I have been asking myself this question over and over again. I'm on viper 1.2 Rom with zarboz kernal which supports otg which is the biggest part for me.
I have read and looked at numerous threads on New roms for jb and so far only one kernal. Lots of little bugs compared to ics. Sure it runs faster on benchmarks but that does not bother me.
Has anyone regretted upgrading or is it really worth it or wait till HTC god knows whenever it will be to update jb to fix all the bugs
In my opinion, if you want JB you should get an AOSP rom like a CM10 based one.
If sense is important to you - stick with ICS. Viper is an excellent rom and zarboz kernel is also very good.
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In my opinion, if you want JB you should get an AOSP rom like a CM10 based one.
If sense is important to you - stick with ICS. Viper is an excellent rom and zarboz kernel is also very good.
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Ah yeah I'm sticking with sense. I need otg really for moving files and movies to memory sticks. 10gb holds nothing lol
JB have native support for memory sticks (usb otg).
But the good thing about zarboz 4.0.4 kernel is that it doesnt require an OTG-cable, it works with any microusb cable with a female-to-female adapter
I stopped waiting for an official JB update, so I rooted and flashed a JB ROM
Not only do I get JB, but also the pure JB lockscreen and interface that I really like
Also, battery life is a zillion times better, buttery smoothness is very nice, no lag, etc ....
I do miss some Sense features, but for me the pros outweigh the cons
The ROM is JellyBAM 3.1.0
My only issue has been battery life with sense jellybean. Everything else is great. Inbetween ROMS currently and testing seeing which works best.
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JB have native support for memory sticks (usb otg).
But the good thing about zarboz 4.0.4 kernel is that it doesnt require an OTG-cable, it works with any microusb cable with a female-to-female adapter
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That's what I'm using at the minute just the lead of the charger and female to female adapter. But ordering one today usb otg cable.
I'm sticking with sense. Been using it since I had android phones unroll I got the HTC in June 2011. Just prefer sense now. I find aosp boring
I agree with sense vs aosp. This is my first HTC device (well, unless you count my HTC Wizard(QTec 9100)), and sense does feel kinda fresh and "new".
All my other devices are running AOSP, and now the S does too... Feels kinda meh interface-wise, theres no visual differences between the S and my other devices now.
However, the AOSP(CM10) rom is working damn good.
Once the kernel source for JB is released and we get more custom roms for JB I'll probably switch back.
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So now that we have multiple roms based on Sense 4.0, which one is the best for you and why?
As for me I am still waiting the next step for fixes
"Best" is simply not to tell.
What works great is Kings Rom. Tried all 4.0 Sense-Roms til now. Virtuos was the first rom I flashed and a lot of things worked great, but BT with headset didn't work. That seems to work with Kings rom. Also tried Elegancia as I am using Elegancia roms since I rooted and s-off'ed my phone.
Til now all sense 4.0 roms seem to have some difficulties. Mostly animations won't work and on some BT won't do.
Til problems are solved, I'll revert to sense 3.6
Now all based sense 4 are the same and they have same problem.
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In terms of speed and stability?
Are same till now ..
If you're looking for speed and stability, don't go with any of them. Even the One S version is for a phone with an S4 processor, we have an S3. Unfortunately, while the S3 is still powerful, the S4 has many improvements from what I hear. Sense 4 roms may never be as fast as 3.6 or AOSP-like roms.
So now we have 3 main roms:
-Baadnewz
-Shnizlon
-Virtuous
I want to choose between Baad beta 10 and Shnizlon 1.6.0
Help!
There can't be no good ROM for now, cause the source for Sense 4.0 just been out for a few days. I'll wait for some more stable versions.
I think after trying all of the Sense 4.0 roms, Virtuous S4X is probably the best.
I am on Baadnewz beta 10 (perhaps upgrading to 12) and I am very happy!
Everything work,fast enough and very little bugs.
Only Rootexplorer is not working as app
BT is not working of course. I wonder if they will make it work one day, it's a BT 4.0 and Sensation is 3.0
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If you're looking for speed and stability, don't go with any of them. Even the One S version is for a phone with an S4 processor, we have an S3. Unfortunately, while the S3 is still powerful, the S4 has many improvements from what I hear. Sense 4 roms may never be as fast as 3.6 or AOSP-like roms.
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That being said, please do remember that the HTC One V also has Sense 4.0.
I have been running Virtuous for the past few days, and there is absolutely no lag anywhere!
There are no nightlies yet for the sensation? i searched but i havent found a single post in the devs area with cm9 , just roms based on it
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There are no nightlies yet for the sensation? i searched but i havent found a single post in the devs area with cm9 , just roms based on it
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They're not really working on it yet. The Sensation is in their second wave of devices that they're seriously focusing on.
Team Venom
I've searched this web for quite a while, and the Viper3D is by far the best 4.0 sense ICS out there. I have no issues, and the simple little quirks that it did have are solved. Wonderful daily rom, constant updates with a little humor and I've flashed each and every one of them including the multies. Everything works, tweaks are fabulous, I have no complaints and it has been my daily driver for quite a while and don't see my self changing it.
Anything Virus is included in, I'm following, and with the well established and newly named Venom team? They are setting it off!!!!
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CDMA
I just got my Asurion replacement Senny(my previous Senny was stolen on Friday 3/16). I now need to S-Off, SuperCID, root, change recovery, etc all over again. I was thinking about keeping it stock since I thought the T-Mobile ICS update was imminent. If it's not, I might as well install ARHD, InsertCoin, or Virtuous. In lieu of trying to read through the 200+ pages of posts in the developer's sections, can someone quickly outline how far the developers have come with the ICS roms. I installed ICS (InsertCoin) a few months ago, but there were too many bugs. With official ICS Ruu's being released, are the custom ICS Roms stable enough for the Tmobile branded Senny 4G?
Are we at Daily Driver stage?!
P.S.
It seems like the only issue with ICS right now is TMob's Wifi Calling, which I never use.
Now the kernel source has been released we're pretty much there in terms of stability. TMOUS OTA will round things up nicely
every ICS custom ROM ive flashed has been stable. Every ICS ROM thread ive read said it was stable.
Id say they are stable lol
Most ROMs are stable even AOSP but only ROMs based on 3.6 have everything working.
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Been running VI4.0 for the past 2 weeks not a single problem excellent ROM for a daily if u ask me.
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They have been stable for months. Try a few and enjoy
Iv been around since the sensation was released and it has been a long haul to get some stability and performance from these phones, they had the power just didn't have the right pair with software code. The transfer from GB to ICS showed a noticeable increase in performance even from the untouched 3.6 OTA ROM but the performance is not perfect, it is good and a lot better than GB but not perfect (perfectionist here). AOSP ROMS offer higher performance in regards to UI experience but lack in stability and variety, i have managed to find the cm9 rom recently the most stable and fastest rom in UI performance and stability.
This is my list of great rom's for the different ones that there are.
ARHD 6.5.2 (STABLE AND MOFO FAST) (SENSE 3.6)
OPENSENSATION CM9 (STABLE AND FASTEST) (AOSP)
MIUI (STABLE BUT NOT FAST) (SENSELESS NOT AOSP)
MIUI TRIPNRAVER (FAST BUT NOT STABLE) (AOSP)
Yet to find a sense 4.0 stable rom yet.
I have tried many others but these stand out on top of each of the different roms there are.
JUST MY OPINION.
Biggest issues with ICS ROMs for us TMobilie US users are the included TMo apps (My Account/Account manager) and WiFi Calling.
Account manger doesn't work, flat out.
Wi Fi calling will work, but it'll drop calls sometimes a minute or two in.
The latest AHRD with the change that keeps the launcher in memory is really smoking.
Great battery life, super stable and smoking fast...
Just nandroid and try a few....
Thanks for all of the fast responses. There is a reason that I spend so much time on XDA. Awesome Community!!
Rockfoo.
I know there were posts with official ICS ROMs, you can flash one.
As T-mo user I'm a bit hesitant to flush it now, waiting for official OTA.
Of course T-mo is loading ROM with their crap right now and who knows when it will be released. I'll wait for coupe of weeks and if nothing comes out, I will flash the one I saw in EddyOS' post somewhere. It's an original HTC ROM minus T-mo bloatware.
JMO.
I took the dive and S-off'd, rooted, SuperCID'd, installed 4ext, nandroid backup'd, upgraded the firmware, and installed ARHD. It's fast, smooth and so far everything works. Only issue is that I HATE SENSE 3.6. I came from the LG G2X with all of it's AOSP goodness. Problem was the actual hardware was a travesty! My brother-in-law and my girlfriend had HTC phones and I used to think their phones were the ****! And Sense was great until I started downloading and using other developers launchers, messaging apps, etc.
Somehow, Sense 3.0 never really bothered me, but 3.6 completely hides all of ICS's goodness in my opinion. As most of the innovation that HTC developed in Sense is has been incorporated into ICS, Sense 3.6 is largely irrelevant. Sense 3.6 is just in the way!
Since most of the heavy lifting is done, I think that I can now just flash a different ICS rom...right?
I'd like to try ICS as it was intended.
Yes they are cause we have final ota base and also the kernel source... They're perfect
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I've been running custom ICS roms for a long time, and i will say that they are now completely stable, no FC's or stuff that does not work
People are always posting up new threads asking for advice on this ROM vs. that ROM. Well, I haven't tried them all, but I've tried quite a few of the more popular ones recently. I'm not going to pick these ROMS apart. If you want more info about what I liked or didn't like about a particular ROM I've tried, go ahead and ask.
I got my Sensation back in January. I used the stock Gingerbread for a couple of months. Then got frustrated when the T-Mobile ICS update got delayed and have been on a flashing frenzy ever since.
I've been trying a lot of ROMs lately. I started with ARHD, then went to Elegancia, then Hypernonsense, then back to Elegancia, then Sense 4 Elegancia, then back to 3.6, then Virtuous Inquisition, then Opensensation (CM9), and back to Elegancia again. I've also tried Sebastion, faux, and bricked kernels - I prefer bricked best.
I honestly don't a see a performance difference between Sense, stripped Sense, or AOSP ROMs. I have System Tuner Pro and always monitor memory usage. I thought that the stripped and AOSP ROMs would have gobs of free memory available, but they just don't. They're no better or worse. I also was compelled to try those ROMs to improve battery life. Again, the experience didn't match the hype.
It all comes down to personal preference. Each ROM has its own glitches. But from my experience, full Sense 3.6 ROMs are the most functional and most stable. I loved the Sense 4.0 ROM I tried, except that Sense crashed on me like 3 times a day having to pull the battery each time. For me, nothing beats the Sense widgets. I live in the email and calendar widgets for work and the music widget in the car. No other widgets come close.
I think I'm gonna quit screwing around with it for a while. I am very happy with the Elegancia Sense 3.6 ROM / Bricked kernal combo. It's pretty much already modded/themed the I way I would do it. I can just flash it and go. I will try the Sense 4.0 version again when it's more mature. I loved it, I just can't have my phone crashing on me constantly.
I still want to try MIUI and will probably try CM9 again when it's official. I really like some of the home screen setups people have been able to pull off with their AOSP ROMs. But I think the widgets will always pull me back to a full Sense ROM. The only widgets that can compete, you have to pay for - and they're still not as good. Also, the AOSP camera blows compared to the Sense camera. In the end, it's all about what's functional for you.
In conclusion, try a few, try a bunch... don't get lost in the hunt for better battery life and more performance, because - 1) those 2 things don't go together... & 2) those 2 things are largely the same across all ROMS whether you're full Sense, stripped-Sense, or AOSP. Just find what you like and enjoy!
SO wutZ da best roms to use?
Just joking, but it's too bad some people are serious.
Its all about your liking that's it otherwise there is not a rom whit better battery life than any others
-Nuff Said.
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
Great post, couldn't agree more.
Love Sense 4.0 but it just isn't mature enough
reficuliu said:
Great post, couldn't agree more.
Love Sense 4.0 but it just isn't mature enough
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I've been using Ordroid (Sense4) for a week or so now and I've found it quiet stable to be honest. I haven't experienced any crashes.
The batterylife was in 5.0.X about 17 hours (2 hours of screen turned on).
V6.0.0; I can't say if there are anything wrong just yet since its been out for about 2 days only and I've used it for 1 day. but the first batterycycle was about 21 hours with 2h 5m screen turned on. Only thing I could complain about with Ordroid is the partially working BT, I can't say anything about the Wifi-tethering issue because I am not using it.
Hmm, well I guess that was that.
The partially working Bluetooth issue is across all Sense 4 ROMs. It has to do with the fact that Sense 4 was ported from another device with different BT hardware - so the Sense drivers aren't fully compatible.
With the release of T-Mobile's official RUU, it may be time try Sense 4 again and see if some of the previous issues I experienced are fixed now. But BT will probably always only be partially working due to the driver issue.
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The partially working Bluetooth issue is across all Sense 4 ROMs. It has to do with the fact that Sense 4 was ported from another device with different BT hardware - so the Sense drivers aren't fully compatible.
With the release of T-Mobile's official RUU, it may be time try Sense 4 again and see if some of the previous issues I experienced are fixed now. But BT will probably always only be partially working due to the driver issue.
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Ah okey I didn't know that, thanks for sharing
I like my sence less rom. Its just personal preference! That's what makes it fun! Options! Gotta love options!
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I'd love to know whether any of these custom ICS ROMs is better than the stock ICS ROM. I get that they are all (Sense or no Sense) pretty much the same when it comes to performance and battery, but how do they compare to the stock one? Will I get any benefits from switching from the stock ICS to one of these?
Thanks!
great post!
I use elegancia ics 4.3 sence 4.0 is good so far it has a few glitches like if you try to take a picture while recording a video, the camera crashes or if you press the camera button to take several pictures at once it crashes! But other than that is good!
P.D. that Rom is updated like every other day but I still don't know how to update it
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teomor said:
I'd love to know whether any of these custom ICS ROMs is better than the stock ICS ROM. I get that they are all (Sense or no Sense) pretty much the same when it comes to performance and battery, but how do they compare to the stock one? Will I get any benefits from switching from the stock ICS to one of these?
Thanks!
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Well I've always found that the custom roms out-compete the stock ones repeatedly. You get a much better battery life, minimal bloatware and more power. Use android revolution hd 6+ and you'll see the differences
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Yes I agree! I have much better battery life and over all better experience!
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I tried Elegancia Sense 4 again last night. I thought it was time to give it another go since there have a few builds released since the last time. Unfortunately, nothing has changed. Whatever issues I'm having are buried deeper than what gets changed from build to build.
My phone has crashed on my twice in the last 5 hours. It's unfortunate. I really like Sense 4 - I think it's cleaner & smoother than 3.6. The camera is better and faster than 3.6. But if your phone crashes on you while changing menus or doesn't wake up and you have to pull the battery all the time, then it's useless.
Does anyone else have these issues with Sense 4? Maybe another Sense 4 ROM is better? I have not yet tried another Sense 4 ROM because it seems they all use the same base. Maybe I should try another and see if it works better...
The new InsertCoin ROM Sense 4.0 is out now, looks very stable, only FM Radio not working. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546731
I just flashed OrDroid Sense 4. I'll give that one a shot. It has a different base - the new leaked Ville RUU instead of the One S. The Ville and Sensation share the same processor, so maybe that will do the trick.
EDIT: That one's no good for me either. It has its own set of glitches I'm not willing to live with.
Now trying Steve's new TMOUS Elegancia with Bricked kernel.
Any tradeoffs for non Sense ROMs? I know the camera app is better on HTC's but other than that? Is there a Torch app similar to the stock one? Etc..
...and back on Elegancia 3.7.6. lol
I am running the updated TMOUS firmware now, tho. along with the other radio fix for TMOUS users. This might be the best combo I've run yet. But I'm still anxious for a fully functional Sense 4 ROM.
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Any tradeoffs for non Sense ROMs? I know the camera app is better on HTC's but other than that? Is there a Torch app similar to the stock one? Etc..
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There is another Torch app that is pretty much the same. The ROMs I've tried all have it included if they don't have the HTC app.
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P.D. that Rom is updated like every other day but I still don't know how to update it
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Just flash the new one on top. No super wipe required all your data and apps are safe
teomor said:
I'd love to know whether any of these custom ICS ROMs is better than the stock ICS ROM. I get that they are all (Sense or no Sense) pretty much the same when it comes to performance and battery, but how do they compare to the stock one? Will I get any benefits from switching from the stock ICS to one of these?
Thanks!
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For me, I love the overclocking of custom roms/kernels. Stock Sensation is 1.2ghz. My custom rom Sensation is 1.7ghz. Man is it speedy. I took the time to read countless posts and spent a ton of time learning how to mod my Sensation. No way am I going back to stock carrier rom.
Has anyone had any luck tracking down a decent ROM (much preferably one as close to vanilla android as possible) that actually still has working MHL? I've done a good bit of searching through most of the individual ROM threads and it seems like this is something that is hardly ever mentioned. I realize that it's missing in CM, much to my sadness as that has been my best experience with a custom ROM thus far. need something that works with my appradio 2!
I'm on $droyd$'s jellybean nonsense build 6 right now and it's not bad, but still too HTC-y for my tastes (plus i'm on hboot 1.14.0004 right now so no wifi for me )
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Has anyone had any luck tracking down a decent ROM (much preferably one as close to vanilla android as possible) that actually still has working MHL? I've done a good bit of searching through most of the individual ROM threads and it seems like this is something that is hardly ever mentioned. I realize that it's missing in CM, much to my sadness as that has been my best experience with a custom ROM thus far. need something that works with my appradio 2!
I'm on $droyd$'s jellybean nonsense build 6 right now and it's not bad, but still too HTC-y for my tastes (plus i'm on hboot 1.14.0004 right now so no wifi for me )
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Dark jelly s edition supports OTG im using bubba kernel along with this... Will check the MHL availability and will post back...
Cheers
This interests me too. In my test of different ROMs I found that trick droid and viper work but make the phone freeze after the mhl cord is removed. Black bean, avatar, jellybam and codename lungo don't work with mhl. None of the awesome cm based ones are supposed to work with hdmi
I keep going back to nonsense which has since been closed. I only have version 4 and version 6 seems to be unavailable for download. Now after almost 5 months as my daily driver I started having Bluetooth issues and I have to load music via USB from the recovery since that must have been removed from it.
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I got the same results
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This interests me too. In my test of different ROMs I found that trick droid and viper work but make the phone freeze after the mhl cord is removed. Black bean, avatar, jellybam and codename lungo don't work with mhl. None of the awesome cm based ones are supposed to work with hdmi
I keep going back to nonsense which has since been closed. I only have version 4 and version 6 seems to be unavailable for download. Now after almost 5 months as my daily driver I started having Bluetooth issues and I have to load music via USB from the recovery since that must have been removed from it.
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I have the same problems, freezing when disconecting mhl cord y trick droid and viper. And with trickdroid 10.x.x there is no output.
I also have opened thead in Q&A, to see if Torxx can help us with trickdroid 10.x.x
Just wondering which rom may be the most stable when it comesto ics and sense
As far as sense goes I think rooted stock or mik ROM is the only ones for that as for jb there is lots of ROMs out there I'm currently using official CyanogenMod preview 7 and I love it. Fast smooth stable but I would recommend you just try them all
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Just wondering which rom may be the most stable when it comesto ics and sense
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sun_dream ported several ROMs, an ICS with Sense4 and Sense4.1a, as well as an ICS with Sense3.6. I never could get the Sense4 ROMs to work reliably on my phone, especially the headset audio (it is extremely picky about which earplugs it will accept). His ICS 4.0.3 ROM with Sense3.6, however, worked reasonably well for me, has great audio. There are two versions of it, one is based on Sensation 3.3.2, other is 3.3.3. I found the 3.3.2 to be the more stable and fluid with really good battery life. My only issue with it was sometimes data would drop off unexpectedly. It would come back usually on its own, but sometimes you'd have to toggle airplane mode to get it back. An annoyance. Also, there was a Gallery issue with it FC'ing. But, I solved that by ripping Gallery out of another Sense3.6 ROM and pushing it to my phone. You can read about that in the ROM's thread in the Dev forum.
But really, for overall stability and a ROM where everything works like it is supposed to work without having to jiggle and toggle and stand on your head or sacrifice chickens, Miktouch is the one I use every day. I do like the features of ICS and especially those of the new JB ROMs. But, this is my only phone and must work 100% 100% of the time.
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sun_dream ported several ROMs, an ICS with Sense4 and Sense4.1a, as well as an ICS with Sense3.6. I never could get the Sense4 ROMs to work reliably on my phone, especially the headset audio (it is extremely picky about which earplugs it will accept). His ICS 4.0.3 ROM with Sense3.6, however, worked reasonably well for me, has great audio. There are two versions of it, one is based on Sensation 3.3.2, other is 3.3.3. I found the 3.3.2 to be the more stable and fluid with really good battery life. My only issue with it was sometimes data would drop off unexpectedly. It would come back usually on its own, but sometimes you'd have to toggle airplane mode to get it back. An annoyance. Also, there was a Gallery issue with it FC'ing. But, I solved that by ripping Gallery out of another Sense3.6 ROM and pushing it to my phone. You can read about that in the ROM's thread in the Dev forum.
But really, for overall stability and a ROM where everything works like it is supposed to work without having to jiggle and toggle and stand on your head or sacrifice chickens, Miktouch is the one I use every day. I do like the features of ICS and especially those of the new JB ROMs. But, this is my only phone and must work 100% 100% of the time.
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Yes I must agree I use mik sense 3.0 cause its most reloable as of right now and everything works. Baytery lofe is not bad for sense also. Dont get me wrong I love cm roms bit need more stability also I hope cm based roms fix the video out.
EDIT: can someone post me links to some customizations for mik 3.0 would be greatly appreciated.
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No one can answer this question correctly except you. Try the various ROMs available to you and decide which one is best for you.
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