Do we really need one? Are there any out there we can get our hands on :]
Never got to use an Eng hboot on my old phone, want to see what they can do..
From what I understand, we can do most of the stuff eng hboots do currently, like flashing a splash, radio from fastboot, etc. ?
and instead of making another thread.. Can we use S-off to carrier unlock? :\
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What is the difference between 'regular' s-off and radio s-off? is it just two different areas of nand that are locked separately? If that is the case, why would you ever want to only unlock one and not all?
I assume this is all basic stuff for the HTC vets, but the inspire is my first HTC phone.
Thanks
http://tinyurl.com/4ztqe45
jokes, jokes.
really though, from the first result...
SPL/Bootloader/Radio/Bricking Phones:
SPL / Bootloader is like BIOS on a computer. At least I think of it that way. SPL can be updated! SPL comes as either Security-On of Security-Off (S-ON/S-OFF).
Note: It is my understanding that radio will boot first, followed by other systems. So it is IMPORTANT that your radio image/version will work with your SPL image/version. This is the one and only reason for phones being bricked. You can not brick your phone by flashing a ROM or Boot image or recovery image. Once you flash the wrong radio for the SPL, the only known method of recovery is to send the phone back into HTC for repair.
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LOL, no, that is funny. I need to bookmark that.
I had searchedboth Google and the forums. I understand that s off is turning off Sig checking on updates. More wanted to know why there is separate soff and radio soff.
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There's S-Off and then ENG S-Off. The latter allows you to flash radio.img.
I'm htcdev unlocked, now is it better to downgrade and s-off myself or spend the £14.99 and have it done by xtcclip. I know there is a fair mix of both methods in this forum. What are the pros/cons of each.
Are you sure xtc works on latest bootloader? If not you'll have to downgrade anyway
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Know very little about xtcclip and can't seem to find that much about what it does or how, hence the question.Sorry if it's already in a topic it seems it appears as a lot of answers but can't seem to find a clear topic on the subject.
XTC Clip:
Pros:
forever S-Off, clear SIMLOCK etc, Super CID
Cons:
no OTA's since you have super CID, never ever S-On again, no of warranty anymore
I have an XTC Clip here but have decided that I'll take the downgrad way with revolutionary.io .
Then I had the 7.xx Bootloader, installed CWM Recovery and downgraded it to ENG 2.00.2002 Bootloader.
Everything works fine for me that way.
Ok, last one. If I downgrade will I be able to use existing nandroid backups created or will I have to ditch them
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You will only be S-OFF and Super CID, so yes you can use them.
Well I've been considering it as it would also give me SIM free I think. I'm due for upgrade on December and would make it more saleable. So thinking doing the downgrade to enable the clip. Wasn't sure the backup would need the same hboot
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That depends on the ROM
if not you can downgrad hboot and flash an ENG hboot 2.00.2002
I've done this after S-OFF'ing with revolutionary as I would keep the CID since im on a HTC CID with no branding.
mmHg intention was to flash the eng hboot, also the new radio
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Then you should be able to use you old backups again.
Because you have your old partition layout again.
Hi guys
I'd like to know if there are some radios that have any advantages like better stability/battery life over the others.
My phone is currently on 20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04 with Hboot 2.00.002. I know for Desire XS, the Dev recommends 20.76.30.0835U_3831.19.00.110 and 2.00.2002 or 7.00.1002 but to attain this, I must flash the ICS RUU, which I'm not keen on(I've heard it has bugs). Are there any equivalent radios to the one for Desire XS or any radio better than my current one ?
My phone is currently 2.00.002, HTCDev Unlocked, S-On. I plan on relocking, flashing an RUU with a 0.98 bootloader, using Revolutionary to unlock and S-Off and then flash another radio+Hboot if I must. Will I need to flash this with an RUU or can it be flashed in fastboot on its own ?
Sorry for asking so many questions in one post, but I've been struggling to figure out a way around this for a few weeks now.
Any direction as to get the best combination of Hboot+Radio would be appreciated.
hboot as well as radio can be flashed via fastboot without installing ruu
I was looking also to change the radio on my Desire S; for now, I didn't to it yet (it was to solve problems with 2G-3G on CM10, but probably this has nothing to do with radio).
I have read on this forum that there are no rules to know which radio works better: it depends on the network you are using. Some radio's will word better for you, but not necessarily for others.
Hello,
I am quite confused about the term SuperCID and what it means. My sister got a HTC One S. I unlocked and unrooted it for her quite a long time ago. Now, I want to get S-off but I can't do it because I don't have SuperCID. I read on the forum and some people say that Super CID means your phone is unlocked, while other say you have to use the command "fastboot oem readcid" to check if you get SuperCID.
I use "fastboot oem readcid" on the HTC One S and it shows TMOB010. Then does that mean that I don't have SuperCID? Then what exactly is SuperCID when the HTC One S is already shown "Unlocked and Tampered" on the fastboot screen. Pleas let me know. I am quite confused with all this terminology. I can look up direction to get SuperCID but I want to be sure that the phone has it or not before I proceed.
Thank you for your help
vi6s said:
Hello,
I am quite confused about the term SuperCID and what it means. My sister got a HTC One S. I unlocked and unrooted it for her quite a long time ago. Now, I want to get S-off but I can't do it because I don't have SuperCID. I read on the forum and some people say that Super CID means your phone is unlocked, while other say you have to use the command "fastboot oem readcid" to check if you get SuperCID.
I use "fastboot oem readcid" on the HTC One S and it shows TMOB010. Then does that mean that I don't have SuperCID? Then what exactly is SuperCID when the HTC One S is already shown "Unlocked and Tampered" on the fastboot screen. Pleas let me know. I am quite confused with all this terminology. I can look up direction to get SuperCID but I want to be sure that the phone has it or not before I proceed.
Thank you for your help
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SuperCID will be a seven digit string of the same number (1111111, 2222222 etc). These CIDs gain special access to partitions normally locked down (how they test stuff). Having this CID means you can do more stuff, meaning write different sectors etc.
So TMOB010 means you don't have it.
To make a complete answer; unlocked is just when you unlock your phone via HTC's website which allows you special access to partitions and fastboot, however not all partitions are accessible - whereas with SuperCID you can access them all.
ZackehSoul said:
SuperCID will be a seven digit string of the same number (1111111, 2222222 etc). These CIDs gain special access to partitions normally locked down (how they test stuff). Having this CID means you can do more stuff, meaning write different sectors etc.
So TMOB010 means you don't have it.
To make a complete answer; unlocked is just when you unlock your phone via HTC's website which allows you special access to partitions and fastboot, however not all partitions are accessible - whereas with SuperCID you can access them all.
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correction.
supercid does not allow special acces of different partitions, who told you that.
its just a masterkey for stock softwareversion implementation, nothing more.
its either a eng-hboot or a s-off implementation that gives you that freedom.
real187 said:
correction.
supercid does not allow special acces of different partitions, who told you that.
its just a masterkey for stock softwareversion implementation, nothing more.
its either a eng-hboot or a s-off implementation that gives you that freedom.
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That's incorrect. You can have a stock HBOOT and be S-ON with SuperCID. SuperCID isn't the implementation, it's a way to gain the implementation. And it allows you special access in that it's a masterkey...
Example; I gain S-OFF with Moonshine. Does that mean I have SuperCID? No. Does that mean I have an ENG HBOOT? Yes. Can I reflash that HBOOT to stock and keep S-OFF? Yes.
SuperCID allows the flashing of any ROM regardless of the carrier it was meant for (special access) and it also allows for the writing of Ext_ROM (special access, again - see CID LOCK).
ZackehSoul said:
That's incorrect. You can have a stock HBOOT and be S-ON with SuperCID. SuperCID isn't the implementation, it's a way to gain the implementation. And it allows you special access in that it's a masterkey...
Example; I gain S-OFF with Moonshine. Does that mean I have SuperCID? No. Does that mean I have an ENG HBOOT? Yes. Can I reflash that HBOOT to stock and keep S-OFF? Yes
SuperCID allows the flashing of any ROM regardless of the carrier it was meant for (special access) and it also allows for the writing of Ext_ROM (special access, again - see CID LOCK).
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No supercid is just a generic cid.
It has no hardware advantage over a stock cid. It's mainly used for unbranding.
I always have my devices on stock hboot and stock cid. Only s-off is what I want.
Haven't found anything I couldn't flash.
Like your link says VENDERLOCK thus software.
It's the unlock (xda-dev) part that provides the access of certain partitions.
With s-off even more is available.
S-off and hboot have no direct relation.
Example: Lower stock hboots can flash radio with only a unlocked device. Higher can't.
What's the difference a device unlocked supercid and a device unlocked unbranded cid. ?
Is there any rom custom that can't be flashed with just unlocking,
Lets make it supercid can I flash more roms?
Its just an coincidence that with the newer devices supercid was needed for getting s-off. It didn't used to be that way.
Hell easy unlocking didn't even exist.
It was s-off or bust mostly.
The link you give is not that clear.
ext_rom have you read there description?
I don't think that's a really secured partition. Do you?
Typing on a phone is fukd if it gets to big.
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real187 said:
No supercid is just a generic cid.
It has no hardware advantage over a stock cid. It's mainly used for unbranding.
I always have my devices on stock hboot and stock cid. Only s-off is what I want.
Haven't found anything I couldn't flash.
Like your link says VENDERLOCK thus software.
It's the unlock (xda-dev) part that provides the access of certain partitions.
With s-off even more is available.
S-off and hboot have no direct relation.
Example: Lower stock hboots can flash radio with only a unlocked device. Higher can't.
What's the difference a device unlocked supercid and a device unlocked unbranded cid. ?
Is there any rom custom that can't be flashed with just unlocking,
Lets make it supercid can I flash more roms?
Its just an coincidence that with the newer devices supercid was needed for getting s-off. It didn't used to be that way.
Hell easy unlocking didn't even exist.
It was s-off or bust mostly.
The link you give is not that clear.
ext_rom have you read there description?
I don't think that's a really secured partition. Do you?
Typing on a phone is fukd if it gets to big.
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Yeah exactly it removes the vendor lock which gives you access to write partitions you otherwise wouldn't be allowed to in that way.
I think we're actually arguing the same point here dude Think I misread your point about HBOOT in the second post.
ZackehSoul said:
Yeah exactly it removes the vendor lock which gives you access to write partitions you otherwise wouldn't be allowed to in that way.
I think we're actually arguing the same point here dude Think I misread your point about HBOOT in the second post.
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Hmm...., so, based on the info, it means SuperCID is not that different from generic CID. However, you need it to get S-Off, which in turn allows you to write to different partition. Because my ultimate goal is to get S-off to update my sister phone to the CyanogenMod 10.2. Is that correct or did I miss anything?
vi6s said:
Hmm...., so, based on the info, it means SuperCID is not that different from generic CID. However, you need it to get S-Off, which in turn allows you to write to different partition. Because my ultimate goal is to get S-off to update my sister phone to the CyanogenMod 10.2. Is that correct or did I miss anything?
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Blunt answer: you need superCID for S-OFF, unlock isn't enough by itself.
so i managed to solve my recovery problem. i finally got twrp 2712 onto my device.
bootloader is unlocked
recovery on
superuser on..
hboot 2.15 s-on
i dont remember dealing with supercid when i rooted my old htc incredible.. from what im reading it allows us to use other carrier roms on the device?? im on tmobile and comfortable with that.. is modifying the CID actually necessary? im not planning on receiving any ota's n such.. just want the ability to flash radio's if need be and roms.. If i can skip CId and go to s-off that'd be fine with me, unless its needed for something else.. Will Ibe able to s-off without CID modified? cracking this ****er has been a little bit more difficult the past few phones ive had to do.. thanks much for the help..
As a noob, I installed CM 11 in February without s-off or super-cid (was too afraid to brick my phone). CM works great without s-off, but you need to flash boot.IMG on every update via fastboot.
I did s-off with rumrunner recently without Super-CID. Read my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56185478<br/>
so in moonshine i was getting nowhere.. i had no inclination that the Yes/No were case sensitive to be executed....
Currently in test 3, mhy 7th row of **********..