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Despite being careful, my screen is increasingly getting scratched. The scratches are only noticeable when the device is off (thank goodness).
If there are any other persons with the same problem, please post here.
I guess that you did not use a screen protector, right?
Correct. I also own a TyTn II and have no issues with the screen whatsoever. Of all the devices I have owned over the years, only this TC has been an issue.
I was noticing the same so applied the included screen protector... I usually don't bother as I don't like them and the device is a throwaway after a year anyway so it's not a big deal. But in this case I figured if it was like that after a few weeks then after 6 months I'd probably not be able to see the screen!
I've had a few Palm devices before i switched to WM and i noticed this scratching as well......Luckily i'm using the included protector.
I have to say on my previous Palms i didn't have this problem, also while using a protector, which makes me suspect that the stylus is the real problem here.
Any thoughts on this?
I use the screen protector, and also got some spares. I also cover the whoel device with a liquid "screen" protector to helpthe faces from getting ruined. So far so good
Problem with the Touch Cruise (Polaris...) is, that the screen is - unlike the Kaiser's - flat and not indent. This means, its exposed to EVERYTHING it touches. Thus chances are higher you'll get one or two scratches once in a while.
Second thing which I can only cite other ppl on other forums: those Polaris allegedly have a softer top layer to be able to operate the unit using only your finger. This would support catching scratches as well...
I'd use the protector. It's a shame having scratches on that mirrored surface.
Schaggo, can you indicate what other forums people are commenting about the screen?
I am interested in your view that the top layer is softer than most others.
i agree that the stylus is the problem ... to much thin... , i tried one from nintendo ds , it's much more rounded and it slide better ( sorry for my english...)
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i agree that the stylus is the problem ...
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Yeah, I'm using one from my old IPAQ !
ou guys use other styluses? I use my finger, thats what the Touch series should be made for I know it doesnt really work, the fonts are way too small...
Hicksville, I cannot judge what the other ppl say because I used the protector right away. Nothing ever touched my screen without the protector applied. But as I got it, the top film seems to be made of a softer material than the one of other WM devices. Reason for that is the reason for the "Touch" in the devices name: to make the touch layer register the actual point, where the finger tries to point at. If the top layer would be harder/stiffer it allegedly cant tell where exactly the finger tried to hit the screen because the area involved ('touched' eg. pressed down) would be bigger than with a soft top layer. Thats what I got and which makes some sense.
And logically a soft surface is more prone to be 'hurt' than a surface made of hard material. So I guess this might be connected. But I have to repeat, these are all assumptions by users and in no way official statements.
I've been using my phone w/o a screen protector, and I haven't gotten any scratches. Like schaggo I mainly use my finger. I did however test the screen by applying a lot of pressure with the stylus in a sweeping motion, and I didn't get any scratches (don't ask me what possessed me to try this). I later tried a much more conclusive scratch test on a CDMA Touch unit in a store on both the screen and the body and got no scratches! Yes, I applied a lot of pressure, (However, someone else had managed to put a scratch on the CDMA Touch's screen, but that scratch was really deep and probably done with a really sharp object; on the other hand, I did my testing with my TC stylus). I coudln't scratch both the body or the screen using a lot of pressure from my stylus and my nails. Maybe some of you exposed the TC to coins or keys inadvertantly?
That's pretty gutsy to test it on your own device. I am using the screen protector and I have a few scratches on that which is fine. When the time comes, I'll replace it with a new protector. As far as the rest of the case, I have been very careful so far with my device and haven't gotten any scratches anywhere on it. I think that suede/rubber whatever feel of the device is nice but I think it will scratch.
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That's pretty gutsy to test it on your own device. I am using the screen protector and I have a few scratches on that which is fine. When the time comes, I'll replace it with a new protector. As far as the rest of the case, I have been very careful so far with my device and haven't gotten any scratches anywhere on it. I think that suede/rubber whatever feel of the device is nice but I think it will scratch.
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Yes, very gutsy, I pushed hard enough to watch the screen sink it and rise back up very slowly...I don't know what I was thinking, but hey it turned out well w/o any scratches. The plastic on the screen is a lot stronger than your typical screen protector, so that fact along with my tests pretty much confirmed it for me. Furthermore, I don't like the look of screen protectors and I'm worried that they'll hinder touch flow.
As far as the casing, it seems bulletproof. But I'm like you, I keep it in the oem suede/microfiber case whenever its not being held to my ear for a phone call, and I've never put it in a pocket with anything else.
Actually with the suede comment I was talking about the body of the actual device. I'm not sure what that is but it has a nice texture to it. I haven't used that pouch that came in the package. Not a big fan of it. Head on over to the acc forum to see which cases people like. As far as the screen protector goes the original one does not hinder touch capabilities. Also in the acc forum they discuss different screen protectors, you might wanna check out one of those as well.
Okay guys first of all i know all the benefits to a screen protector, but on my old iPhone that didnt have a screen protector and the screen was fine, no scratches etc etc.... I was wondering do we really, really need a protector on the diamond? As im sure that without it it would be much smoother to use?
I applied my screen protector as soon as I unboxed my phone however was wondering of the opinions of people that a) didnt and b) took their protectors off and used the device.
Does the screen 'feel' any different without it?
Please post in the right section (Diamond accessories).
Screen protectors are advised, 'cause you reduce the risk of damage to the screen itself (which will be expensive to replace). It will dull the sensitivity slightly (although less than on the iPhone screens as they use different technology.)
HI
the diamond really need a screen protector
the glass is very fragile!
personnaly i ve made a little scratch
when i remove my old screen protector
with a knife!!!
the iphone as a really good screen
very hard to scratch....
anyone know whats the difference in screen tech between the iPhone and the Diamond?
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anyone know whats the difference in screen tech between the iPhone and the Diamond?
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Diamond has resistive touch screen, iPhone has capacitive.
That means the iPhone can have a solid (glass) front to the screen.
xboxmod said:
HI
the diamond really need a screen protector
the glass is very fragile!
personnaly i ve made a little scratch
when i remove my old screen protector
with a knife!!!
the iphone as a really good screen
very hard to scratch....
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Use the sticky side of a piece of tape to remove the old screenprotector.
That's the way the pro's are doing it. Use the same sticky tape to pick up small residue on screen before applying the new one.
I have PDA's more 10 years not the first but i still keep my old casio e-105 and since that a lot of them ...
For me it was all a big worry the screen scratches and so every pda had screen protector kit and i tried allot of them different brands different textures, glued , fitted etc...
Right now i look back on my desk and see a bunch of PDA all of them with beautiful screens none with scratches.. BUT.... BUT... I'm more happy to have 9 year old pda without scratches ??? don't think so....
I don't think i will be worst if one them had a screen scratch vs the issues a screen protector have, less sensitive worst view of screen etc...
In diamond is even worst because the screen don't have borders to fit the protection, so will add one more layer on top.......
Even if i have mixed feelings about it i will keep my diamond without screen protector...
maybe next year when i buy the new "whatsoever model" and put this on the shelf i will say damn scratch on the screen but so what.... its on shelf and the time i had keep it, i use that screen at full no lame plastics on top...
just a thought....
But the iPhones isn´t usable with a stylus only with fingers due to the influence in the static field of the capacitive touchscreen.
Well actually the Diamond got TWO touchscreens, it also have a capacitive touchscreen under the normal screen and under the touchpad (buttons) beside the resistive touchscreen on the surface of the screen. (sushilange fond that).
it is a must
you are mad if you don't
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I have PDA's more 10 years not the first but i still keep my old casio e-105 and since that a lot of them ...
For me it was all a big worry the screen scratches and so every pda had screen protector kit and i tried allot of them different brands different textures, glued , fitted etc...
Right now i look back on my desk and see a bunch of PDA all of them with beautiful screens none with scratches.. BUT.... BUT... I'm more happy to have 9 year old pda without scratches ??? don't think so....
I don't think i will be worst if one them had a screen scratch vs the issues a screen protector have, less sensitive worst view of screen etc...
In diamond is even worst because the screen don't have borders to fit the protection, so will add one more layer on top.......
Even if i have mixed feelings about it i will keep my diamond without screen protector...
maybe next year when i buy the new "whatsoever model" and put this on the shelf i will say damn scratch on the screen but so what.... its on shelf and the time i had keep it, i use that screen at full no lame plastics on top...
just a thought....
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But still love the Love and passion you speak of.
Something that looks this nice Should look as nice ass possible.
Maybe some company is smart enough to make a full body screen protector. (maybe it allready exist heavn't looked)
I have double feelings about this.
My Touch Screen wothout protections is starting to lose the top layer on the right side of screen (i never really got the hang of using that unnatural touch scrolling and kept using the scrollbar)
Try to teach an old dog new tricks
It's expensive, but this seems to be a good full-protection:
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
We will see this shamefull Spam through the fingers this time
The video sells let's be honoust.
But a video of how to strap on these Protective Phone Kevlar Condom Vests would be usefull.
If anyone get's he's her hands one one of these i'd be interested on how it looks and let's itself be applied. It is pricey but for the Price i'll be paying for the Pro it might be a very good investment.
im going to give that invisible shield a try. sounds cool and i like my devices like from box :>
ok bought mine today, but no screen protector, am assuming its the same for everyone else, but whats your opinion, on whether or not its necessary, to have a screen protector.?
Doesn't come with one in the box.
I have ordered one as it better to be safe than sorry.
Yeh I suppose you are right but I may say for some very strange reason the screen looks and feels more robust than any phone I have ever used more or less like the iPhone
Mine got a faint scratch on day 1, from something in my pocket!
The screen cant be that strong!
Fon22
It's not nescesary until you get a scratch on your display
I always have two reasons why I get a screen protector:
1. To eliminate reflections. The Brando Anti-Glare ones are really good at this. I always use that kind of screen protector on all my devices (too bad they don't have it for the Desire... yet).
2. To avoid scratches. A scratch on the display is really nasty, especially when you constantly see it. And it will also influence the value later on when you want to sell the phone.
So.. if you, eventually, plan to sell the phone: Do yourself a favour and put a screen protector on it and -always- carry the phone in a case/pouch. You can sell the phone later as "As good as new! No scratches whatsoever!".
And if you want less reflection (at the cost of a somewhat more 'grainy' display) use an anti-glare protector. Those things are great when using your phone for navigation in the car when it's sunny!
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ok bought mine today, but no screen protector, am assuming its the same for everyone else, but whats your opinion, on whether or not its necessary, to have a screen protector.?
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Get one. Cheaper when you think of it as an insurance policy! My Vikuiti protector is great. Probably replace it with the Brando when it becomes available.
I had a HD2 and the screen on that was next to impossible to scratch. A few times it was placed in my pocket with keys or screws. It even felt solid and scratch resistant. I heard it may well be glass.
Now the Desire. Hmmmmm. The screen feels a lot cheaper and bendy so I have really been careful with this one. I think you can see where this one is going?
I found a scratch on the top of the screen. How?! It has lived in it's case.
HTC got it so right with the HD2 and it now seems like a backward step again for what should have been a premium Android device.
As you can see that many of us use screen protector.
But I always think, how dose the screen protector work as it should be or just a piece of cover.
If you think that works for you, please let us know why and how.
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yes its always help/.
yes
Yes it works,
you'll get less scratches, and when you can change it every time you want
Yes it helps, against scratches. But i get a less good feeling with my fingers on the screen, so i have removed my protection.
yes its always helpful... it protects your sccreen from damage n scrathes.. do u even know how much a new sceen costs?
Yep, kind off it helps in many ways. Like even if I get multiple scratches It wouldn't matter as I can get the screen guard changed. But If I didn't had it at ones that would cost me more.
Though now a days its trend for Gorilla Glass and vise versa!
I do not use it anymore. I had a cover for my Galaxy S2, and also a plastic 'sheet' to protect the front.
In my line of work I had quite some rough jobs wich resulted in hairy situations for the phone. Eventually I switched jobs last year, and these days I sit behind a desk. There is no use for the cover anymore. The front itself can withstand most of the daily stuff.
The cover for the back etc. might be handy if you drop your phone, but did you ever see those phone-drop-tests?
Bottomline: Obviously it's safer, but I don`t think people really need them.
hashkiki said:
As you can see that many of us use screen protector.
But I always think, how dose the screen protector work as it should be or just a piece of cover.
If you think that works for you, please let us know why and how.
Thanks
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Well, I bought my xperia x10 USED. Seller told me that it has BIG SCRATCH on the bottom of the screen (btw, xperias screen is scratch-resist), and I told him that he has to lower the price, so he lowered price for 20€ ..When I bought it, I found out that there is a screen protector on it..So, I removed it, and I have a brand new phone..without scratch on the bottom of the screen ofcourse ..
So, if you are a seller, remove it if there is any scratches or something else..If you are a buyer, try to screw up a seller
Changed several of them already and my screen still doesn't have scratche
I've been using them on my epic 4g that I have had for the last couple months. But before that I didn't use them on my lg optimus v or HTC Eris.
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I use no screen protector but I had one. There are no scratches on my phone now and I can wipe better. You have to be carefully without a protector.
I use a protector for 2 reasons. Firstly, for peace of mind. Yes, it's Gorilla glass which means it's less likely to get scratched, but there's no glass in the world that is completely scratch-proof, so it makes sense to cover it for that extra protection. Secondly, I use a matte (anti-glare) protector. It's good for reducing reflections and helping read the screen in brighter light, but it also stops fingerprints and greasy smudge marks.
Each to their own, but if I've got a £500 phone then I see no point in *not* chucking a few more quid at a protector.
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In my opinion, screen protectors can be very useful. There are different types of screen protectors, that offer different benefits to suit your needs.
The first kind of screen protector is a "clear" type, which is obviously clear, that offers scratch protection. The drawback of this type of protection is, because of the clear, craystal like finish, it creates a glare like effect, making it difficult to see the screen in direct sunlight, or brightly lit rooms.
The next type of screen protector (my favorite) is an "anti-glare", which has a matte finish. This type of screen protector not only prevents scratching, but it also cuts out the glare, does a great job of hiding fingerprints and smudges. It also provides a better feel when touching the screen, removing that "sticky" feeling when sliding your finger across the screen. The downside to this type of screen protector is that it slightly takes away from the sharpness or detail of the display. (only slightly though). A fair trade off, in my opinion.
The third type of screen protector is know as a "mirror" type. This protector has a mirror finish, which actually looks like a mirror. This type offers scratch protection, and because of it's mirror finish, also provides a level of privacy, making it difficult for other people to see what's on your screen. The downside to this type of protector is, because of the mirror finish, it makes it extremely difficult to see the screen under any lighting conditions. It also doesn't hide scratches very well.
Hope this helps!!
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i had a screen protector but i took it off, i didnt like it, it just didnt feel good, so i bought a phone bag. i only take my phone out of the bag when im really using it. no scratches so far. id reccomend a phone back and no protetor, but its everyones personal opinion how to use phone
It depends... If you have your phone in the same pocket as your keys it's usefull to have one. When you have your phone in an case it's not that usefull.
I like screen protectors but my hands and fingers are so dam rough it scratches the screen protector up, so I go threw screen protector a couple weeks, the protector would just get so scratch up
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If you are rough on your phone, then yes; else no.
I've never used one and don't have notible scratches, but then again, I'm always very aware of how I'm handling my phone, and when I carry it around, I'll keep it in its pouch.
screen protector
very useful... if you plan sell your tab some day
I like my thing to be in very good shape, so yes
With Gorilla Glass 2 on the Infinity, what is your opinion on placing a screen protector on this device? And if 'Yes,' which one?
I have one on my phone and it has been great, but does a tablet like this warrant a screen protector.
For myself, I plan on having the device in a rooCase when it becomes available.
Thanks for your input.
I had a protector on my NexusOne that has Gorilla V1.
Dumbest idea ever!
I removed it about a year ago. It fell down so many times, no scratches.
Screen is like when I bought it.
I don't think you need a protector with Gorilla anymore.
if you take it on the go a lot - screen protect it
if you have kids - screen protect it
if you like to set it up and down on stands - screen protect it
if you dont have a leather case - screen protect it.
if you just like the awsome smooth feeling of the glass, then leave it naked and touch it all you want
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With Gorilla Glass 2 on the Infinity, what is your opinion on placing a screen protector on this device? And if 'Yes,' which one?
I have one on my phone and it has been great, but does a tablet like this warrant a screen protector.
For myself, I plan on having the device in a rooCase when it becomes available.
Thanks for your input.
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Screen Protectors usually make for a tight fit with docks. You may have to do a little trimming around the docking points depending on the protector you choose.
When I carry it arround the house, I don't need a protector, Gorilla Glass doesn't seem to get scratches easily (nor does the back of my Infinity, despite what some said).
For going out I either take the dock which encloses the screen within the whole thing or I take TranSleeve (originally meant for the Prime), which is helpful for typing or watching media (two standing positions). I don't see a point of having this kind of sleeve for both (although this seems nice: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28593251&postcount=19), although I have bought the cheapest (~$3) neoprene etui/sleeve for 10" netbooks available (somehow they tend to be cheaper than the same products for 10" tablets): http://vegacom.eu/data/gfx/pictures/large/6/6/9566_7.jpg?337768
This is more for suddently-dropping-the-bag-on-the-floor kind of situation than to avoid scratches, but I feel better with these precautions (I also carry a few books in the backpack quite often, so it seems safer to have some kind of cover).
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When I carry it arround the house, I don't need a protector, Gorilla Glass doesn't seem to get scratches easily (nor does the back of my Infinity, despite what some said).
For going out I either take the dock which encloses the screen within the whole thing or I take TranSleeve (originally meant for the Prime), which is helpful for typing or watching media (two standing positions).
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Are we talking screen protectors or cases here? I'm thinking I'm going to grab a slip case for the tablet/dock to just slip it in something light.
KilerG said:
Are we talking screen protectors or cases here? I'm thinking I'm going to grab a slip case for the tablet/dock to just slip it in something light.
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I was answering the question if one should protect the screen with gorilla glass, but ok, good point. I would never use something that would blur the image on the Infinity, but I can understand somebody would want to do it to be able to use the tablet in direct sunlight. But to avoid scratches? Hell no!
You can some brutal things to gorilla glass without scratching it. Most people don't need a screen protector. The huge elephant in the room is dust, which might surprise some folks who don't have to live with much of it. If you live in an especially dusty region, you should seriously consider protecting even a GG2 screen. The glass has not been invented that won't scratch if the right piece of dust gets dragged across it just so. Hammering a nail with an HTC one x is impressive (reference to a youtube vid I saw once), but not the most practical test. Some dust particles are harder than nails, I assure you.
d14b0ll0s said:
I was answering the question if one should protect the screen with gorilla glass, but ok, good point. I would never use something that would blur the image on the Infinity, but I can understand somebody would want to do it to be able to use the tablet in direct sunlight. But to avoid scratches? Hell no!
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I don't think I'll put one on mine. It's not gong to get thrown around like my phone does lol. My phone has to have a screen protector...
An anti glare screen protector could be a good idea
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You can some brutal things to gorilla glass without scratching it. Most people don't need a screen protector. The huge elephant in the room is dust, which might surprise some folks who don't have to live with much of it. If you live in an especially dusty region, you should seriously consider protecting even a GG2 screen. The glass has not been invented that won't scratch if the right piece of dust gets dragged across it just so. Hammering a nail with an HTC one x is impressive (reference to a youtube vid I saw once), but not the most practical test. Some dust particles are harder than nails, I assure you.
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Definitely +1 concerning the dust, but concerning the damage reduction potential of Gorilla Glass: when I got my LG Optimus 2x about one and a half years ago, I rubbed the tip of a knife on the screen (Gorilla Glass v1) to and fro in a ballsy whim during a dinner with friends. Turns out it was a bad idea: although I have since upgraded to the SGS2 and the LG is now carried around by my wife, it still bears a nice mark (scratch).
Although, with a probability close to certainty, a normal screen would've been utterly destroyed (I wasn't exactly gentle), the potential for damage is still there and it doesn't even take visceral violence. It is chemically hardened glass, it can take a beating but it is only an extra line of defense.
For the sake of on-topic conversation: I have never used a screen protector on any device I own. I take good care of them and mostly use them eitehr indoors or in a shaded area (inside the train, for example). If you'd need outdoor visibility, consider it. If you have the dock, think about a good sleeve or case (I have bought an relatively cheap leather one on eBay and, although it does add significant bulk, it does a commendable job as far as protection goes).
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You can some brutal things to gorilla glass without scratching it. Most people don't need a screen protector. The huge elephant in the room is dust, which might surprise some folks who don't have to live with much of it. If you live in an especially dusty region, you should seriously consider protecting even a GG2 screen. The glass has not been invented that won't scratch if the right piece of dust gets dragged across it just so. Hammering a nail with an HTC one x is impressive (reference to a youtube vid I saw once), but not the most practical test. Some dust particles are harder than nails, I assure you.
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Dust? Really? Have you seen the Gorilla Glass 2 vendor video? They threw everything at it but the kitchen sink. If dust was ever to be their demise, Gorilla would lose ALL credibility with their product. I'm hardly worried.
I love the "Guerilla" typo, it should be an extra-hardened version! ;D
My post here shows why you'd use a anti-glare film on the TF700T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28362111&postcount=2806
When I got mine I found it was almost impossible to use out on the pattio without the anti-glare film.
The glass is simply a perfect reflector giving very crisp and detailed images of everything around and abowe you overshadowing the data on the screen.
The same issue faces almost all tabs and phones though.
The anti-glare screen does do odd things to the pixels due to the high density, but overall it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28366344&postcount=2815
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Dust? Really? Have you seen the Gorilla Glass 2 vendor video? They threw everything at it but the kitchen sink. If dust was ever to be their demise, Gorilla would lose ALL credibility with their product. I'm hardly worried.
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GG is tough and great, but you underestimate the power of dust.
+1 for an Anti-glare protector. Not for it's "protection" qualities, but for it's anti-glare qualities... I just got my TF700 and the screen is beautiful, but very reflective... Plus the anti-glares help reduce finger prints significantly. Just get a good one - you usually get what you pay for when it comes to anti-glare protectors.
However, I do worry that it may interfere with the screen quality too much on the TF700 though (they usually create some level of "pixelation" effect which may ruin the TF700 "experience" - not sure as I don't have one yet!
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I refer to the effect of anti-glares as the rainbow effect. It acts a little like a prism per pixel, especially noticeable on white screens as you'd expect. Some people just see it as noise. Some don't see it.
I'm undecided about whether or not its worth it. It always has been before (bonus: fewer prints), but I've never had a screen this beautiful before either, and I'm not sure I want to obscure it.
My argument is pretty simple: the Infinity is so pretty I would never want to blemish it with any permanent type of screen protector. And it gets so hot in direct sunlight during summer here anyway that I prefer to stay indoors with it ;>
d14b0ll0s said:
My argument is pretty simple: the Infinity is so pretty I would never want to blemish it with any permanent type of screen protector. And it gets so hot in direct sunlight during summer here anyway that I prefer to stay indoors with it ;>
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The screen have too much resistance it grabs the finger.
It's not as smooth to touch on ipad screen, didn't anyone noticed it?
~ not sure WHY there is so much confusion............
Infinity comes with Gorilla GLASS ....>> best best thing since slice bread ...
Like adding a bumper bar to a TANK ..............
IMHO =adding 'protector sticky thing = sounds , looks DUMB , and not to mention COMPLETE WAISTED CASH ....
** send me that 20-40$ pls ** Lol lol
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