When I had CleanRom and Cleankernel installed I could do both USB charging, and usb hosting at the same time. This is incredibly useful because I have a little android gaming rig utilizing an external battery. I was just wondering, does anyone know of a kernel that would allow that same functionality with viperxl 3.2.3 ? I searched the forums for the HoX but to no avail.
augoosto said:
When I had CleanRom and Cleankernel installed I could do both USB charging, and usb hosting at the same time. This is incredibly useful because I have a little android gaming rig utilizing an external battery. I was just wondering, does anyone know of a kernel that would allow that same functionality with viperxl 3.2.3 ? I searched the forums for the HoX but to no avail.
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It's built into the new sense 4+ kernels. No custom kernels are needed for this anymore
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I flashed the stock kernel that comes with ViperXl and that functionality is a no go, could there be something im missing here?
augoosto said:
I flashed the stock kernel that comes with ViperXl and that functionality is a no go, could there be something im missing here?
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You will need to download stickmount to mount the usb
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OTG functionality is not what I am talking about, I know how to mount external storage, I am talking about being able to charge and host at the same time, from the same cable.
I was looking for that function too but i didnt know cleanrom had it. :/
I'm actually waiting now to get some pins and a case and making a pogo charger so i can charge thru the pogo and use the micro usb for otg
Will the newest CleanROM enable charge while hosting?
I believe the kernel is what determines support. CleanROM leaves that aspect up to the kernel devs (like flar and zarb0z).
I wonder if it just depends on what type of cable is used. Perhaps the power wires on a y cable only goes to the usb stick. I really don't know enough to figure it out. I guess if a gs3 can charge the phone with a y cable then that means the y cable should work in theory.
It would be interesting to see if any other HTC phones can do this. Unfortunately I think flar already develops kernels for all similar HTC phones (like the HTC one s). It's a pitty he doesn't chime in.
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Just wondering. Waiting to really do some fun stuff with this fun if/when we gain that capability. Does anyone know if any of our roms have it?
Bulletproof doesn't yet but I was around and very closely following that develop from nothing to something on the Nook Color and have at least some of the project files from playing along way back when.
It's on the short list when I get the chance to start working on the ROM again, because I plan to use that as a band-aid for the PS3 controller while working on fixing the BT issue around that in Sense.
It would also be nice to be able to plug in and use my handful of flash drives while out and about using the compact package the doubleshot is instead of having to rely on something as large as the tablet as the best I got.
Right now there are other issues to work out on the device first as far as my dev time is allocated, and I can't speak for any other dev's work, but I am curious as well to know if anyone else is spending time on this.
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Thanks Blue "The Reason I Still Have My Doubleshot" 6IX. I am looking forward to the day this arrives. Been in the NC forum salivating over USB host stuff. It's more than a bit for my skill level at this point but fascinating! I'm going to mainly be utilizing DSLR Controller.
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Blue6IX said:
Right now there are other issues to work out on the device first as far as my dev time is allocated, and I can't speak for any other dev's work, but I am curious as well to know if anyone else is spending time on this.
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Well I'm so glad you have a plan
Just a side question for you Blue: IF we do get a OTA update from T-Mobile or HTC and it is ICS...would you rebase to that and start developing for ICS?
Because I see you are trying hard to make the stock ROM all that it can be; but if we get a OTA ICS would you switch your attention to making that 'all that it can be?'
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!
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Bulletproof doesn't yet but I was around and very closely following that develop from nothing to something on the Nook Color and have at least some of the project files from playing along way back when.
It's on the short list when I get the chance to start working on the ROM again, because I plan to use that as a band-aid for the PS3 controller while working on fixing the BT issue around that in Sense.
It would also be nice to be able to plug in and use my handful of flash drives while out and about using the compact package the doubleshot is instead of having to rely on something as large as the tablet as the best I got.
Right now there are other issues to work out on the device first as far as my dev time is allocated, and I can't speak for any other dev's work, but I am curious as well to know if anyone else is spending time on this.
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whaddya mean ps3 controller? is my doubleshot going to finally work on a ps3? O.O and what is usb host support exactly anyways and what can it be used to do ?
Appreciate the kind words _atlien_
@CoNsPiRiSiZe :
If HTC releases an official ICS ROM with corresponding kernel source, i'd jump on that pretty exclusively in an instant without a backward thought.
The only kernel source we have is 2.6.35.10 which corresponds to the 1.28.531.9 / .10 software version. This is really the limiter on my decision for what to work with.
Being as this is my first Android phone, I don't really know enough yet about how it works to be comfortable writing my own source for a kernel (basically) from scratch like tbalden and others are doing, so starting with a working and official source is necessary at this point in my education so I can make progress instead of a mess.
I imagine by the time I eventually move on to another device I'll know enough to just do what I want. Not having prior experience with this stuff is a bit frustrating sometimes because I do really want to play with ICS and the latest and greatest Google is providing us. Intentionally ignoring it sucks, but i'd rather make progress and not problems, hence this is my pennance for not getting a smart phone before this device launched.
I'd rather get a solid education then a whole lot of scattered knowledge if possible, my aim is for being involved with Android for a long time to come so having the patience and restraint to build a solid base of knowledge on how it works will serve me well in the future, even if it forces me to work with yesterday's software now.
Think of it like learning to drive a stickshift on a $200 beater P.O.S. instead of in a lamborghini - you could do it either way but one method makes more sense then the other.
The other thing, though, is the balance of trying to do what would most benefit the whole doubleshot user base the most instead of just the people on my ROM or whatever, so something like working on and posting details about progress on S-OFF trumps it all because that is the single most important issue I can help with I think. Even if I don't get it, maybe my notes and discoveries will help someone else solve it who has a better understanding or more experience with that kind of stuff.
Both of my devices were S-OFF and I had to go out of my way to learn how to put one S-ON again to work on the problem, I could have just ignored it because it didn't affect me but i'd rather try to help everyone, at any cost, then just serve my own selfish desires.
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The question still remains, though, is anyone else working on USB host / OTG cable support?
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whaddya mean ps3 controller? is my doubleshot going to finally work on a ps3? O.O and what is usb host support exactly anyways and what can it be used to do ?
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PS3 controllers cannot connect to and be used by HTC Sense devices, the bluetooth software HTC went with prevents it. If you flash an AOSP ROM you can use one, though, so it's not that it doesn't work but that HTC doesn't want to let us. (Technically broadcomm, but their name isn't printed on the device)
USB host support means that if you get a micro-usb to female USB cable or an adapter you could plug in flash drives, portable hard drives or even other devices to this phone directly.
Since I can get usb cables and adapters at the dollar store now, they aren't hard to come by.
Being able to plug in a flash drive, or install linux on the doubleshot and use it to run the android sdk and program other phones or android devices by plugging it in to this one would be nice - I can install linux on my nook color and then plug this phone into it directly and run fastboot commands while I'm sitting on the bus or something without a bulky laptop - pretty sweet, huh?
No reason we can't do it with this nice, tiny, portable android powehouse other then someone hasn't sat down to take the time and make it happen.
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I thought the cable used for the ps3 was for charging only and still sends signal via bluetooth. I knoww that's how the xbox works with it's plug and play kit.
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PS3 controllers communicate with either USB or bluetooth. He was refering to using the bluetooth part with our phones and "sixaxis controller" app to pair them together.
Any new word on this?
I know tbalden an kornyone have put together a customized kernel for the CM9 alpha releases in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644084
I haven't seen any mention of USB host mode, but I don't have enough posts on xda to ask if that's even a consideration.
my aokp rom has customizable usb host support. idk if cm does
Man, I'd love to see OTG in Miktouch or one of the Sense ICS ROMs.
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UPDATED 10-27-2012 (r7b)
ROM
This is the stable version of CyanogenMod 9.1 with some modifications:
- Battery drain bug fixed
- Remote Wipe hack/exploit patched (see here)
- Includes modified kernel (see next section)
Stable Kernel
- Linux Kernel 3.0.48
- Kernel debugging disabled to improve performance]
- USB Fast Charge - credit to yank555-lu and xmc-wildchild22
- Undervolting tweaks - credit to xmc-wildchild22
- Overclocked GPU - credit to xmc-wildchild22
- Snapdragon optimizations - credit to xmc-wildchild22
- Inverted front facing camera mirroring issue [r3] (CyanogenMod)
- bluetooth deep sleep issue fixed (lpm -- credit to Agrabren) - modified in [r5] to (hopefully) reduce wifi drain issues
- ondemandx governor (existz [email protected])
- lulzactive, lulzactiveq, and hotplug governors (thanks to SilverL for the pull request)
- IO Schedulers: noopp, deadline, cfq, sio, vr
- USB OTG support (SebastianFM)
- Camera flash enabled down to 5% battery [r7]
- zsmalloc from kernel 3.5 (godmachine81) [r7]
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Too bad it isn't a Sense ROM. Hopefully, someone will be able to incorporate it into one soon. I just don't like CM or AOKP at all.
Free l0cal mates cheap gotovvvvvv.JUSTKIDDING !!!
Due to the amount of security on these pages I don't really think we will get spam on these forums ever!
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I have an HTC One XL (like most of the ones reading/posting on this section). I've been searching the forums but I can't seem to find someone even talking about the possibility of enabling/adding OTG functionality on a kernel for one of the builds outhere. I find it awful since I would love to use the USB Host function. It would be great to start talking about it.
The only ROM that uses it that I know of is EternityProject. But that's a no go. Maybe it's just me but seems extremely buggy and rather away from a vanilla ROM.
Can one of these stock kernels be somewhat easily modified (For you all-mighy-ones not the chefs) to include USB Host? Even if not tampering with power, but just data, then we could attach a powered usb Hub and we would all be happy. I just can't believe no one has requested this; we DO have the source kernels already available aren't we? or maybe I'm missing something.
First post, please bear with me, hehe. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Rocking CleanMOD 4.5 Final with Stock everything else, EVITA_ATT_1.85_Radio_0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L. If it matters.
Thanks again!!
Anyone? Comments, ideas?
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Free l0cal mates cheap gotovvvvvv.JUSTKIDDING !!!
Due to the amount of security on these pages I don't really think we will get spam on these forums ever!
Now the real deal.
I have an HTC One XL (like most of the ones reading/posting on this section). I've been searching the forums but I can't seem to find someone even talking about the possibility of enabling/adding OTG functionality on a kernel for one of the builds outhere. I find it awful since I would love to use the USB Host function. It would be great to start talking about it.
The only ROM that uses it that I know of is EternityProject. But that's a no go. Maybe it's just me but seems extremely buggy and rather away from a vanilla ROM.
Can one of these stock kernels be somewhat easily modified (For you all-mighy-ones not the chefs) to include USB Host? Even if not tampering with power, but just data, then we could attach a powered usb Hub and we would all be happy. I just can't believe no one has requested this; we DO have the source kernels already available aren't we? or maybe I'm missing something.
First post, please bear with me, hehe. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Rocking CleanMOD 4.5 Final with Stock everything else, EVITA_ATT_1.85_Radio_0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L. If it matters.
Thanks again!!
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Nope, we dont have kernel source for 4.0.4, the ROM base for all the newer ROMs. Thats why you dont see a ton of kernels around here. And the one that htc provided isn't even complete Until then, no usb otg for us.
On that note. Last HTC phone I'll buy!
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On that note. Last HTC phone I'll buy!
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lol, drama queen
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so, just got a new otg cable for the one x. when i plug it in it says the power cable i plugged in isn't supported. also read somewhere this function is disabled on our one x, but could work it just the kernel we have doesn't support otg cables yet. and anyone tried using one, or is there any future plans for support for otg in a new kernel? the international one x is supposed to get the function in a new 3x kernel. just a question and an idea for any devs looking to make a new kernel and maybe try to integrate this function into it. as of now it doesn't work on my end. thanks for looking, and any advice.
It doesn't work for anybody atm. I believe rohan32 is looking to build a kernel with it soon. Building a kernel is much harder than a ROM so it may take a little while.
awesome. well thanks for the reply, it nice to know that support may be in the works for our device. i got the cable on ebay for about a dollar so it not like i went overboard to get it, im just prepared for some awesomeness when it comes.
I have been asking myself this question over and over again. I'm on viper 1.2 Rom with zarboz kernal which supports otg which is the biggest part for me.
I have read and looked at numerous threads on New roms for jb and so far only one kernal. Lots of little bugs compared to ics. Sure it runs faster on benchmarks but that does not bother me.
Has anyone regretted upgrading or is it really worth it or wait till HTC god knows whenever it will be to update jb to fix all the bugs
In my opinion, if you want JB you should get an AOSP rom like a CM10 based one.
If sense is important to you - stick with ICS. Viper is an excellent rom and zarboz kernel is also very good.
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In my opinion, if you want JB you should get an AOSP rom like a CM10 based one.
If sense is important to you - stick with ICS. Viper is an excellent rom and zarboz kernel is also very good.
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Ah yeah I'm sticking with sense. I need otg really for moving files and movies to memory sticks. 10gb holds nothing lol
JB have native support for memory sticks (usb otg).
But the good thing about zarboz 4.0.4 kernel is that it doesnt require an OTG-cable, it works with any microusb cable with a female-to-female adapter
I stopped waiting for an official JB update, so I rooted and flashed a JB ROM
Not only do I get JB, but also the pure JB lockscreen and interface that I really like
Also, battery life is a zillion times better, buttery smoothness is very nice, no lag, etc ....
I do miss some Sense features, but for me the pros outweigh the cons
The ROM is JellyBAM 3.1.0
My only issue has been battery life with sense jellybean. Everything else is great. Inbetween ROMS currently and testing seeing which works best.
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JB have native support for memory sticks (usb otg).
But the good thing about zarboz 4.0.4 kernel is that it doesnt require an OTG-cable, it works with any microusb cable with a female-to-female adapter
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That's what I'm using at the minute just the lead of the charger and female to female adapter. But ordering one today usb otg cable.
I'm sticking with sense. Been using it since I had android phones unroll I got the HTC in June 2011. Just prefer sense now. I find aosp boring
I agree with sense vs aosp. This is my first HTC device (well, unless you count my HTC Wizard(QTec 9100)), and sense does feel kinda fresh and "new".
All my other devices are running AOSP, and now the S does too... Feels kinda meh interface-wise, theres no visual differences between the S and my other devices now.
However, the AOSP(CM10) rom is working damn good.
Once the kernel source for JB is released and we get more custom roms for JB I'll probably switch back.
Has anyone had any luck tracking down a decent ROM (much preferably one as close to vanilla android as possible) that actually still has working MHL? I've done a good bit of searching through most of the individual ROM threads and it seems like this is something that is hardly ever mentioned. I realize that it's missing in CM, much to my sadness as that has been my best experience with a custom ROM thus far. need something that works with my appradio 2!
I'm on $droyd$'s jellybean nonsense build 6 right now and it's not bad, but still too HTC-y for my tastes (plus i'm on hboot 1.14.0004 right now so no wifi for me )
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Has anyone had any luck tracking down a decent ROM (much preferably one as close to vanilla android as possible) that actually still has working MHL? I've done a good bit of searching through most of the individual ROM threads and it seems like this is something that is hardly ever mentioned. I realize that it's missing in CM, much to my sadness as that has been my best experience with a custom ROM thus far. need something that works with my appradio 2!
I'm on $droyd$'s jellybean nonsense build 6 right now and it's not bad, but still too HTC-y for my tastes (plus i'm on hboot 1.14.0004 right now so no wifi for me )
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Dark jelly s edition supports OTG im using bubba kernel along with this... Will check the MHL availability and will post back...
Cheers
This interests me too. In my test of different ROMs I found that trick droid and viper work but make the phone freeze after the mhl cord is removed. Black bean, avatar, jellybam and codename lungo don't work with mhl. None of the awesome cm based ones are supposed to work with hdmi
I keep going back to nonsense which has since been closed. I only have version 4 and version 6 seems to be unavailable for download. Now after almost 5 months as my daily driver I started having Bluetooth issues and I have to load music via USB from the recovery since that must have been removed from it.
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I got the same results
jillora said:
This interests me too. In my test of different ROMs I found that trick droid and viper work but make the phone freeze after the mhl cord is removed. Black bean, avatar, jellybam and codename lungo don't work with mhl. None of the awesome cm based ones are supposed to work with hdmi
I keep going back to nonsense which has since been closed. I only have version 4 and version 6 seems to be unavailable for download. Now after almost 5 months as my daily driver I started having Bluetooth issues and I have to load music via USB from the recovery since that must have been removed from it.
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I have the same problems, freezing when disconecting mhl cord y trick droid and viper. And with trickdroid 10.x.x there is no output.
I also have opened thead in Q&A, to see if Torxx can help us with trickdroid 10.x.x