new labtops have capabilities of running windows 95... In theory, cupcake should work on this phone.
What is preventing me from doing this? If someone could use a good analogy, I might be able to comprehend this situation from a different point of view.
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Yeah but really this isn't the dictionary thus a a developing website it has it's guidelines to follow what goes where, I don't remember seeing that whatever the dictionary says follows on here maybe I should go look something up for you? Come on dude, just follow what xda says, unless you never cared to read them, instead of trying to flame me with stupid dictionary words.
PS3 was given the feature of backwards compability, it wasn't just something it could do out of the ordinary because not all types of PS3 do it. Your just go with fallacies that this this therefore this? I mean you gotta see not everything goes backwards.
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I never really understood why people always insisted on telling the op to post in the right section.
Once posted, the op can do nothing to move it.
Don't waste you time and troll , hit the report button and the mod will explain it very well in their own way.
Reported thread.
bmatty14 said:
Seems like a dev question to me
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There's is no such thing as a dev question.. keep the questions out of the Damn development section!
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I never really understood why people always insisted on telling the op to post in the right section.
Once posted, the op can do nothing to move it.
Don't waste you time and troll , hit the report button and the mod will explain it very well in their own way.
Reported thread.
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In the hopes to stop repeat offences
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Duplicate of his other thread. Please refer to it-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35719549
Also development is for development only, thanks for your cooperation.
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Loving the work that's been done here so far... but after downloading and installing not one, but two different 200+MB-sized roms listed as non-sense when they're really sense-based ROMS that have had sense elements stripped from them, can we be a little more definitive in the composure of these custom ROMs?
I need a TRULY non-sense ROM (vanilla based). Sense-based ROMs don't work with the WiiRemote Controller IME, and neither of these "non-sense" ROMs in this forum work with it, because they still lack the element that Vanilla android has but Sense ROMs exclude (can not recall the exact element but still).
I think it'd be reasonable to list Sense-stripped ROMs as "de-sensed" and truly non-sense ROMS (built off of Vanilla Android) "non-sense".
I admit, Most of you on here compiling these roms know a whole lot more about this than I do, so I could be mistaken about something (in which case I'll stand corrected). I'm just getting tired of taking the time that it does to download and install these seemingly gigantic ROMs (as I recall a truly Vanilla ROM is usually only 40-50MBs at most, not 200+) to find out they're not ultimately doing what I need them to.
One of, if not the utmost reason I've rooted my MyTouch4gS is to utilize the WiiRemoteController IME for use with the emulators. I might just have to wait until Cyanogenmod jumps on board with this phone to get a truly vanilla-based ROM ::shrugs:: who knows. If someone out there knows how to accomplish this, I anxiously await your efforts. Thanks =)
---edited my original post, I can see how the one instance of my use of the word "claim" might make the frustrations of my original post offend them, though no name calling or finger pointing was intended, my bad---
It looks like someone is trying to get his post count up. Lmfao. LEARN HOW TO READ THE TITLE OF OP. If you cant read thats NOT the devs fault. My title is clear as day. Weird how your the only one complaining of an issue thats not even an issue. I saw a commercial for hooked on phonics. Its on sell for 49.99 plus tax. Might be a great investment for you. Rather then bash developers for your own inability to read titles and ops I would get that book.
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Oh and true vanilla aosp roms is not 40-50mb its 80-110mb. Just fyi.
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We didn't make an error..I'm sure undead would agree ” senseless” means removing the htc overlay that is put over android....launcher, lock screen, widgets and other bloatware no typical user ..uses or understands....a ” senseless rom is just what we provided ....now let me clarify ...if it was a ” vanilla” rom the word ”senseless ” would be of no use because it would be AOSP which clearly isnt sense..also if we took every component out of the rom containing anything sense it would still be..sense lol AOSP isnt stripped down per say it is compiled from source .....I'm glad you like our work but when undead or myself or both of us decide to take the time to do AOSp or whatever you will know...
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AndroidAutobot said:
Loving the work that's been done here so far... but after downloading and installing not one, but two different 200+MB-sized roms claiming to be non-sense when they're really sense-based ROMS that have had sense elements stripped from them, can we PLEASE be a little more difinitive in the composure of these custom ROMs?
I need a TRUELY non-sense ROM (vanilla based). Sense-based ROMs don't work with the WiiRemote Controller IME, and neither of these "non-sense" ROMs in this forum work with it, because they still lack the element that Vanilla android has but Sense ROMs exclude (can not recall the exact element but still).
I think it'd be reasonable to list Sense-stripped ROMs as "de-sensed" and truely non-sense ROMS (built off of Vanilla Android) "non-sense".
I admit, Most of you on here compiling these roms know a whole lot more about this than I do, so I could be mistaken about something (in which case I'll stand corrected). I'm just getting tired of taking the time that it does to download and install these seemingly gigantic ROMs (as I recall a truely Vanilla ROM is usually only 40-50MBs at most, not 200+) to find out they're not ultimately doing what I need them to.
One of, if not the utmost reason I've rooted my MyTouch4gS is to utilize the WiiRemoteController IME for use with the emulators. I might just have to wait until Cyanogenmod jumps on board with this phone to get a truely vanilla-based ROM ::shrugs:: who knows. If someone out there knows how to accomplish this, I anxiously await your efforts. Thanks =)
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Truly AOSP-based ROMs will not come for a while. I'm not sure if someone has started a device tree for CM7 or not. It needs to be done otherwise.
No one will be "compiling" ROMs until the above is done. It's 7zipping all the way to the top until then!
Even when we do get AOSP based ROMs, don't expect them to work as well as Sense based ROMs for a LONG time. Even then, it may never be the same level of quality (even though it'll likely be a lot faster)
Don't post in development
computerkid23 said:
We didn't make an error..I'm sure undead would agree ” senseless” means removing the htc overlay that is put over android....launcher, lock screen, widgets and other bloatware no typical user ..uses or understands....a ” senseless rom is just what we provided ....now let me clarify ...if it was a ” vanilla” rom the word ”senseless ” would be of no use because it would be AOSP which clearly isnt sense..also if we took every component out of the rom containing anything sense it would still be..sense lol AOSP isnt stripped down per say it is compiled from source .....I'm glad you like our work but when undead or myself or both of us decide to take the time to do AOSp or whatever you will know...
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Thank you for your more civilized response. I did not intend to imply that you or undead made an error by any means. I apologise (to you, not him, if he had been a little more civilized I might be more remorseful) for any offense I may have brought to you. That was not my intent.
I only intended to bring stronger definition between senseless and AOSP. Which you've provided me and I now understand where I was wrong. It was my mistake, as I understood the concepts of building AOSP from the source and stripping a sense-based ROM, but did not previously realize that what I was looking for was an AOSP ROM built from source and not a sense-less ROM. Given your explanation, I agree and now understand what I previously did not comprehend.
And undead - What are you 12? I wasn't bashing anyone nor did I intend to. You clearly took my meaning completely wrong. I'm confused, it says you joined this community a month ago. Where do you get off trolling a member of this community who's been around here 2 years longer than you have? Cool your jets. Lets try and keep this place civilized and not act like children. If you misunderstand someone or think that someone's being offensive, please take an approach more similar to how computerkid handled the situation. It was simply a misunderstanding and, as such, did not require name calling or any of the absurdly superfluous (if you don't understand the meaning of that word, perhaps you should get some hooked on phonics) insults you've thrown my way. I'm not really going to designate any kind of response past this defense. I'm not trying to troll, these are merely the 2 cents I've earned after what you've just unnecessarily expressed. Chill out dude.
Romanbb said:
Truly AOSP-based ROMs will not come for a while. I'm not sure if someone has started a device tree for CM7 or not. It needs to be done otherwise.
No one will be "compiling" ROMs until the above is done. It's 7zipping all the way to the top until then!
Even when we do get AOSP based ROMs, don't expect them to work as well as Sense based ROMs for a LONG time. Even then, it may never be the same level of quality (even though it'll likely be a lot faster)
Don't post in development
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Thanks for the knowledge.
Sorry for posting in this forum, I posted it here because it was a request for any ROMs being posted here in the future, which seemed to bear some relevance until I stood corrected (which I do).
The only other time I've rooted a Sense-based phone was when I ended up rooting my MyTouch3G Slide months after I had owned it, when CM was already available for it. So I didn't previously realize what an endeavor it is to achieve what I'm waiting for.
Given the information I've obtained from this thread, it makes a lot of sense that it would take some time.
Mods please remove this crap out of the development thread. This users inability to read ops is the root cause of his issue and common sense woulda helped him resolve this ”issue” ! He also created a thread JUST LIKE THIS in my nonsense thread, computerkid23 tasteless venom thread, and in the general section of the mytouch 4g slide.
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So far the devs all seem pretty clear about how they just removed the Sense overlay/UI or some of the Sense / mySense elements and I also hope they continue to be as definitive; it doesn't seem like they're cliaming they're AOSP-based. Usually devs will post when a ROM is AOSP-based or CM7-based so you'll know what you're getting yourself into, and the devs thus far have done a respectable job of defining what they've done, which is for the most part, take the stock ROM and remove just about as much as possible to streamline things.
Undeadk9 said:
Mods please remove this crap out of the development thread. This users inability to read ops is the root cause of his issue and common sense woulda helped him resolve this ”issue” ! He also created a thread JUST LIKE THIS in my nonsense thread, computerkid23 tasteless venom thread, and in the general section of the mytouch 4g slide.
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Wow youre a piece of work.
It was relevant in the development thread to start, as it was a request for future development (duh). two mere comments in other threads (that did pertain to the ROMs in particular, where this one pertains to future ROMs) is hardly cross-posting as youre acusing me of. And what post in the general thread are you even speaking of? Ive never even been in the general thread for this phone. Youre loosing your mind.
This thread however is clearly no longer relevant because it was based on a misunderstanding of what i was actually looking for. Again... How old are you? I swear my 3 year old nephew is better tempered than you are lol.
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Not to fan the flames but the development section is for active development not requests those go in general or q&a but we didn't get a q&a in our sub forum
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Ok guys enough already. Dev is not for requests or Question threads. I have moved this thread to General. Now as for the rudeness IT STOPS or you will be on the wrong side of a ban. Plan and simple. If you are looking for a certain aspect of a rom please do your research on the rom. If you dont see if something is supported ask the Dev about it. As for the thing you are looking for, if the source code is available then you can build one from source. But with the lack of things i see I am not sure if it is even released.
Thread closed
Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
ismailham said:
Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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Threads like this.
Also, the other phones have like a billion and one kernel devs. Not to mention our phone is Sammy's black sheep, by that I mean this phone is way different from other sgs.
Lastly, we have at least 3 other ICS threads why not ask there?
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ismailham said:
Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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You haven't downloaded the source code and tried to help us port it. We need your help.
I'm trying really hard to remain "civil".....really I am
FBis251 said:
You haven't downloaded the source code and tried to help us port it. We need your help.
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I like that answer lol
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Why does everybody get annoyed when a regular person just wants to know whats wrong out of curiosity? I don't want any ROM or anything I just wanted a technical answer. is the problem the source code being unreleased? will the company ever release it?
I wish I could help, I would really love to. Its like a dream or long term goal to be a dev, study programming languages etc... but that requires lots of time and I'm just waiting a bit as i'm not sure where to start.
I am sorry for any misunderstanding as I know Devs already have rough days and nights with developing and improving. I wasn't "Demanding" or "pushing" as i'm not that person. I am just seeking knowledge, and if the Q&A section isn't the right place to search for Knowledge then I don't know where is.
The problem isn't with you so much as it is with the million dollar question that's been asked and answered a million times....its the question all devs cringe over when they see it repeated time n time again.
Put yourself in their shoes for a minute.....they put out as much as they can with what they can and people keep popping up this same question like they just aren't happy with what they are getting
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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The problem isn't with you so much as it is with the million dollar question that's been asked and answered a million times....its the question all devs cringe over when they see it repeated time n time again.
Put yourself in their shoes for a minute.....they put out as much as they can with what they can and people keep popping up this same question like they just aren't happy with what they are getting
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I do understand what you mean, and I already put myself in the dev's shoes and I really admire their work, all of it. But I went through all the threads regarding ICS, and sadly their aim is to push , demand and request stuff from devs as if devs don't have enough on their minds already, and that is really annoying and disrespectful. But not all people are like that. I don't have any requests( I have a Nexus S with ICS, SGS 4g CM7.2) I am just seeking knowledge.
I am really grateful for what each and every DEV offers as it is from their personal and free time. Sorry for any misunderstanding
thomas.raines said:
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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I really thank you for your answer sir. You have helped me a lot, I hope I can lend a hand in any way possible. I will read about kernel/rom compiling. I googled many stuff about a month ago but its so vast and big I sort of got lost and stopped.
Thank you...
Sorry for double posting...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V
erikmm said:
Also, the other phones have like a billion and one kernel devs. Not to mention our phone is Sammy's black sheep, by that I mean this phone is way different from other sgs.
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What Thomas posted is true but the main reason we dont have a working ICS port is this statement above.
The op makes a good point, this is the Q&A section. Even tho there are many threads asking this same question most of them have ended up in bashing with nerf bats or a mod locking because of insults. Ive read the other threads, but most people will stop reading when the conversation turns sour. You might actually read the other posts but your mind shuts it down. So a informative post will slip in and you wont catch it.
The biggest problem with threads that ask this question is assumptions. When people stop assuming and start to understand the person asking the question things get resolved.
thomas.raines said:
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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I'd like to help, how would I go about doing that?
brandonc0526 said:
I'd like to help, how would I go about doing that?
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jump on irc and go to the teamacid channel this evening...
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thomas.raines said:
jump on irc and go to the teamacid channel this evening...
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Joined too late man. Tried to take a break at work but I couldnt
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brandonc0526 said:
Joined too late man. Tried to take a break at work but I couldnt
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Send me a PM when you guys get on
To somewhat control the the masses of Jelly bean threads that are currently arising, I made this thread to collect all talk about it.
Anything related to JB belongs in this thread. We don't want hundreds of threads with the same information, so please use this thread instead.
Yes I know I fooled you with the title, but I somehow need to get your attention
Any other JB threads will be closed to keep this froum clean.
Thanks
Wait HTC ONE X thread on Sensation forum?
When wil come
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People are too much excited for this update personally I don't think it worth the hype but we'll see...
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akbisw said:
Wait HTC ONE X thread on Sensation forum?
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sowmian said:
When wil come
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Thanks for a good laugh, I needed one right now.
Diamondback said:
To somewhat control the the masses of Jelly bean threads that are currently arising, I made this thread to collect all talk about it.
Anything related to JB belongs in this thread. We don't want hundreds of threads with the same information, so please use this thread instead.
Yes I know I fooled you with the title, but I somehow need to get your attention
Any other JB threads will be closed to keep this froum clean.
Thanks
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lol you fooled your self xD ( Jk ) the HTC one X have JB up and running!!!
It would be nice if you can somehow merge it with this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736469&page=12
there are some good information on that thread...
Can someone working on this upload a logcat and I'll help, unfortunatly I can obtain logcat myself because my sensation is in for repair :/
I'm assuming HOX is a nickname for Sensation? :silly:
Smart guy...
Send me something and I'll get you your logcat
sowmian said:
When wil come
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Dont ask for ETA, the more you ask, the less I am inclined to help port this = the longer it will take because of fewer people, so do everyone a favor and dont ask
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Ace42 said:
I'm assuming HOX is a nickname for Sensation? :silly:
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HTC One X
Ace42 said:
I'm assuming HOX is a nickname for Sensation? :silly:
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no HOX = HTC one X
Jonny said:
Dont ask for ETA, the more you ask, the less I am inclined to help port this = the longer it will take because of fewer people, so do everyone a favor and dont ask
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What if he asked for an official release date rather than a port? Why go @ him like that without any further information?
I don't know about other people, but I personally appreciate your work and you taking your time to help with the porting process, because I'm really eager to try the new features, but if you're going to go at everyone seeking some knowledge, I just don't think it's the place... Stop making us feel guilty or think twice before asking any questions.
That's definitely not the meaning of the word 'community'.
Plus, the sensation forum itself is not that 'live' lately, so such threads/questions kinda spice things up a lil' bit.
Anyways, If it's that irritating and 'annoying', why not write down all the information currently known about the process and clearing up some stuff for people who have no idea? Wouldn't that just be easier to keep track of the progress AND avoid less people having to ask? I wouldn't even mind doing it myself, but as you can see, this is the only post allowed on the subject.
Would you please explain me why it's that so... un-motivating? annoying? irritating?
People asking such questions will be everywhere, anywhere, anytime, and no one can change that. I don't have a problem with such people, because sometimes they're the reason I'm able to get my questions answered.
Also, the forum won't be as it is right now, without people asking and expressing excitement over new versions/updates.
It will most likely become a dev-only forum, which won't be much fun, will it? I mean, won't you just port stuff for other devs that can do it themselves? Meh...
Anyways, I'm sure he didn't mean to intentionally affect you or anyones else progress. So some sympathy and patience with people. Not all people know what you do, and that's totally legitimate.
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OP/Mod, If you're going to allow only one thread about the subject at least fill it with some information.
Since people are not allowed to ask elsewhere, this should be the ideal place for them to get informed about the porting process and the new update.
You can't forbid people to ask (really basic) certain questions, yet not fill them with information. People come here, first and foremost for information, not to be impressed by the esthetics of the forum.
You may want to merge all of the information and links out there in one post, for both devs and users.
As I said before, I wouldn't mind doing it myself, but I can't... apparently... Just sayin'
P.S, Nothing personal, just expressing my feelings, so no offence
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@biasaf as a general rule most people working on ports and other complex stuff dont like feeling pressured to release or fix. After all we all have personal lives and we do this for a hobby, a hobby should be something you do for fun, not because you feel pressured to do so. Also because of the nature of what porters are trying to do, giving ETA is not good because we dont know ourselves and it just adds more pressure. if the dude was asking for ETA of official release, well tbh that is a pretty stupid thing to ask because htc dont generally give eta either - with exception to ics expected rollout timetable.
If you follow the thread in the dev section you will already know that one guy has a rom which gets past splash screen and just loops on logcat errors after that. In any case if you watch the dev thread you will know the latest progress.
the point I really want to stress though is twofold, 1) we do this for free, 2) we do this in our free time as a hobby so please the least people can do is be patient, when its done its done, until then its not done and hassling any devs working on it just annoys people
Jonny,
I get where this is coming from, and yes I do follow the other threads.
I'm pretty informed though it's just normal for people to get curious.
I think what you're saying is right and a dev, as a contributor, should receive his respect and his ideal work environment and conditions. (does that make sense?)
I don't see how this might be pressuring, because as you said, you do it as a hubby and you don't really have to do it for anyone, yet you're still doing it for whatever reason you have.
On the other hand, that's exactly why people asking for ETAs shouldn't be a bother. When it's done, it's done. Just my 2 cents...
Anyways, I'm really not in the place to judge anyone, especially not a dev (since I haven't been in that position really), so sorry for my previous comments.
P.S., I know it's not the right place to ask, but it's summer and I have LOADS and LOADS of free time, so I thought I'd help myself and try to learn some android programming (and maybe help the community... somewhen). Do you know any good place to start? Do I need to learn any specific programming language?
I know there are loads of sources on Google, but I don't know what's trusted and what's not...
Thank you!
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P.S., I know it's not the right place to ask, but it's summer and I have LOADS and LOADS of free time, so I thought I'd help myself and try to learn some android programming (and maybe help the community... somewhen). Do you know any good place to start? Do I need to learn any specific programming language?
I know there are loads of sources on Google, but I don't know what's trusted and what's not...
Thank you!
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There are a few different views on how to go about it. I reckon its todo with the sort of person you are, eg. if you are the type of person that throws yourself at something and gets stuck in straight away you would be most comfortable going straight in an learning basic java and C++
On the other hand if you like to ease yourself into things it would be better to get to grips with a really easy programming langauge with syntax not too dissimilar to more complex langauges. I was lucky and got into mobile modding at 14 with flash actionscript themes for older samsung phones (tocco lite, monte, corby etc) which is a really easy way to start because you can run the themes on pc and test what changes to code do without running them on the phone using flash player and the code is really easy to understand and can gently ease your way into the coding world.
For internet resources, there are a lot of flash actionscript tutorials on the DarkforestGroup sites (DFG StarMods in particular as that is completly dedicated to flash ui based phones) and also there are lots of Java and C++ tutorials online for free but if you want to be sure they are tried and tested then probably the best way would be to buy a book of amazon or somthing like that.
One warning is that it does take a lot of time and you have to be prepared to read lots whichever way you choose! Good luck!
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The last post was geared mainly towards app/kernel/AOSP/CM/AOKP development but if you want to be a ROM developer you firstly need some sort of kitchen like dsixda's kitchen and cygwin to enable the kitchen to work under windows. the kitchen will let you carry out basic tasks then I would recommend getting a comarison software like beyond compare or similar and compare your ROM with others then see if you can build on those improvements like perhaps editing values in init.d scripts or maybe some smali hacking to enable hidden features/create new features. Or if your good with photoshop or similar you could change the way icons look and create a whole new unique look to the ROM like steve0007 elegancia ROM. then you can add stuff like beats mods, speed tweaks, xloud, bravia, options to debloat and remove some btc junk from the ROM to create an entirely customized ROM.
Anyway this is all massively off topic and its late and Ive got some attemps at porting to do before I go to sleep
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Jonny,
I get where this is coming from, and yes I do follow the other threads.
I'm pretty informed though it's just normal for people to get curious.
I think what you're saying is right and a dev, as a contributor, should receive his respect and his ideal work environment and conditions. (does that make sense?)
I don't see how this might be pressuring, because as you said, you do it as a hubby and you don't really have to do it for anyone, yet you're still doing it for whatever reason you have.
On the other hand, that's exactly why people asking for ETAs shouldn't be a bother. When it's done, it's done. Just my 2 cents...
Anyways, I'm really not in the place to judge anyone, especially not a dev (since I haven't been in that position really), so sorry for my previous comments.
P.S., I know it's not the right place to ask, but it's summer and I have LOADS and LOADS of free time, so I thought I'd help myself and try to learn some android programming (and maybe help the community... somewhen). Do you know any good place to start? Do I need to learn any specific programming language?
I know there are loads of sources on Google, but I don't know what's trusted and what's not...
Thank you!
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Think i might join you been dying to give back to the community and now i have the time to do that
To bring this back on topic, has anyone else noticed that the OOM groupings are suddenly back in the ramdisk (init.rc to be precise)? Seems strange for google to u-turn on this when they moved the OOM groupings to services.jar for ICS (though if they're anything like the UK government....)
Hello, im moving over from my Xperia X10a over to a Skyrocket. It should come in the mail tomorrow or friday. I'm looking to get up to speed on what is the latest official and latest stable ROMs?
Im guessing the latest (international version not ATT) is ICS, right?
and probably the latest stable build out there is Jellybean?
I'm also looking for suggestions, I've always gone with latest official International versions, but if there is a stable jellybean rom with everything that works, im game. I'm looking at CM9 Stable right now, what prog do you guys use to flash? can someone point me in the right direction?
im trying to fast-track so I know what's what when the phone gets here.
Asking for suggestions as to which ROM you should use is a great way to get your post locked. Might want to edit your OP. Also, this should be in Q&A, not General.
There are several new ROMs that have come out in the last couple of weeks. I suggest you look at thread titles in the dev section, as almost everyone dates their latest release. Virtually everyone here uses CWM Touch or TWRP to flash. A few hate their phones and therefore use non-touch CWM.
Read the stickys I can tell you clearly have done no research at all which is a direct violation of rule one of xda's rules
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Asking for suggestions as to which ROM you should use is a great way to get your post locked. Might want to edit your OP. Also, this should be in Q&A, not General.
There are several new ROMs that have come out in the last couple of weeks. I suggest you look at thread titles in the dev section, as almost everyone dates their latest release. Virtually everyone here uses CWM Touch or TWRP to flash. A few hate their phones and therefore use non-touch CWM.
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I guess im not on the same track, I'll edit my post but im not sure what to take out...or what I said wrong?
I'm just looking for a simple "hey man everything has a particular issue right now besides ICS" I mean, I don't even know if there IS an unbranded U.S. ICS rom right now. I guess that's part of what im asking.
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I guess im not on the same track, I'll edit my post but im not sure what to take out...or what I said wrong?
I'm just looking for a simple "hey man everything has a particular issue right now besides ICS" I mean, I don't even know if there IS an unbranded U.S. ICS rom right now. I guess that's part of what im asking.
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"I'm also looking for suggestions." One of prbassplayer's rules is no "best" threads. Saying, "I'm also looking for suggestions," is a pretty solid invitation for people to come in here and say use X or use Y or whatever and basically promote a specific dev's work, which is something that is typically frowned upon.
There are numerous ICS and JB ROMs out there for the Skyrocket. I'll again recommend you have a look through the Skyrocket dev forum, because the only way for you to decide on a ROM is to read up on what each one offers and decide which works best for you as a starter.
JB is not stable in any SR ROM that I'm aware of, by the way.
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I guess im not on the same track, I'll edit my post but im not sure what to take out...or what I said wrong?
I'm just looking for a simple "hey man everything has a particular issue right now besides ICS" I mean, I don't even know if there IS an unbranded U.S. ICS rom right now. I guess that's part of what im asking.
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We can't suggest roms as we feel it's unfair and creates trolling and other issues the rest you can read up on and research for yourself
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"I'm also looking for suggestions." One of prbassplayer's rules is no "best" threads. Saying, "I'm also looking for suggestions," is a pretty solid invitation for people to come in here and say use X or use Y or whatever and basically promote a specific dev's work, which is something that is typically frowned upon.
There are numerous ICS and JB ROMs out there for the Skyrocket. I'll again recommend you have a look through the Skyrocket dev forum, because the only way for you to decide on a ROM is to read up on what each one offers and decide which works best for you as a starter.
JB is not stable in any SR ROM that I'm aware of, by the way.
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gotcha! thanks. now I see how I could have worded it differently. now that I know there are no stable JB roms out yet, I know where to look. I appreciate it.
This thread is very close to a "whats best" thread and will be locking. Also posting int he correct forum will also help like this should have been in Q&A.
Hi I'm kinda new into the development side of android coding, but I know about flashing and the other goodies. I would like to create a team to help me and our android community a revolutionary ROM for our device and then release to other developers to port to other devices. I know that I'm probably going to get ridiculed for posting this hear but I have a few cool ideas that I would like to share that I think would make the Android experience on our phone way cooler.
Here are some of the features that I want to add into the ROM that I want help developing that don't exist and that may already exist:
Add widgets and apps into the pull down menu bar and implement that to when the device is locked. Its kinda like the same idea as in 4.2 but I think can be made more better and efficient.
Various build.prop tweaks for better performance.
Removing the bloatware apps from the ROM for more system space and better battery life.
Automatically drop 4g into 3g after a certain amount of time when phone is not being heavily used for better battery life.
Add a widget to switch between 4g and 3g into the notification bar.
Implement the auto arrangement of apps and widgets on the home screen into ICS like jelly bean has if we build off a stock ICS base.
Implement the 4.2 camera app
Implement the 4.2 gallery app
Implement the 4.2 keyboard app
Implement the 4.2 Gmail app
Implement Google Now
Implement a fully working Google wallet app
Add options to switch betwewn a scrolling/non scrolling wallpaper.
Add options to switch between a 5x5/5x4/4x4 launcher.
Add an option when listening to music to go into airplane mode to save battery life.
Add various audio tweaks for enhanced audio.
Increase the auto sync delay over network connection for better battery life.
Implement a CPU/GPU app to overclock for better performance and underclock for better battery life.
Add better and customizable auto brightness settings.
Allow for custom boot images.
Add 4 way Reboot menu.
Add a brightness slider.
Implement an unlocked bootloader.
Implement holding the back button to kill an app.
Possibly implement the Sony Bravia Engine.
Implement nexus 4 notification sounds.
And possibly implement multiview for apps.
I know that some of these things already exists and I think some of the things that don't exist in our current ROMs can be created with some creative coding.
I think that if this project gets up and running we could build this off of a stock VZW JB ROM or we could build this off of a stock ICS ROM .
Let me know what you guys think about this maybe insane idea level of modification to a ROM and hopefully we can get something started.
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This belongs in General section.
CleanROM Lite Edition, Pimp My Rom. There's most of what you requested lol
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Just run away. I suspect this NEVER happening.
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Dear OP,
Perhaps my response will be more enlightening that some of the others.
First things first. It is understandable to ask for help developing a rom. We all had to start somewhere. We all made mistakes and we all had breakthroughs and anyone who denies this is lying.
Second. Just as we started out from nothing and grown into the devs we are, we had to start by learning on our own. Might I suggest getting a zip of a stock rom and messing with it. Add this, Remove that. Mess up, and restart. Then once you have that, perhaps look at compiling source based roms such as Cyanogenmod. Not only will this get you more comfortable with coding, but rather get you used to spending hours infront of a monitor.
Third, Move from CM to aosp. I know it sounds counter intuitive, but with aosp, you are force to be more creative. Learn how to cherry pick and how to run diffs and such.
Fourth, start something. Anything to show you are making an effort rather than asking for others to code it and hope you get the credit.
This by no means is meant to discourage you, but you will go further and enjoy your creation more if YOU physically stick your hands in the code and mess with it.
Have a great day
atc3030
Considering you never dev'd before maybe try taking baby steps instead of listing every feature under the sun that you want in a Rom plus feature that don't really exist yet.
That does not sound like someone wanting to learn how to dev but more like finding someone to make a Rom for them. We all have the talent to list every feature under the sun we would like to see. That does not qualify someone for dev training. lol
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What a supportive community
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sumredhed567 said:
What a supportive community
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To be fair, had this been posted in general (the correct section) he would have gotten much more help. However people come here looking for ROMs and lately are seeing all these question or incorrect posts.
I hope he does develop something, the more devs the better!
I also think lt would be best if he had something to show before asking for help because basically he is requesting some one build a ROM for him right now.
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No kidding. I was gonna put some stuff up after finals......makes me second guess that whole idea......apparently you're either Elite or complete **** and ridiculed....
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No kidding. I was gonna put some stuff up after finals......makes me second guess that whole idea......apparently you're either Elite or complete **** and ridiculed....
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I think you're missing the point. He asked for help on a ROM he was thinking about making and posted it in the wrong section on top of that. The biggest problem is posting on the wrong forum though By all means release a ROM and purple will appreciate it.
However, release something then ask for help on some features you want to add and other devs will probably help.
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This is this guys second wrong forum post. He has not learned anything..... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31735978#post31735978
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Everyone is supportive here helping this guy not set himself up for failure.
Also, if one does not know the difference between a development thread and a general or q&a thread after already making the mistake once then they have a lot to learn before developing anything...
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Everyone is supportive here helping this guy not set himself up for failure.
Also, if one does not know the difference between a development thread and a general or q&a thread after already making the mistake once then they have a lot to learn before developing anything...
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He's by no means a developer this is a guy not asking, but essentially demanding people make him a ROM.
The XDA police are in full effect...
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Ok here's where I, usually the quiet guy, am going to get flamed I'm sure. I do understand site rules, and the need for organization. BUT, that said, why does everyone have to be totally anal about it all the time here? The "General" and "Q&A" sections here are TOO General. Everything root-related, not root-related,app-related, plan-related,..etc..etc...etc..etc....(you get my point) ALL gets thrown into the same section. This REALLY degrades from questions or statements getting the attention they NEED half the time. Who wants to sift through 5 pages before they find a question they can answer? Not most people. And to put it frankly, the general attitude around here really bites.
In the OP's defense, the Development section(again another generalized,cluttered section), is EXACTLY where I would want to post a question such as this. It just makes SENSE for it to be here. Would I? No. Why? Because I will get a cyber-smack in the nose for doing it, and breaking the iron-clad-follow-the-rules-or-else rule. In fact, I have posted threads in the Q&A and general sections for various devices here at XDA, and guess what? Only one of said threads got me any answers, and NONE got the attention of the people that needed to see them.
Time to rethink our attitudes, guys. The sense of "community" here is lacking..big time. Take some time to venture into other android websites, and search out XDA on them. You'll see TONS of gripes, and TONS of users that will not come here because of the "Snobiness".. to mention only one of the things that is said.
It's a terrible shame to see such a HUGE resource as this site is be filled with the attitude it is, and have such a bad name externally
Flame me, and you just prove my point.
Mods, if I have violated too many rules, please send me a PM, but also please provide me with a name I can contact high-up so I can also talk to them. My apologies, but I'm just fed up with it, but at the same time this is THE place to be for most of my android needs.
Just food for thought.. carry on people and enjoy your day/night.
@Atari... don't want to quote your long post but the development section is the easiest one to figure out especially if you read the guidelines. If you didn't develop something it doesn't go here. How much simpler can it be?
A question about development is not development. Imagine if it was. The actual ROM downloads would end up being on the 2nd and 3rd pages and lost in people just posting questions.
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@Atari... don't want to quote your long post but the development section is the easiest one to figure out especially if you read the guidelines. If you didn't develop something it doesn't go here. How much simpler can it be?
A question about development is not development. Imagine if it was. The actual ROM downloads would end up being on the 2nd and 3rd pages and lost in people just posting questions.
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Point taken. At least there could be a development Q&A though. His question would most likely have fallen to page 2 or three of the current Q&A section in no time, as many of the questions do.