Hey Guys
Here is my question, currently I have a completely stock unrooted One S and I just got the notification for a 'system update' from HTC. What I want to know is, if I accept the system update for HTC's official jellybean, will I be able to root afterword?
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Hopefully the answer is a simple 'yes', but I want to ask because I remember when I had the HTC Evo, HTC changed the bootloader when they sent out gingerbread OTA update, and anyone who was unrooted and accepted the update then couldnt root until someone found a new way around the changes, which took a while. And the reason I want to root after the update is because I dont plan on playing with ROMs this time around, I just want to root so I can use some apps that require root access and still be on a stable jellybean. Thanks!
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Yes its possible.
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dskater411 said:
Hey Guys
Here is my question, currently I have a completely stock unrooted One S and I just got the notification for a 'system update' from HTC.
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Can you post the exact steps you made for going completely stock because i have tried several times and still don't get OTA update notification. (HTC support center stated the update for my s3 was released). Thanks.
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Update notification depends on cid and carrier. The HTC support are a bunch of uninformed people who always answers with standard answers..
Maybe try to change your CID to HTC__001, its the unbranded European one, this CID mostly get the OTA first.
Dont forget to be on stock recovery when flashing OTA
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I think i can't change CID on S3. I guess i'll wait a little more.
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My wife's sensation has been slugglish lately and keeps restarting all the time. I'm assuming because it hasn't been updated since it was new. It was on vodafone but was unlocked a week after and has since had an o2 sim in it. Problem is there has been no software updates since she got it nearly a year ago. Who would the ICS update be coming from? vodafone or o2? I've only tried the OTA update, is there any other way?
Sorry for the noob question, haven't had a droid in a while!
Has it an Custom Rom?
Which CID?
The update would be came from Vodafone
Just a heads up, oftentimes people find that the OTA ICS update slows their phone down to slower than what it was previously, and it's only fixable by wiping data and factory resetting (that is if you want to stay on stock).
You could always track down a RUU and install it that way.
hey there, no its not a custom rom its been on there from new. I don't know what a CID is or an RUU sorry!
Have you considered rooting the device and installing ics that way? Just a suggestion?
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Hello, I would like to ask a question regarding the Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread OTA update. Before I update my new HTC Desire S to Android 4.0 via RUU, I would like to update my phone to 2.3.5 first. I have done a bit of installation of apps and contacts, and I am scared that the OTA update will wipe my phone. Will the OTA update wipe my phone? I know that when installing RUUs, the phone will be completely wiped, but I am not sure with OTAs, because I've never done a OTA update before.
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Will the OTA update wipe my phone?
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No
And a friendly suggestion: if you want ICS better S-OFF and use a custom ROM rather the buggy ICS RUU. This will keep the option to return to a warranty state if needed
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Ok, thanks. To install a custom ROM I need to S-Off and root right?
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herobrine_second said:
Ok, thanks. To install a custom ROM I need to S-Off and root right?
Not necessarily but highly raccommended. I am currently on Andromadus 128 build and I am rooted but S-ON.
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I'm new to this site, just registered. Sorry i'm a noob!! So I have had the Blue Tmobile One S since august but sold that one to my friend and bought a black one from a guy and said it's from solavei, So I try it and everything seems legit except It's running Android 4.0.3 and Sense 4.0. So I go to menu>Software updates>check now to see if I can get the OTA they had in September but it says I am currently up to date. I checked my sotfware information and it said my software number was 1.84.1135.17 71ORD. I look online to see if I can some how download it and it told me that if I don't have these two other numbers and had something else then the warranty is void and I can't get updates. So My big question is how can I change my software number? Do I have to like root my phone? Then some how unroot it back to a different stock ROM? I'm open to suggestions and I would really like an answer thanks!!
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I'm new to this site, just registered. Sorry i'm a noob!! So I have had the Blue Tmobile One S since august but sold that one to my friend and bought a black one from a guy and said it's from solavei, So I try it and everything seems legit except It's running Android 4.0.3 and Sense 4.0. So I go to menu>Software updates>check now to see if I can get the OTA they had in September but it says I am currently up to date. I checked my sotfware information and it said my software number was 1.84.1135.17 71ORD. I look online to see if I can some how download it and it told me that if I don't have these two other numbers and had something else then the warranty is void and I can't get updates. So My big question is how can I change my software number? Do I have to like root my phone? Then some how unroot it back to a different stock ROM? I'm open to suggestions and I would really like an answer thanks!!
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If you're on 1.84 I would not update via OTA. You probably have a 1.06 or .09 hboot, which will be extremely nice for you.
I would suggest unlocking your bootloader via HTC and installing TrickDroid if you want stock. There arr several guides, including a all in one tool to help you with the process.
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BRUNR. said:
I'm new to this site, just registered. Sorry i'm a noob!! So I have had the Blue Tmobile One S since august but sold that one to my friend and bought a black one from a guy and said it's from solavei, So I try it and everything seems legit except It's running Android 4.0.3 and Sense 4.0. So I go to menu>Software updates>check now to see if I can get the OTA they had in September but it says I am currently up to date. I checked my sotfware information and it said my software number was 1.84.1135.17 71ORD. I look online to see if I can some how download it and it told me that if I don't have these two other numbers and had something else then the warranty is void and I can't get updates. So My big question is how can I change my software number? Do I have to like root my phone? Then some how unroot it back to a different stock ROM? I'm open to suggestions and I would really like an answer thanks!!
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You can try typing *#*#CHECKIN#*#* into the dialer and then checking for updates.
Or you can find a T-Mobile US 2.35 RUU and running that. However it will be more difficult to flash ROMs once you have upgraded if you want to do that later on.
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usaff22 said:
You can try typing *#*#CHECKIN#*#* into the dialer and then checking for updates.
Or you can find a T-Mobile US 2.35 RUU and running that. However it will be more difficult to flash ROMs once you have upgraded if you want to do that later on.
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I tried that and all it did was say in my notifications "checkin succeeded" and nothing else happend.. so idk about that. I'm not really looking to root my phone, all I really want to do is have my phone run on the latest software and get OTA updates if possible. But if I need to root it, I will. And for the second thing, I'd have to root my phone to run the 2.35 right?
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If you're on 1.84 I would not update via OTA. You probably have a 1.06 or .09 hboot, which will be extremely nice for you.
I would suggest unlocking your bootloader via HTC and installing TrickDroid if you want stock. There arr several guides, including a all in one tool to help you with the process.
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Can you send me a link to it? That'd be great thanks
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I tried that and all it did was say in my notifications "checkin succeeded" and nothing else happend.. so idk about that. I'm not really looking to root my phone, all I really want to do is have my phone run on the latest software and get OTA updates if possible. But if I need to root it, I will. And for the second thing, I'd have to root my phone to run the 2.35 right?
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After "checkin succeeded" you should then check for updates in Settings, as I mentioned earlier.
You seem to be running an "ORD" build which is basically like a Beta test for the latest software. RD stands for Research & Development. The latest 2.35 RUU should work without rooting.
However that will upgrade your HBOOT and make it more difficult if you decide to root later on.
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xxquicksh0txx said:
If you're on 1.84 I would not update via OTA. You probably have a 1.06 or .09 hboot, which will be extremely nice for you.
I would suggest unlocking your bootloader via HTC and installing TrickDroid if you want stock. There arr several guides, including a all in one tool to help you with the process.
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I am on 1.84 and I don't have the 1.06 or .09 hboot, I have the higher 1.14 I think, on Cincinnati Bell wireless. Not to hijack your thread bud but I am stuck wondering what I should do as well, since there is no RUU from my provider, I have cid HTC_017.
I also have the 4.0.3 with HTC 4.0
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I am on 1.84 and I don't have the 1.06 or .09 hboot, I have the higher 1.14 I think, on Cincinnati Bell wireless. Not to hijack your thread bud but I am stuck wondering what I should do as well, since there is no RUU from my provider, I have cid HTC_017.
I also have the 4.0.3 with HTC 4.0
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Change CID to HTC__001, run a 2.31 unbranded RUU. Then use the downgrade thread to downgrade down to 1.06 HBOOT.
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usaff22 said:
Change CID to HTC__001, run a 2.31 unbranded RUU. Then use the downgrade thread to downgrade down to 1.06 HBOOT.
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I tried this and couldn't run the 2.31 unbranded ruu
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LibertyMonger said:
I tried this and couldn't run the 2.31 unbranded ruu
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Do SuperCID then any RUU will work.
Hello everyone, iv been a long spectator on XDA for a long time, previously owning many android devices. I think the ONE S is my favourite of all. So i decided to post something to ask you guys. Anyways I own a ONE S from Canada, its the S4 version. I rooted it with this method here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
Because the phone was carrier locked , i went to unlock it with this method : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693491 (method2)
Im on stock ICS rom still and everything is going good so far and i recieved notification for JB update. So my question is can i proceed with the OTA update , or do i need to do something first? And will my phone be carrier sim-locked again if i do the update?
Iv heard many stories of bricked phones after OTA update here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065127.. im just scared
Thanks guys.
btw, CID getter is telling me ROGER001, but im using it on WIND network right now)
Heres the link for JB OTA : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ksp5891mq....27.50.08L_release_301897nn5lu23br8cg9q7l.zip
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Hello everyone, iv been a long spectator on XDA for a long time, previously owning many android devices. I think the ONE S is my favourite of all. So i decided to post something to ask you guys. Anyways I own a ONE S from Canada, its the S4 version. I rooted it with this method here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
Because the phone was carrier locked , i went to unlock it with this method : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693491 (method2)
Im on stock ICS rom still and everything is going good so far and i recieved notification for JB update. So my question is can i proceed with the OTA update , or do i need to do something first? And will my phone be carrier sim-locked again if i do the update?
Iv heard many stories of bricked phones after OTA update here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065127.. im just scared
Thanks guys.
btw, CID getter is telling me ROGER001, but im using it on WIND network right now)
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Not 100% sure, but I think most of the stories from bricked phones after update relate to those who had SuperCID their phone, (ie CID w 1111111). Im not sure if it will relock your SIM, but it really shouldnt, since the partition related to the sim unlock shouldnt get flashed.
But its always your own choice whether to update or not. If you want JellyBean stock then update. You may also end up with a newer radio (better reception), newer wifi, etc and other upgrades. Indeed, with a low hboot you can always upgrade those things anyways, so there is more than one way to get what you want. But if it aint broke, nobody is going to tell you to fix it. Your likely fine to update, but theres no guaruntees in life!
You may have to re root your phone afterwards.
Thanks for replying. I wish more people can tell me with more concrete answers. ... I wonder using the root method I mentioned above gives me superCID. Then I would know if I could proceed or not.
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Rooting in and of itself would not give you SuperCID. You would have to specifically hex edit some partitions yourself to change your CID
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vvector said:
Hello everyone, iv been a long spectator on XDA for a long time, previously owning many android devices. I think the ONE S is my favourite of all. So i decided to post something to ask you guys. Anyways I own a ONE S from Canada, its the S4 version. I rooted it with this method here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583427
Because the phone was carrier locked , i went to unlock it with this method : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693491 (method2)
Im on stock ICS rom still and everything is going good so far and i recieved notification for JB update. So my question is can i proceed with the OTA update , or do i need to do something first? And will my phone be carrier sim-locked again if i do the update?
Iv heard many stories of bricked phones after OTA update here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065127.. im just scared
Thanks guys.
btw, CID getter is telling me ROGER001, but im using it on WIND network right now)
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can you please save the downloaded update zip file from rogers before flashing/updating? and post-it somewhere so other can get it?
will help lot of people
on topic now: because you're rooted and unlocked, it is unlikely the phone will execute the update; however it will download the file, so you will found it on sdcard partition
I promise ill upload it tomorrow, And yes it didnt execute the update...it just went into recovery and gave me an error. Im guessing its because im using a custom recovery. So i guess i have to be on stock rom , stock recovery and unrooted. Trying to look for a guide now
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vvector said:
I promise ill upload it tomorrow, And yes it didnt execute the update...it just went into recovery and gave me an error. Im guessing its because im using a custom recovery. So i guess i have to be on stock rom , stock recovery and unrooted. Trying to look for a guide now
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Sweet buddy, please do! Thanks a million!
Edit: hey wait, it is tomorrow you lying bastard, lol j/k. When you have time. Tick tock tick tock tick tock...
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vvector said:
I promise ill upload it tomorrow, And yes it didnt execute the update...it just went into recovery and gave me an error. Im guessing its because im using a custom recovery. So i guess i have to be on stock rom , stock recovery and unrooted. Trying to look for a guide now
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please do it; you have no idea how many people will help; the guys from rogers are between the best in the branch and usually their software are flawless;
way better than bell or telus or tmob.
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ryanshew said:
Sweet buddy, please do! Thanks a million!
Edit: hey wait, it is tomorrow you lying bastard, lol j/k. When you have time. Tick tock tick tock tick tock...
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I sent you a private message with the link to share it on here , cuz i couldnt find a way to post links on xda because of new member restriction. Anyhow i found a way by editing my original post and added the link to my Dropbox. Enjoy guys!
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I sent you a private message with the link to share it on here , cuz i couldnt find a way to post links on xda because of new member restriction. Anyhow i found a way by editing my original post and added the link to my Dropbox. Enjoy guys!
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Thanks for sharing the OTA! Would you be able to provide a md5, sha or other so I can make sure it downloaded properly? Here's what I get:
md5: 6be76818836913a897ab1ecddaf21e3d
sha1: d2ecec460ba041c96c8eba50e9dcf6c6865b8f3e
I also posted the update.zip for Rogers/Fido in the general section.
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Guys i know this sounds noobish please dont hate... What is CID?
EDIT: I searched a bit on how to find my CID went into fastboot and found its Rogers. what is the advantage of changing it to SuperCID
nez762 said:
Guys i know this sounds noobish please dont hate... What is CID?
EDIT: I searched a bit on how to find my CID went into fastboot and found its Rogers. what is the advantage of changing it to SuperCID
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I think you can then flash more RUU's
Hi Guys!
Just wanted to introduce myself and ask a bunch of n00bish questions.
I recently acquired an HTC One X on Rogers for dirt cheap (basically $0) and this is my first Android phone having used an iPhone for the past few years. I'm not completely lost around ROMs having cut my teeth on windows mobile phones right here on xda-devs years ago but my iPhone took me away for a number of years.
I've gone through as much of the existing FAQs and help threads as I could but I have a few questions I couldn't find the answers for: Hopefully these are simple enough for the folks here!
1) My HOX out of the box is running FW version 1.73, Android 4.0.3. I see there's some bootloader unlocking issues with AT&T HOX's with FW 1.85 and 2.2 and above. Do these restrictions not apply to the Rogers HOX? Is there a point i should be worried about not having an unlockable bootloader?
2) My ultimate goal is to get a maintainable ROM where I can easily get OS updates without having to manually reload any custom settings or apps. Being an Android n00b, I consistently hear about Cyanogenmod ROMs. Can I jump from my current Stock ROM straight to Cyanogenmod 10.1 JB? or do I have to do something in between?
3) Are there other community ROMs that's better for the HOX than CM? I'm looking for a plain jane out of box experience. I really love how the iPhone works really really great out of the box without any huge amount of setting changes. And that's what I strived for with my old windows mobile device ROMs.
4) Yay or Nay on HTC Sense?
5) Yay or Nay on Staying on the Stock Rogers ROMs (I think the JB update is available now).
6) If I elect to do all the OTA updates, is there something I should avoid like a permanent locked bootloader version or something like that?
7) If I install all the OTA updates and eventually end up on the Rogers JB rom (I assume it's a bunch of incremental updates since auto updates shows I have update 1.93 which isn't the JB rom), can I revert back to the 4.0.3 rom?
I think that's it for now... Sorry for the long list. it definitely grew as I typed it!
Thanks a tonne! I know how great a resource xda-devs was and is. Can't wait to get into all of this again. !
Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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Venomtester said:
Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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apologies for my probing questions as I'm trying to flesh out the dependencies of everything...
Does the rogers HOX need to be s-off'd when flashing custom ROMs.
How do OTA updates work? Do they only apply to a certain kind of stock ROMs? Do custom ROMs have OTA updates?
thanks,
Depending on hboot yes s-off is preferred because it makes flashing easier. You will not have to flash boot image seperately. Some custom roms have ota built in so that you are notified of a new version. Once you start the unlock process it is wise to never take an ota update for stock Rom. Aosp such as Avatar and Sense based Viperxl both can be ota updated. There are more. It will usaully state these capabilities on the page.
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Depending on hboot yes s-off is preferred because it makes flashing easier. You will not have to flash boot image seperately. Some custom roms have ota built in so that you are notified of a new version. Once you start the unlock process it is wise to never take an ota update for stock Rom. Aosp such as Avatar and Sense based Viperxl both can be ota updated. There are more. It will usaully state these capabilities on the page.
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When you say I shouldn't take an OTA update after unlocking the bootloader, why is that?
Let's say I unlock the bootloader, but keep the stock rogers ROM and OTA update it. These are just OS updates right? they shouldn't touch the bootloader or do they?
Also, if the Rogers Bootloader is not locked down, then do I even need to unlock it? or do you guys mean it's unlockABLE and still needs to be unlocked?
Does rooting also make a device not OTA'able?
Finally, how are the bootloaders tied to the FW version and to the OS version? Coming from an iPhone, there was the baseband/Radio FW and OS versions, and sometimes a specific hardware version, but that's it. what's the heirarchy for the bootloader and the FW, and the OS?
finally, if there's a good resource that answers a lot of these "android rom 101" questions, please send along a link. I know you guys are busy!
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37665520
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40223035
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Thanks venomtester, I was just on those pages when I went to check for your reply.. =)
For a general question to the Rogers HOX folks...
just wanted to confirm the following workflow:
1) unlock my rogers HOX with htcdev unlock process
2) get root by running superboot r2
2) run facepalm to s-off my HOX
4) pick a ROM and flash!
That sound about right? I'm not missing anything obvious? I'm not entirely sure if the tools like superboot r2 and facepalm have been superceded by other tools. Especially with all the AT&T specific processes...
This certainly is a few more steps than I'm used to from my Windows Mobile days... =)
Thanks again,
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Thanks venomtester, I was just on those pages when I went to check for your reply.. =)
For a general question to the Rogers HOX folks...
just wanted to confirm the following workflow:
1) unlock my rogers HOX with htcdev unlock process
2) get root by running superboot r2
2) run facepalm to s-off my HOX
4) pick a ROM and flash!
That sound about right? I'm not missing anything obvious? I'm not entirely sure if the tools like superboot r2 and facepalm have been superceded by other tools. Especially with all the AT&T specific processes...
This certainly is a few more steps than I'm used to from my Windows Mobile days... =)
Thanks again,
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Step 2 should be flash TWRP 2.3.x.x no need for superboot r2?... not sure what that is.
And you'll need to flash a rooted rom before S-OFF or let TWRP root your rom if your hboot is under 2.14
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Deleted. Sorry ex ad. Didn't see your post.
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Lol, I don't care if other people answer too, so long as they're not answering with the wrong info. There's a few of us so it's hard to coordinate Didn't mean to jack your helping
Oh no sir. You didn't jack at all as I was going to quote your earlier post from a different thread.
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Thanks again guys!
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Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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My two Rogers one x handsets came with lock bootloaders. I just unlocked my second on on Saturday.
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What he was saying is they can be unlocked without having to change the cid which is what us with att phones have to do
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